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Workers rallied at a Chicago McDonald's Saturday afternoon to protest a manager's extreme verbal abuse of a sick worker there. Carmen Navarrette, who's been working at the McDonald's for nine years, says that after she asked to go home after a diabetic episode, her manager told her she should "just put a bullet in [her] head."

Several Chicago aldermen rallied with the workers, and:

"I stand with the workers of McDonald's and call on the corporation to treat them with respect and dignity,” Ald. Muñoz of the 22nd ward, where Carmen Navarrette lives, said in a statement. “No one should be verbally abused or threatened at work."
While telling workers to shoot themselves in the head may be an extreme example, fast food workers often report bullying and verbal abuse from managers. It's just that, unless workers are organized enough to fight back, we don't hear about it. Billionaire venture capitalists get space on the Wall Street Journal editorial page to claim that complaints about massive economic inequality are just like Nazi Germany, while fast food workers are insulted and made to work off the clock or while they're sick and we only rarely hear about it.

Aside from the insults and abuse, not being allowed time off when they're sick is typical for fast food workers outside the few cities and one state that have paid sick leave laws. A paid sick leave bill in Chicago has the support of a majority of aldermen, but no word on whether Mayor Rahm Emanuel supports it.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:03 AM PDT.

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  •  Sick leave, especially in the restaurant industry (33+ / 0-)

    is obviously a substantial public health issue. Do you want the people who prepare and serve your food to have communicable diseases? Even if you're a rich person who doesn't give a shit about workers, you probably ought to agree with me.

    •  It is unbelievable how many sick workers (21+ / 0-)

      there are in a restaurant at any given time. There is no such thing as sick leave for most restaurant workers. A lot of them have a policy of requiring a doctor's note to prove that they were indeed sick and could not be there. They still do not get paid any money for missing that time. And some (probably most given my son's experiences) managers make it extremely difficult to keep a position if a worker does not show up for work when sick.

      There is also no recognition that people may have disabilities that need to be managed, such as the diabetes in this case. The feeling that has been communicated to my son is that if he needs something special he should find another line of work. The problem is, he loves the culinary field, and that is where he wants to work. After seeing what he goes through, I'm not sure if there is any other field that treats its workers as shabbily as the restaurants, fast food or otherwise.

      "A teacher affects eternity; he can never tell where his influence stops." Henry Adams.

      by glendaw271 on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:39:52 AM PDT

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    •  As one who got sick from being serviced by (8+ / 0-)

      a sick food service employee, they should be allowed to take off WITH PAY.

      I got strep from a guy in Subway's and he looked too sick to even be there, let alone making my sandwich.

      I had strep within 24 hours of coming into contact with that kid.  I remember calling that subway's and asking if the kid had strep and was told he did, and they apologized.

      Instead of apologizing, I asked why couldn't that kid been given time off to get well, and was told the management didn't provide sick leave unless you worked there long enough to start accruing it (something like five years or so).

      And if Rahmbo doesn't support paid sick leave for food service workers, he should watch where he eats from now on - he might encounter some "secret sauce" he doesn't want to know about.

      "Washington, DC: Where Corruption is Rewarded, and Ethical Merit is DESPISED.

      by The Truth on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 09:50:22 AM PDT

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    •  When I worked at Starbucks (4+ / 0-)

      my manager bragged about working a full shift with a 105 degree fever when I was unable to stop throwing up and had to go home, to remind me what a wimp I was being. This is with one of the most progressive corporations in the country. I cannot imagine how much worse it has to be elsewhere.

      And yes, this was the store manager. In charge of everyone. Corporate-owned, in case Starbucks wants to pretend they have no control over franchises.

      I ended up being admitted to the ER (after trying to go to urgent care) for severe dehydration, my blood chemistry was a mess, and I was also diagnosed with anemia.

      Sorry for being a wimp. Now I have a wimpy desk job where I'm treated like a human being, because I have a college degree and connections. Most have no way out.

      Is fheàrr fheuchainn na bhith san dùil

      by bull8807 on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 10:43:18 AM PDT

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      •  ...the hell...? (0+ / 0-)

        Gastrointestinal illnesses should be an automatic day off.  Even my lousy manager (who was a real fsckhead about pregnant employees) in my last restaurant job knew that.  His osha poster had handwritten on it a list of types of food poisoning, norovirus, and diarrhea; all of those were legit reasons to call in.  It's too easy to spread them to customers.

