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When Texas talks about seceding from the union polls always show the rest of America seems to be happy to let them go. I am one of those people. Still, I realize that there are probably ramifications to that I have never thought of and it would be a rather flippant answer to an important event if Texas did secede. However when you see the behavior of Texas politicians, it does make one want to say, “if you want out Texas, don’t let the door smack you in the ass on the way out.” Yesterday the first politician to criticise Obama even before the State of the Union (SOTU) address was Rep. Randy Weber.

He said on Twitter, “On floor of house waitin on “Kommandant-In-Chef”… the Socialistic dictator who’s been feeding US a line or is it “A-Lying?” Really? Kommandant-In-Chef instead of Commander and Chief to make fun of Obama’s job. How is that even funny, seems stupid to me. Is he comparing Obama to A-Rod because A-Rod lied about steroids and he thinks Obama is a liar? I’ll bet a large majority of Americans didn’t even get the reference. Of course this is straight out of the Republican playbook. Call someone a name instead of giving a well reasoned argument as to why you disagree with them. I suspect it’s because they don’t actually have a reason. They just hate Liberals and Obama on spec.

Guess where Weber is from? You guessed it … Texas. (“Blame it on Texas” begins to play softly in the background)

Then during the SOTU Rep. Steve Stockman walked out whining, “I could not bear to watch as he continued to cross the clearly-defined boundaries of the Constitutional separation of powers.” Really, a guy that belongs to the party that seems to want to make America a Christian theocracy is accusing Obama of violating the separation between church and state. Or is he just talking about the branches of government? Regardless, neither is true and Stockman offers up no proof. Stockman also is the guy that invited gun nut pants shitter Ted Nugent to last years SOTU.

Guess where he Stockman is from? You guessed it again … Texas.

Why is it that a high percentage of asshole politicians seem to be from Texas?

Editors Note: Apologies to Austin, Texas which is a cool town. It’s the only city in Texas that knows a bong is a water pipe and not the sound a bell makes. h/t to social worker Jan Falk for reminding me about Austin.

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  •  Tip Jar (4+ / 0-)
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    NancyWH, kevinpdx, Raggedy Ann, gfv6800

    The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

    by Madrigal Maniac on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 12:10:36 PM PST

  •  You many consider this Texan (10+ / 0-)

    extending a single finger salute to you.

    As for the facts, here's the mostrecent info I could find. emphasis is added by me..

    Secession fervor south of the Red River? Not quite. More like a loud but small minority.

    There hasn’t been any recent polling, but a 2009 Rasmussen Reports survey found that 31 percent of Texans say the state has a right to secede but just 18 percent of Texans would vote to secede from the U.S. if given a choice. Three-fourths of Texas citizens say they oppose secession.

    That 18 percent figure is identical to the percentage of Americans who say they favor allowing their state or region to secede from the nation, according to a 2008 Zogby poll. So Texas is no more secessionist than, say, Alaska. Or Rhode Island.

    Twice as many Texans favor same-sex marriage as secession. Or, as Republican message-meister Frank Luntz would say, more Texans believe in UFOs than in secession.

    Srsly, fuck you.

    For real Texas Kaos, you want texaskaos.net, not .com. Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us

    by boadicea on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 12:19:28 PM PST

    •  I second that motion (7+ / 0-)

      with both middle fingers and I'm not a Texan. I'm sick of hearing how bad the South is.

      El pueblo unido jamás será vencido. The people united will never be defeated

      by mint julep on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 01:07:12 PM PST

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    •  I can think of better uses for that finger (2+ / 0-)
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      shesaid, freerad

      like using to vote some of these bastards out of office.

      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 01:08:34 PM PST

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    •  Pots and kettles (3+ / 0-)
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      The poster appears to share a state with Boehner and Kasich, so might best avoid throwing stones at the rest of us.

