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I've been writing about the coming famine for a while.

It will happen because of the
worldwide shortage
of diesel fuel.

More below the fold.

The bare bones of the apocalypse:

Millions of Americans,
maybe ninety percent of Americans,
will die,
sometime around the year

I don't know,
of course,
how many will actually starve,
and how many will be killed
by other Americans,
fighting over food,
and land and water
and livestock,
and other means of producing food.

I dwell on America,
and Americans,
since I've never been outside the USA,
and I don't feel comfortable
saying what will happen
in other countries.

I plan to build a chicken coop,
about a year from now,
and raise a few chickens,
and a few ducks,
so our family can eat the eggs.

Sometime between now,
and the apocalypse,
folks will need to find ways
to feed their own livestock,

A family will need
a few acres of land,
I think,
to grow the crops
that make chicken feed,
and maybe a greenhouse,
to cultivate bugs
to feed the chickens and ducks
in the winter.

Plus a vegetable garden,
of course,
and lots of canning jars.

In the southern half
of America,
there are 7 million feral hogs,
so hunting feral hogs
may be an important source of food
for many of those who survive the famine.

I was born in 1955,
so I will likely be dead,
from cancer or something,
before the famine hits.

If I'm still alive,
I have a family
who will do what they can
to keep me well fed.

I've been cooking for them,
feeding them,
maybe they'll feed me,
when I need their help.

If you don't know
the cause of the famine:

America now feeds her people
using diesel fuel,
combines (harvesting machines)
and more trucks,
to produce and transport
nearly all our food,
from the farm fields
to the supermarket shelves.

There is a worldwide shortage
of diesel fuel.


It started in 2004.

Compressed natural gas
will work well,
but the distribution infrastructure
is not yet in place:
CNG filling stations map

Other means of powering
and trains,
such as
and nuclear,
will require us to build
fleets of different machines.

I predict
folks will starve
before any big changes are made.

Most folks think
will fix things,
will never let such a famine
destroy America.

The problem is,
there is no "they."

We are "they."

Look in the mirror.

There's a possible hero,
to save someone,
or at least try.

That's why I'm writing about this,
and will keep on writing
about this.

Build a chicken coop.

Thanks for reading.

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  •  While my vision is not so apocalyptic (10+ / 0-)

    I too share your concerns.

    Which is why my new build house is energy efficient, and we invested in all electric heat pump technology for our home heating. ( Electricity is the only energy system which is not finite limited by raw material resource as long as the sun shines, the wind blows and the tides change.)

    This why I have switched from gas engined cars to diesel, which give me 30% more miles per gallon.

    We can all make some steps towards slowing the process, and the longer we can do this, the better the chances of avoiding the apocalypse.

    The capital cost of 1 watt/hour solar pv is 1% of the cost in 1977.

    When the oil is gone, we will create synthetic gasoline (or hydrogen) by cracking water into H2 and O2, but this will only happen when renewable energy is so cheap, and oil/gas is so expensive that it become economically viable.

    I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then.

    by peterfallow on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 04:30:09 AM PST

  •  Thank you for writing. (8+ / 0-)

    I've been considering building a chicken coop for some time (or, rather, contracting my husband to do it). Wouldn't you know, after 25 years, the fox population is at full strength. Love the foxes, but will have to plan for this. We have zillions of wild duck, geese, deer, etc. which probably makes us a prime target for those who believe guns make them privileged to take what they want.

    Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

    by Smoh on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 04:47:58 AM PST

    •  It is possible to make a coop (8+ / 0-)

      predator proof and suitable for chicken health and ease of cleaning, but unfortunately for the chickens, far too many keepers don't do their homework. Half of the people who showed up at the first meeting of a local poultry group had already lost part or all of their flocks to one of the many critters that like to prey on chickens.

      The culprit? Chicken wire. You'd think that something called "chicken wire" is what you're supposed to use when you're building a coop or pen for chickens, right?  You would, but you'd be wrong. I like to call it "chicken death wire."

      My advice would be to head on over to and read the threads there about coop construction.  Siting the coop and run are also important things to consider. It took me three tries to get mine in the right place: shadiest part of our yard, because we get very hot summers (most chickens actually handle cold much better than they can handle heat) and good drainage in wet weather.

