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U.S. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) makes a point about his meeting with President Barack Obama regarding the country's debt ceiling, during a news conference at the Capitol in Washington May 12, 2011.   REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst   (UNITED STA
Related: Most Kentucky Republicans, unlike Mitch, support Obamacare Medicaid expansion
Ask any Republican in Congress and they'll tell you that Obamacare is an enormous political disaster. Well, maybe they're right:
Which party could do a better job of dealing with health care?

Democratic: 45
Republican: 38

Those numbers come from the latest Pew national survey, and the only sense in which they are a disaster is that despite betting everything on Obamacare repeal, Republicans still trail Democrats on dealing with health care. The only positive gloss you could put on the numbers for Republicans is that before health care reform became a partisan dividing line, Democrats used to have a 20+ point advantage. But that was when reform was an abstract notion — now it's a concrete reality.

In September, Pew showed Republicans with a one-point advantage on health care. And now, despite the "rocky rollout," Democrats have the edge again. I wouldn't be surprised if that earlier poll wasn't a bit of an outlier, but the key point is this: Despite Republican predictions that the implementation of Obamacare would be a political disaster for Democrats, the reality has been anything but.

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  •  I hope no one believes (16+ / 0-)

    this poll will keep Republicans from using the ACA as a talking point with which to bludgeon the Democrats this year in the run-up to elections.  There are still a lot of people having trouble with this law, despite the insurance companies counting on it to work and believing it will and most media widely publicizing the complaints.

    "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

    by SueDe on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:50:30 AM PST

    •  They'll try and they'll fail. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Denver11

      Period.

    •  I believe, wholeheartedly and completely, that.... (0+ / 0-)

      what the insurance companies want the insurance companies get.  This is a boon to them and they desperately want it to work.  I would count on a lot of things going right.

      "If it takes all night / that'll be alright / if I can get you to smile before I leave." Jackson Browne

      by rainmanjr on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:43:45 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Already heard it on the radio two days ago (0+ / 0-)

      Republicans are, yet again, offering "their fix". Removing "regulatory obstacles" (aka oversight to prevent abuses) and offering the same useless plans that covered nothing whatsoever.

      Let's view this rollout problem through Republicans eyes, using a different product. It provides perspective.

      Windows 95 and Windows NT rollout was a disaster, due to the ping of death!
      Windows is bad, no good and even evil!

      How many of you are using Windows computers right now?*

      *Full disclosure:
      I'm typing this on my Mac, but my wife is on her Windows workstation, my Windows server is sitting on top of my Linux server, Windows is my primary job security.

      •  The real story of Windows (0+ / 0-)

        You have it a little mixed up.  Windows 95 and Windows NT rollouts were not a disaster.  Windows Vista and Windows 8 were the disasters.

        The Windows Vista predecessor Windows XP was used for many years after Vista came out.  Not until Windows 7 came out did people use a new MS operating system if they could avoid it.

        I thought I had missed the window of opportunity to upgrade from Windows-XP to Windows-7 when Windows-8 came out.  Then I discovered that lots of companies were still selling Windows-7 on their new computers if that is what you wanted.  So I finally upgraded to Windows-7 and bypassed both Vista and Windows-8.

        In the earlier days, I had updated to Windows 2000 from 95 with no problem.  I think I did stay with 2000 through NT era.

      •  The real question is... (0+ / 0-)

        Why are you using Windows when you have Linux :-)

        To use your analogy, it is like using 'For profit insurance' (I would not call it healthcare) when you have a 'public option'.

    •  Do not count on support from mega insurance (0+ / 0-)

      corporations, as the ACA specifically requires them to spent at least 85% on patent care, as well as otherwise limiting their ability to cut people out when they need serious care.  

  •  Well, that includes Medicare, so (8+ / 0-)

    the ACA may still be significantly weighing down Democrats.  If Republicans stopped highlighting their desire to voucher Medicare, it might even out.  I guess.

    More important is the Reclisted diary's poll showing the public showing more support that opposition to the ACA.  Not bad for January.