      “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

      by Catte Nappe on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 01:09:44 PM PST

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      •  WTF Catte, (0+ / 0-)

        I didn't throw rocks at Texas, some people including the Governor have talked about secession. Sorry I brought it up. The people I was throwing rocks at happened to be two politicians from Texas. Add Rick Perry, George Bush, and Ted Cruz. No one answered my final question. Why do so many asshole politicians come from Texas?

        Yes we have idiots like Boehner and Kasich, but the last time I checked, neither one of them is talking about seceding from the union.

        I don't really want to see Texas leave the union, but I would like to see them join America.

        The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

        by Madrigal Maniac on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 02:13:20 PM PST

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        •  you left out the OTHER big cities in TX (4+ / 0-)
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          lizzibetts, shesaid, Wino, boadicea

          Urban areas voted solidly for Obama in 2008 and 2012.  I assure you LOTS of folks in Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, San Antonio, and El Paso (just to name the largest 5 citites in the state), besides Austin, know what a bong is. Please.

          Facts would help, even in generalizations.

          I'm with boadicea and Catte Nappe. And LOTS of other Texans, native and born elsewhere.  You want to take this up with nomandates, commonmass, or bastrop?  They could also set you straight.

          We all would like Texas, and a number of other states electing asshole politicians to "join America".  I dispute that the rate of assholes is particularly higher in Texas, given the population of 27 + million, second only to California.

          come help us here, or others elsewhere, or just can it and move out of the way.  The rest of us have work to do, and are doing it.

          I'm part of the "bedwetting bunch of website Democrat base people (DKos)." - Rush Limbaugh, 10/16/2012 Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

          by tom 47 on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 03:47:31 PM PST

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          •  If there's anything I hate (0+ / 0-)

            it's a democrat acting like a damn republican. Cool your jets dude. I think Texas can handle a little nudge now and then. You do have the worst health care of any state in the nation. Still, many states have many problems including my Ohio where the governor wants to kill unions and set up his own private jobs program so he can steer money to his cronies.

            However, not many states ever send a petition to the White House signed by 120,000 citizens asking to succeed. Get over it, it happened.

            I respect every democrat in Texas. Doesn't change the fact you have some asshole republicans for politician's. Stop having knee jerk reactions like republicans do. For instance, do you really think I didn't know that other Texas cities knew what a bong is? Of course I do. But Austin is probably the most liberal big city in Texas so I gave them some love and made a joke. A JOKE.

            Take a deep breath, now let it out slowly, everything is going to be alright.

            The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

            by Madrigal Maniac on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 05:12:19 PM PST

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            •  no, it won't be all right, until (3+ / 0-)
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              boadicea, shesaid, BlackSheep1

              we have changed the electoral map in this state, and several others. Many are working on that. Real help is welcome; snide remarks, not so much. Let me try to make some well-intended comments.

              I CÀN take a joke, and don't consider myself thin-skinned.  "Worst health care of any state"? And here I was sure we were 49th...now, that's a joke, though a bit of a sad one.

              It just gets a bit old to hear the broad generalizations and this doesn't seem to be the venue for that kind of comment. It doesn't necessarily come across as friendly joshing, and isn't constructive. Irony, sarcasm, sardonic expression, and similar nuances have a harder time getting conveyed and being received in the intended manner. Calling me a Republican, or that I'm acting like one, is not taken well. It can be the case that if we knew each other well, it would be given and received differently, and as intended.  Since we on this site don't generally know each other that well, there is room for mis-construing by both sender and recipient.  A jovial backslap and pointed verbal dig is better understood from your sports teammate or long-time friend, but not nearly from a bare acquaintance or stranger.  I try to keep comments respectful, factual, and make opinions identified as such.  I enjoy others' comments and appreciate when they clearly strive to do the same.

              We in Texas are well aware of our elected officials' shortcomings, as you have said you are of your own state's, and I'm sure others elsewhere are. Yes, of course the electorate put them in office, but anyone here on this site didn't vote for them.  May we work to change that situation?  That's what I strive for.

