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No one can say it better than the actual victim of a sexual assault (alleged).  This is a letter sent to the Woody Allen fans across the world from his daughter Dylan.

Woody Allen is a living testament to the way our society fails the survivors of sexual assault and abuse.

So imagine your seven-year-old daughter being led into an attic by Woody Allen. Imagine she spends a lifetime stricken with nausea at the mention of his name. Imagine a world that celebrates her tormenter.

Are you imagining that? Now, what’s your favorite Woody Allen movie?

This was a child calling out for help.
When I asked my mother if her dad did to her what Woody Allen did to me, I honestly did not know the answer. I also didn’t know the firestorm it would trigger. I didn’t know that my father would use his sexual relationship with my sister to cover up the abuse he inflicted on me. I didn’t know that he would accuse my mother of planting the abuse in my head and call her a liar for defending me. I didn’t know that I would be made to recount my story over and over again, to doctor after doctor, pushed to see if I’d admit I was lying as part of a legal battle I couldn’t possibly understand. At one point, my mother sat me down and told me that I wouldn’t be in trouble if I was lying – that I could take it all back. I couldn’t. It was all true. But sexual abuse claims against the powerful stall more easily. There were experts willing to attack my credibility. There were doctors willing to gaslight an abused child.
He is possibly a child molester so stop giving him hugs and kudos for a job well done.
When Woody Allen’s career was celebrated at last month’s Golden Globe Awards, the allegations that he sexually assaulted the seven year old daughter of his former partner Mia Farrow were reignited, mostly thanks to a blunt tweet from her half-brother, and new MSNBC host, Ronan Farrow:
From Ronan Farrow

This is the letter in full

What’s your favorite Woody Allen movie? Before you answer, you should know: when I was seven years old, Woody Allen took me by the hand and led me into a dim, closet-like attic on the second floor of our house. He told me to lay on my stomach and play with my brother’s electric train set. Then he sexually assaulted me. He talked to me while he did it, whispering that I was a good girl, that this was our secret, promising that we’d go to Paris and I’d be a star in his movies. I remember staring at that toy train, focusing on it as it traveled in its circle around the attic. To this day, I find it difficult to look at toy trains.

For as long as I could remember, my father had been doing things to me that I didn’t like. I didn’t like how often he would take me away from my mom, siblings and friends to be alone with him. I didn’t like it when he would stick his thumb in my mouth. I didn’t like it when I had to get in bed with him under the sheets when he was in his underwear. I didn’t like it when he would place his head in my naked lap and breathe in and breathe out. I would hide under beds or lock myself in the bathroom to avoid these encounters, but he always found me. These things happened so often, so routinely, so skillfully hidden from a mother that would have protected me had she known, that I thought it was normal. I thought this was how fathers doted on their daughters. But what he did to me in the attic felt different. I couldn’t keep the secret anymore.

When I asked my mother if her dad did to her what Woody Allen did to me, I honestly did not know the answer. I also didn’t know the firestorm it would trigger. I didn’t know that my father would use his sexual relationship with my sister to cover up the abuse he inflicted on me. I didn’t know that he would accuse my mother of planting the abuse in my head and call her a liar for defending me. I didn’t know that I would be made to recount my story over and over again, to doctor after doctor, pushed to see if I’d admit I was lying as part of a legal battle I couldn’t possibly understand. At one point, my mother sat me down and told me that I wouldn’t be in trouble if I was lying – that I could take it all back. I couldn’t. It was all true. But sexual abuse claims against the powerful stall more easily. There were experts willing to attack my credibility. There were doctors willing to gaslight an abused child.

After a custody hearing denied my father visitation rights, my mother declined to pursue criminal charges, despite findings of probable cause by the State of Connecticut – due to, in the words of the prosecutor, the fragility of the “child victim.” Woody Allen was never convicted of any crime. That he got away with what he did to me haunted me as I grew up. I was stricken with guilt that I had allowed him to be near other little girls. I was terrified of being touched by men. I developed an eating disorder. I began cutting myself. That torment was made worse by Hollywood. All but a precious few (my heroes) turned a blind eye. Most found it easier to accept the ambiguity, to say, “who can say what happened,” to pretend that nothing was wrong. Actors praised him at awards shows. Networks put him on TV. Critics put him in magazines. Each time I saw my abuser’s face – on a poster, on a t-shirt, on television – I could only hide my panic until I found a place to be alone and fall apart.