    Christie: "I'm going to find the real bullies!"

    by Inland on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:50:36 AM PST

  •  The republicans are relying on Koch brohters (10+ / 0-)

    funded Lies. Isn't that going to back fire when voters know that what republicans are saying is lies.

    For instance the LIE about getting insurance canceled & having to pay more. the truth is insurance companies sent out more letters telling customer they could get better coverage Affordable Care Act.

  •  One person's success is another's disaster! (2+ / 0-)
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    La Gitane, a2nite

    Ya got Trouble, my friends! ...

    2014 is HERE. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:54:02 AM PST

  •  Let me give a shout-out to the well beloved (23+ / 0-)

    Brainwrap, and his yeoman work tabulating ACA sign ups.

    As of today, 13.5M people have health insurance because of Obamacare. Or more; some policies may cover more than one person.

    By the end of March let's guess it'll be over 15M, maybe over 20M. And each of those people has previously insured friends and family who are glad for them.

    Come November, the GOP is going to be running on a platform of seriously pissing off about 50 million people.

    Please proceed.

    I'm on a mission! http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1233352/51142428#c520 Testing the new site rules.

    by blue aardvark on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:55:52 AM PST

  •  Well they wouldn't be (3+ / 0-)
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    SBandini, blue aardvark, rainmanjr

    So rabidly on the constant irrational attack if they really thought it would be a disaster. How nice of them to be so concerned about the future of the Democratic Party... ;)

    "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

    by La Gitane on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:55:54 AM PST

  •  I wonder, is mitch very popular in Kentucky? (2+ / 0-)
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    ProgressiveOldMan, blue aardvark
  •  Please. Enough with the alarming but (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Krush

    ironic diary titles.

    (But what the heck, I have one:

    Daily Kos Catastrophe:

    No toilet paper.)

    "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

    by Wildthumb on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:56:26 AM PST

  •  And, judging by the rhetoric coming from the GOP (11+ / 0-)

    ... they believe that running on Obamacare is their ticket to taking over the Senate and building a bigger majority in the House next year.

    Every Republican on the Sunday morning shows has been jabbering about Obamacare, non-stop, in the last couple of weeks. It's obvious they think this is the ticket for them

    And just when they think they have an issue, the polls begin an inexorable turn toward the positive both on Obamacare, itself, and on which party is more likely to do a better job on health care.

    And, of course, many of these clowns are still shouting "Benghazi!" at every opportunity.

    I like what Frank Rich had to say yesterday. Fox News has become the Democrats' best friend. They keep bleating about Obamacare and Benghazi and the truth is, except in the tiny sliver of the universe that constitutes the Fox News audience (old white people), the rest of the country has moved on. But, as Rich points out, the good news is that Fox News creates an air bubble that lets its audience -- and Republican mucky-mucks -- believe that these issues will stick.

    Just like they all believed that Romney was a shoo-in, even after the election results started pouring in showing just the opposite.

    "Bob Johnson doesn't have special privileges, because really, why would I entrust that guy with ANYTHING?" - kos, November 9, 2013

    by Bob Johnson on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:57:20 AM PST

    •  except, now there's fox latino. i am worried... (1+ / 0-)
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      rainmanjr

      very glitzy, splashy...same techniques of chatty happiness and a dig here and there, and then a few anti obama anti dem zingers and a laugh or two, and chatty happy gossip then zinger...it works.  they know it.  
      it's scary...

      I am tired of laughing at the irony of their stupidity.

      by stagemom on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 10:24:51 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  They're good at what they do (2+ / 0-)
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        stagemom, JerryNA

        It sucks people in and gets them talking.

        I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business.

        by CFAmick on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 12:16:36 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  Latinos are not fooled (2+ / 0-)
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        stagemom, JerryNA

        Latinos may read the entertainment stories but Fox Latino is not going to sway which way Latinos  are voting.  

        Republicans keep on making racist remarks about Latinos.
        Their anti-immigrant rhetoric  isn't targeting immigrants from Sweden.  

