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Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN)
Sen. Bob Corker's (R-TN) threats against jobs may or may not have changed the outcome of a union election at a Tennessee Volkswagen plant, in which the UAW lost a narrow victory. We'll probably never know exactly how many workers decided to vote against unionizing after the Republican senator claimed that if they voted no, Volkswagen would quickly expand production at the plant. But Corker is certainly pleased with himself:
Corker, who had originally announced he would refrain from making public comments during the election, changed course last week after he said the union tried to use his silence to chastise other critics. Corker said after the vote that he was happy he joined the fray.

“I have no idea what effect we may or may not have had,” Corker said. “But I think I would have forever felt tremendous remorse if … I had not re-engaged and made sure that people understand other arguments that needed to be put forth.”

"Other arguments that needed to be put forth" equaling Corker's assertions, plus other politicians' similar threats. In fact:
Corker said the day after the vote that he and other state officials planned to restart discussions with Volkswagen officials this week about state subsidies for expanded production in Chattanooga.
Those are subsidies that were explicitly threatened if workers had voted to unionize. There were, of course, other factors in the loss. As Erik Loomis points out "There were almost certainly several hundred no votes from the beginning" in a workforce with a lot of white southerners. Douglas Williams and pseudonymous organizer Cato Uticensis also argue that the UAW made significant organizing errors.

Whatever the combination of causes leading to the 712 to 626 loss, though, Tennessee Republicans made clear that their opposition to having a significant workplace organized is strong enough to threaten jobs over. Which makes total sense: Republicans want workers weak and scared. Defeating unions and keeping jobs scarce both contribute to that goal.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 09:39 AM PST.

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  •  Will VW make a deal with the devil? (7+ / 0-)

    Stay tuned...

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 09:44:20 AM PST

  •  Another "issue"... (8+ / 0-) that VW workers at Chattanooga are already paid the same as UAW-represented workers in the north.

    With that reality, why would they bother to unionize? What would their dues buy them exactly?

    I oppose the implication that these workers are stupid or "white southerners" and are therefore making irrational choices. The workers appear to have understood their options pretty well.

    The workers don't have a duty to all other workers everywhere and certainly not to the UAW. They have a duty to get themselves the best deal possible.

    (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
    Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

    by Sparhawk on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 09:53:20 AM PST

    •  And... amen (8+ / 0-)

      That is my understanding as well. Their pay and benefits are on par with union shops. Very little to gain for these workers. My local Nissan plant is another matter. Union vote failed there multiple times and they ARE paid less than the prevailing auto industry wage. That one is a little harder to explain.

    •  If by getting paid the same you mean (11+ / 0-)

      the shit wages with crappy benefits they had to agree to in order to save the auto companies, then yeah I guess they had no incentive whatsoever to join a union.

      Unfortunately this wasn't about having union representation, but rather the ability to establish a works council.  A works council would allow the workers at the plant to elect representatives to help establish plant policies on hours, vacations, benefits and so on.  Basically it would give the workers more say in how the plant operated.  German companies have a very active worker participation in company operations and it's been shown to be successful.  Unfortunately no such thing exists in the US since the Wagner Act outlawed company unions and in order to have one employees have to vote to have outside union representation first.  There are ways around it, for example the plant can create their own union independent of the UAW, and get around it that way.  But this was less about unionizing the plant and more about VW's desire to have a works council like they do in every other plant.  

      The reality is that UAW dropped the ball big time.  The good thing is that maybe people will begin to realize that the UAW has served it's purpose and will begin to develop their own unions independent of the UAW.  More local community based unions.  For the UAW to blow this in light of the fact that VW wanted it, shows they outlived their usefulness.

      What remains to be seen is how the workers proceed from here.  VW still wants a works council.  So if the workers really are interested then they will take it upon themselves to form their own union and go that route.  

      It is ironic though that here we have a company that wants these works councils and is willing to give the workers more say and the workers choose not to.  Even more ironic is that libertarians are all gaga over the outcome.  If market forces were such that pay and benefits were on par with what the market would bear, why would a company elect to give workers more say in their pay and benefits?  It would suggest that in fact the pay and benefits could go up and not affect the overall profitability of the company.  The fact that libertarians are opposed to this shows how bankrupt your ideology really is and that it really is all about increasing the powers of the corporations over the workers.  You guys don't give a flying fuck about all the invisible hand and market forces bullshit you spout incessantly about.  

      This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

      by DisNoir36 on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 10:35:35 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  But what the TN Republicans did opens the door (8+ / 0-)

      for the union to file for a Gissel order.