Last week, Woody Allen was nominated for his latest Oscar. But this time, I refuse to fall apart. For so long, Woody Allen’s acceptance silenced me. It felt like a personal rebuke, like the awards and accolades were a way to tell me to shut up and go away. But the survivors of sexual abuse who have reached out to me – to support me and to share their fears of coming forward, of being called a liar, of being told their memories aren’t their memories – have given me a reason to not be silent, if only so others know that they don’t have to be silent either.

Today, I consider myself lucky. I am happily married. I have the support of my amazing brothers and sisters. I have a mother who found within herself a well of fortitude that saved us from the chaos a predator brought into our home.

But others are still scared, vulnerable, and struggling for the courage to tell the truth. The message that Hollywood sends matters for them.

What if it had been your child, Cate Blanchett? Louis CK? Alec Baldwin? What if it had been you, Emma Stone? Or you, Scarlett Johansson? You knew me when I was a little girl, Diane Keaton. Have you forgotten me?

Woody Allen is a living testament to the way our society fails the survivors of sexual assault and abuse.

So imagine your seven-year-old daughter being led into an attic by Woody Allen. Imagine she spends a lifetime stricken with nausea at the mention of his name. Imagine a world that celebrates her tormenter.

Are you imagining that? Now, what’s your favorite Woody Allen movie?

Originally posted to The Sheeping of America on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 07:06 PM PST.

Also republished by Rape and Domestic Violence.

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  •  This is strong. (9+ / 0-)


    “The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had.” ― Eric Schmidt

    by Pluto on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 07:44:16 PM PST

    •  And it does beg the question (12+ / 0-)

      "How do we judge a culture that celebrates the artistry of a man who rapes his little girl?"

      What kind of a culture is that?


      “The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had.” ― Eric Schmidt

      by Pluto on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 07:46:41 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Why did Americans persecute Roman Polanski (4+ / 0-)

        …and not Woody Allen?

        Xenophobia?


        “The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had.” ― Eric Schmidt

        by Pluto on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 08:00:05 PM PST

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        •  Why does Mia Farrow (2+ / 0-)
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          Health insurance is not health care.

          by Jarrayy on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 08:23:33 PM PST

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          •  I was ready to be outraged (4+ / 0-)

            But she's not 'supporting' him according to those articles. She was asked to testify in a court case and simply told what she remembered - it wasn't about the rape case, anyway, but something else.

            Good girls shop. Bad girls shop. Shoppin', shoppin' from A to Z!

            by Zornorph on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 08:52:10 PM PST

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          •  Polanski didn't deny what he did, (2+ / 0-)
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            He apologized to his victim. He had to flee the US because the judge was out to get him.

            Woody Allen never admitted his crime. Brava to Dylan for exposing this child molester.

            To thine ownself be true

            by Agathena on Sun Feb 02, 2014 at 02:12:01 AM PST

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            •  Judge (7+ / 0-)

              By 'out to get him' do you mean 'make him pay for his crime'? Just saying 'sorry' doesn't cut it when you anally rape a 13yo.

              Good girls shop. Bad girls shop. Shoppin', shoppin' from A to Z!

              by Zornorph on Sun Feb 02, 2014 at 05:23:58 AM PST

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              •  Not talking about Polansky's crimes and you know (0+ / 0-)

                it. You are responding to what I am not saying. I am not saying Polansky is innocent. I am saying he did not react to being exposed for his pedophilia crimes the way WA responded.

                To thine ownself be true

                by Agathena on Tue Feb 04, 2014 at 05:51:04 PM PST

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            •  So the judge is the bad guy in the Polanski case? (2+ / 0-)
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            •  bizarro logic here--so Polanski is the good guy, (4+ / 0-)
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              for screwing a 13-year-old girl, because he admitted it, and also totally justified in fleeing the States to avoid jail time?