    •  What, you mean we should worry ... (0+ / 0-)

      ... about the health of those who prepare and handle restaurant meals for public consumption? WHY??!!  Just because a sick person in a public kitchen could easily become "patient zero"?

      Those people who never eat in a fast food restaurant (i. e., the 1%) have no reason to care about how healthy the workers in such places are, because they won't catch whatever's being dispensed.

      OF COURSE the New Right is wrong - but that doesn't make WRONG the new RIGHT!

      by mstaggerlee on Wed Mar 12, 2014 at 07:14:52 AM PDT

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  •  I was there (12+ / 0-)

    It was led by the  Workers Organizing Committee of Chicago (WOCC) which is the voice of Fight for 15 in the city.We marched into the McDonalds led by the women of WOCC. WOCC members and allies gave McDonald's quite an earful in both Spanish and English until police ordered us to leave. The manager, whose name is Francisco Quintana, hid out in the back.

    WOCC had announced the protest a couple of days ago as part of their International Women's Day actions.

    "Don't believe everything you think."

    by BobboSphere on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:25:28 AM PDT

  •  A Manager Like That Shouldn't Have A Job (18+ / 0-)


    You're in a position of power and that's the way you talk to the people who work for you? If I were at the McDonald's Corporation, I'd have that manager's head for that.

    And as the song and dance begins, the children play at home with needles, needles and pins.

    by The Lone Apple on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:29:58 AM PDT

    •  Should a worker who can't work every day work? (1+ / 0-)
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      There is a lot to unpack here.

      Maybe the worker is not able to get access to health care or is being forced to work because so many people think not working is dishonorable.  Maybe if we accepted that some people are not healthy enough to be at work regularly, and we should just help those people, maybe we could help an economy who has too many workers, and needs fewer workers at a higher pay.

      Maybe the worker misses a lot of day for various reasons, and the manager get yells at by customers because the store is understaffed.  Yes maybe the store should overstaffed, but then the manager would likely lose the job.  Maybe the manager has a family to feed.  Maybe the store should just hire professional MBAS and pay the workers even less.

      I don't know that blaming a manager for losing his or her temper without knowing everything is reasonable.  I would love for manager to be fair and happy people, but in my experience most manager come from the same place as the employees.  They have worked hard to get promotions to provide a better life for their families under ofter harsh conditions.

      One way that conservatives win is to set up adversarial relationship between people groups.  They set up fights between teachers and the public whose kids they are trying to educate.  They set up fights between workers and their immediate supervisors who really have little more power, and often little more pay.  I know 19 year old kids who are managers, how make basically the same as the people they supervise, who really have few adult coping skills, and whose workers just blast them.

      There is usually a better way to deal with a situation than abusive language, but the problem with a place like mcdonalds is not that a employee got yelled at.  It is that no one is being adequately compensated for the work that they do.

    •  McDonalds (1+ / 0-)
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      desert rain

      probably pays that manager a salary and then exploits labor law loopholes to require him to work ungodly hours.

      When I was a fast food manager (in Florida) if someone called in sick there was a good chance that I would have to suddenly stay for a double shift. When you get to work at 6am and expect to go home a 4pm, and then at 3:30 find out that you are staying to 10 or 11 pm for no extra pay, you might have a very poor reaction too.

      I'm not excusing his abhorrent behavior, but understand that the managers of these places are just as abused as the hourly employees are (if not more so).

  •  "Or, I could just eat Big Macs every day." (1+ / 0-)
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    Either way, same result.

  •  I can guess whether Rahmie supports it. (3+ / 0-)


    Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it.

    by anastasia p on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:39:30 AM PDT

  •  When an employee is paid what they're worth, (7+ / 0-)

    management tends to treat them accordingly. An individual who works years at a low-paying position might be viewed by a manager as worth only what he or she is being paid and expendable.

    A higher federal minimum wage would give the lowest income workers more options. Therefore, they'd be less likely to be taken advantage of by management and more likely to be treated with respect.

    I'm not suggesting that the higher one's income, the more respect one is given. It isn't that simple. What I'm referring to is related to the disdain many wealthy people have for the poor.

    Poverty is too often viewed as a negative character trait & wealth is too often viewed as a positive character trait. It seems to be embedded in our social dna- the idea that an excess of money indicates an individual possesses superior intelligence and/or personality. Many of the wealthy believe this of themselves.  