      Which would negate the election and force VW to negotiate with the union anyway.

      "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

      by zenbassoon on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 01:04:07 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  They would get a defined benefit pension (2+ / 0-)
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      jbsoul, Amber6541

      No one has ever retired solely on a 401(k). And with conservatives of both parties trying to (reform) Social Security, who knows if Social Security will be there when workers in their 20s. 30s or 40s go to retire?

      Where are all the jobs, Boehner?

      by Dirtandiron on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 01:44:56 PM PST

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    •  Why? Ever think about a pension and some benefits (12+ / 0-)

      a Union member gets when they retire?  My Mom was treated great by her Union after she retired.  It certainly helped her out with the SS she was getting each month and got her through the stretch for money to afford health insurance till she reached the age where she could be eligible Medicare as she did retire at 62.  

      I guess you never grew up in a Union household to know the real details about just what unions do, and have done over the years for even you.

      Do you even know what Unions have accomplished to make your work life/environment better?  How about your weekends off and a 40 hour work week to name a but couple if you are an hourly employee?  

      Thank a Union Member when you see one next time.

      "It's only the giving, that makes what you are." - Ian Anderson

      by LamontCranston on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 04:52:16 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

    •  UAW (7+ / 0-)

      Do you realize what a dumb statement this is. The UAW sets the wage and has a contract with the employer. The workers in Tennessee have no protection and can be canned at any time. This is merely political extortion by a red neck cracker Senator. The right to eventually work for lower wages is upheld. No wonder you morons lost the civil war.

    •  but but but but (1+ / 0-)
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      They might get taken advantage of sometime in the future.

    •  Because of what COULD happen (2+ / 0-)
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      Dirtandiron, HM2Viking

      You don't only bring in a union because of your current status.

      You bring it in as an investment in the future.

      That's how you get the best deal possible today - and tomorrow.

      That's just basic business practice - planning for tomorrow.

      These workers didn't do that.

      They were stupid - and cowards. They screwed themselves.

      Those are two hallmarks of conservative southern white culture - cowardice and stupidity.

      •  And you wonder why Tennessee never seems to go... (2+ / 0-)
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        nextstep, Charles Hall

        With "their betters" calling them stupid cowards, why vote for Dems again?

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 06:43:45 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  I don't wonder at all (0+ / 0-)

          The conservative southern whites have been stupid cowards for over one hundred years.

          Are you going to deny that?

          Let's hear it. Let's hear you tell me about the brave and smart southern conservative whites.


          Or maybe you'll tell me how we can reason with those idiots.

          Screw that. It's time to just roll over them.

          BTW - you never responded to my basic point -you don't bring in a union just for an immediate raise. It's a basic part of business called planning for the future.

      •  I saw some of these guys on MSNBC tonite (2+ / 0-)
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        Dirtandiron, Capt Crunch

        The workers looked like slaves at an auction. They accused Corker of intimidation as they considered their next employer. It was sad and scary and all too common. Go to Walmart.They have great deals on submission.

        “He talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans.” James Carville

        by Mokislab on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 06:50:49 PM PST

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    •  If they make the same wage.... (4+ / 0-)

      Its only because the non-union plants in the south have dragged down the wage scale.

      You don't get through this world not beholden to someone. These "libertarian" arguments are what the corporations are counting on to divide the working class.  

      Their "best interest" would now be to let the Republicans commit  to give VW their subsidies, use the year long cooling off period to rebuild the organizing drive, then hold another union vote and stick it to Corker and the Republicans.

      Of course, the real best interest would be not to allow states to compete on subsidies to corporations. Guess where that money comes from?

      For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

      by Grey Fedora on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 06:21:49 PM PST

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      •  Grey - there is no way to prohibit states from (0+ / 0-)

        offering subsidies to companies for locating or expanding facilities in their state. The federal government has no jurisdiction to interfere.

        "let's talk about that"

        by VClib on Tue Feb 18, 2014 at 07:12:14 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  The federal income tax could be changed, so (0+ / 0-)

          state income, real estate and sales tax were no longer deductable for residents of a state that offers these tax credits to business.

          Or the ever popular, loss of federal transportation funds can work.

          The most important way to protect the environment is not to have more than one child.

          by nextstep on Tue Feb 18, 2014 at 07:48:17 AM PST

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    •  you said (1+ / 0-)
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      With that reality, why would they bother to unionize? What would their dues buy them exactly?
      Big oil raises prices every time a mosquito farts in Yemen. What happens when Hans and Frans say that due to a mosquito farting in Detroit we must lower wages and cut benefits. That's what their union dues by them.

