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Both MeteorBlades and I hope to have some material up on Sunday Kos looking critically at Keystone XL. Hope you join us, especially in comments, that's where some of the best action is on this site! But here's some macro-economic context to tide you over:
The Chinese economy consists of taking raw materials and energy, making that into stuff, and then selling that stuff -- a/k/a "manufacturing." Chinese leaders understand that in order for that model to work, China needs steady supplies of raw materials and energy. But how do you get a steady supply of energy, in a world where those supplies are dominated by a cartel, and are concentrated in a part of the world prone to war? In America, we've been trying to puzzle that out for four decades, without success.

Well, the Chinese have figured it out. They're going to get their energy from Canada, a stable country, and pass it through the United States, another stable country. They will pay the Canadians the world price for oil. They will pay us nothing, or next to nothing. So Uncle Sam is Uncle Sucker.

  • Tesla Motors is reportedly eyeing a new battery production facility, dubbed the Gigafactory, to mass produce power units at a lower cost for its line of sleek, electric cars.
  • Kepler has found 715 new planets. And out of that number, all these nasty super-Earths are yours.
  • I'm telling you guys, it may not be science and its definitely not Game of Thrones, but Vikings is awesome in my opinion!
  • Texas Space Foundation is having a meeting in Houston for interested people. I don't have a website but if you are interested, let me know in the comments and I'll make sure the organizers respond to you!

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  •  Does anyone else think that the news (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    RiveroftheWest

    Reports about the California paralysis cases are.oddly reminiscent of that first New York Tomes report about " rare cancers among homosexual men?"  

    Something about it just feels ... Scary familiar.

    The fruits of the toil of millions are boldly stolen to build up colossal fortunes for a few, unprecedented in the history of mankind; and the possessors of those, in turn, despise the republic and endanger liberty. - Omaha Platform, 1892

    by Rikon Snow on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:18:45 AM PST

  •  Looking forward to KXL article (8+ / 0-)

    I'm sorta hoping that you take some time to demolish the bad logic of "Science" editor Marcia McNutt, who was interviewed last week on NPR's Morning Edition:

    Scientist Switches Position, Now Supports Keystone XL Pipeline

    I took the time to refute McNutt's arguments in the NPR comments section -- well, wasted the time is more like it, because for unexplained reasons NPR saw fit to delete my comment and one other good rebuttal, even though (or more likely, because) they were top-ranked.

    McNutt basically has three arguments in favor of KXL:

    1) They are going to "develop" the tar sands deposits anyway, so why bother stopping the pipeline.

    2) As a way to get the inevitable tar oil to market, the pipeline is "not only the cleanest, but potentially safer because the pipeline is still to be permitted, environmentalists can demand the pipeline be the safest ever engineered." Try to  find the flaw in this argument!

    And 3), "if you look at the cost of transporting oil in a pipeline, it is the very cheapest way to do it. If one can identify a revenue stream that would come from all of the money saved and convert that money then to a renewable energy fund that sets us on that right path, then I think the nation really wins." Huzzah! The US okays the pipeline, the oil company gives all its profits to environmentalists -- everybody wins! No logical flaws there.

    •  I (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      CindyV, RiveroftheWest

      think tar is fairly dirty oil, there will be spills from it like any other nasty toxic shit, and burning that stuff will add to GHGs. But I also think the XL extension is inevitable and it's worth seeing what we can get in the way of regs and green energy dev concessions while we have some leverage.

      •  This country already accepts tar sands oil (2+ / 0-)
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        David Michigan, RiveroftheWest

        via the original Keystone pipeline that runs from Alberta to Patoka, Illinois.  That pipeline has already failed and spilled oil hundreds of times.  And tar sands oil is also already being brought into the U.S. and transported to refineries by rail and truck.  This country is going to have to decide whether the possibility of damaging spills is more acute with current methods of transportation or the completion of the XL pipeline, and which transportation method causes the least damage to the environment.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 10:09:53 AM PST

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      •  "Inevitable" - Now that is one hell of a (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        RiveroftheWest

        concession.