              Ever consider the possibility that maybe Woody Allen "never admitted his crime" because he never committed a crime?

              Gotta love all the self-appointed Grand Inquistors who think they can tell a child molester by sight, "I always knew there was something creepy about him," etc. and who have no compunctions about twisting the truth and sometimes stating outright lies to justify their conclusions.

              There was an investigation; they looked for evidence, they concluded they didn't have anything. What they found were witness accounts that failed to support and sometimes contradicted the accusations, lack of any physical evidence of sexual abuse, potential ulterior motives on Mia Farrow's part and the possibility that the child was coached, etc.

              Dylan Farrow's story remains just that--a story. The authorities already investigated and decided that there wasn't enough evidence to back up that story.

              "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

              by limpidglass on Sun Feb 02, 2014 at 08:48:00 AM PST

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              •  Not what I read above. (1+ / 0-)
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                my mother declined to pursue criminal charges, despite findings of probable cause by the State of Connecticut
                as opposed to your statement:
                they concluded they didn't have anything
                When a parent is denied visitation there is usually cause.
                And surely folks on either side of a tragic case in which they are not involved include those
                who have no compunctions about twisting the truth and sometimes stating outright lies to justify their conclusions.
              •  That's not what I wrote (0+ / 0-)

                You are responding to what I am not saying. I am not saying Polansky is innocent. I am saying he did not react to being exposed for his pedophilia crimes the way WA responded.

                Testimony is evidence, there was the child's testimony and there were witnesses who reported inappropriate behaviour of Allen towards the child.

                There was no physical evidence because of the manner of the sexual assault. You need to read a little more.

                To thine ownself be true

                by Agathena on Tue Feb 04, 2014 at 05:54:07 PM PST

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      •  Hopefully, a culture where people are innocent ... (7+ / 0-)

        ... until proven guilty.

        •  That's the level of evidence needed for (0+ / 0-)

          a court of law, but lack of evidence or insufficient proof for a conviction in court does not necessarily imply that a suspect is "innocent" (see OJ or Casey Anthony, for example).    

          People do not need to adhere to the court's standard when making up their own mind regarding who or what to believe. In the Casey Anthony case, for example, you have a mother of a child who did not report her toddler daughter missing for over a month. In fact, she never reported her daughter missing -- it would have gone on longer, except for the grandmother who was sufficiently motivated to try to see her granddaughter that ended up realizing that the toddler was missing.
           

          •  However, the world would be a better place... (1+ / 0-)
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            People do not need to adhere to the court's standard when making up their own mind regarding who or what to believe.
            ... if people made up their own minds based on credible evidence. For example, if all the silliness that Limbaugh and Faux News comes up with was dismissed as silliness.

            Addressing the topic under discussion here, the fact that Woody Allen once kissed a 16-year-old actress in a scene in a movie is no evidence whatsoever that Allen is a child molester, and I am not going to trust the judgment of anyone who would make such a claim.

      •  just like the industry and population celebrates (0+ / 0-)

        roman polanski... they say "but he's a GENIUS"

        he's not - they are not - they are perverts.

        disgusting, sick, criminal perverts!

        EdriesShop Is it kind? is it true? is it necessary?

        by edrie on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 10:21:40 PM PST

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  •  Imagine a world where facts (13+ / 0-)

    were more important than emotion.

    Just a bit from the long article:

    On April 20, 1993, a sworn statement was entered into evidence by Dr. John M. Leventhal, who headed the Yale-New Haven Hospital investigative team looking into the abuse charges. An article from the New York Times dated May 4, 1993, includes some interesting excerpts of their findings. As to why the team felt the charges didn’t hold water, Leventhal states: “We had two hypotheses: one, that these were statements made by an emotionally disturbed child and then became fixed in her mind. And the other hypothesis was that she was coached or influenced by her mother. We did not come to a firm conclusion. We think that it was probably a combination.”
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/...