      “He talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans.” James Carville

      by Mokislab on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 06:35:31 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  If union salaries fall in Detroit... (0+ / 0-) can only be because the UAW was unable or unwilling to prevent it. If they are unable to stop it in Michigan they will be unable to stop it in Tennessee.

        How would allying with such an organization help a group of workers?

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 06:41:28 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  My understanding of union wages (2+ / 0-)

          is they are enacted for a given, agreed upon time period .At least workers would have the benefit of negotiating after the mosquito fartsmell wears off.
          I hope I'm not getting too technical here.

          “He talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans.” James Carville

          by Mokislab on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 06:55:54 PM PST

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    •  A union represents more than just wages (2+ / 0-)
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      HM2Viking, NoMoreLies

      A union keeps the workplace safe.

      See Toyota and its subsidiaries in Kentucky taking people off the street with no experience and turning them loose on forklifts with 100k pounds and loads swinging out of control.

      Or the lost fingers and severe injuries. Unreported because it's just a "temp."

      Or the sweltering heat inside the steel manufacturer... such that when the blackened soiled men leave the workplace at night they pray for a better job in a coal mine.

      Or the deaths. Again.. unreported. Because it's just a temp.

      One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. --Carl Jung

      by bronte17 on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 07:49:13 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Link or it didn't happen (0+ / 0-)

        I find it extremely difficult to believe that there are a lot (or frankly any) unreported injuries at any Toyota plant, temps or otherwise.

        And unreported deaths, are you fucking kidding? Link or it didn't happen.

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 08:32:32 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  Tough shit Sparhawk (0+ / 0-)

          I'm here in the belly of the beast. And know people who worked there.

          Dig around yourself in the government ratholes and see if they even bothered to report it.

          One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious. --Carl Jung

          by bronte17 on Tue Feb 18, 2014 at 06:46:23 AM PST

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    •  Think it through (2+ / 0-)
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      HM2Viking, Kentucky DeanDemocrat

      I'm sorry but I have to be blunt in my response. That is an ignorant, ill conceived position to take. You are in effect, advocating that the Southern workers get the benefits of the Union shops efforts for free so their is no need to contribute to the union's strength by joining their ranks. I'll overlook the overt selfishness of that position and point out the obvious problem.

      Staying outside the union fold, weakens the unions negotiating power going forward, therefore it undermines the unions ability to negotiate the benefits that the non-union shops enjoy for free. In the end, both union and non-union shops alike will work for less and only management will benefit.

      United we stand...

      •  How do you know there's any benefit at all (0+ / 0-)

        The wage rates VW is paying might be the wages they must pay to get qualified help. Seems like a big assumption that union rates in Michigan are going to drive nonunion labor rates in Tennessee.

        (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
        Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

        by Sparhawk on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 08:36:30 PM PST

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  •  Kinda "Big Government-y" to be subsidizing (8+ / 0-)

    a successful, profitable corporation with Tennessee taxpayer dollars

  •  If "Right-to-work" (6+ / 0-)

    Is such a great economic engine, why should the taxpayers subsidize trans-national corporations or any corporation? Why isn't "right-to-work" enough of an incentive?

  •  We need some (4+ / 0-)

    Norma Rae types in our country, particularly in the south.

    We also need more progressives with a knowledge of labor history, and less libertarians who think they can go it alone and then use all the things communities and union workers provide.

    “We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.” Louis D. Brandeis

    by Jjc2006 on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 05:34:34 PM PST

  •  VW should move its plant to Detroit (7+ / 0-)

    and the let RWNJ explain to the workers why a major corporation might prefer a smart, unionized workforce over a stupid, underpaid one.

    English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

    by Youffraita on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 05:38:40 PM PST

  •  Bob Corker and Chris Christie (6+ / 0-)

    In New Jersey, Governor Chris Christie's administration is accused of threatening to withhold hurricane Sandy aid to certain communities if they did not permit certain projects to be green lighted.  This political blackmail is being looked at as a potential criminal case.  So how is it any different that Senator  Bob Corker threatened to not extend subsidies to Volkswagen unless the employees voted to not unionize.  Isn't this very similar to the New Jersey situation?

  •  Republicans claim to hate government interference (2+ / 0-)
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    freesia, Mokislab

    But Corker had no reservations about sticking his brown nose into VW's business.