              And when we truly are better acquainted, I would gladly trade friendly verbal/written barbs.  Until then, I would ask for a bit of consideration, and will do my best to return the favor.

              Peace.

              I'm part of the "bedwetting bunch of website Democrat base people (DKos)." - Rush Limbaugh, 10/16/2012 Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

              by tom 47 on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 08:43:45 PM PST

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    •  I'm going to third that motion! (3+ / 0-)
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      shesaid, old mule, boadicea

      I'm beyond sick of seeing all these diaries and comments against a particular state and their peoples.

      Texas is a seriously HUGE ass state, and once you get out into it's boonies, wow does the religion take over and education goes out the damn door.

      And for all of the people who are here, trying to turn it blue, trying our damnedest to do so, and you basically want to say "don't let the door hit you"? Because we don't count?

      Instead of bitching about our politicians, help us turn our state blue, because then the GOP will be doomed to ever being a national party again.

      UGH. That's all I can say.

      It is every person's obligation to put back into the world at least the equivalent of what they takes out of it. - Albert Einstein (edited for modern times to include everyone by me!)

      by LeftieIndie on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 01:14:35 PM PST

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    •  right with ya, boadicea. (2+ / 0-)
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      diaries and comments like that just amaze me. so short-sighted and shallow.

      peace.

      let me take you down, 'cause i'm going to strawberry fields. nothing is real, and nothing to get hung about.-jpgr

      by shesaid on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 01:48:18 PM PST

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    •  I can try and fuck myself but (0+ / 0-)

      thanks for the info on regular Texans. I had no idea whether they were for or against secession. This was a post about politicians. Here's what the Governor Rick Perry said about Texas.

      "If Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that."

      You can ask me to fuck myself all you want, but when your own Governor won't quell talk of secession what is the rest of America supposed to think.

      The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

      by Madrigal Maniac on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 02:05:10 PM PST

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    •  Amen, boadicea, and preach on (1+ / 0-)
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      shesaid

      I really hate the Texas-bashing here.

      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 07:36:28 PM PST

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  •  And fuck you twice over (4+ / 0-)
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    VeggiElaine, David54, shesaid, Wino

    for making me have to say anything counter to pointing out these Texas representatives are assholes.  

    For real Texas Kaos, you want texaskaos.net, not .com. Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us

    by boadicea on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 12:21:19 PM PST

    •  does this mean I cannot use my texas jokes? (0+ / 0-)

      aw, darn it all to heck.  

      What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

      by agnostic on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 12:39:35 PM PST

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      •  Not at all. (2+ / 0-)
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        and criticism of assholes in any state is relevant.

        What this diarist did was take a legitimately asshole moment on the part of a couple of elected officials, and basically suggest the whole huge state should be jettisoned.

        There is no subtlety in an argument about secession. We fought a war and settled that.

        If your state has noone suffereing from Obama Derangement Syndrome, I congratulate you.  

        Somewhat skeptically, mind.

        But I would NEVER ever suggest your home shouldn't be fought for, or that the folks doing that should be kicked out because they have some neighbors who are assholes.

        For real Texas Kaos, you want texaskaos.net, not .com. Before you win, you have to fight. Come fight along with us

        by boadicea on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 10:27:18 PM PST

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    •  That's all I tried to do (0+ / 0-)

      was point out the two republican asshole who criticised a great speech by Obama. Then some thin skin Texas liberals, my people, decided to take it as some huge shot against their state and started a shit storm. I'm sure I'll get crap for this. I'm a big boy, I can take it.

      The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

      by Madrigal Maniac on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 05:20:31 PM PST

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  •  People like that populate a party that has yet (1+ / 0-)
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    to attain the level of professionalism found in a really bad junior high student council. The woman the party chose to speak was yet another GOPliar. Had to turn her off when she griped about Obama raising taxes and increasing spending, both whoppers from the pits of hell.