    This is much more complicated that her contrived letter lets on.

    Even though it is impossible to fight against emotions I am posting this with the hope that people actually sit and take the time to remember the whole history. I do hope people remember that before they start rehashing the many falsehoods relating to Allen.

    Health insurance is not health care.

    by Jarrayy on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 07:58:22 PM PST

    •  What's the history part? (7+ / 1-)

      That Allen frist screwed his other daughter -- and then married her?

      No pattern there.


      “The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn't understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had.” ― Eric Schmidt

      by Pluto on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 08:08:40 PM PST

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    •  So what are you saying ignore her (6+ / 0-)

      Everything is complicated and why do you call her letters contrived?

      •  Yes, Ignore her, she may be abused but Woody (2+ / 0-)
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        was not the abuser. I feel sorry for her, but this is all pretty sick stuff.

      •  She could completely remember (2+ / 0-)
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        this happening yet it never happened. This is not the story of a continually abused kid. This is a one-time memory of a 5-minute episode in the life of a 7-year old. We know, with great evidentiary weight, that such memories are highly unreliable (yet indistinguishable from actual memories by the subject).

        •  You don't know that (2+ / 0-)
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          it never happened. You don't know that.

          •  Of course I don't. (2+ / 0-)
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            But not knowing it did not happen is nothing like assuming it did.

            •  this is akin (3+ / 0-)
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              Zornorph, 4kedtongue, doc2

              To accusing someone, during the 1950s, of being a communist. All it takes is one accusation, however unfounded, and people run with it and have a person guilty and convicted without any evidence.

              Health insurance is not health care.

              by Jarrayy on Sun Feb 02, 2014 at 05:06:01 AM PST

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              •  I think it is coming from those (4+ / 0-)
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                who are so angry about molestation that they've decided to simply believe all accusers. Molestation is a terrible thing. But so are stories of innocent men (and women) who have had their lives ruined (or have been driven to suicide) based on completely false allegations that are impossible to disprove.

                Molesters usually molest more than once in their lives. So usually there are going to be multiple incidents, or multiple victims. The likelihood of false memories obviously goes down as the number of incidents goes up. Often there will be witnesses, or some hard evidence. But in this particular case, there is a) countervailing testimony from the nanny, b) no hard evidence, c) no other incidents with this child or any other, and d) the sole witness, the child, was only 7 and told completely inconsistent stories when this first allegedly happened. Add to that that this happened while her wacky mother was engaged in a brutal legal battle with the accused, and anyone who has an open mind will realize that a presumption of innocence is appropriate here.

      •  The comments here reflect the attitude (2+ / 0-)
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        terranova108, elmo

        In the larger community that ignored the word of the child abuse victim and continued to revere her abuser. It's shameful.

        To thine ownself be true

        by Agathena on Sun Feb 02, 2014 at 02:26:49 AM PST

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    •  Anybody interested in facts should read your link (12+ / 0-)

      The Woody Allen Allegations: Not So Fast

      None of us were there. This is melodramatic matter like one of those twisted dark Greek tragedies. So there's going to be an element of he-said, she-said, no matter how finely we sift the available evidence.
      All the more reason why anyone pronouncing an opinion on this needs to read that article first:

      I know I’m treading a delicate path here, and opening myself up to accusations of “blaming the victim.” However, I’m merely floating scenarios to consider, and you can think what you will. But if Mia’s account is true, it means that in the middle of custody and support negotiations, during which Woody needed to be on his best behavior, in a house belonging to his furious ex-girlfriend, and filled with people seething mad at him, Woody, who is a well-known claustrophobic, decided this would be the ideal time and place to take his daughter into an attic and molest her, quickly, before a house full of children and nannies noticed they were both missing. . . .

      In the midst of the proceedings, on February 2, 1993, a revealing article appeared in the Los Angeles Times, headlined: “Nanny Casts Doubt on Farrow Charges,” in which former nanny Monica Thompson (whose salary was paid by Allen, since three of the brood were also his) swore in a deposition to Allen’s attorneys that she was pressured by Farrow to support the molestation charges, and the pressure led her to resign her position. Thompson had this to say about the videotape: ““I know that the tape was made over the course of at least two and perhaps three days. I recall Ms. Farrow saying to Dylan at that time, ‘Dylan, what did daddy do… and what did he do next?’ Dylan appeared not to be interested, and Ms. Farrow would stop taping for a while and then continue.”