        "If you're in a coalition and you're comfortable, you know it's not a broad enough coalition." Dr. Bernice Johnson Reagon

        by Denise Oliver Velez on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 01:42:52 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  polls (1+ / 0-)
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    rainmanjr

    Polling is very useful for election predictions--short term.  Nebulous polling questions are basically useless--can turn quickly.  Whatever media highlights seems to create bounces and bubbles--not long term shifts.  The better long term poll might be tv ratings for FOX.

    Actions speak louder than petitions.

    by melvynny on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 08:57:32 AM PST

  •  Make no mistake about it. (3+ / 0-)

    Kentucky is a real bellweather for 2014 and 2016.

    Which means that the Dems are more or less playing with "house money."

  •  Does anyone else remember the... (1+ / 0-)
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    blue aardvark

    'His days are numbered' song? Me neither... it seems like someone should start writing.

  •  The "disaster" message tests better than... (4+ / 0-)

    their messaging regarding,

    libidos, real rape, sluts, wetbacks, 47 percent of America are takers, and I can't remember that other agency I want to abolish--whoops.

    When you are free-falling, you have to make hard choices.

  •  I hope the Democrats start (0+ / 0-)

    distancing itself from Obamacare

    Its a disaster. It was well intended but it is a mega horrific nightmare.

    And the exchanges are a big fat joke.

    nazies are annoying

    by Krush on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:04:08 AM PST

    •  Care to provide some links? eom (0+ / 0-)

      “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck

      by RichM on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:08:39 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  All conservatives (4+ / 0-)

        hope Democrats distance themselves from ObamaCare.

        We've been spelling it wrong all these years. It's actually: PRO-GOP-ANDA

        by Patriot4peace on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:14:12 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

      •  do you really think its possible (0+ / 0-)

        to balance the private sector insurance companies with state funded insurance

        its not going to work. especially in republican states. think about all the red tape you get from your insurance companies as it is.

        you know what needed to happen? Insurance companies should have been made to be held accountable for fraudulent policies. That would have been the best health care reform. Instead the U.S. government created an even bigger mess. Its stupid. And the state funded insurance is fraudulent too.

        nazies are annoying

        by Krush on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:14:42 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  What? (3+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Krush, viral, Aquarius40

          Seriously, I can't follow you.

        •  Yes, of course, we should have had a PERFECT (5+ / 0-)

          health care solution. So let's demonize and turn our backs on one that prevents people from being excluded for pre-existing conditions, prevents lifetime caps, and allows people who previously couldn't afford it to have coverage.

          Thanks for your concern, troll, but you're offering a blueprint for Democratic defeat: basically saying "Yeah we did what the Republicans are attacking but we are so so so sorry, kick our asses."

          Go away.

          Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it. http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

          by anastasia p on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:22:55 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Im not a troll (0+ / 0-)

            I'm not demonizing it. It is what is. I am really sure the healthcare reform bill wont actually reform healthcare in the U.S

            that's all. Its not like I think its evil or anything. The only thing that will actually reform health care in the U.S. is a universal system that will crackdown on fraudulent policies but Americans are too scared to do that because a system like that is considered to be "communism."

            nazies are annoying

            by Krush on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:29:40 AM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  Okay, I think I'm following you (1+ / 0-)
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              JerryNA

              You confused me with "fraudulent," but I think you're saying is that for-profit health insurance is inherently fraudulent, because actually making good on all promises without weaseling out of paying obligations would not allow for a company to remain profitable.

              So, yes, single payer all the way. I think we're in agreement on that.

        •  So... (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Krush

          No links, then?

          “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck

          by RichM on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:29:51 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  here: (0+ / 0-)
            There are alternatives to the exchange-based market system which was enacted by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which have been proposed in the past and continue to be proposed, such as a single-payer system and allowing health insurance to be regulated at the federal level.

