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Jolly thinks we're better off without this.
The Republican candidate to fill the late-Rep. C.W. “Bill” Young (R-FL) in Florida’s 13th congressional district is fully committed to repealing Obamcare, but some seniors who (sigh) have already voted for him don't think that's such a hot idea. Think Progress's Scott Keyes attended a David Jolly meet-and-greet at a Florida senior center, and queried the would-be congressman on his vow for repeal, even if it would mean hundreds of thousands of newly insured Floridians would lose their coverage.
KEYES: A few of the folks that I spoke with wanted to see Obamacare repealed as you called for, but are worried that something on the order of 300,000 Floridians have gotten insurance through it. Is that something that’s going to factor into your vote if you get to Washington? The fact that there are somewhere around 300,000 Floridians who have already gotten insurance through Obamacare.

JOLLY: We are better off without Obamacare. You may have heard the woman in there, who lost three doctors, I believe she said. We’ve seen premiums go up. [...]

KEYES: Do you think folks who have gotten insurance through the exchanges, is it fair to say they would be better off?

JOLLY: I think we can address affordable care, we can address pre-existing conditions through truly less-government solutions, not through Obamacare.

Nice non-answer there. Keyes also spoke with some of the attendees of the meeting, including two who had already voted for Jolly, who were just a little bit horrified when they found out what they had endorsed.
Terry O’Reilly, who said her age was “probably 87,” shook her head and said, “I don’t like that. I would prefer if there was safety for people less fortunate than I am. Obamacare is a heck of a lot better than nothing.” Her friend, Carmen Sagnella, agreed. “I would have a good discussion with him about that,” she told ThinkProgress.
Note to Democratic candidates: make sure your constituents know that your opponent wants to take away the health insurance their friends and neighbors and family just got. Because it will make a difference.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 08:52 AM PST.

Also republished by DKos Florida, North & Central Florida Kossacks, and Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (34+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 08:52:56 AM PST

  •  'Obamacare is a heck of lot better than nothing.' (4+ / 0-)

    Way to go GOP.

    •  why don't Seniors realize....? (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      GleninCA

      that repealing Obamacare TAKES AWAY their 50% discount for prescription medications and free preventive services - that have been in effect for
       over 3 YEARS.

      Key Features of the Affordable Care Act By Year

      2011: People with Medicare can get key preventive services for free, and also receive a 50% discount on brand-name drugs in the Medicare “donut hole.”
      See More 2011 Changes.

      http://www.hhs.gov/...

      "Tax cuts for the 1% create jobs." -- Republicans, HAHAHA - in China

      by MartyM on Sat Mar 08, 2014 at 08:32:15 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  It's extremely bizarre for a congressional (2+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        MartyM, GleninCA

        candidate to choose a senior center to deliver a campaign message of any kind on the ACA.  Seniors on Medicare will experience the least impact of the new law, and all the changes they will experience are for the good.  
        Mr. Jolly sounds like a lifetime member of the conservative brain trust.

        "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

        by SueDe on Sat Mar 08, 2014 at 09:33:20 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  This strategy fits his BS ads... (2+ / 0-)
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          GleninCA, SueDe

          that Obamacare will cut Medicare by $717 billion lie claiming benefit losses.  No lie is too old or too debunked to be used in a campaign.

        •  Makes Perfect Sense (1+ / 0-)
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          SueDe

          Continue to support the repeal of Obamacare and “fight the good fight” knowing that the repeal will never actually happen. Get the political benefits of being “opposed to socialism” without actually having to take responsibility for your position because you know the bill will never become law.

          "For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream shall never die." --Senator Ted Kennedy

          by Blue Silent Majority on Sun Mar 09, 2014 at 02:09:53 PM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Yet These Same Older People Vote GOP (1+ / 0-)
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    FloridaSNMOM

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 09:26:49 AM PST

  •  I hope the GOP'ers that will be voting take that (2+ / 0-)
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    FloridaSNMOM, nocynicism

    into consideration along with all the other asinine things the Repubs are doing. I am so hoping Alex Sink wins this seat. Re posted to DKos Florida.

    "No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar." Abraham Lincoln

    by appledown on Fri Mar 07, 2014 at 09:40:07 AM PST

  •  Joan, Democratic politicians are not smart enough (0+ / 0-)

    to understand your message.
    They're  smarter than Republicans, but that's not saying a  lot.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Sat Mar 08, 2014 at 07:14:25 PM PST

  •  Can't wait till this ends here on Tuesday... (1+ / 0-)
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    whizdom

    The ads are following me on YouTube.  And yes, I have already acquiesced that Sink will be my next Congressman, though I don't like it one bit....just my views...