      Thompson further revealed a conversation she had with Kristie Groteke, another nanny. “She told me that she felt guilty allowing Ms. Farrow to say those things about Mr. Allen. (Groteke) said the day Mr. Allen spent with the kids, she did not have Dylan out of her sight for longer than five minutes. She did not remember Dylan being without her underwear.” . . .

      Leventhal further swears Dylan’s statements at the hospital contradicted each other as well as the story she told on the videotape. “Those were not minor inconsistencies. She told us initially that she hadn’t been touched in the vaginal area, and she then told us that she had, then she told us that she hadn’t.” He also said the child’s accounts had “a rehearsed quality.” At one point, she told him, “I like to cheat on my stories.” The sworn statement further concludes: “Even before the claim of abuse was made last August, the view of Mr. Allen as an evil and awful and terrible man permeated the household. The view that he had molested Soon-Yi and was a potential molester of Dylan permeated the household… It’s quite possible —as a matter of fact, we think it’s medically probable—that (Dylan) stuck to that story over time because of the intense relationship she had with her mother.” Leventhal further notes it was “very striking” that each time Dylan spoke of the abuse, she coupled it with “one, her father’s relationship with Soon-Yi, and two, the fact that it was her poor mother, her poor mother,” who had lost a career in Mr. Allen’s films.

      This article isn't proof, but it comes across as very credible - it's got a lot of supporting evidence, and sounds more reasonable than most of what I've read about this whole strange affair.

      "Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth" Samuel Johnson

      by Brecht on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 09:43:11 PM PST

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    •  Did you read the scathing judgement (1+ / 0-)
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      By the Connecticut judge against Allen? Look it up before using the word "contrived."

      It's online, 30 pages.

      To thine ownself be true

      by Agathena on Sun Feb 02, 2014 at 02:16:49 AM PST

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    •  It's true that memories from a 7 year old (0+ / 0-)

      in the midst of a custody dispute may not meet the level of evidence needed in a court of law, but that doesn't mean that nothing happened.

      Obviously, few people know what (if anything) really happened, but there are other indirectly-related facts that bother me -- call me old-fashioned, but if I were 56, I would not see the 19-year old adopted daughter of my girlfriend as "fair game".  

      •  there is a difference between being a "creep", (2+ / 0-)
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        which is to some degree subjective, and a child molester, which has a legal definition.

        If everyone who was a "creep" was a rapist or child molester, civilization would have fallen apart long ago. And there are plenty of wholesome-looking people, whose outward behavior comports with the norms and conventions of society in every respect, who turn out to be criminals and real sick puppies.

        Dating the 19-year-old adopted daughter of one's girlfriend? Inappropriate? Perhaps, depending on one's standards. Scandalous? Absolutely, in our society obsessed with titillation and voyeurism. But it doesn't mean he's a criminal.

        "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

        by limpidglass on Sun Feb 02, 2014 at 09:01:32 AM PST

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        •  I agree that there is insufficient proof (0+ / 0-)

          and questionable witnesses/motives involved. I don't see Woody Allen as a criminal, but will do what I can based on my own conclusions -- and that is never to watch or support another of his movies or projects. That's my choice.

    •  Interesting (0+ / 0-)

      that one of their hypotheses was not "Woody Allen molested a seven year old girl."

      I think that says just about everything that needs to be said.

      •  They *started* with that as a hypothesis, (0+ / 0-)

        but their own findings forced them to discard it as invalid.

        And yes, I've been digging into as much original documentation as I could find. There's not a lot that's authoritative, and there's tons and tons and tons of opinions with varying degrees of bias depending on who was friends with whom, who believed whom, who was there, who was not, who got their information second- or third-hand from tabloids, etc.