    Never promote men who seek after a state-established religion; it is spiritual tyranny--the worst of despotism. It is turnpiking the way to heaven by human law, in order to establish ministerial gates to collect toll. John Leland

    by J Edward on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 12:50:24 PM PST

  •  Stockman wasn't talking "church and state" (2+ / 0-)
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    The separation he (and fellow GOPers from other states besides Tx) are mewling about is the separate powers of legislative, executive and judicial branches. Their contention is that if the legislative branch throws a tantrum and goes on passive-aggressive strike, as they have done, than the balance of powers prevents the executive from trying to govern without them.

    And BTW - it is Commander in Chief, not and.

    instead of Commander and Chief

    “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

    by Catte Nappe on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 01:02:46 PM PST

    •  Thanks for the correction. (0+ / 0-)

      Commander and Chief makes more sense. I believe in the post I suggested that is what Stockman might have been talking about and I think it probably was. I'd likely rewrite that paragraph if I could, but it's out there. God knows how many posts and comment I've written and I have almost 400 articles on my blog. I do make mistakes. I can live with it.

      The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

      by Madrigal Maniac on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 02:18:57 PM PST

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  •  It's never a surprise (0+ / 0-)

    when these fools open their mouths.  I have my own feelings about Texas, for which I have been excoriated for on this site, oh well, I have history with people/bigots/racists who are family members and live there. My one sister-in-law, who is slowing evolving away from her up-bringing, talked to her brother (Raggedy Andy) two nights ago and said things like gay people need to have the right to marry and no one needs to tell me to believe in organized religion!  Believe me, this girl is making progress.  I kept yelling at my husband to tell her to vote for Wendy Davis, but he never did.  We'll be at her house in March (excrutiating pain for me to step foot in that dreadful state) so I'm going to talk up Wendy Davis.  We'll see.

    If you acknowledge it, you can change it.

    by Raggedy Ann on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 01:24:08 PM PST

  •  i'll tell you what i told another tx-basher: (2+ / 0-)
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    this is from a comment i wrote just a couple days ago, and it applies, sadly:

    you said some awfully hateful stuff in your diary. i won't even address some of that bullshit, but i will say that when a supposed liberal/progressive says things like that, i question whether they truly understand what being a liberal/progressive is.

    it is having compassion for our fellow dems, fighting battles here in these red states. it is having respect for the battle we fight (instead of telling us how fucked we are or how stupid we are-that's so republican, don't you think? or at the least, just plain mean). it means helping us turn these states blue.

    and i will keep shouting it from the few mountaintops i can find in texas: our president won (in both elections) dallas, houston, austin, san antonio...texas is not a lost cause. you did know houston has a lesbian mayor, right? the times are, as bob dylan said, a'changin'.

    and then there's wendy davis. nope, not a lost cause at all.

    do i hate it here? yes, especially since i don't live near any of the large cities. but i know there are plenty of texas kossacks and an even larger group of texas dems beyond that fighting to turn texas blue. (proud to call some of them my friends)

    and we're supporting each other. i'm sure that some idaho [OHIO] kossacks/dems will appreciate your support because, as i have read from others, idaho [OHIO] is a very red state with its own share of problems, some quite similar to here.

    ok...end of rant...until the next narrow-minded tx basher comes along.

    let me take you down, 'cause i'm going to strawberry fields. nothing is real, and nothing to get hung about.-jpgr

    by shesaid on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 01:44:00 PM PST

    •  That's interesting. (0+ / 0-)

      I agree with what you said. Glad I didn't do that. I am compassionate for liberals, that's why I criticised two Republicans and why I jumped on Eric Erickson for calling Wendy Davis "Abortion Barbie." I personally think Davis is a hero. So I'm not sure why you sent me a post calling me a supposed Liberal.  Hell, just read my blog at madrigalmaniac.com and you'll see a lot of liberal love. Maybe you should listen to your own advice.

