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The keystone pipeline; traversing six states, is NOT in the national interest of the United States, nor in the best interests of Canada either.

I have been researching and documenting the tar sands operation for over two years, since I first heard about it.

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Tar Sands is an absolute horror! Besides being a huge contributor to global warming (three times the global warming pollution of conventional crude oil production).

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Alberta-Canada; is, bounded by the provinces of British Columbia to the west and Saskatchewan to the east, the Northwest Territories to the north, and the US state of Montana to the south.

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Originally posted to rebel ga on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 06:20 PM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (17+ / 0-)

    Brought To You By That Crazed Sociologist/Media Fanatic rebel ga Be The Change You Want To See In The World! Gandhi

    by rebel ga on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 04:30:16 PM PST

  •  Sadly, that crud is already coming south... (5+ / 0-)

    ...in older pipelines not designed anywhere near being able to really handle dilbit, and we've seen what they eventually do: leak.

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 05:00:40 PM PST

    •  That's EXACTLY (5+ / 0-)

      what happened in Mayflower, Arkansas. Dilbit in a decades-old pipeline, which now may never be restarted. Too late for the people of Mayflower, of course. No effin excuse for doing for-profit experiments on the dime of the American people, who also suffer the risk.

      Since $Big/Dirty own the government, the only solution is just no pipelines until they are p.r.o.v.e.n. safe in advance.

      "Let each unique song be sung and the spell of differentiation be broken" - Winter Rabbit

      by cotterperson on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 05:26:19 PM PST

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    •  Actually, Keystone 1 already brings dilbit (3+ / 0-)
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      to midwestern refineries. It was specifically designed for this type of crude oil product. It has leaked hundreds of times, they are still trying to clean up a large spill into the Kalamazoo River from 2010. It's much harder to clean up the slurry of tar sands bitumen and chemicals than normal crude because bitumen sinks in water unlike oil.

      Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

      by RMForbes on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 06:13:55 PM PST

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    •  Old pipelines can handle dilbit (1+ / 0-)
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      the problem is they are old pipeline which failed due to external corrosion. This is a common factor with the Arkansas and Kalamazoo spill, the pipes simply split open.

      It seems we have two options, reduce demand so we can start shutting down these old pipelines or built new ones.

      There was talk about reversing the Capline system which run from Chicago to the New Orleans area, that is another line built in the 1950s. I would prefer the XL line instead.

  •  Wish we could send some squirrels to DC, but the (1+ / 0-)
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    hogs would just eat 'em.
    We need to find a way to make some more men like your father.    

    Rivers are horses and kayaks are their saddles

    by River Rover on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 05:05:03 PM PST

  •  ♥Thanks For All The Rec's And Tips Everyone♥ (1+ / 0-)
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    Brought To You By That Crazed Sociologist/Media Fanatic rebel ga Be The Change You Want To See In The World! Gandhi

    by rebel ga on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 08:13:08 PM PST

  •  NYC Fossil fuel divestment Open House 2/26 7PM (2+ / 0-)
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    350NYC Presents
    Fossil Free NYC: A Divestment Open House

    Featuring several panelists including Annie McShiras from Responsible Endowments Coalition, Lisa DiCaprio from the Sierra Club Atlantic Chapter, Steve Knight from GreenFaith, the members of the Fossil Free NYC Campaign, and more.

    Wednesday, February 26th  ●  7 – 9 p.m.
    Hosted by New York Society for Ethical Culture  ● 2 W. 64th Street ● Social Hall
    Co-sponsored by Responsible Endowments Coalition, GreenFaith, and the NYC Grassroots Alliance

    The focus is on NYC divestment, but this is a national/international campaign. (Rescheduled from Feb 5)

    To learn more

    There's no such thing as a free market!

    by Albanius on Sat Feb 22, 2014 at 08:17:34 PM PST

  •  I don't see what the problem is (2+ / 0-)
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    There is inadequate pipeline capacity to get natural gas east of the Hudson River. What are those of us who heat our house with gas supposed to do, switch to coal? For that matter, most electricity here is produced from natural gas today. Switching back to coal will literally be deadly!

  •  Fuel oil or natural gas (1+ / 0-)
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    New York is the largest consumer of fuel oil in the country, we burn 2.5 million gallons every day. It is dirty and expensive with prices around $3.80/gallon. And New York is switching to low sulfur diesel which is even more expensive.

    Some of my relatives in Long Island use electric space heaters as they cannot afford fuel oil during the attack of the polar vortex this winter.

    And now you want to cut off a major supply of natural gas?

    Only a viable alternative to heat our homes will reduce natural gas demand and currently there is none. Concerning electric heat, it is far more efficient to burn natural gas directly in our homes than in a turbine generating electric.

    And shutting off natural gas supplies with another "polar vortex' bearing down on us is simply cruel.

    •  Running this pipeline through, (0+ / 0-)

      densely populated areas is cruel!

      This is no ordinary gas pipeline, and spectra has a history of accidents and poor safety standards, as I stated in this diary.

      now you want to cut off a major supply of natural gas?
      Not just me, everyone in Jersey City, Hoboken, and Manhattan's West Village, want to stop this pipeline. You would too, if it ran past your home or apt.

      It's easy to sit back, far away from the problem and make judgements.

      Brought To You By That Crazed Sociologist/Media Fanatic rebel ga Be The Change You Want To See In The World! Gandhi

      by rebel ga on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 07:55:35 AM PST

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      •  Nothing new about natural gas (0+ / 0-)

        Every house I have lived in for the past 55 years has had natural gas and New York City has pipelines running under the city for decades. I would be more concerned with the old lines still in operation.

        Converting from fuel oil to natural gas is in the best interest of the NYC area. Would you prefer fuel oil from tar sand oil? New Jersey is already receiving Bakken oil via rail, dilbit could be next. Certainly the demand supports send tanker cars to your area.

        I live in western NY and any thoughts of cutting off the supply of natural gas scares the hell out of me, I have no other viable alternative. I could not afford to heat my home with electric, it could be that time to move south event for us.

  •  Your "Keystone XL Facts" is outdated. (0+ / 0-)

    Not trying to be for or against, just an issue with credibility.

    The entire section on gas prices is no longer valid. The southern section of the XL is completed and Enbridge is building the Flanagan South Pipeline which starts south of Chicago.

    These pipeline can ship 1.2 million bpd to the gulf thru Cushiing, OK, the oil glut is being eliminated now.

    The northern XL line will increase supplies in the Midwest, the XL and first Keystone line end in Steele City, NE. You have ~1.4 million bpd coming in while only 600K can head south from Steel City. The rest will go the the Midwest refineries which should help the farmers.

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