        If it's
        Not your body,
        Then it's
        Not your choice
        And it's
        None of your damn business!

        by TheOtherMaven on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 10:55:39 AM PST

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  •  I truly feel her pain, the whole family's pain. nt (2+ / 0-)

    Republicans only care about themselves, their money, & their power.

    by jdmorg on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 08:01:44 PM PST

  •  You should be hit rated, what a pile of shit. (14+ / 0-)

    Pieced together from what has come out over the years, and not being an expert on the situation, just a gawker...

    The DISTRICT ATTORNEY did not find the claims credible. Two nanny's have since come forward detailing how Mia Farrow coached the daughter and tried to get her workers to lie in the matter.

    At the time, the DA had been all wishy washy, and later was disciplined for his behavior not clearly exonerating Woody Allen.

    One of the nanny's says Dylan wasn't out of her sight all that day for more than a minute. Another nany said Mia Farrow made the original tape of Dylan over the ourse of days, with lots of stopping starting and getting Dylan to say what she wanted.

    This was contemporaneous with child abuse scandals at daycare centers around the country that turned out to be total bullshit, with coaching and manipulation by idiots and unscrupulous "therapists" that wreaked untold damage on innocent people, and ended up with many spending years in prison on what ended up being complete made up fantasy.

    It all utterly strains credulity that Woody Allen would do such a thing in such a place surrounded by such a hostile crowd to begin with.

    Simply put, pissed of ex-wife still steaming over her 20 year old daughter stealing her husband, and fueled by the hiysteria gripping the country at the time, concocted a tale that the police/DA found not credible.

    The daughter has since had this drummed into her head so much she now believes it.

    Since none of us were there, lets just KNOCK OFF the whole "outrage" act.

  •  Their son Moses Farrow says not to believe it (11+ / 0-)

    He says that he and his siblings were victims of "brainwashing" by Mia Farrow.

    I remember the disgraceful McMartin Preschool witchhunt in the eighties, and how false memories resulted in convictions of innocent people. Memories can be implanted inadvertently and easily in children, and since contemporaneous police investigation found the Allen molestation charge to be baseless, False Memory Syndrome is the most likely explanation.

    That is unless you want to believe in conspiracy theories.

    •  Their other son says the opposite (0+ / 0-)

      If your argument is that one of Woody Allen's children (adopted or biological) should be believed, rather than his daughter, then you surely must give equal weight to the other child, Ronan (Satchel), who takes the opposite view.

      That makes one out of three who says it was a false accusation.

      I don't know what happened. The judge said that the evidence was inconclusive. A prosecutor said there was probable cause, but it would be traumatic to the child to pursue it. The family court judge allowed Allen to have visitation rights with Ronan, but only under supervision, but no visitation with Dylan.

      But there is even less evidence of whether Mia Farrow did, or did not, brainwash her children.

  •  There is extensive literature on the (7+ / 0-)

    irreliability of childhood memories. I'm sure this woman thinks she was molested. She may even be able to visualize it. But we know now that such memories can be created by the imagination, yet feel every bit as real as a true memory. When she first claimed this, several adults testified -there was a trial - that her story had fundamentally changed several times; the nanny said she was with them all day and noticed nothing. The bottom line is that no one should take a decade's-old childhood memory as reliable. For anyone to assume Allen is a child molester, especially absent any other incidents or corroborating information, is simply unfair and antithetical to principals of fairness.

  •  Old Vanity Fair article (2+ / 0-)
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    (parts of which appear to be in the Daily Beast article written by a friend of Mr. Allen's that is quoted above)
    written by Maureen Orth is fairly comprehensive on the whole sad story.

    Interesting that so many people who don't know this family personally seem to be experts on what happened.