      Fresh eggs are great, and chickens are wonderful pets, too. They're fun to watch, and you can train them to do tricks, just like a dog.

      •  I like chickens. (7+ / 0-)

        My sister's husband built the coolest coop - an A-frame on wheels that allows them to move it and fertilize multiple parts of the lawn. Theirs run free except at night. I couldn't do that here what with foxes, hawks, weasels, etc. Looking at Rhode Island reds.

        Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

        by Smoh on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 10:04:29 AM PST

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        •  I think he used hardware cloth. (5+ / 0-)

          Cats are better than therapy, and I'm a therapist.

          by Smoh on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 10:05:13 AM PST

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          •  I just built my coop and got my first 'flock' (7+ / 0-)

            of chickens.  I built it to be movable, but it's up off the ground on 'legs', completely enclosed in hardware cloth.  The chickens run free during the day, then at night they roost up in the coop and their droppings (for the most part) can fall through the hardware cloth "floor."  Then I can move it regularly to spread the fertilizer around.

            I built it as securely as I could since I'm in a rural area with coyotes, racoons, dogs, etc.

            I've never been around chickens until now, but they're friendly, funny, interesting animals.  And I love the pastured eggs!

            "It was clear that any research would be in the nature of a post mortem." - Rachel Carson

            by todamo13 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 11:35:15 AM PST

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            •  Free ranging will eventually cost (4+ / 0-)

              some lives. But many people feel the benefits outweigh that risk.

              Do be careful with a hardware cloth floor that the openings between the wires aren't large enough so that toes/feet can hang down and get bitten off by a predator.

              •  Thanks for the heads up... (2+ / 0-)
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                The floor is about 3 feet off the ground, but the roosts are up in the 'attic,' about 3 ft up from the floor.  Once they come in for the night, they fly up to the roosts and stay there, so they are no where near the floor.

                Unfortunately they usually have a loud squawking fight over the roosting spaces.  I'm not sure what their criteria is for the most desirable roost, though.  They're all at about the same height...

                "It was clear that any research would be in the nature of a post mortem." - Rachel Carson

                by todamo13 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 03:27:00 PM PST

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                •  If one roost is higher (2+ / 0-)
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                  they'll all want that one. Even with a single height there will be some squabbling over position. My girls love to sit next to a wall, so I put boards on top of the shelf supports that hold up my roost, enough so that every chicken can have one if she wants.  And they all pick those spots to roost, usually each one in the same place every night.

                  Sometimes when approached by a predator, chickens will start flying around wildly and come down from someplace safe. Raccoons will often work together to scare a chicken into the corner of a pen, for example, reach in and grab it, and pull pieces out through the wire. Gruesome.

                  I use plastic boot trays under my roost. Every morning, I just take down the trays and bring them over the composter to dump/scrape out the contents. Then I hose them down quickly and replace in the coop. This is the easiest approach to manure management that I have found.

                  We have one bird indoors that is still in a cage with a wire bottom, an elderly budgie who is too old to be transferred to a walk in aviary. Scraping poop off wire is a real drag, in my opinion.

                  •  Thanks for the great information and ideas! (2+ / 0-)
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                    bigjacbigjacbigjac, elmo

                    Yeah, the hardware cloth doesn't let as much of the droppings through as I'd like.  And it really piles up under the roosts.  And it's hard to scrape off.  I need to find some sort of stiff brush to maybe brush it through the wire.

                    I think I need to re-think my roost situation...  Are you saying you put a wooden shelf up along the walls and they sit up on the shelf?  I gave them broomsticks and sticks to try to imitate tree limbs, and spaced them across the roof space, but I could put shelves up along the walls...  How wide are your roost boards, and do their droppings fall to the floor or on the shelves?

                    My coop is 5ft x 8ft, with a small door in one end, and off the ground, and now pretty well covered in poop so I'm not looking forward to crawling in there to work on it but sacrifices must be made :)

                    I knew raccoons were smart, but that's horrible.....  We had a problem with hanging bird feeders getting knocked around and the seed disappearing.  I even though maybe it was a deer up on its hind legs doing it.