    Where are all the jobs, Boehner?

    by Dirtandiron on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 05:52:55 PM PST

  •  Cocker's fear is nothing more then losing (1+ / 0-)
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    high paying job.

  •  mgt kickbacks for union-busting /nt (1+ / 0-)
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    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

    by annieli on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 06:05:43 PM PST

  •  This is bullying plain and simple (2+ / 0-)
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    BelgianBastard, Amber6541

    No wait , I mean Fascism, I mean extortion, I mean bribery, I mean collusion, I mean corruption. Hell I don't know what i mean, but it's bad.

    “He talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans.” James Carville

    by Mokislab on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 06:06:13 PM PST

  •  Hate to say it (4+ / 0-)

    I wish VW would walk on Tennessee for interfering with their business. The workers who lose their jobs could mow Corker's lawn or something.
    First he manipulates the labor market, then he bribes the manufacturer for undermining morale of the employees. This is some sick shit.It's Jeffry Dahmer evil.

    “He talks a lot and he's not very bright. And that's a combination I like in Republicans.” James Carville

    by Mokislab on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 06:22:23 PM PST

  •  "white" Really? (0+ / 0-)

    What does race have to do with this?

    And do not forget that the president publicly supported the union effort. I'm  surprised his blessing did not counter Corker.

  •  What Am I Missing? Stop Blaming The GOP... (0+ / 0-)

    ...of course they suck. Of course they represent the bosses. We all know this, it's not news.

    The workers could have had a union, all they had to do was to vote for it. How easy would that have been? But they pissed it away; they voted against their own interests and they are all going to get what half of them deserve.  

  •  Only 44 votes.......... (2+ / 0-)
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    Dirtandiron, Amber6541

    or less than 5% of those voting made the difference. When can the workers call for another election?  Maybe after the expansion is complete so the GOPs threats no longer hold water.

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation--HDT

    by cazcee on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 06:57:03 PM PST

  •  This is Easy. (1+ / 0-)
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    Kentucky DeanDemocrat

    1) Wait for the subsidies

    2) Call another election

    3) UNIONIZE.

  •  Why would they need state subsidies? (2+ / 0-)
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    Kentucky DeanDemocrat, Amber6541

    Free markets something something government picking winners and losers....

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 07:07:14 PM PST

  •  Since when does what Corker did, not be (2+ / 0-)
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    Paddy999, Amber6541

    described as bribery for one, and blackmail for the other?

    The man is disgusting, whatever the label.

    Personally, if there were not so many lives impacted, it would probably be a good thing for all concerned if VW waltzed right out of Tennessee.  

    No politician/s should ever be allowed to interfere with business in this manner and get away with it.

    It should send a chill down the spine of any corporation interested in keeping politics out of their business.

  •  So -- Nobody interested in the Williams/Uticensis (1+ / 0-)
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    piece on significant organizing errors by the UAW?

    Are you really content to believe that the problem is just dumb shit southerners who don't know what's good for them? Dumb shit gun-loving southerners who are too afraid to stand up to "the man"?

    If that's really the problem, it's just stupid for the UAW or any other union to waste resources trying to organize in the south, don't you think?

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 07:09:18 PM PST

    •  I'd use the term "compliant" (1+ / 0-)
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      Kentucky DeanDemocrat

      rather than "dumb".

      I thought the whole reason for companies to relocate to the South was lax regulations and a workforce that's willing to do pretty much anything you want for $10/hour?

      I assume they're not going there for the sunny weather.

      It's not a bug it's a feature.

      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 07:19:35 PM PST

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      •  The south had/has several advantages. (1+ / 0-)
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        Charles Hall

        One is generally lower wages, land costs, cost of doing just about everything.  Labor laws are certainly more favorable to employers in the south.

        Southern workers are a lot like northern workers who say y'all.  Hell, in the old days -- including the organizing days of the UAW, more than a few of those northern workers were southern workers who traveled north for a better life.  

        The close vote at VW -- by all accounts, one of the better employers -- indicates that there is fertile ground to be found in southern factories.

        Break down and read the Williams/Uticensis piece.  If you're going to organize in the south, it helps to know what you're doing.

        Here's a question for you:  Did you know that the UAW signed a neutrality agreement with VW in which they agreed not to make visits to workers' homes?  That's a very powerful organizing tool surrendered before the action really even got started.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Tue Feb 18, 2014 at 05:44:43 AM PST

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  •  712 sheep in Tennessee (1+ / 0-)
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    Kentucky DeanDemocrat

    ...being cowed by Bob "Socialist!" Corker...King of the Big Gubmint Cheese subsidies to corporations.