        If we really want to straighten out all this crap we really need to think about shit - Holy Shit.

        by John Crapper on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 03:05:04 PM PST

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    •  Youre using some faulty logic of your own (0+ / 0-)

      1 - She is absolutely correct. Whether or not the oil is dug up is based on the worldwide price of crude, not whether or not the pipeline is built. In other words, it's all going to be dug up.

      2 - Pipelines are far safer and more efficient than the status quo or trains and trucks

      3 - She never said "all the profits" she said "a revenue stream"...exactly the sort of euphemism progressives love to employ when they are referring to confiscatory taxes.

      Left Coast Libertarian

      by pacspeed on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:44:06 AM PST

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      •  Pipeline will make it easier/cheaper to ship (3+ / 0-)

        therefore facilitate the extraction.  That is reason enough to oppose it buy there're a bunch more besides this.  Bottom line is we need to stop digging up fossil fuel.  Facilitating access to it is not how you do that.  Of course if you want to take the Thelma and Louise route....build it.  

        If we really want to straighten out all this crap we really need to think about shit - Holy Shit.

        by John Crapper on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 09:21:43 AM PST

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        •  The tar sands in Alberta do not belong (0+ / 0-)

          to the US, so we have no say in whether it will be extracted or not.  The Canadian government is not about to stop it, and the workers benefiting from their paychecks aren't in favor of stopping it either.  "Facilitating" the extraction is moot; we can't stop it.  Unless the world decides to live without oil, it will be extracted, refined, sold and used.

          "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

          by SueDe on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 10:17:49 AM PST

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        •  The presidential permit decision concerning (3+ / 0-)

          the KXL pipeline is a decision to authorize a facility designed to increase the dependence of the the United States on a foreign nation for 830,000 barrels per day of heavy sour crude from tar sand sources with the greatest greenhouse gas emission intensity -- compared to conventional heavy sour crude it replaces.

          This means that authorization of the pipeline is a concomitant decision having the collateral effect of increasing the Canadian tar sands industry export capability in a 830,000 barrel per day chunk.

          It defies economics to claim that increasing this market export capability for the Canadian tar sands industry is not an inducement for expansion of production of heavy sour crude from tar sands sources.

          Not only will commencement of the operation of the KXL pipeline encourage future production of tar sands crude, it will also have the effect of increasing the prices of heavy sour crude in both the midwest and gulf area markets.

          This means that a national interest test must consider the prospect that a decision in favor of the KXL pipeline will increase consumer prices in the nation for refined hydrocarbon products while spurring the grown of the Canadian tar sands industry.    These are the kinds of detriments associated with making the United States more dependent on tar sands hydrocarbon sources in a time when domestic oil production is booming and oil companies want to export the domestic  crude glut.

          In such a circumstance, why should the United States do this big favor for the Canadian tar sands industry by approving KXL and thus imposing its detriments on USA citizens?

           

          •  Now youre talkin! (0+ / 0-)

            Market forces....the things that actually shape policy and our world. Not liberal hand-wringing.

            You are 100% correct that enabling tar sands oil to get to refiners on the gulf will compete with fracked oil from the dakotas, texas, and elsewhere.

            So, by the same thread of logic, can we presume you support US frackers while you oppose tar sands?

            Left Coast Libertarian

            by pacspeed on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:49:17 PM PST

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    •  Follow the money. Who gets rich off KXL? (2+ / 0-)
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      cocinero, David Michigan

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      American Presidents: 43 men, 0 women. Ready for Hillary

      by atana on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:10:44 AM PST

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      •  They are also getting very rich from a lack (0+ / 0-)

        of the KXL pipeline.

        By buying the "stranded crude" at discount prices for their refineries and then selling the product at the non-discount regular price . . . They're making at least $10,000,000 a day from this windfall, maybe 3 or 4 times that much.