                    One night I heard a strange noise, so I looked out the window and saw 1 dark shape up on top of the tree limb that the feeder was hanging from, and 2 dark shapes on the ground under the feeder.  The one on top was picking up the feeder by the cord it was hanging from and then dropping it, making the seeds spill out, and the ones below were eating it.

                    That was cute, and I haven't seen raccoons before or since here, but what you described is a whole lot more sinister!

                    "It was clear that any research would be in the nature of a post mortem." - Rachel Carson

                    by todamo13 on Mon Feb 24, 2014 at 08:15:27 AM PST

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                    •  I used shelf supports (2+ / 0-)
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                      bigjacbigjacbigjac, todamo13

                      like these ones:


                      to support the roost board. I have bantams, so I used a 1" wide plain, untreated pine board. I sanded it well, and sanded down the edges so they're rounded. For standard size chickens, you can use a wider board: aim for something about as wide as your chicken's foot. Flat is better than a round pole. Flat is easier on the chicken's foot (they can't really grasp anything with their toes anyway) and when it's cold, they can hunker down and cover their toes with their breast feathers to stay warm.

                      Underneath the roost, about 6-8 inches below it, I've built a shelf for the plastic boot trays to rest on.


                      There will still be some droppings on the roost from time to time, but that's pretty easy to scrape off. A couple of times a year, I also wipe down the roost with a wet cloth and some mild soap.

                      We have 8 bantams, split now into two separate flocks because of the pecking order problems that developed. Even so, my chicken chores take about 10-15 minutes in the morning, and a little less than that at night. I use sand in the runs, and use a reptile litter scoop taped to a long handle to clean up the droppings from the sand. Personally, I prefer to do clean up daily, rather than let the coop/run get nasty and have a huge clean up job once or twice a year.

                      •  Thanks again. (0+ / 0-)

                        Interesting that a flat, wider roost is better.  Would also be easier to attach to the coop than round sticks...  That should be included in all of these chicken-raising web sites!  Or I missed it.  Well, just one more project to add to the list...

                        I have 11 full-sized hens, a mix of Ameraucanas (however it's spelled, anyway the ones that lay blue eggs), Australorps, and a few Delawares.

                        "It was clear that any research would be in the nature of a post mortem." - Rachel Carson

                        by todamo13 on Thu Feb 27, 2014 at 06:27:39 AM PST

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          •  Hardware cloth is good (3+ / 0-)

            if it's the kind where the vertical wires are welded to the horizontal wires at the joints. A good low gauge wire is best, galvanized after welding, with small spaces between the wires. I use 19 gauge 1/2" by 1/2" galvanized after weld wire for the run, with 17 gauge wire for the windows and vents on the coop (since night time is likely to be the most dangerous time for predators).  The small openings between the wire also help keep out rats and all but the smallest mice, and keep out wild birds that can eat your chicken feed and give your flock mites.

            Not all welded wire is equal. I bought some cheaper hardware cloth on to use for the apron outside my run to deter predators from digging in and under the sides. As I was installing it, the welds were popping apart left and right. It was OK for the apron, but I wouldn't have used it for the walls/roof of the run.

            Knock on wood, it's been five years and no predator has breached our coop or run.

        •  Dark Cornish are nice & good at evading predators (4+ / 0-)

          You still have to lock them in at night, of course.  The hens are friendly, too.

          They are seasonal egg-layers, but will hatch out lots of chicks for you, and are very good at finding healthy food themselves.  They'll even dig deep holes and pick earthworms out of them.

        •  I live in an urban neighborhood (3+ / 0-)

          and we have raccoon (an awful chicken predator! They can open many kinds of door latches with their fiddly paws), fox, hawk, possum, and lately coyotes.

  •  We already have an infrastructure in place (10+ / 0-)

    that could easily handle this problem--our train system.  If long-distance truckers became short-distance truckers, picking up loads at train stations and driving them to their destinations, problem solved.