            In addition, the Patient Protection and Affordable Health Care Act of 2010 contained provisions which allows the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) to undertake pilot projects which, if they are successful could be implemented in future.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/...

            nazies are annoying

            by Krush on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:37:17 AM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  Um, wiki? (2+ / 0-)
              Recommended by:
              Krush, Aquarius40

              Really???

              Look - I agree that the ACA didn't go nearly as far as it should.  But it is not a 'disaster' and Dems should not 'run as fast as they can from it'.  Other than the original web site disaster, and MAYBE some people who had their plan canceled (I've only heard anecdotal stories - I haven't seen any real analysis), the plan seems to be working BETTER than originally thought.

              “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck

              by RichM on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:47:49 AM PST

              [ Parent ]

              •  wiki is a good source (0+ / 0-)

                because it isnt slanted to the right or to the left

                its called information not propaganda.

                nazies are annoying

                by Krush on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:49:42 AM PST

                [ Parent ]

                •  Well, that's . . . more lawn fertilizer than fact. (0+ / 0-)

                  Wikipedia is a form of "do-it/write-it yourself" opportunity to sort of "create a source" for those who want to appear to have researched a paper, argument, or presentation.  Few, if any, teachers will allow class assignments to quote it, footnote it, or otherwise use it, on nearly all levels of Term-Paper/Thesis/Dissertation requirements.  Unless, that is, one might use it as an example of the "make it up as you go along" kind of "information" that really is called "propaganda" - or better yet, FICTION AND FANTASY.

        •  What the hell do you mean by "state (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          Krush, Aquarius40

          funded health insurance"? Do you mean the private insurance policies that people get with subsidies from the federal government? Or do you mean Medicaid, an existing program that is jointly funded by states and the federal government? Or are you going on about some mythical "government takeover" of health insurance?

          The problem may well be that attempting to use existing private insurance companies as the basis for a system of universal healthcare is too expensive and unwieldy, but I don't think that's what you're saying.

          "All governments lie, but disaster lies in wait for countries whose officials smoke the same hashish they give out." --I.F. Stone

          by Alice in Florida on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:37:53 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  this what I meant by state (0+ / 0-)

            funded health insurance:

            Or do you mean
            Medicaid
            , an existing program that is jointly funded by states and the federal government?
            Medicaid is funded by the state. And its not exactly the best healthcare out there either. Im not talking about a mythical government takeover. Im not here to repeat right wing talking points.

            Is it possible to criticise healthcare reform without being labeled a right winger?

            nazies are annoying

            by Krush on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:48:21 AM PST

            [ Parent ]

            •  No, Krush. It isn't. (0+ / 0-)

              A great deal of the Obama Presidency is staked on the ACA, like it or not, and if it fails then so do Dems.  This is our chance to take away the long held ascendancy of the GOP.  If Obamacare fails then so may we.  Young people flocked to us because of W, make no mistake of that, and the T's solidified their break from conservative America.  If we fail they might very well become apathetic and we lose them forever.
              It's VERY important to our Party that the ACA succeed.

              "If it takes all night / that'll be alright / if I can get you to smile before I leave." Jackson Browne

              by rainmanjr on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 10:20:50 PM PST

              [ Parent ]

          •  I believe even Canada (0+ / 0-)

            had to go through a transitional period using private companies, similar to Obamacare, before settling on their excellent single payer system (yes, there are anecdotal "disaster" stories, but they are very few and mostly connected to WEALTHY patients who would have had a choice under ANY system).  The British established their NHS immediately after the war, as did other European nations, but perhaps Canada, being half-British and half-American, had to try the hybrid system first.

    •  13.5M signed up (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      RichM, Krush, rainmanjr

      Most exchanges now working well - ironically, I think Massachusetts is one of the last poor ones.

      Your information is outdated and rapidly becoming antediluvian.

      I'm on a mission! http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1233352/51142428#c520 Testing the new site rules.

      by blue aardvark on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:41:30 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  Obamacare isn't perfect; (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Krush, KJB Oregon, JerryNA

      but it's worlds better than what we had before. It is a baby step in the right direction, IMO.