    •  Get ready for a week of focus on KXL and (2+ / 0-)
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      LakeSuperior, RiveroftheWest

      submit your comments.  

      The public comment period for the National Interest Determination ends on March 7, 2014. We have a coalition seeking public comments to oppose the Keystone XL pipeline. Our blogathon with special guests will be the last week of the public comment period: March 3-March 7th.  No need to wait. The following NGOs have online public comment templates or petitions opposing XL.

      You can write your own comment to post at regulations.gov or even copy and paste from one of these online templates, and tweak a little so it does not look like a boilerplate comment, and post that at regulations.gov.

      350.org

      Bold Nebraska

      Center for Biological Diversity

      CCAN or Chesapeake Climate Action Network

      CREDO

      Energy Action Coalition

      Environmental Action

      Friends of the Earth

      League of Conservation Voters

      Moms Clean Air Force

      Montana Environmental Information Center

      National Wildlife Federation

      Natural Resources Defense Council

      Northern Plains Resource

      Oil Change International

      Rainforest Action Network

      Sierra Club

      If we really want to straighten out all this crap we really need to think about shit - Holy Shit.

      by John Crapper on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 09:11:34 AM PST

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    •  Try this again (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      wonmug, John Crapper, RiveroftheWest

      Okay, I guess I expected that most readers here would see the problems with KXL right off the bat. Clearly there is a big need for some public education, starting with our own public.

      1) The tar sands will be "developed" anyway? It is true that they are being strip-mined right now, but with the pipeline in place, the owners will have both an incentive and an economic imperative to mine them three times as fast. The key here is to slow down the mining. Tar sands oil is among the nastiest, dirtiest sources of energy on the planet. The longer we can delay their exploitation, the better. At some point renewables and conservation will (have to) take over from fossil fuels...

      2) What earthly leverage will environmentalists or anyone else have over how the pipeline is built after it is approved? That is simply magical thinking. Show me the mechanism by which the administration can give the pipeline a conditional approval, effective only if KXL is "the safest pipeline ever engineered."

      3) If you think approval of KXL will suddenly make the House Republicans fall in love with the idea of an energy surtax, you are beyond magical thinking. Again, what earthly (or Constitutional) mechanism exists for the administration to exact a tax without Congressional approval? Which you know will never come, at least under this Congress?

  •  Dirty planets - fascinating ... (3+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat, atana, RiveroftheWest

    The larger cores don't allow for atmospheric variation so life hasn't a chance, whereas the small cores allow for too much so any chance at life would be too short.  

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:27:55 AM PST

    •  That's sad. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Pale Jenova, Aunt Pat

      So we still have no brethren out there in space-land?  I was hoping some alien life form could come save us from ourselves....

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:57:34 AM PST

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  •  So. How will nuclear winter impact global (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Aunt Pat, RiveroftheWest

    The fruits of the toil of millions are boldly stolen to build up colossal fortunes for a few, unprecedented in the history of mankind; and the possessors of those, in turn, despise the republic and endanger liberty. - Omaha Platform, 1892

    by Rikon Snow on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:28:49 AM PST

    •  Yes, but only for a short spell (3+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Pat, Rikon Snow, RiveroftheWest

      Blocking out sunlight (the mechanism for nuclear winter) will only decrease photosynthesis and thus, carbon dioxide fixing. When the smoke clears (pun intended), the atmosphere will have even more CO2 in it.

      On the other hand, we will have other things to worry about than the weather.

      And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

      by Pale Jenova on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:19:49 AM PST

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  •  Speaking of Science (6+ / 0-)

    I wrote a blog post about how sometimes Bill Maher is a great champion of science.  And other times he just ignores it because it doesn't jibe with his emotional reaction to stuff.  You know, bullshit.  http://spiderstumbled.blogspot.com/...