    The real threat of famine comes not from our lack of diesel fuel, but our lack of water and reliable weather.  That is happening now.  It simply means that we will have to go back to being a nation of farmers, so if in one area of the country there are drought or devastating storms, another area can pick up the slack.  And I think people will have to get used to eating onions and apples in February rather than strawberries, but we will survive.

  •  Recently in Michigan (15+ / 0-)

    the GOP legislature proposed and are pushing a new law allowing local communities to ban backyard chicken coops as a "public nuisance".
    At the same time, this law bans public interest groups from filing suit against giant agrobusiness operations for similar "nuisance" reasons like, say, leaking pond of liquid pig shit, or wandering GMO seeds and spores.

    They are calling it "The Right To Farm Bill".
    Can't make this shit up.

    I can see Canada from my house. No, really, I can.

    by DuzT on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 05:13:51 AM PST

    •  God this country is so ass-backwards sometimes (2+ / 0-)
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      That sort of crap makes me so freaking angry...  The corruption, and bought-ness of our government by corporate interests is so exposed and blatant.  They don't even bother trying to hide it...  except for the Orwellian names like "The Right to Farm Bill."

      This is also like the dairy industry/federal government vendetta against raw milk.  The dairy industry's factory-farmed, cruelly confined cows are fed grain, making them sick, and making the milk so disgusting it has to be pasteurized to be 'safe' and also taking all the nutrition out of it.  Also causing so many dairy-allergies in Americans.

      Since the dairy industry couldn't produce raw milk if it wanted to, and that is where the market is starting to go, it gets the federal government (the FBI no less!) to go on middle-of-the-night armed raids against pastured raw milk farmers like the Amish.

      You'd think grass-fed raw milk farmers were growing coca plants rather than a healthy, nutritious, environmentally sound food product.

      Why isn't the FBI raiding Monsanto HQ?  Or CAFOs?

      Oh right, never mind.  For a second I forgot who owns 'our' government...

      "It was clear that any research would be in the nature of a post mortem." - Rachel Carson

      by todamo13 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 11:12:49 AM PST

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  •  If we're going back (5+ / 0-)

    to being a nation of subsistence farmers, we're going to need a heck of a lot less people.

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 05:40:32 AM PST

    •  Not necessarily. (5+ / 0-)

      Yields per acre are far higher on diversified, intensively managed small farms. We can grow a lot more food on the same amount of land with a massive input of man-hours. And waste would be far, far less.

      That is, in the unlikely event that water supplies remain a constant.

      •  All well and good (7+ / 0-)

        If you live on a 5 acre lot in a rural area. Not sure what people in Manhattan and Los Angeles are supposed to do.

        If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

        by Major Kong on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 06:01:05 AM PST

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        •  Move out of the city, (3+ / 0-)
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          obviously, and get to work on a farm, for the most part. Where else is that "massive input of man-hours" going to come from?

          And without a means of transport for the production of city workers, the purpose of a city becomes questionable. Mega-cities of millions, anyway. Smaller cities will no doubt continue to serve the functions they had prior to the industrial revolution. It isn't like there will be no transportation at all, even in a worst-case scenario of no machines. After all, there are more horses in the United States today than there were when the automobile was invented.

        •  Rooftop gardens on buildings, greenhouse sunrooms (3+ / 0-)

          in buildings, plants on balconies.  They have started doing 'farms in skyscrapers' in asia somewhere, I don't remember but it might be Japan.

          In parts of cities where people have yards (which are a big waste of water and produce no food), the grass can be replaced with useful gardens.  We could produce a lot of food, even in cities, if we wanted to.

          But the countryside surrounding the cities could produce plenty  for the cities once we replace the corporate industrial toxic-chemical monoculture junk food agricultural system we have now with many small, organic, diverse, local family farms.

          "It was clear that any research would be in the nature of a post mortem." - Rachel Carson

          by todamo13 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 08:49:30 AM PST

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    •  Yes. That's why I said, ninety percent (0+ / 0-)

      of Americans
      will starve and die.

      Since there's only so much good land,
      with good rainfall.

