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  •  Heh, second mag is "BONES". (3+ / 0-)
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    Just Bob, Rolfyboy6, shanikka

    I saw an ad for something I can't even recall the product, but the ad was a bunch of starving models cavorting and flinging their hair around.  I just screamed at the screen: "EAT SOMETHING!!!"

    "Well, yeah, the Constitution is worth it if you succeed." - Nancy Pelosi, 6/30/07 // "Succeed?" At what?

    by nailbender on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:04:30 PM PST

  •  I applaud CVS for taking tobacco out of their (13+ / 0-)

    stores.

    Count me among those who didn't see the humor in this strip.

    •  Well - I see the humor in it, (1+ / 0-)
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      Micburke

      and honestly thought it could be tongue-in-cheek. As everybody knows, though, candy / soft drinks / lousy magazines are unlike cigarettes in that cigarettes are a product that - when used as intended - will create an addiction and damage your health (or kill you).

      Mind you, there are those on the Right side of the political spectrum who actually are going after CVS for being hypocritical for continuing to sell snacks, etc. But those people are idiots. As everybody knows.

      Being the single intellectual in a village of 1,100 souls ain't much fun, especially when 1,099 of those don't think you're all that smart.--Lucy Marsden

      by Miniaussiefan on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:35:41 PM PST

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      •  I've also never heard of anyone (0+ / 0-)

        having an issue with second hand sugar or fat -- whereas there are people with issues to second hand smoke.

        There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

        by Cali Scribe on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 04:17:48 PM PST

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        •  True. (0+ / 0-)

          Secondhand dark chocolate, though .... I'd have issues with that.

          In that if you had the chocolate bar & were standing nearby, I'd suffer and have issues with it. With you. With your not sharing, to be precise. ;)

          Being the single intellectual in a village of 1,100 souls ain't much fun, especially when 1,099 of those don't think you're all that smart.--Lucy Marsden

          by Miniaussiefan on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 04:28:47 PM PST

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    •  i see the humor (5+ / 0-)

      but on the other hand i'm all 'jesus, can't anybody do anything good?'

      i mean, for fuck's sake. i know that the hardest part about being a progressive is giving anybody who isn't absolutely perfect credit for anything good, ever. but give me a break.

      anyone born after the McDLT has no business stomping around acting punk rock

      by chopper on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:47:30 PM PST

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    •  well (1+ / 0-)
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      Puddytat

      just go to their pharmacy sometime. they have oxycodone there. oxycodone! that stuff is nasty. and adderall, which is amphetamines. amphetamines!

      what they need to do is get rid of the pharmacy. then they'd meet my standards.

      anyone born after the McDLT has no business stomping around acting punk rock

      by chopper on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:58:05 PM PST

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    •  Smoker-bashing is quite popular (0+ / 0-)

      and CVS is taking advantage of it.   Fat bashing is also quite popular, too.  What's next that will be made socially acceptable for public scorn?

      When, oh, when will we stop bashing groups that can easily be singled out for scrutiny and ridicule?

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 05:42:05 PM PST

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      •  Well (1+ / 0-)
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        Boris49

        Maybe when they stop polluting our air with their cancer-sticks, stop polluting our streets with their butts, and stop polluting our insurance rolls with their hocked up, charred lungs. Of course, if the did that, they would no longer be in a group to be singled out.

        •  What's next on your list of targets? (0+ / 0-)

          Unhealthy eaters?

          Non-exercisers?

          Non-attractive people?

          People with learning disabilities or disfigurements?

          Or will be back to racism, sexism, ageism, and other blatant bigotry based on putting people in groups to target?

          Of course, if you're concerned about your health insurance costs, why not bring on the hate for sick people?

          What you're rationalizing is plain old hatred, the singling out of an entire group of people.  And that sucks.

          There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

          by Puddytat on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 01:21:52 AM PST

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  •  Can you just pick one? (4+ / 0-)

    Either moralize about fattening food or about fat-shaming.

    And by the way, soda, aside from being a perfectly harmless substance in moderation, is also a good choice for responding to hypoglycemia in Type 1 diabetics (you know, the same ones who use insulin) which makes your second panel particularly silly even when not juxtaposed with the third one.