      •  I hope so (0+ / 0-)

        If it improves some peoples lives somewhere then its probably worth it

        Its just worrisome because all the really poor people in red states are going to even more screwed over than they were before and unless they are politically aware they will literally blame the Democrats and the President and gotv might be harder than ever.

        nazies are annoying

        by Krush on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 12:23:37 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  those people in the.. (0+ / 0-)

          'Red States' have exactly what they have consistently voted for. Nothing will deter them or the people they choose to elect from 'litteraly' blaming democrats for all their ills, real or imagined.

  •  It is going to be very tough to maintain a lie. (5+ / 0-)

    Now that Obamacare (and it will be theObamacare for posterity) is no longer an abstraction people are going to see what it is.

    It is people getting health care in a reasonable way.

    The GOP is going to have to maintain that lie for 9 months.

    Every month more people's lives will be saved by Obamacare.

    Every month more people will be getting health care they like.

    Every month there will be people who find freedom by not being enslaved to an employer just to have health care.

    Every month more people will be able to get their 18-25 year old kids health care.

    Every month the GOP will have more to explain why they want it all this good stuff to go away.

    The highest form of spiritual practice is self observation with compassion.

    by NCJim on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:08:10 AM PST

    •  It's especially important for small business. (0+ / 0-)

      Someone has an idea and wants to start a business, or their idea is going pretty good and they want to expand, then the ACA allows them to do that.  They can now compete for good workers or not have to worry about being uninsured.  This is GREAT for small business and they've been a bit lagging with support.  They will soon come around.  Many small businesses today will be big businesses tomorrow and will be donating to a political Party.  Guess who they'll be thanking.

      "If it takes all night / that'll be alright / if I can get you to smile before I leave." Jackson Browne

      by rainmanjr on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 10:26:09 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  With all the lives being saved, (0+ / 0-)

      the Republicans can complain about funeral homes going out of business.  But their steadfast defense of the Second Amendment as they see it (the right of ANY idiot to bear arms) will prevent that from happening.

  •  Lipless is a pre-existing condition. (3+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude, BelgianBastard, rainmanjr

    Thus, McConnell should feel lucky we have the ACA.

    Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer. Ayn is the bane!

    by Floyd Blue on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:10:04 AM PST

  •  I keep telling everyong (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    KJB Oregon, rainmanjr

    if they really thought it was such a political disaster, they would step aside, keep saying "ObamaCare", and let the natural course of events sink any Democratic chances of re-election or increases in House membership.

    Willfully, purposefully sabotaging the effort to sign people up for ObamaCare is the most telling sign that it scares the living shit out of them.

    That's why they need to keep saying it's terrible. That's why they need to keep supporting the erroneous idea that it's "government health care" that is too expensive to fund.

    Because ObamaCare is going to reduce Republican influence in the next 4 election cycles.

    We've been spelling it wrong all these years. It's actually: PRO-GOP-ANDA

    by Patriot4peace on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:12:07 AM PST

  •  As I have mentioned previously. . . (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Brainwrap, Mr MadAsHell, viral

    Mitch did succeed with his goal.

    Obama is truly a "one term" President.

    However the "one term" is Obamacare.  

  •  Bill Kristol told Republicans that Health Care (6+ / 0-)

    would be a disaster for them in 1993, and that they had to fight HillaryCare with everything they had in them. Nothing has changed but the name, like an ALEC bill with a different state name searched and replaced. Everything they are doing now is from Kristol's playbook from then, except of course the dozens of meaningless repeal votes in the House. I Diaried this in 2009, with a link to and quotations from his strategy memo.

    The sum of all GOP fears

    Note that it is not only brainwrap's numbers, but the media coverage of those numbers. When you start to lose Forbes on a bedrock Republican issue, well…

    01/04/14: Forbes: Can A Cure Be Found for Obamacare Brain Meltdown Syndrome? Putting the Lie to the Anti-ACA Talking Heads

    The big question is how many poor Republicans now being covered under ObamaReallyDoesCareAndRepublicansCouldCareLess will draw the logical inference between now and the midterms. Especially in Kentucky.

