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Below the squiggly is my excerpts from an article that just blew me away (http://www.theguardian.com/...). I think it may be the basis of my whole campaign, if I can properly digest it.  Anybody know what NLP from 30 years ago stood for?

... the left has cleaved moderately well to established principles around the politics of the individual – women are equal, racism is wrong, homophobia is wrong. But everything else: a fair day's work for a fair day's pay, the essential dignity of all humans, even if they're foreign people or young people, education as a public good, the natural world as a treasure rather than an instrument of our convenience, the existence of motives besides profit, the pointlessness and poison of privatisation, the profundity, worth and purpose of pooling resources … this stuff is an embarrassment to centre-left parties...

In the strict-father worldview, he explains, "The father is the ultimate authority, he knows right from wrong, his job is to protect the family and so he's the strongest person, and because he knows right from wrong, his authority is deserved. His children are born bad, because they just do what feels good, they don't do what's right. They have to be trained out of feelgood liberalism into doing what's right. You have to punish the kids painfully enough that they'll start doing what's right and they'll get discipline. If they're disciplined, they go out into the world, and they earn a living. If they're not earning a living, they're not disciplined, therefore they can't be moral and they deserve their poverty."

The nurturant-family model is the progressive view: in it, the ideals are empathy, interdependence, co-operation, communication, authority that is legitimate and proves its legitimacy with its openness to interrogation.

If all political belief originates from one of two wellsprings, if the last thing you should do to propagate your belief is to water it down, if backing it up with facts just weakens it

...Todd Akin, the Republican who notoriously opposed abortion even for rape victims, on the basis that proper victims didn't normally get pregnant because "the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down". ...   "You have to go up a level, to the moral level. You have to say, this is somebody who's interested in male domination. That's what liberals are afraid to do."

...falling into the trap of trying to dispel welfare "myths", instead of talking about a social security system of which we should be proud.

You want to defend the right to have an abortion, you want to stop privatisation, you want to protect the natural world – as Lakoff has often written, these are not three separate arguments, they are all part of the same worldview.

"...as soon as you monetise something in nature, a cost-benefit analysis will come in. Nature always loses, because nature goes on for ever."

 "They don't understand their own moral system or the other guy's, they don't know what's at stake, they don't know about framing, they don't know about metaphors, they don't understand the extent to which emotion is rational, they don't understand how vital emotion is, they try to hide their emotion. They do everything wrong because they're miseducated. And they're proud of that miseducation. Oxford philosophy reigns supreme, right? Oxford philosophy is killing the world."

[from the comments]  NLP was kind of a cult, and was rejected by academics, but it explained a number of things that Lakoff and other academic researchers have chosen to ignore.

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  •  Neuro-Linguistic Programming (2+ / 0-)
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    yoduuuh do or do not, Naniboujou

    Some people gave it a lot more credibility than it deserved, some a bit less.

    •  Yes (0+ / 0-)

      Al Gore, Ari Fleisher, and Frank Luntz are clearly proficient in it.

      If you remember one of Al Gore's lines in a debate was, paraphrasing: "exaggerations we can be proud of" in response his involvement with the beginnings of the Internet, although this was not the question being asked of him.

      NLP is influenced by Fritz Perls (Gestalt Therapy), Virginia Satir (Family Therapy), and Milton Erickson (Hypnosis), among others.

  •  I've long agreed with some of Lakoff's points (2+ / 0-)
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    yoduuuh do or do not, Sandino

    and disagreed with others. His "strict father" model is sort of simplistic, perhaps because he doesn't identify it as wishful thinking. That is, people who are into domination of their own kind, sense that the attitude is inappropriate (they would not want to be dominated themselves) and so they rationalize an excuse (the other is evil) to adopt it anyway.

    One thing we have to remember is that unless or until humans can tell time and settle themselves in a relatively permanent location, there's no reason or need to connect a particular intimate interaction with another person to the birth of an off-spring nine months later. I'm not sure when telling time became a widespread social attribute, but I do know that even in the modern world there are any number of people who have no sense of time and only the vaguest of memories of when things happened. So, fatherhood is not something that's independently experience, as motherhood is, and the whole concept is largely a social construct man has invented because a sense of connection is useful to the maintenance of the species. Although there is a biological basis, fatherhood is mainly a figment of the imagination.

    What's the point of domination or dominion? Being cared for and served by someone else is obviously desirable, especially when an individual suffers from deficits that prevent him/her from successfully manipulating the environment to serve themselves. Illness and injury are a constant in nature and whenever they occur, it is necessary to have help if the individual is not to expire prematurely. Every organism dies; it's premature death that is detrimental to the survival of the species.

    Some humans are incompetent; others are lazy. Both find it convenient to have others do for them and do nothing in return. They take without giving and shirk their responsibilities. Which leads to the observation that privatization is not pointless. Privatization is just public officials shirking their responsibilities -- a double fault because they actually hired on to carry out more than their natural share of doing for themselves and compensating those who do for them. Public officials who take pay and refuse to compensate others are double-dipping -- i.e. engaging in sophisticated thievery. Theft is not pointless.

    That the private sector is more efficient is a lie. The notion that self-interest satisfied by profit will prompt higher quality and more effort has been proved false. Self-interest cannot produce quality when a person has no sense of self, as happens to be the case with many people. Indeed, the lack of a sense of self may even account for why they are practically incompetent -- i.e. exactly the wrong people to hire for any task.

    Language is useful. But, sometimes it leads us wrong.

    Economists used to argue that "man prefers leisure and must be bribed to work." That's just a milder form of declaring that man is lazy (bad) and forcing him to work for his survival is good. It is a justification, in retrospect, for coercive behavior. It presumes that humans have a right, if not a duty, to coerce other people and, because coercion is likely to prompt resistance, people have invented a rationale to make it good. Economics is categorized as the "dismal science," but it's not a science based on knowledge. Rather, it arises from instinct and is not so much dismal as perverse. Economics as taught is a perverse figment of the imagination or ideology.

    http://hannah.smith-family.com

    by hannah on Fri Feb 07, 2014 at 01:11:17 AM PST

    •  Paternal vs. Maternal Modes (1+ / 0-)
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      yoduuuh do or do not

      These are basic modes:

      Paternal is directive/commanding and punishing - knowing what's best and allowing no discussion of why; while Maternal is permissive and nurturing/rewarding - more interested in "shaping" rather than forcing behavior. This doesn't mean all men are one way and all women the other, it's just a way of splitting the territory.

      This has little to do with Fatherhood vs Motherhood. Women can act paternalistically and vice versa. And virtually everyone acts in both modes depending on context.

      •  Yes, but which came first, the behavior or (1+ / 0-)
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        yoduuuh do or do not

        the designation?  All binary models have to be suspect, IMHO, because they likely merely mimic the arrangement of our appendages and sensory organs. If tactile sensations were more prevalent than visual, it's likely we'd not be dividing our environment into two parts.

        It's not paternity that makes some humans as domineering as bulls. It's not paternity that makes some humans act superior without any basis in fact.

        http://hannah.smith-family.com

        by hannah on Fri Feb 07, 2014 at 02:19:00 AM PST

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