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Looks like someone is about ready to throw in the towel on that whole replace Obamacare thing that has proven so difficult for House Republicans.
Boehner just now -- GOP is against #ACA fixes, only for repeal: "The truth is you can't fix this law, it has to be torn out by its roots"
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So all of those things in the law that Republicans say they want to keep—protections for people with pre-existing conditions, adult children staying on family policies, insurance companies being prohibited from dropping people capriciously—all of that Boehner thinks has to be "torn out by its roots." Good to know.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:46 AM PST.

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  •  Tip Jar (25+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:46:48 AM PST

  •  Hey Boney! Git yer health insurance fix here! (10+ / 0-)

    Simply allow everyone to sign up for Medicare Part A & Part B, change Part D to being under Medicare control, not insurance or pharmaceutical corporations, and the not-for-profit single-payer Medicare health insurance that we are each already paying for can be ours.  Everyone who is already on it pays for it (it's deducted from Soc Sec before the remainder is deposited into individual checking accounts), there are no exceptions, no declines for prior conditions.

    See?  That's a simple and easy fix.

    If you and the rest of our Cretinous Congress Critters don't want to entertain the simplest solution that would benefit We The People because you're all getting kickbacks from insurance, medical, and pharmaceutical corporations..., then you can fuck off.

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:59:03 AM PST

  •  The GOP really is against these things: (11+ / 0-)

    • Poor people
    • Fairness
    • Economic growth (especially if it helps poor people)
    • Did I mention poor people?
    • Non-whites
    • Non-males
    • Poor white males, too. (Just to clarify)
    • Did I mention fairness?

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 11:59:50 AM PST

  •  GONE, (1+ / 0-)
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    Mayfly

    Medicare's 7 extra years of solvency.
    The prescription drug doughnut-hole closing for seniors.
    Women not being charged more for their health coverage.

    Is that really what you baggers (Left, Right and Center) want?

    •  One - I'm not a bagger but I will answer (6+ / 0-)

      your questions (btw, I'm on the left).

      The medicare's 7 extra years of solvency would extend  longer if instead of giving money to for-profit insurance companies, Medicare got the money.  Seems simple to me.

      Prescription drug doughnut hole should never have happened, so Yes, I want it closed (and being a senior, it would be nice).

      Being female may be a pre-existing condition, but we shouldn't be charged extra, since both males and females have breasts (check out the nipples on a male body builder - ahhh); while women have a uterus (cancer, birth etc.), men have prostates (cancer), testicles (cancer and other problems, etc.). Men get Viagra (or similar) but men complain about women getting birth control.

      I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

      by woolibaar on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 01:48:22 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  You are right, woolibaar, but we would not have (3+ / 0-)

        any sort of affordable health care  at all if the bill authorizing it had put the for-profit insurance companies out of business.

        What we've got is (1) better than what we had before, and (2) a step in the right direction.

        What you would prefer is sensible and wise.  What Obama and Democrats in Congress were able to achieve is the very most that was politically possible at the time.  It is a huge achievement, and the hard Right is terrified of it and how it will progress.

        "Stand your ground" laws promote aggression rather than discretion."

        by Mayfly on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 03:48:21 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  it justs shows the (1+ / 0-)
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          Mayfly

          need for a political process where corporations do not call the shots

          if you want to join my campaign for campaign finance reform, please let me know. CFR is the deathstar issue

          by GideonAB on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 04:17:30 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

          •  Exactly GideonAB, but I, for one, don't know how (0+ / 0-)

            to achieve that.  (Except, of course, corporations should not be "people" under the law (unless the corporate CEO is liable for jail time.)

            "Stand your ground" laws promote aggression rather than discretion."

            by Mayfly on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 05:03:17 PM PST

            [ Parent ]

        •  It is better than what we had before. (1+ / 0-)
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          Mayfly

          We can hope that as people realize what "universal health care" is about, they will finally realize how awful (almost spelled it "offal") the current system is and start pushing for real reform. Maybe if the Rethug are finally the minority (or worse) that they deserve to be, we can actually make some changes for the better.

          Unfortunately, there are too many DINOs in Congress to actually accomplish a more progressive (as opposed to what we have now, not necessarily the "progressive" agenda) agenda. Maybe if we all wish real hard, Tinkerbelle will actually live!!

          I reject your reality and substitute my own - Adam Savage

          by woolibaar on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 05:24:31 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

  •  Is there a good list of all the anti-ObamaCare ads (1+ / 0-)
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    Mayfly

    that have been debunked? I'm looking for a list of ten or more ads, that simply lays them out with links to the myth busting.

    Tx

    Form follows function -- Louis Sullivan

    by Spud1 on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 03:35:20 PM PST

  •  Is he attending CPAC. (0+ / 0-)

    I read that the printer screwed up the programs for the conference.

    I. What can only be called a fit of raving honesty, the printer used OWRM instead.

    Old
    White
    Racist
    Males

    What we call god is merely a living creature with superior technology & understanding. If their fragile egos demand prayer, they lose that superiority.

    by agnostic on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 03:39:29 PM PST

  •  Didn't Boehner comment extemporaneously... (2+ / 0-)
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    ...last week or so that his party was simply overflowing with great ideas to fix Obamacare?

    Did I dream that?

    •  You're not supposed to remember yesterday, (1+ / 0-)
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      much less last week, if you're a Republican.

      You can, however, remember Reagan plus a time in America which never actually existed, but which you want to take your country back to.  (Apologies to my old English teacher for that garbled syntax.)