    The GOP, Guardians of Health Security

    This morning, Greg Sargent calls our attention to this new ad for Mitch McConnell, in which a man who got cancer from his job at a uranium enrichment plant in Paducah. The man testifies that it was McConnell, fierce advocate of worker safety and health security, who made sure that workers got cancer screening and compensation…

    According to this [brainwrap's] site tracking signups under the ACA, in Kentucky, nearly 40,000 people have signed up for private insurance via the exchange, and another 100,000 have enrolled in Medicaid. All of those people would be tossed off their coverage if McConnell got his way. So surely no one will believe this ad, right?

    Wrong. Even people whose lives are literally being saved by the Affordable Care Act will tell you they don't want any part of that horrible Obamacare.

    Except when they say otherwise, as kos wrote in November in Obamacare and brand new Democrats: The GOP's biggest nightmare.
    [35-year-old Ronald Hudson had] never had insurance before and said his hospital bills were up to $23,000 at this point.

    “Good night,” Lively said, tapping in his information.

    Kids: five. Salary: about $14,000 before taxes.

    “You’re going to qualify for a medical card,” she told Hudson.

    “Well, thank God,” Hudson said, laughing. “I believe I’m going to be a Democrat.”

    Tell them the truth, and GOTV.

    Tell them the truth, and GOTV.

    Tell them the truth, and GOTV.

    Not with a bang, but with a Republican whimper.

    Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

    by Mokurai on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:18:39 AM PST

  •  let us hope that Obama in his State of (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Mr MadAsHell, viral, rainmanjr

    Union speech set the public straight on the ACA, as he won't have too many more big chances like this. He needs to trump the GOOD news. 3 millionsignups!!!! Mention the GOP alternative, which is nothing, or lets go back to what we had. Mention again the good aspects of this law, and give name/character examples of people across the country and their particular health situation, and mention again, how the ACA is now offering help to this particular person. Please do this Mr. President!!!!! Thank you.

  •  Any real Democrat will vote ALG (0+ / 0-)

    Because turtles belong in the pond.

  •  But ACA itself still polls very negatively (0+ / 0-)

    I was just reading a HuffPo article that says ACA is still polling negatively.

    Negative View Of Obamacare Rollout Eases: AP Poll

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Memo to the White House: The website may be fixed, but President Barack Obama's new health insurance markets have yet to win over most consumers.

    Negative perceptions of the health care rollout have eased, a new Associated Press-GfK poll finds. But overall, two-thirds of Americans say things still aren't going well.

    Of those who've tried to sign up, or who live with someone who has, 71 percent have encountered problems. But the share reporting success jumped to 40 percent from a meager 24 percent in December.

    And.. last time I looked, Dem Senate incumbents were still running away from ACA.
  •  polls this early are meaningless (1+ / 0-)
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    rainmanjr

    Reality has yet to raise its head, and may not until 2016 ( http://www.dailykos.com/... see the blockquote)
    or even later ( http://blogs.investors.com/... ) or not - there's so much crap being flung.
    As far as I'm concerned the positives of the PPACA are well known, but it's fundamental fatal flaw has been handwaved - it does not sufficiently address the root cause of our health care problem - the profit motive.
    It is possible that there will be no "Obamacare crisis", but it is stupid and suicidal to assume that. It is also possible that such a crisis could lead to Single Payer, but only if we are prepared.

  •  A political disaster averted by stupid Republicans (1+ / 0-)
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    I know that my experience with buying insurance on the exchange has been pretty terrible -- still haven't been able to get insurance for my college student daughter -- but so what?

    I'm pretty (not completely) consistent with the national polls.  

    I've thought the law was terrible from the first day and I think the law was terrible now.  Nevertheless, I immediately dismiss anybody bleating to repeal it as a crackpot.

    It's still at least a political draw for Democrats, probably a bit of a win because:

    SHOCK AND AWE HERE:

    the status quo was worse.
    Much worse for many of us.