    "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Gentle Giant on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:41:27 AM PDT

  •  any time you eat at mcdonald's (7+ / 0-)

    you are supporting wage theft, unpaid ovetime, low quality food prepared by people with no sick leave.  my mother had this sign on the wall of her office for many years:
    "We the unwilling,
    Led by the unqualified,
    Working for the ungrateful,
    Have been doing so much for so long with so little,
    That we now attempt the impossible with nothing."
    i think that describes working in the fast food industry. the other chains are not any better, either in working conditions or food served.  very sad.

  •  Times like this i wish I still practiced law (1+ / 0-)
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    historys mysteries

    This lawsuit is gonna be SO much fun.

    Damn you retirement!  lol

  •  There's no excuse for the manager's behavior (6+ / 0-)

    but we should keep in mind that a lot of those managers work well above 40 hours a week and aren't being paid much better than the workers.  So while the manager should be disciplined or fired, (assuming the manager isn't a franchisee, in which case that might be difficult), sometimes people do intolerably offensive things when under a lot of stress that they might not do otherwise.

    As is so often the case, in corporate structures, the fish rots from the head down.

    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

    by corvo on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:51:04 AM PDT

  •  What is the address of the McD...? (4+ / 0-)

    Is it a company-owned store?
    Is it a franchise-owned store?

    What is the name of the manager?

    What is the name of the person who told this to the worker?

    Then, knowing this, put up a billboard.


    Ugh. --UB.

    Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

    by unclebucky on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:53:09 AM PDT

  •  This is good stuff. (3+ / 0-)

    The whole issue with minimum wage -- all of it -- is that employers have accumulated so much power that there is no honest bargain in low-end employment agreements and little correlation between low-end wages and the value of work provided.

    I'm not sure what to call these events as they are not strikes in the way that I am used to thinking of them, but worker uprisings are a way to seize some of that power back and create an environment where employers will have to cede some of that value in order to conduct business.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:53:31 AM PDT

    •  Angry flash mob- Excellent! (2+ / 0-)
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      dinotrac, Randtntx

      Laser focus at the very site of the injustice.

      Bad for business, Mister Quintana.

      'How like fish we are: ready, nay, eager, to seize upon whatever new thing.......And how we rue our haste, finding the gilded morsel to contain a hook". ALDO LEOPOLD - A Sand County Almanac

      by flowerfarmer on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 09:45:54 AM PDT

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      •  Kind of nice in that focus, too. Expose real (3+ / 0-)

        personalized injustices instead of "conceptualized" (sorry -- internal thesaurus not working today) issues.  It's important to realize that it's not just a debate. Bad things are happening to real people -- and, HEY! ALL YOU GET A JOB TYPES: They're happening to people who HAVE A JOB!

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 09:51:29 AM PDT

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  •  15. n/t (0+ / 0-)

    Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

    by unclebucky on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:55:26 AM PDT

  •  Death Panel Abbreviated (2+ / 0-)
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    happymisanthropy, PSzymeczek

    Rep. Grayson said the GOP's health policy was "Get better or die."  Many Republicans didn't like him saying it, but they secretly approved of the concept.

    Palin looked at the proposal to cover End of Life Counseling and said Obamacare would give us "Death Panels".

    Perhaps this manager is a Palin disciple that decided to abbreviate the Death Panel, to a single "Death Judge".  He/she found the worker unworthy of continued life, and recommended her discontinued existence.  

    Perfectly logical from a Conservative/Palinesque viewpoint.

    I'll put on my glasses.... and tell you how sweet your ass is. (w/ apologies to Señor Bega)

    by mHainds on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 08:59:52 AM PDT

  •  I was a shift manager, and therefore (4+ / 0-)
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    flowerfarmer, MaikeH, dconrad, Randtntx

    not much higher than the regular workers, and I always tried to foster comradeship. I'd beg and plead shamelessly if someone was calling in, but if there was a medical need on shift, I was all "deal with your business". Because a healthy worker is a productive worker. And one that won't quit on you.

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 09:02:14 AM PDT

    •  And sick workers make more sick workers. (2+ / 0-)
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      Andrew S, cyni

      I never wanted anyone coming in with a contagious illness, for reasons that seemed obvious, to me, even though when I had middle management gigs anyone calling in generally meant I had to take up their slack. It beats having half a dozen people sick!