      When all such land
      is used wisely,
      to feed all it can feed,
      using either old fashioned methods,
      or a mix of some machines,
      using some fuels,
      or using electricity,
      maybe with long extension cords,
      when all that is going on,
      I'm guessing only ten percent
      of our current 320 million Americans
      will be feeding themselves,
      in family groups.

      I'm probably way off on my numbers.

      But I don't know
      if my numbers
      are too low,
      or too high.

      Famine in America by 2050: the post-peak oil American apocalypse.

      by bigjacbigjacbigjac on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 11:57:18 PM PST

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  •  The only thing this diary is lacking... (6+ / 0-) the part where you overheard the details of the coming apocalypse while sitting in the bar at the Sheraton in Des Moines.  

    It's not the side effects of the cocaine/I'm thinking that it must be love

    by Rich in PA on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 05:50:43 AM PST

  •  I'm a lot more concerned with dwindling water (7+ / 0-)

    supplies than I am with peak oil. We rely on oil only because "we" have chosen to do so. But water is life.

  •  Book: World Made By Hand (4+ / 0-)

    You might be interested in the book Whole Made By Hand by author James Howard Kunstler (also author of The Long Emergency).

    The book is a fictional view of America after oil runs out; similar in many ways to what you describe.  People live by growing their won food and helping each other out.

    James Howard Kunstler also wrote The Long Emergency - a non-fiction book about the end of oil, and coming changes to industrialized nations.

    "The fool doth think he is wise: the wise man knows himself to be a fool" - W. Shakespeare

    by Hugh Jim Bissell on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 06:16:12 AM PST

    •  Kunstler's post-apocolypti are interesting, but (1+ / 0-)
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      very east-coast oriented.

      a little off for a left-coaster -- our weather is milder and we're apparently a LOT further along the sustainability trail even now. (or maybe it's just me, AND I'm old, so have a considerably different p.o.v. than his characters)

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 11:26:27 PM PST

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    •  I didn't take time to list my sources. (0+ / 0-)

      Mr. Kunstler's
      The Long Emergency
      was my turning point.

      After reading that,
      slowly and carefully,
      some of it twice,
      some pages more than twice,
      after that,
      even though the only numbers
      in that book
      are page numbers,
      I figured out
      he was leaving strong hints,
      without stating in clear sentences,
      what I say:

      Famine in America
      by 2050,
      ninety percent dead,
      from actual famine,
      or fighting over food,

      The title of that book
      should have been,
      Famine in America by 2050.

      But it wasn't.

      So it falls to,

      Someone else?


      I have autism.

      I'm like the Rain Man.

      I see it.

      Most folks

      I like helping folks;
      my first wife,
      was born very disabled,
      couldn't even fed herself.

      I spent 30 years,
      taking care of her,
      feeding her,
      taking her to the hospital,
      taking her back home.

      She died six years ago.

      I'm happily remarried.

      I live with my wife,
      and two of her brothers,
      and one of her uncles,
      and one of her nephews.

      I enjoy cooking for all of them,
      feeding them.

      I'm trying to do
      what I can
      to help young folks
      who will be trying to survive
      the coming apocalypse.

      Famine in America by 2050: the post-peak oil American apocalypse.

      by bigjacbigjacbigjac on Mon Feb 24, 2014 at 01:43:54 AM PST

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  •  If the lack of Fowl doesn't kill us, surely the (1+ / 0-)
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    Poultry-Industrial Complex will.

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    by ROGNM on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 06:48:54 AM PST

  •  I'm sick of feeding chickens and making sure the (2+ / 0-)

    water is replaced because it freezes overnight and cutting and plucking is a bore.

    All for what? Couple eggs a day? I'll wait for the eggcopolypse

    “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

    by ban nock on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 07:06:44 AM PST

  •  I don't eat chickens (4+ / 0-)

    or their eggs, so I probably wouldn't want to raise them. Although some chickens are great at insect control so it's something to be considered for the garden...but probably I won't bother with this.

    In any case, people could learn to grow potatoes, and learn to store them properly, dig/construct cold storage places. You can raise all the potatoes you can eat for a year without too much trouble once you know how.

    With the potatoes as a basis, everything else you grow just improves the taste & nutritional quality of your food. Canning skills and supplies are easily available. Dehydrating is a less work-intensive way to lay in your harvest and preserves the nutrients very well. Look up solar food dryers.