    "Unrestricted immigration is a dangerous thing -- look at what happened to the Iroquois." Garrison Keillor

    by Spider Stumbled on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:29:14 AM PST

  •  I just started watching Vikings, and I really like (4+ / 0-)

    it.  Game of Thrones got too over-the-top for me.  I'm curious about the historical accuracy of the main story line (obviously alot of the sub-drama is fiction).

    I find certain aspects especially interesting, like like when the Earl says "I paid for the ships, the plunder is mine".  That is life in a libertarian wonderland where a wealthy individual or group controls EVERYTHING.  Libertarians always tell themselves this time it will be different or that they themselves will someday be on top, but that folly is what keeps it going.

    And we love to wear a badge, a uniform / And we love to fly a flag But I won't...let others live in hell / As we divide against each other And we fight amongst ourselves

    by ban48 on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:34:54 AM PST

    •  It's not very accurate historically. (3+ / 0-)
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      Aunt Pat, dougymi, RiveroftheWest

      Sociopolitical structure in the Viking world was tribal and semi-democratic, with chieftains of small clans voting on how the larger group would conduct itself. The character of the Earl (great role for Byrne) would have been offed as soon as he arrogated excessive power to himself (keeping wannabe despots down was not just an ideal, but a sworn duty).

      Still, it's a cool show. Beautifully shot and well-acted.

      Personally, I'm more a fan of "The Americans." Now that's awesome.

      I live under the bridge to the 21st Century.

      by Crashing Vor on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:48:11 AM PST

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      •  They got into that a little this week (2+ / 0-)
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        Crashing Vor, RiveroftheWest

        They had the judge on the sacred rock judge Rollo rather than allow Ragnar to do it.  Ragnar explained to his boy that it wasn't his place, but the place of the judge. While probably not as accurate as it probably was IRL, they still went in that direction.  I find the sets and costumes pretty accurate too, at least from what I've seen IRL. It'll be interesting to see how they depict the Britons during this period.  

        A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

        by dougymi on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:01:16 AM PST

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      •  BTW, what's really good about the Vikings show (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Crashing Vor, RiveroftheWest

        is that it's not a POS reality show about truckers on ice or the like. It's scripted, well acted and actually has something to do with history. I'll watch it just for that.

        Agree about the Americans too.  That's another good one.

        A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

        by dougymi on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:05:05 AM PST

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  •  I came across this (4+ / 0-)

    fake computer generated scientific articles being published -

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/...

    •  at least they were computer generated (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Aunt Pat

      Lots of bogus papers submitted to paper publishing companies the receive zero review. The internet has given rise to pseudoscience on a scale not seen before. I love going to a diary and seeing links to it.

      “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

      by ban nock on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:56:55 AM PST

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  •  There is no 'Warming Pause" (2+ / 0-)
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    Aunt Pat, RiveroftheWest

    Two links for those of you, who need or like to refute the bogus 'warming has stopped' or 'it's getting cooler' claims by whoever throws those lines at you.

    First the Global Temperature Update Through 2013 by James Hansen et. al.

    Have a look at Fig. 6 at the bottom of page 4. Can you spot the 'stagnation'? If not, you're right, because temperatures on the southern hemisphere go constantly up, as do temperatures on the northern hemisphere is summer. The pronounced cooling in northern winter in recent years, however, can be attributed to a unusual sequence of La Ninas in the pacific ocean.

    One wouldn't call that 'stagnation', would we?

    Second, there's a nice little graph on Tamino's blog. We wouldn't call that 'cooling', would we?

    Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -- Philip K. Dick

    by RandomGuyFromGermany on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:41:18 AM PST

    •  Whenever anyone says "Warming Pause".... (1+ / 0-)
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      RiveroftheWest

      Whenever anyone says "Warming Pause" I like to remind them of the relationship between temperature and energy input when you boil water: The temperature will rise proportionally to the energy input (that's "heat," folks) until you hit 100C, at which it will PAUSE (stay at boiling temp)--even though you're continuing to keep that flame on high--until you've boiled off all the liquid.