  •  Honestly (1+ / 0-)
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    buffie

    I had been unaware of the charges about Dylan until the recent Vanity Fair article - I only knew about him going with Soon-Yi. I'll be honest, I find Woody Allen so repulsive to look at that I was prepared to 'judge a book by it's cover' and assume he did it. Shame on me - Woody does look gross and creepy, but having read articles on both sides, I would now more than give him the benefit of the doubt and say I really don't think he did it.
    Yeah, hooking up with Soon-Yi was all kinds of tacky and gross, but Mia Farrow seems to hardly be one to talk about that sort of thing.
    I still hate Woody's boring movies, but I don't think he's a pedophile. And I should know better than to jump to conclusions - especially given that they came during a nasty divorce. I will say this - if Mia made it up and planted it in her daughter's head, there is a special place in Hell for her. Not only would that make Woody a victim, but also Dylan, Ronan and everybody else in the family. Perhaps she will wind up getting raped by Satan after all.

    Good girls shop. Bad girls shop. Shoppin', shoppin' from A to Z!

    by Zornorph on Sat Feb 01, 2014 at 10:56:52 PM PST

    •  Not a divorce (0+ / 0-)

      Mia Farrow and Woody Allen were not married. There was no divorce.

      There was a custody dispute with respect to Dylan, Moshe (Moses), and Ronan (Satchel).

      The judge granted custody of all three to Mia Farrow, and denied Allen visitation rights with Dylan. Allen was allowed to see Ronan, but only under supervision. Moses, who was a teen-ager, chose not to see Allen.

  •  Dylan Farrow is telling the truth (2+ / 0-)
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    To thine ownself be true

    by Agathena on Sun Feb 02, 2014 at 02:41:35 AM PST

    •  That article says no such thing. (4+ / 0-)

      But you and the diarist are saying "he did it!" on the internet so it must be true.

      •  No a prosecutor in 1992 said there was (2+ / 0-)
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        probable cause, a judge ruled against Allen in a scathing 33 page conclusion to a custody trial.

        I believe the victim.

        Stick with your protection of a celebrity pedophile.

        To thine ownself be true

        by Agathena on Sun Feb 02, 2014 at 05:25:17 AM PST

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        •  The judge did NOT rule against (0+ / 0-)

          him. Are you intentionally posting falsities? Or are you just completely misinformed but believe in pontificating anyhow?

          •  More than one conclusion in custody decision (0+ / 0-)

            doc2, the judge saw the sexual abuse allegations as inconclusive, so, in that matter, the judge did not "rule against" Woody Allen.

            But the judge did award custody of all three children to Mia Farrow, so, in that respect, the judge did rule for Mia Farrow and against Woody Allen, who was seeking custody of all the children.

            Allen was allowed to see one child, Ronan, under supervision. He was not allowed to see Dylan. Moses refused to see him.

            •  So? (0+ / 0-)

              Kids are almost always given to the mother. And a child had accused him of abuse, so of course a judge is going to consider that. But that is a far cry from the guy actually being found guilty. It really means nothing.

              How come he never molested her on any other occasion? How come he didn't molest any of the other kids? How come this 70 year old man has never been accused of anything like this by any other child? You really think that a person would up and molest a child out of the blue, as a one-time behavior? Does that comport with your understanding of how molesters operate?

              •  No, I don't think this was a one time behavior (0+ / 0-)

                as the Vanity Fair articles explain. The incident in the attic was an escalation of previous behavior.

                I shuddered when I learned that Allen and his wife adopted two girls.  

                •  Oh brother. (0+ / 0-)

                  Indictment based on a magazine article. Nice.

                  •  you seem equally willing to acquit (0+ / 0-)

                    based on a magazine article.

                    I just ask you this: would you be so certain that the allegations are false if they were made against Joe Smith, and not a famous film maker?

                    For me, the fact that there were multiple adults who witnessed creepy behavior by Allen toward Dillon before the Soon Yi pictures were found, and before the custody battle even began, is significant. One of these adults was a therapist.
                    Where there is smoke, often there's fire.

                    If anything, I think Mia Farrow can be criticized for not protecting her daughter. The signs were there; she didn't act on them until after Allen left her.

  •  hemingways first kiss (1+ / 0-)
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    Allen defintely is creepy.  He knew 16 year old mariel was a virgin and had never been kissed.  Her first kiss was with him in the movie Manhattan.  Yuck.

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