    Republicans had ample opportunity to offer something better and more effective.  They had ample opportunity to join the conversation to affect the bill that did get passed.
    Scott Brown could have run on something other than "I will block Obamacare", hence frightening Democrats into accept this already-passed by the House pile of shit.

    None of that happened.
    None.

    They had a damned low bar to look better than Democrats.
    They had a damned low bar to do something historic and attract voters who might never have looked their way.

    And completely blew it.

    That's the disaster.
    Where they are now vs where they could be, not to mention what was foisted on the country while they were busy being morons.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 09:42:53 AM PST

  •  The Republicans got some good media cycles... (0+ / 0-)

    out of the web site rollout. It dominate the news, and drove stories about Ted Cruz's government shutdown off the front page. They should take the win for what it was, and not try to push it too far.

    But they can't. The Republicans are like a bad chess player who, finding his opponent has made a mistake, can't just take a pawn and get a little position. No, they just keep hurling material at the square, certain that this is the big one that's going to win the whole game.

    Speaking as a bad chess player, that doesn't work.

    Art is the handmaid of human good.

    by joe from Lowell on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 12:47:32 PM PST

  •  A.C.A (0+ / 0-)

    No doubt that. I would say Democrats 80% Republicans 20%. Also in time all the numbers will change. This has the Republicans going nut's. For they are depending on this in 2014 and 2016. But they still like to be on the wrong side of history. I give them as they are now about 10 more years and they are done as a Party. Yes they have the money. But the old saying ( Money can't buy you love )

  •  Repugs (0+ / 0-)

    The repugs hate anything associated with Obama, government-related or not. Their mantra - "Gotta get the blaclk man", and it shows every day.

  •  Truth be known ... (0+ / 0-)

    Fact is, while less than perfect, the ACA, now proudly known as ObamaCare, is fully functional and working. Sure - those TALK A LOT folks on the right - far-right and wacked-out-right have dealt it some set backs, but it's not going away. Now they are trying to figure out a way of taking some credit for what good comes of it.

  •  Obamacare is succeeding (0+ / 0-)

    While the president's numbers MAY have been biased in his SOTU  message Tuesday night, millions have signed up via the Healthcare.gov website as well as their own state marketplaces.  What the Republicans feared is actually happening, as demonstrated by the poll numbers the article quotes.  As more and more people get on board and acquire affordable healthcare, the Republican arguments against the ACA are being shown to be hype and lies.

  •  Republicans did nothing (0+ / 0-)

    As much as I want single payer of the ACA and agree that it was pretty much a give away to the giant insurance companies how could the GOP even get 38% in a poll. They have offered absolutely nothing to take care of the insurance issues in this country. Sen. Greyson was spot on when he said don't get sick and if you do die quickly. That's really it for the GOP.

  •  as a Kentucky resident..... (0+ / 0-)

    Two nights ago, the one before the President's State of the Union Speech last night, I received a pre-taped call from Chinless Mitch on this exact "disaster", spreading his slander to EVERY SINGLE KY. VOTER!  After a while I could bare no more, hanging up, but thinking about it, he is continuing what he does best...SMOTHER US with his slanderous lies and MIS-information as always....to mostly uneducated, gullible people.  I fear he will manage to somehow discredit his opponent here, as usual, EVEN with KENTUCKY leading the way for states to implement healthcare through carefully thought out public policy!  

    If Democratic Pack funds have ANY ability to beat ANY politician at his own game of constant beating with lies, it is HERE.....if only ONE REPUBLICANT seat is lost in the Senate.....IT MUST BE THIS ONE, for the good of OUR nation!

  •  So much for polls (0+ / 0-)

    polls, yeah gotta love'em.  

    Let's see how this works.  

    First repeat the mantra that the GOP hates everyone, are racists, corporate shills,  and "want you to die, and die quickly".  Then ask some progressives and liberals,, with a token share of moderates and maybe, maybe a few conservatives who could best fix healthcare in America,  Your answer is preordained.

    "Pew" is right.  I can smell it from here.

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