    "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

    by kyril on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:11:42 PM PST

    •  Yeah, if you are on Insulin then you (1+ / 0-)
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      kyril

      need to have a source of quick sugar handy.

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:13:27 PM PST

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      •  true but it doesn't need to be soda (2+ / 0-)
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        gramofsam1, mungley

        Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
        DEMAND CREATES JOBS!!!
        Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

        by TrueBlueMajority on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:17:20 PM PST

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        •  Could be orange juice, right? n/t (1+ / 0-)
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          TrueBlueMajority
        •  No, it could be juice, (2+ / 0-)
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          nickrud, TrueBlueMajority

          which of course has as many or more calories per serving as soda, isn't meaningfully healthier in the small doses used by diabetics, and is prone to spoiling.

          Or it could be candy, except that I'm sure the diarist would object just as much to candy, and besides, solids can be more difficult to manage than liquids when hypoglycemic.

          Or you could go the full self-flagellation route and carry around a tube of glucose syrup. Blech.

          "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

          by kyril on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:22:56 PM PST

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          •  my mom used to carry some things (1+ / 0-)
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            mungley

            that looked like giant orange Tums

            no soda.  no juice.  no gel.  it was always in her pocketbook, or mine.

            Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
            DEMAND CREATES JOBS!!!
            Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights to talk about grief.

            by TrueBlueMajority on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:36:04 PM PST

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          •  I have found that the glucose tablets (0+ / 0-)

            (ReliOn brand fruit punch flavor) actually taste pretty good.  Though I am not diabetic I sometimes need a quick blood sugar boost and a couple of those work great and are only about 10 calories each.  Though I have not tried it (no need, and one tube of gel costs the same as a large bottle of tablets) I would imagine that the flavored glucose gel also tastes pretty good nowadays.  Of course, soda is cheaper and thus useful for diabetics at home or in the car where you have the room to keep a can or two.

            You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

            by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 07:06:11 PM PST

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    •  Well, since all of those things are one the shelf (2+ / 0-)
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      Just Bob, gramofsam1

      at CVS, why can't BrainMcFadden point out the inconsistencies?
      They really do sell magazines that over emphasize body weight for woman and lots of candy and fattening foods.

      I ain't often right, but I've never been wrong. Seldom turns out the way it does in this song.

      by mungley on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:20:57 PM PST

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      •  And? (2+ / 0-)
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        Miniaussiefan, Alice in Florida

        They're not making a moral statement about them. They're just selling the sorts of things people like to be able to pick up on short notice, with the exception of tobacco products because those actually kill their customers and have no redeeming qualities.

        "Let’s just move on, treat everybody with firmness, fairness, dignity, compassion and respect. Let’s be Marines." - Sgt. Maj Michael Barrett on DADT repeal

        by kyril on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:29:42 PM PST

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        •  We must have read to comic differently. (0+ / 0-)

          I thought he was pointing out the dichotomy between what we say we want as a society and our general behavior.
          BrianMcFadden is generally too conservative or 'Libertarian' for my tastes, (a slant shown in this comic) but I found it to be a valid thing to highlight.

          I ain't often right, but I've never been wrong. Seldom turns out the way it does in this song.

          by mungley on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:54:38 PM PST

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    •  I Tell You, Guys (1+ / 0-)
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      kyril

      I just couldn't rec the cartoon because it denigrates the all-important Candy Sampler. I mean, Jeez, I don't want to have to try to find something at the Quik Mart on the evening of February 13. Pine-scented air freshener cards don't go over well.

      "A famous person once said, 'You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.' But as I once said, "If you don't teach them to read, you can fool them whenever you like." – Max Headroom

      by midnight lurker on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 06:53:10 PM PST

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  •  And then there's the alcohol. (3+ / 0-)
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    mungley, shanikka, Puddytat

    They still sell beer and wine there too...

  •  The fourth frame is ... true... (4+ / 0-)

    Just stopped by CVS to buy my sweetie some Valentine's Day candy before the storm.

  •  You do realize that not having a source (1+ / 0-)
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    kyril

    of quick sugar such as non-diet soda (or glucose gel) handy can be fatal for insulin dependent diabetics, right?