      Inside the container of course all heck is breaking loose, so quite frankly, any kind of "pause" is about the scariest thing you can imagine.....

      •  Great for illustration, albeit risky. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        RiveroftheWest

        Depending on the skill of your counterpart, that may allow them to pivot into a perplexing "discussion" of a boiling atmosphere and much "...ha-ha you can't be serious". See that mind-boggling but deliberate confusion of the glass-house metaphor vs. real glass-houses.

        Otherwise that a really great way to point out, that more and more heat is entering the system.

        Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -- Philip K. Dick

        by RandomGuyFromGermany on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 01:12:36 PM PST

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  •  Dont know what VIKINGS has to do with science (4+ / 0-)

    (as opposed to VIKING) but no doubt its pagan-hard-bodies-with-really-big-swords/Xena warrior princess motif gets it a big following among the scifi convention crowd. After all, theres not much sex and skin in the STAR TREK universe these days.

    •  Bring back Captain Kirk (4+ / 0-)

      He can teach the facts of live to Xena hardbodies throughout the galaxy.

      And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

      by Pale Jenova on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:17:41 AM PST

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      •  as long as they're green. :) (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Pale Jenova, RiveroftheWest

        A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

        by dougymi on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:02:21 AM PST

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        •  He didn't let skin color limit him (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          dougymi, RiveroftheWest

          After all, kissing Uhura on national TV was, as Joe Biden would say, a "big f#'n deal."

          He did draw the line with the Horta--a great episode, by the way--although he did work his charms on her.

          But the green babe: "I love you, so now I have to kill you." He had to convince her to change her courting ritual.

          And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

          by Pale Jenova on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 08:25:29 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  Fake science papers (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Aunt Pat

    As has been written about recently elsewhere (I dont remember where) the Chinese science enterprise is very much 'quantity over quality'. How many papers you can list on your CV has a lot to do with positions you get, promotions, etc. Their quality, not so much. Because so many of the people making hiring/promotion decisions wouldnt know the difference between shit and shinola. Its also to the unis advantage to look the other way, because the same applies to  the amount of largesse they receive from the authorities. So theres a whole industry of fake journals with imposing sounding names publishing gibberish. This smells like its an offshoot of that.

  •  And one way or another they will get it (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Aunt Pat, RiveroftheWest

    and all of us American consumers will do nothing to stop buying the "stuff" that the Chinese have to sell, because the one thing no one will ever discuss is changing the way they consume.

    But even if we were to wave a magic wand and stop consuming anything made with oil and stop driving and flying and cut our consumption to zero... Consumption would still go up and up and up because China and India and E Asia have all the people and they want to consume and drive and fly.

    “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

    by ban nock on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 06:51:50 AM PST

  •  Grayson should stick to politicking.. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Pale Jenova, Aunt Pat

    logical thinking is not one of his strong suits:

    Today, energy independence soon will be a reality.

    For China. Thanks to the Keystone XL pipeline.

    Q. Cui bono? ("Who benefits?") A. China.

    Oh really, Alan?  Independence?  'splain that to me...
    Well, the Chinese have figured it out. They're going to get their energy from Canada, a stable country, and pass it through the United States, another stable country. They will pay the Canadians the world price for oil. They will pay us nothing, or next to nothing. So Uncle Sam is Uncle Sucker.
    Ahh so your definition of "independence" involves quite a bit of depending on the US and Canada?

    lol...  don't quit your day job, Alan!

  •  That graph is interesting (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Aunt Pat, terrypinder, RiveroftheWest

    I've been telling everybody that this winter has been much more like the winters  I remember as a kid. Cold, snow but not tons of it, but lots of hard freezes and days where it doesn't get above freezing.

    And apparently I remembered correctly.

    I also noticed that this year, for the first time in ages, my tulips, crocuses and daffs are NOT budding before the first of march. And my hellebore hasn't bloomed yet. They're barely up. Which is as it used to be.