      The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

      by Madrigal Maniac on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 04:54:45 PM PST

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      •  no, actually, you did. it might not have been your (1+ / 0-)
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        intent, but you did.

        hell, dude, your first sentences:

        When Texas talks about seceding from the union polls always show the rest of America seems to be happy to let them go. I am one of those people.
        that was your first 'fuck-you.'

        the second:

        Guess where Weber is from? You guessed it … Texas. (“Blame it on Texas” begins to play softly in the background)
        blame it on texas...you want i should blame ohio for boehner? or jersey for christie?

        the third:

        Guess where he Stockman is from? You guessed it again … Texas.
        because, of course, the crazies are only from texas.

        and the fourth:

        Editors Note: Apologies to Austin, Texas which is a cool town.
        meaning the rest of us texans are simply screwed and far from cool. keep in mind, texas won't become blue on austin's merits alone. (bong hits aside).

        perhaps you didn't use the vulgar language the other diarist used but it was insulting, nonetheless. and not just to me, obviously:

        take note of the fact that the comment below your tip jar got more tips than your own tipjar, and the fact that most of the people that replied to your diary disagreed with your anti-texas. just as with the other person's diary, people were insulted.

        you could have ranted about the shameful antics of these congressmen without making a blanket statement about the state and its people. you might have had a great diary where all involved commiserate-instead, you've had to spend time defending it.

        as for the 'supposed liberal' statement. yes, it goes against progressive values to make denigrating statements about a people. it is xenophobic. to me, it is not unlike when a 'supposed liberal' here makes a statement advocating violence against republicans. it's not a progressive value. does that mean i don't believe that person really is a liberal? no, i just think that sometimes we let our human foibles get in the way. and the community does (as they/we did with your diary) feel the need to respond, to remind us to be better people.

        yes, wendy davis is a heroine. i will agree w/ you on that point.

        and dkos has been my haven for 'liberal love' for 8+ years. thank you for the invite, tho.

        let me take you down, 'cause i'm going to strawberry fields. nothing is real, and nothing to get hung about.-jpgr

        by shesaid on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 06:46:59 PM PST

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        •  Only if they want to go. (0+ / 0-)

          If they vote for succession it would mean that the majority of Texans want to go. So I would want to grant their wish. It appears the progressives on this site do not want that to happen. That's great. Nothing  in my post says I would want them to leave the union if they don't want to.

          As far as crazies, there seems to be a lot of crazy republicans in the state. The post was about republicans. This is a liberal site isn't it? Why would I mean anything else?

          Calling out crazy republican behavior is xenophobic? Really?

          RationalWiki said this about Louie Ghomert, "He continues Texas' long, well-deserved reputation of electing eminently stupid people to federal office."

          So there are some people who think Texans do not elect the sanest people.

          You even talk about violence in your post. I know your not saying I advocated violence, but the connection is made. That's republican type tactics. I'm a social worker and have spent my life helping those who are less fortunate. Hell I'm a damn pacifist.

          It's amazing how many "supposed" liberals read things into my words that were not there. Texans must feel picked on because man are some of you thin skinned. Actually, I don't think anyone is a "supposed" liberal here. I wouldn't say that about another progressive. But it was said about me.

          I posted a link on Facebook to this post that's on my web site and only received kudo's because they understood the meaning of the post.

          First part of the post: If Texans want to go, let 'em. What's wrong with that?

          Second part. Two republicans from Texas were assholes. Do you have a problem with that?

          Third part: A lot of crazy republican crazies seem to be from Texas. That's my opinion, but it's not a slam on democrats or the state of Texas. It's an indictment of Texas republican politicians.

          One of the progressive principles I believe in is admitting when I've made a mistake or admitting when I was wrong.  Unlike Bush who never made a mistake. There is one paragraph I wish I would have written differently. I already admitted that here. I wonder whether anyone else has rethought their original opinion on this post?