    You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

    by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:14:34 PM PST

  •  Wow... (10+ / 0-)

    Really?  What's the point?  That CVS shouldn't have stopped tobacco sales?  Or that they should turn into a neighborhood Whole Foods?

    “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck

    by RichM on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:16:12 PM PST

  •  Yeah CVS (4+ / 0-)
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    nickrud, kyril, RichM, RightHeaded

    Tobacco is the only product that if used as intended by the manufacturer will kill more than 1/2 the people who use it. I applaud that CVS sacrificed 1.5 billion per year in sales to support tobacco free living.  I've attached a link from a colleague of mine at the Mayo Clinic who wrote a nice piece on this.

  •  Lighten up for Pete's Sake. They don't pretend to (12+ / 0-)

    be a health food store. They did something good, be gracious about it.

    Warren is neither a Clintonesque triangulator nor an Obamaesque conciliator. She is a throwback to a more combative progressive tradition, and her candidacy is a test of whether that approach can still appeal to voters.-J. Toobin "New Yorker"

    by chuck utzman on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:19:22 PM PST

  •  I know CVS is 1/3 trashy food, but the other (1+ / 0-)
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    carolanne

    2/3 is pretty OK.

  •  There are about 18% of smokers in America. (2+ / 0-)
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    RichM, meinoregon

    When CVS loses market share or goes bankrupt, how much you want to bet Obama will get blamed?

    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - John F. Kennedy

    by Paddy999 on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:24:08 PM PST

  •  Thanks for This (2+ / 0-)
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    gramofsam1, Puddytat

    Amazes me how many people are applauding CVS for this when it was honest as the day is long that the motivation was not really giving a damn about health (since as you rightfully point out, there's a lot of Not Health at CVS) but about positioning itself to receive more revenue from contracts with medical providers that it otherwise could receive were it to continue to do so.

    Cigarettes are bad for you. No question about it. But CVS' motives were mercenary, and nothing but, and it was honest about it, so it admittedly chaps my ass to see them rewarded for it.

    Love Africa? Love Opera? Love documentaries? Then you will love the The Tenor from Abidjan

    by shanikka on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:26:52 PM PST

    •  Really? (2+ / 0-)
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      kyril, chopper

      They can get contracts with medical providers that will allow them to continue to provide a level of health care, and that chaps your ass?

      How odd.

      Being the single intellectual in a village of 1,100 souls ain't much fun, especially when 1,099 of those don't think you're all that smart.--Lucy Marsden

      by Miniaussiefan on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:38:55 PM PST

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      •  I Do Have a Problem with It (0+ / 0-)

        CVS already has significantly captive contracts with a number of prescription providers.  It's not going broke today, tomorrow or next week.  This is therefore not about CVS "being able to continue" to provide anything.  This was a move to secure bigger market sharek, aka contracts with hospital providers that otherwise they couldn't do as much business with.

        CVS wants to be big business? Fine? Say that (as, actually CVS effective did in its press about this).  But don't front about "wanting to be more in line with our status as a public health provider." (Which is what they said right after they admitted it was really for the ducets.) CVS couldn't give a damn about public health.  It's a business that sells shit that is bad for folks all the time.

        So yes, that type of disingenousness does chap my hide.

        Love Africa? Love Opera? Love documentaries? Then you will love the The Tenor from Abidjan

        by shanikka on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:58:56 PM PST

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        •  I Hate when I Type too Fast (0+ / 0-)

          And not only make typos, but drop parts of my thoughts.  The sentence above at the end of the 1st paragraph should read:  "This was a move to secure bigger market share, aka contracts with hospital providers that otherwise they couldn't do as much business with, because this move allows them to claim a status as a "clinic" and thus contract to provide satellite health care at pharmacies."

          Love Africa? Love Opera? Love documentaries? Then you will love the The Tenor from Abidjan

          by shanikka on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 04:05:11 PM PST

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          •  I appreciate your explaining. (0+ / 0-)

            I still applaud CVS for its move to drop tobacco products. Yes, they're putting the best possible spin on it, I agree.