    My trees don't have buds yet. Everything is still dormant.

    Though they're going to pop as soon as it warms up. When we got those couple warm days last week, things started popping up. And then stopped when it got cold again.

    I will be sooooo glad when it gets warmer.

    •  Don't you love it when you see warmer (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Aunt Pat, RiveroftheWest

      temps in Greenland or Alaska than in your hometown?

      And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

      by Pale Jenova on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:22:27 AM PST

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    •  Interesting. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      RiveroftheWest

      Some of my trees are beginning to bud for the third time this year.  About the time they get growing, along comes another freeze.  I just hope they won't be permanently damaged.  We watch the pecan trees - they never bloom before the last freeze.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 10:29:13 AM PST

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  •  It rains diamonds on (in?) Neptune (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Aunt Pat

    so those super-Earths may be a girl's BFF.

    And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

    by Pale Jenova on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:16:33 AM PST

  •  Texas Space Foundation? (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Aunt Pat

    More info please,
    Rt

    Texas is Ground Zero in the fight for a better future. Get on board or get out of the way.

    by DyspepTex on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:28:23 AM PST

  •  On Keystone (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    David Michigan

    Would you please be sure to address the fact that without the pipeline the capacity to ship crude will be 1/3 or so what they could pump through the pipeline?  In other words, without the pipeline the tar sands will be mined at 1/3 the rate.

    FWIW, we met with our railroad rep yesterday. (Yes, we have one). Tank cars and engines are in short supply due to Keystone--so they're manufacturing more. Lots more. Not sure what the carbon foot print is for the manufacture of 10's of thousands of heavy steel vehicles but it can't be small.

    Texas is Ground Zero in the fight for a better future. Get on board or get out of the way.

    by DyspepTex on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:32:37 AM PST

  •  Your own article belies your point (0+ / 0-)

    "Well, the Chinese have figured it out. They're going to get their energy from Canada, a stable country, and pass it through the United States, another stable country. They will pay the Canadians the world price for oil. They will pay us nothing, or next to nothing. So Uncle Sam is Uncle Sucker."

    If we build Keystone...WE refine the oil in Louisiana and Texas, and can export higher value added products (gas, diesel, plastics , etc)

    If we DONT build Keystone, Canada either builds the Vancouver pipeline, and we get nothing, or we continue with the dirty, dangerous, inefficient status quo of trucking and railroading it to Puget Sound for export.

    You guys need to take a serious look at why you oppose Keystone. Most of the arguments I hear are something along the lines of "We need to move beyond fossil fuel"  Which may be true, but doesn't take into account the fact that that oil is going to be dug up and burned one way or another. There are 2 centuries of momentum behind the oil industry, and it wont be overturned in 5, 10, or probably even 50 years.

    Denying the pipeline just denies the US a chance to take a cut of the profits. Period.

    Left Coast Libertarian

    by pacspeed on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 07:38:10 AM PST

    •  Not sure how old you are but if it all gets dug up (0+ / 0-)

      and used we are toast if you know anything about climate disruption projections.  Business as usual is what needs to change and KXL is just one element in that change.  Pay attention to the blogathon next week and get informed.  If you take the time to learn the facts you will realize just how foolish it is for us to invest in further extraction of fossil fuel vs shifting our investment focus to non-polluting sources.  KXL is just one facet in the totality of the change we need to encourage happening.  It cannot be looked at in isolation.  

      If we really want to straighten out all this crap we really need to think about shit - Holy Shit.

      by John Crapper on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 03:14:09 PM PST

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  •  Top diagram (0+ / 0-)

    Not really well known but there is no need to run a 5-year moving average on the global temperature. All those peaks and valleys in the time series are well understood.