  •  Truly mind-boggling (5+ / 0-)
    I think we can address affordable care, we can address pre-existing conditions through truly less-government solutions, not through Obamacare.
    Then why didn't it happen in the decades long experiment we had with purely private healthcare? I get so sick of hearing these right-wing numbskulls tout "market-based solutions" for problems that only exist as a result of market forces.

    People with preexisting conditions will always have difficulty finding coverage if left at the mercy of the market because, by definition, they are more costly to insure. Without sufficient regulation, costs will always increase for medical care because demand is almost perfectly inelastic.

    The ACA is severely flawed imo, but still far better than the previous (non)system and far better than anything that has been proposed as an alternative.

    "The subjects of every state ought to contribute towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities" - Adam Smith

    by Jesse Douglas on Sat Mar 08, 2014 at 07:15:21 PM PST

    •  There are no "market based" solutions (0+ / 0-)

      without regulation by the state, not in health insurance, not in financial transactions and not environmental considerations.  
      Ever.

      "In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican." - H. L. Mencken

      by SueDe on Sat Mar 08, 2014 at 09:42:16 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

  •  I don't (2+ / 0-)
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    sawgrass727, GleninCA

    know how democrats are losing this argument. I think democrats should make it a choice, be willing to lose for what you believe. Every vote to repeal Obamacare is a vote for the insurance company to drop you when you are sick, to kick your children off their coverage after the age of 18, lifetime limit, they want the insurance company back in charge and ask the voters if anyone thinks that's a good thing then by all means vote republican.

  •  Old People are stuck in their ways (0+ / 0-)

    It is tough to educate (deprogram?) senior citizens about how bad an idea personally it is for them to vote for anyone labeled a Republican.  

    Unless they can afford to buy a table at those $10,000 dollar a plate fundraising dinners, the modern Republican agenda offers NOTHING for them, and is only interested in transferring what modest means they have to those same interests.

    (Ask if their "estate" will exceed $5 Million;  "Why are you worried about the estate tax?"  Would you rather die in the street when they cancel ("privatize") Medicaid payments to the nursing Homes?)

    In the dark shadow of the Great Satan of Retail

    by OzarkOrc on Sat Mar 08, 2014 at 07:44:56 PM PST

  •  Misinformation is the GOP's only hope now... (1+ / 0-)
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    wishingwell

    ... The GOP has already wrapped up the sociopath vote, so the only voters left to court with the "Obamacare will destroy civilization" meme are the ones with a conscience, who actually care about things like living in a country where all people have access to affordable care.

    I've got a feeling that in all but the reddest districts, by the time November rolls around, most voters will oppose the Republican agenda to take away healthcare from millions of working Americans.

  •  We need to hold candidates' feet to the fire on (0+ / 0-)

    this and every other issue. I really don't know that people are well informed--especially if they habitually listen to Fox.

    "Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

    by Diana in NoVa on Sat Mar 08, 2014 at 07:53:50 PM PST

  •  Dipshits on the Right.... (1+ / 0-)
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    soundchaser

    "Keyes also spoke with some of the attendees of the meeting, including two who had already voted for Jolly, who were just a little bit horrified when they found out what they had endorsed."

    Well, they should be horrified. If you actually vote for a total dipshit without checking out what he stands for, what do you expect? Actual governance? This sums up GOP voters who are not part of the one percent. These poor GOP voters don't have a pot to piss in, but they let their racism and ignorance kick in, and they'll vote for anybody with an "R" behind their name. Why? Because they actually believe that the guy with the "R" behind his name stands up for them. Of course the cold, hard reality is that guys like Jolly don't stand for them, they only stand for oligarchs and corporations. When they finally realize this fact, they are "horrified". To all you suckers who voted for Jolly in the primary, just take comfort in the fact that you know what he stands for-screwing you.

  •  Yeah thanks a lot, grandma (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    soundchaser

    And your friend too.

    Dopes.

    Like yeah how could you know the facts after only three years of the ACA?

    Alex Sink blows as a candidate but at some point don't voters have to find their own asses?

  •  I hope the last paragraph in this diary... (0+ / 0-)

    ...is heeded by my state's Democratic candidates to accurately portray what their GOP rivals want to do.

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." --Gandhi

    by alaprst on Sun Mar 09, 2014 at 09:16:16 AM PDT

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