    In many climates you could grow wheat as a main source of calories. I grew wheat one year in my garden and it was a wonderful experience. However, the threshing is the main stumbling block--you really need a community source of equipment to do this job.

    We have to learn to think outside the box of our own little homestead and look around at the possibilities for organizing sustainability in the community.

    Where in the Constitution does it say: "...on behalf of corporate interests" ???

    by sillia on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 07:24:25 AM PST

    •  If you don't like eggs, that's fine (4+ / 0-)

      but the great thing about them (and raw grass-fed cow's milk as well) is that they are complete foods.  Which means they have the perfect ratio, and full complement of amino acids you need to survive and thrive.  Not to mention the healthy life-sustaining fats, etc.

      And when the chickens and cows are raised as they are supposed to be, on pasture, the eggs and milk have all sorts of good Omega-3s in them from the grass.

      Also, dairy and eggs don't involve raising animals specifically to kill for meat, so that might be a 'pro' for some people.

      "It was clear that any research would be in the nature of a post mortem." - Rachel Carson

      by todamo13 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 11:21:32 AM PST

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      •  The amino acid observation (1+ / 0-)
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        is no longer considered relevant--this was based on outdated science that was cited thru the 1970's but as it turns out was just plain wrong. Now lives on as myth...folk-truth.
        I won't go into this any further here, it's kind of OT.

        Where in the Constitution does it say: "...on behalf of corporate interests" ???

        by sillia on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 01:32:44 PM PST

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    •  yeah, we tried wheat, oats & barley all the same (2+ / 0-)
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      year a while back. like, a 4x4 chunk of raised bed each. next garden (post moving), I'm going to try Noddy's dry-rice-in-a-wading-pool thing!

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 11:31:08 PM PST

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  •  It's as easy as chickens? (1+ / 0-)
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    I don't share your concern for 2050 but if it comes to it I'm a crappy farmer. I have other skills though, that I could probably trade for eggs. (Uggghh, we're all going to be so sick of eggs.)

    •  Chickens aren't hard to raise (4+ / 0-)

      They're omnivores (like us) and will eat just about anything.  All you have to do is build them a nice, secure coop, give them water, and manage them, and you'll get super-healthy eggs and great fertilizer in return.

      Another great thing about eggs is that you can add them to many foods.  For instance, bake your own sourdough bread and add 2 or 4 eggs to the dough to add nutrition to it.  Or add an egg to gravy to make it richer and creamier.

      "It was clear that any research would be in the nature of a post mortem." - Rachel Carson

      by todamo13 on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 11:25:59 AM PST

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    Any diary that starts out like this is  not worth reading.  

    ninety percent of Americans, will die, sometime around the year 2050.
    Even if it may accidentally contain a fact or two, the author has immediately disqualified him(?)self as rational thinker.

    •  Fifteen recommends, (1+ / 0-)
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      23 tips,
      some positive comments,
      some distracted comments,
      discussing chickens,
      ignoring the question of famine.

      Two or three
      who say,

      But 23,
      or at least fifteen,
      think I'm rational.

      I hope I'm wrong.

      Time will tell.

      Famine in America by 2050: the post-peak oil American apocalypse.

      by bigjacbigjacbigjac on Mon Feb 24, 2014 at 02:13:32 AM PST

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  •  We had chickens for about 3 years (2+ / 0-)
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    chimene, bigjacbigjacbigjac

    several varieties, but the friendliest and calmestas well as being prolific layers, were Domineckers, Buff Orpingtons, and Americaunas (blue and green eggs.  White leghorns seem to be very popular, but were skittish and standoffish.

    We let them free-range in the daytime, and it led to a daily easter egg hunt- I was out on the back porch working on a piece of furniture, and happened to glance over at the chiminea- full of white, brown, blue and green eggs.

    Good luck in your chicken endeavors!

    Anyone who scoffs at happiness needs to take their soul back to the factory and demand a better one. -driftglass

    by postmodernista on Sun Feb 23, 2014 at 03:55:03 PM PST

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