  •  Boehner should welcome the ACA (0+ / 0-)

    All he'd have to do is pay the co-pay for his brain transplant.

    "There are times when even normal men must spit in their hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

    by rwgate on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 03:41:27 PM PST

  •  I would like to see it torn out too, (2+ / 0-)
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    MargaretPOA, Mayfly

    And see single payer. I agree with Republicans, the  private insurance market has proven, even with Obamas and Congresses valient attempt to help them, it is incapable of providing needed care to all Americans. Of course, Orange John will never admit he just found out the same thing, and what he is really saying he re (as a "pro lifer") is that if you do not have money,  theRepublicans want you to live in immense pain and die.

  •  They can't find a conservative alternative (4+ / 0-)
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    Mayfly, elfling, starduster, BusyinCA

    Because the ACA IS the conservative alternative.

    "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for a real Republican every time." Harry Truman

    by MargaretPOA on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 03:44:01 PM PST

    •  True, MargaretPOA, it is what the conservative (0+ / 0-)

      alternative would be if latter-day conservatives had an ounce of compassion.  It is a foot in the door.  And the current conservatives know that and fear that.

      "Stand your ground" laws promote aggression rather than discretion."

      by Mayfly on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 03:53:53 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  It was written by the Heritage Foundation (0+ / 0-)

        Other than a few consumer protections, the ACA IS the conservative plan. It always has been.

        "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for a real Republican every time." Harry Truman

        by MargaretPOA on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 05:06:50 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

  •  He doesn't have 218 votes. (0+ / 0-)

    Democrats wouldn't support an Obamacare replacement, and at least 30-40 Republicans would vote against any comprehensive plan that does not constitute repeal.

  •  Their Last Plan Dumped 1 MILLION Off Insurance.... (0+ / 0-)

    & added $76 BILLION to the national debt over 10 years.  The CBO rated it.  It got blasted, hooted at & quickly went away.

    They've got nothing.  They'll never come up w/ anything that would be helping the average joe whom they see as lazy & just waiting around for another government handout.    

  •  If Boehner et. al. could get his wish and the (0+ / 0-)

    ACA were repealed immediately, the GOP would be responsible for one of the biggest public/private SNAFU's in history.  The currently underemployed lawyers would make out big time with all the litigation that would ensue in all directions.  Only depraved gremlins would want to see a repeal right now.  Somebody ask Boehner how he thinks things would work, and watch him cough and walk away.

    Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

    by judyms9 on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 03:58:11 PM PST

  •  What I don't understand (0+ / 0-)

    If government medical care is so bad, and the government death panels selecting who will live and who will die are so bad, then why do we have VA hospitals?  If the free market is so good, why don't we take part of the 60 billion spend on the hospitals and use it for fully subsidized private insurance for every veteran?  Let qualified private doctors, not government controlled death panels, select the proper course of treatment.

    This is the missing conversation in this whole process.  The VA has proven to be totally incompetent in providing benefits.  Sell the entire infrastructure, stop wasting money on upkeep and administrators.  Just give every veteran insurance, let them go where they want.  

  •  Here's the conundrum for the GOP... (0+ / 0-)

    No one wants all the "good "stuff to disappear; womens' free screenings, contraceptive coverage, pre-conditions  being disallowed, money back from your insurance company for not using the proper percentages on true health care, income subsidies for lower income so they can get insurance, and to quote the "King and I"; etc, etc, etc.
    ANY GOP plan must provide all these things and they have NO IDEA IN HELL!!!! how to do that! So, just throw stones at the law that provides all the goodies and promise to repeal at any cost. Unfortunately for them repeal now means kicking millions off their insurance plans. They dug their own graves the ASSHOLES.

  •  Boehner just uttered the GOP play book. (1+ / 0-)
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    The Republicans in the last 10 years do not "fix" anything; that is too much work.

    What they propose is always abolish, vote to repeal/or throw in the trash bin.

    There is no way they can turn back the clock on Obamacare. This is a "patient protection," consumer protection, and health insurance regulator.

    We can never regress to the way we all sat back while our insurance companies screwed us over.  Each and every year businesses presented the "new" plan to their employees and more times than not, it was more expensive and required a larger co-pay.  Individual policyholders had their rates go up each year for policies that were subpar, but many didn't know it until they had some horrific illness or accident and had to use it.

    Medical care in this country will always be expensive.  It will never be cheap, or "free."  But, with Obamacare coverage will be more equitable and uniform, and the rises in premiums will go at a slower rate.

    Unless our culture has a change of heart, we will not go for single payer or Medicare for all in my lifetime; we worship big business too much.  Someday, perhaps.....

    •  Single payer will happen some day. (0+ / 0-)

      There will be tumultuousness and great angst before that occurs, though.  It will take 60+ votes beyond the blue dogs in the Senate to make it happen, though.

      Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
      I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
      —Spike Milligan

      by polecat on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 06:57:19 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  Great. Now the GOP has its 2014 campaign slogan: (1+ / 0-)
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    BusyinCA

    Yeah, we've got nothing.

    Winning elections is great, but building movements is better.

    by Alvin K on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 05:19:40 PM PST

  •  This man has lost his marbles. (1+ / 0-)
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    polecat

    "The truth is you can't fix this GOP, it has to be torn out by its roots"

    I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

    by KayCeSF on Thu Mar 06, 2014 at 05:19:46 PM PST

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