    "Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" - General Jack D. Ripper

    by wilder5121 on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 07:21:21 PM PST

  •  The South, God Love 'Em..... (0+ / 0-)

    The biggest conglomeration of bimbos live in the south.  They don't believe in unions.  They don't believe in global warming.
    So, apparently all those fierce storms they've been experiencing in the last two weeks are just the "hand of God" as one of their idiots governors said.

    Oklahoma has had 103 earthquakes in the last 4 days.  Apparently they don't believe in the consequences of fracking either. thing they do believe in apparently is the health benefits of continuing to feed their kids grits, hush puppies, chicken fried steak & deep fried everything else.  And, don't let that Michelle Obama tell you otherwise.

    Oh, they like confederate flags flapping from their broken down doublewides too.   The lot of them deserve what they get.  

  •  Corporate Welfare (0+ / 0-)

    Of course these GOP Representatives will have the tax payers (working poor/middle class) subsidize the executives at Volkswagen and the tax payers will also subsidize any ancillary workers in related industries not making enough to pass federal poverty standards (of course they keep lowering that bar too). Why would they help the workers get better bargaining power, earn more money and receive better benefits? Get used to living out of your car. Just don't plan on doing it in a Volkswagen execs or GOP Representatives neighborhood.

  •  Really (3+ / 0-)
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    NoMoreLies, VClib, Amber6541

    My grandfather was a big republican. Also an organizer for the Textile Workers of America back in the 30's and 40's.

    He never really felt being a republican and a union member was contradictory.

    Glad he died before Reagan broke the air traffic controllers and the GOP was taken over by the Dixie crats.  He was nearly killed several times down south organizing and it he would roll over in his grave to see the GOP hating on unions but subsiding companies and their employees low wages.

  •  Rachel nails the point we keep missing..... (1+ / 0-)
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    ....this was only incidentally about muscling workers -- it was about going after one of the few remaining reliable donors to Democrats: Unions. Had a union got a foothold, it would have been not only good for workers BUT FOR DEMOCRATS.

    If you hate government, don't run for office in that government.

    by Bensdad on Mon Feb 17, 2014 at 09:14:33 PM PST

  •  What I Expected (0+ / 0-)

    You can't lose a victory you never had. Corker had no effect on the union vote. Even if he had never said a word this would have happened because Tennessee is a Right to Work state and all of the blue collar Bubbas and Bubbettes follow the Tea Party line. They have been anti-union for decades. These people regularly vote against their own interest because they truly believe that the union wants to come in and make them pay dues and rob them of their freedoms (force them to walk off the job for strikes, etc). You can't fix stupid. Let these clowns wallow in it.

  •  VW could just giver them a worker council if they (0+ / 0-)

    want to and have it work just like it does in Germany. They just dont want to because why the fuck even bother if the hillbillies are willing to do as told?

    Hell, if I were VW i'd use this vote as a perfect opportunity to cut wages and benefits.

  •  To win elections in the South, unions would have (2+ / 0-)
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    VClib, Charles Hall

    to become more popular with working Southern people.

    When pro union people insult the South and Southerners, it hurts chances for unions in the South.

  •  Corker lied (0+ / 0-)

    Have there been any calls for his impeachment?

  •  It's my understanding... (0+ / 0-)

    The UAW is considering an investigation and possible criminal action against Tennessee Senator Bob Corker for threatening jobs and saying that Volkswagen wouldn't get any state subsidies if plant employees voted to join the union. Corker's involvement in this affair seems to be a conflict of interest at best, illegal at worst.

    Here's something I will NEVER understand... Due to misinformation, ignorance and general hatred of liberal causes, the majority of white southernors who work for Volkswagen voted against unionizing, even knowing that joining the UAW would actually HELP them. This is akin to cutting off their noses to spite their stupid faces.

  •  The timing here is VERY suspicious. (0+ / 0-)

    Here's what I find kinda funny.  Corker initially was not going to comment on the unionization vote. Then, after the Senator from Saskatchewan forced his hand on the debt ceiling vote, he suddenly "had to re-engage."

    Seems to me that because he was forced into a vote to prevent default, he just HAD to do SOMETHING to appease the "base", and this was just the most convenient issue available when he needed one.

    OF COURSE the New Right is wrong - but that doesn't make WRONG the new RIGHT!

    by mstaggerlee on Thu Feb 20, 2014 at 02:14:49 PM PST

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