            I'm probably older than you - I remember when as children we'd be taken to the local pharmacist for a quick check on a possible ear infection, or strep throat, or minor first aid. So the notion of a pharmacy now promoting itself as a "mini-clinic" (or actually, I think CVS calls it their Minute Clinic) isn't a stretch for me.

            We just have a different take on it.

            Being the single intellectual in a village of 1,100 souls ain't much fun, especially when 1,099 of those don't think you're all that smart.--Lucy Marsden

            by Miniaussiefan on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 04:38:14 PM PST

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  •  Tobacco-Free CVS (3+ / 0-)
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    Yeah, I get that chips and soda and candy are not good but they can be enjoyed by some in moderation. TOBACCO isn't good for anyone, anytime. I think they deserve credit for stopping the sale of tobacco. Heck, trash celebrity magazines can rot your brain - maybe people think they should not stock those as well.

  •  Not to mention all the hard drugs.... (1+ / 0-)
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    Puddytat

    Opiates, stimulants, benzos, etc...

    I don't get it. People still smoke. What exactly is the purpose of stopping tobacco sales? Will that stop anyone from smoking? Nah, it's just a minor inconvenience.

  •  When I show "Apollo 13" (1+ / 0-)
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    Puddytat

    in class I always pause at the point when Jim Lovell tells a tour group that NASA has a computer the size of a building that can store a million pieces of information.

    I ask students to take out their flash drives and tell how many gigabytes they will hold.

    But I've started to wonder how it was that the U.S. could land astronauts on the moon with a computer the size of a building that could store only megabytes of data and today when every kid has a flash drive that can hold gigbytes of data what do we use all that technology for? Flappy birds and selfies.

    I think it's the cigs.  Everybody smoked back then. When was tobacco introduced in Europe? 16th century. When was the height of the Renaissance? 16th century.  Coincidence?  I think not.

    Light is seen through a small hole.

    by houyhnhnm on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:53:27 PM PST

  •  Insulin aisle? (0+ / 0-)

    Where is the insulin aisle? I usually get mine from the pharmacy at $45 a pop.

  •  I LOATHE the cartoon (3+ / 0-)
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    meinoregon, Val, chuck utzman

    It's in the same celebration of ignorance as those who say to vegetarians - Do you own a leather belt? Do you Wear Leather shoes?

    Or those who posit an environmentalist shouldn't be able to fly to an environmental conference but should row themselves across the ocean because anything less is UNBEARABLE HYPOCRISY!!!! Oh noes!!!!

    Because everything has to be all-in, 100 percent with no nuances or gradations of behavior or you are an insufferable hypocrite and no one can listen to you or think that any single small step in a worthwhile direction is worth any consideration or value.

    “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

    by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 04:09:25 PM PST

    •  Or those who pooh-pooh global warming (1+ / 0-)
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      Val

      because "Al Gore is fat" or something.

      It's better to thank people for taking a positive step than it is to blast them for not going farther.

      There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

      by Cali Scribe on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 04:22:28 PM PST

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  •  Excellent commentary (1+ / 0-)
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    Puddytat

    My right wing neighbor were just talking about this very thing.  I'll send him the link.

    "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness," Allen Ginsberg

    by Hermenutic on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 04:09:49 PM PST

  •  We're bashing CVS? Not "pure" enough? (1+ / 0-)
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    chuck utzman

    So what are we doing here?  They take tobacco products out of their stores so we roast them on the front page?

    We should be giving CVS a pat on the back for this.  I quit tobacco and I'm glad to see the pharmacy I use do the same.  This strip is counter productive.  

  •  Except ... (2+ / 0-)
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    Val, chuck utzman

    None of these will kill you if you use them according to the instructions, and none of these are addictive the way nicotine is.

    I really don't understand the rush to condemn CVS for doing something good.

  •  Gotta start somewhere ... (0+ / 0-)

    CVS is taking a hit financially for its choice, and I applaud them for it. They are hoping that people move their prescriptions over to their pharmacy as a way of making up the revenue, and we are doing just that.

    If enough of us did that and then organized by asking them to sell less soda and more water or whatever, they'd probably listen.

    One step at a time, people!

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