          The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

          by Madrigal Maniac on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 08:44:37 PM PST

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          •  i say again: (1+ / 0-)
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            BlackSheep1

            'you could have ranted about the shameful antics of these congressmen without making a blanket statement about the state and its people. you might have had a great diary where all involved commiserate-instead, you've had to spend time defending it.'

            even in your above comment, you continued to do it. more than once. "So there are some people who think Texans do not elect the sanest people." and you quote some webpage to defend that. and some other comment about the republican crazies "seem to be from texas." you're educated. you know that's an illogical statement because you know that ohio and florida and etc. all have their share of the crazy. and then, when we objected to the anti-tx rhetoric, you called us thin-skinned, missing the proverbial forest for the trees and managed to insult us in the process.

            as a social worker, you understand the meaning of language that marginalizes a group of people. i contend (as others did who commented) that when someone talks about texans or ohioans or whatever "people" of a state in the way that you and some others have done (sheesh, those texans), it marginalizes those people. it exhibits a mild form of xenophobia, a situation of us vs them.

            and for me, that does connect w/ the violent rhetoric i read here sometimes. it is the seed from which that violence originates. us vs them.

            and i hope, as progressives, we try to 'be superior to our former selves.' it takes a great deal of circumspection.

            let me take you down, 'cause i'm going to strawberry fields. nothing is real, and nothing to get hung about.-jpgr

            by shesaid on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 10:59:14 PM PST

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            •  I'm sure (0+ / 0-)

              I mentioned that other states have problems inmy comments and even listed some of Ohio's. Everyone seemed to miss the part of the post where I admitted my response to secession was flippant, meaning I did not consider the answer very serious or well thought out.  

              My comment about the sanest people was in response to a quote from someone else. I didn't say it. It was to point out that their are others who are much harsher in their opinion of Texas than I ever was.

              Yes I was criticising  a group. They're called Republicans and I believe their policies are hurting the poor, increasing income inequality, racist, xenophobic, and can cause the deaths of others.

              There was a segment on 60 minutes about the lack of mental health treatment and how it caused the death of a congressman's son. As a mental health professional I lived that everyday and republicans don't seem to give a damn.

              Thanks for commenting.

              The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

              by Madrigal Maniac on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 04:11:54 AM PST

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  •  You better apologize to all those of us (2+ / 0-)
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    living south of the Nueces River, as we're overwhelmingly Mexican and vote accordingly.

    “I’m able to fly, do what I want, essentially. I guess that’s what freedom is — no limits.” Marybeth Onyeukwu -- Brooklyn DREAMer.

    by chuco35 on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 02:25:48 PM PST

    •  I should apoligize (0+ / 0-)

      for pointing out two republican assholes and being irritated by Texas citizens who talk crazy about succession. Including people like your republican governor. No, I don't think I'll apologize for that. Those who had a knee jerk reaction should probably apologize to me for assuming a lot of things that were not in the post. I never said I didn't like Texas. I never was critical of democrats. I did suggest that if the majority of Texans want to go, see ya. If they don't I hope they stay and vote for democrats.

      The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

      by Madrigal Maniac on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 05:27:33 PM PST

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  •  Padre Island in early summer. (3+ / 0-)
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    Endless bluebonnets in the hill country.
    Cadillac Ranch.
    Prickly pear margaritas at Manuels.
    The Marfa lights.
    90 heading west to San Antonio.
    That thrift store I still won't identify on the road to Amarillo.
    That roadhouse I also won't identify in Port Arthur.
    Following the Rio in pepper harvest season.
    The XIT museum in Dalhart.

    And I haven't even begun with the lovely, funny, generous people.

    Big place. Bound to find something you like.

    I live under the bridge to the 21st Century.

    by Crashing Vor on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 02:26:36 PM PST

    •  I like many things about Texas. (0+ / 0-)

      Especially Anne Richards who I loved. She gave one hell of a speech at the 1988 Democratic Convention. Thanks for the list.