  •  Considering that this comes from (0+ / 0-)

    the HuffPost, I'm not surprised that it is absolutely false:

    Well, the Chinese have figured it out. They're going to get their energy from Canada, a stable country, and pass it through the United States, another stable country. They will pay the Canadians the world price for oil. They will pay us nothing, or next to nothing. So Uncle Sam is Uncle Sucker.
    The bottom line is no foreign country is paying "Canada" the world price for oil.   What they are paying is something like 10 to 15% of the world price in revenues.  That's it, basically (plus some jobs that are involved in the extraction, although many of those are out of the country - e.g., the giant machinery is made by Caterpillar, etc).  

    So in reality it is the Canadians who are being played for fools.

    I like that.  

    What I don't like is the ENORMOUS amount misinformation on this topic constantly posted at this site.  But since it comes from top people here, there's little chance of stopping it.

  •  Thanks, DarkSyde! (1+ / 0-)
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    Looking forward to your and MB's KXL pieces tomorrow.  Wish i lived closer to TX, would love to attend the TSF event.

    Speaking of space, the 65th meeting of the International Astronautical Congress' Call for Papers abstract deadline is in exactly 23 hours and 32 minutes if anyone is interested in joining in the fun in Toronto this fall.  I wasn't going to submit one because being a nobody I don't stand a chance of it being accepted, but on a whim last night changed my mind and figured, what the hell.  Nothing to lose and you only live once and all that happy hoo-ha-ha.  

    Gotta be optimistic.  It's Future Day, you know!  :)

    Pessimism of the intellect; optimism of the will. - - Antonio Gramsci

    by lehman scott on Sat Mar 01, 2014 at 09:28:24 AM PST

  •  The Alan Grayson piece does not comport (1+ / 0-)
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    with a reality-based approach to the KXL northern portion, whose primary purpose is for importing to the United States up to 830,000 barrels of tar sands crude per day for refining in the United States.  

    This tar sands crude will be used in gulf-area refineries that can already refine heavy sour crude from Mexico, Venezuela and the Saudis.    Many of these gulf refineries were  modified to accommodate a high proportion of heavy sour crude in their crude slates about 10 years ago.   Such refineries can switch from heavy sour crude from conventional petroleum sources to tar sands heavy sour crude with no change in process equipment and little effect on present emissions.  

    The entire Alan Grayson piece is an example of Greenpeace-style environmental advocacy by conflation and picture painting.    It is designed to address how you feel about KXL rather than describing KXL and providing accurate, factual-based criticism of the entire KXL project.   This kind of anti-KXL advocacy is not effective because it does not legitimately engage arguments and criticisms addressing the national interest test on the project.  

    Trying to train or trick the public into thinking that the primary purpose of the KXL pipeline is as a conveyance of either heavy sour crude or refined hydrocarbon products to China is erroneous and unethical environmental advocacy.  

    Claiming that the KXL pipeline is primarily for oil exports is environmental advocacy malpractice, since such an argument makes the national interest test less compelling and not more compelling for President Obama's decision.

    In fact, KXL-delivered heavy sour crude from tar sands from the north portion is going to United States Gulf refineries as a dedicated supply.   The decision to allow another 830,000 barrels imported of the worst greenhouse gas intensive liquid hydrocarbons on earth....to be used in gulf refineries....should be of crucial interest to the United States.  

    Note that new deliveries from a future KXL pipeline are hardly the first and exclusive deliveries of tar sands crude to the region or the United States.  

    Publicly claiming this entire physical situation as a pipeline conveyance to China is a dedicated loser of a political frame and erroneous physical description in the present situation because it is simple a fraudulent conflation and non-valid environmental advocacy.

    Aspects of getting people riled up about a pipeline as a conveyance to China is an act encouraging overt anti-Chinese political & cultural bias and bigotry.   Progressive Democrats don't do that and neither should the Sierra Club.  That environmental groups use the anti-Chinese theme even in fundraising appeals by showing tankers to China from the KXL pipeline is not so thinly disguised fomenting of ill-will against China and Chinese people.

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