      The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

      by Madrigal Maniac on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 05:31:15 PM PST

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    •  Thanks, Crashing Vor (1+ / 0-)
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      you're telling the truth about Texas. The diarist here clearly and demonstrably refuses to consider the possibility that such truth exists.

      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 07:42:13 PM PST

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  •  texas boonies? (2+ / 0-)
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    Every border county except Terrell voted for Obama. Terrel has oil.
    Ah yeah the boonies, the rest of America can just write them off as religious and gun totin' trogs...
    Well...our village voted 51 to 49 FOR Obama- someone didn't write us off, but worked and got their friend or family member to walk down to the community center and vote. That ONE vote made a difference.
    You know what we'd much rather have than a bunch a shit from Ohio? We would rather have the DNC run TV ads in Spanish, buy ads in the (dirt cheap) small town weekly papers on the border, send Ms Clinton down here to talk with her legions of devoted  Hispanic fans on a voter registration drive...
    My list goes on, instead of whippin'  us with our own cinchas please think of a constructive way to STAND BY WENDY, register Latinos, and  help us vote Dem.

    Dang!

    I buy and sell well trained riding mules and American Mammoth Jack Stock.

    by old mule on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 02:34:27 PM PST

    •  and on top a that, (2+ / 0-)
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      here is something that the national Dems could offer Texas that would flip this state in a minute-

      A program of humane immigration, humane treatment of families in custody of the chotas, sane marijuana enforcement policy, Spanish language publication of all DNC papers, want more?

      I realize those might be dreams but the more the national Dems TRY, the more people down here notice, and it will add up to votes.

      The Dems in Ohio historically had really great unions to push progressive policies and encourage voting....maybe Texas deserves some help from the national party.

      I don't feel I deserve nasty unproductive talk from up north.

      I buy and sell well trained riding mules and American Mammoth Jack Stock.

      by old mule on Wed Jan 29, 2014 at 02:46:36 PM PST

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    •  I think (0+ / 0-)

      registering Latinos would be a wonderful thing no matter who they vote for. Voting is one of the great privileges of being an American. I wish you good fortune in any efforts to register more Latinos.  

      The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

      by Madrigal Maniac on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 04:15:40 AM PST

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    •  hells to the yes, old mule! n/t (1+ / 0-)
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      LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

      by BlackSheep1 on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 07:42:54 PM PST

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  •  To my friends from Texas. (0+ / 0-)

    Thank you for the comments, even the ones that said I should fuck myself which I believe is physically impossible.  Seriously, I have learned a lot.

    While I wouldn't change the tenor of my post, I have already admitted I would word the paragraph about Stockman differently. In addition, I would have included a paragraph highlighting the feelings of the liberal Texas residents. They are real, valid, and honest. Unfortunately, there was no way for me to know them at the time.

    The same post is on my web site and the feedback I received was much different than here. People from around the country focused on my criticism of the two republicans and their comments about Obama.

    Here many felt I had disrespected Texas which was not my intention.

    There is sometimes a backlash towards Texas from others around the country because of their size and their perceived superior attitude. I never, nor do I now believe that is true.

    I can understand the anger over others being critical for no reason. When people find out I'm a graduate of The Ohio State University and am a Buckeye fan, I get looked on as some sort of fanatical criminal. Our coach gets called all sorts of names and many seem to dislike the Buckeyes. I guess it's part of the territory. You may get the same as the University of Texas is also a college powerhouse. You recently lost a great man in Mack Brown when he decided to retire.

    Due to my newfound information, I plan today to write an addendum on my site sharing my experience here and the feelings of people who have bigger stake in the discussion than "some dude from Ohio." I think it's an important part of the story.

    The truth is that there is nothing noble in being superior to somebody else. The only real nobility is in being superior to your former self. -Whitney Young

    by Madrigal Maniac on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 07:56:17 AM PST

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