  •  There will always be those who'll take the job. (2+ / 0-)
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    miango113, Batya the Toon

    Abuse will continue as long as people are willing to take it as normal.

  •  Cut it out. (3+ / 0-)

    We've all had sh*tty bosses.  That is not the issue.

    Workers need to make a lot more money.  That's a real issue.

    Workers need to have paid sick leave, maternity leave, etc.  That's a real issue.

    Workers need to have pay equity and equal opportunity/affirmative action programs.  That's a real issue.

    Workers need to have a workplace free of sexual harrassment.  That's a real issue.

    Workers need to have affordable, decent child care.  That's a real issue.

    Workers -- and everybody else -- need affordable healthcare not connected to their jobs.  That is a real issue.

    Jerk bosses who say insensitive things?  Yeah, that sucks, but the world is full of jerks, dickwads, scumbags, you name it, and many of them rise to the level of boss.  (Lots of them rise to the level of "lawyer," that's for sure.)  

  •  Ya know.... (4+ / 0-)

    Something has got to give with work conditions here in the good ol' US of A....
    The abuse of MacD employees is deplorable, but the abuse of lower paid employees pretty much everywhere is unacceptable.
    When did this happen, that if you're sick you don't get to call in sick and get better, ya know, like NOT contagious, without incurring penalties?  Especially handling food.  
    There's a policy at my place of employ that you get to call in sick, but you HAVE to use any vacation (if you have any vacation) time you may have for it, AND you get a demerit point.  Too many demerits and you're out the door....unless they like you.  And do not mention you're taking care of a sick kid...BIG no no.  I suppose we're lucky to have something pretending to be 'sick time', but it comes with lots of strings.

    I think, therefore I am........................... Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose....AKA Engine Nighthawk - don't even ask!

    by Lilyvt on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 09:13:43 AM PDT

  •  A Firing Offense (3+ / 0-)

    Was the manager fired?  If not, it shows a stunning lack of fairness (stop laughing) within McDonald's corporate structure.  I'm sure had a regular worker said such a thing to his boss, he would have been fired on the spot.

    •  Well if he keeps saying that kind of thing (0+ / 0-)

      it might actually end up being a literal firing offense as it is entirely possible that someone taking that manager's advice might decide to put a bullet in the manager's head before his or her own.  Even if that didn't happen trying to push someone to the point of suicide is going to cause other serious problems.

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 10:24:49 AM PDT

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  •  Is this a regular happening in our country? (0+ / 0-)

    This is awful.  Horrible, actually.  Just how much does this kind of thing happen?  

    What does that sign in the picture say, anyway?

    •  Every day, in every city (1+ / 0-)
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      People have no idea what their rights are, and if they do, they know they have nothing to prevent retaliation. So do their managers. Employee rights? Ha, good one. There's a reason even these people who have everything to lose have started going on strikes across the country. It has to do with a lot more than wages - notice how much things like "dignity" are mentioned.

      Is fheàrr fheuchainn na bhith san dùil

      by bull8807 on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 10:48:40 AM PDT

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      •  I know exactly what my rights are (1+ / 0-)
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        Tex Arcana

        But I've still worked off the clock, worked for less than minimum wage, worked overtime at regular pay. I worked at a gas station where we were expected to cover drive-offs (customers stealing gas) out of our own pockets- and I did it several times. If I didn't, they'd find some reason to get rid of me and find someone else who would- that's just how it is, and jobs around here are too few and far between to do anything but put up with it until you  can find something else. If , Republicans had their way, all of America would be like this- people so desperate for work they'll do whatever it takes, because something is better than nothing.

  •  LC, I always see you (0+ / 0-)

    posting stories about workplace issues and workers' rights. I've never taken the time to say it before, but thank you. Kudos to you, Laura Clawson.

    Tipped & rec'd.

    La majestueuse égalité des lois, qui interdit au riche comme au pauvre de coucher sous les ponts, de mendier dans les rues, et de voler du pain.

    by dconrad on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 10:49:10 AM PDT

  •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

    by annieli on Mon Mar 10, 2014 at 10:49:22 AM PDT

  •  When you see a manager abuse a worker (1+ / 0-)
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    you should report them to the corporate headquarters of the store and explain that you will not support a store that allows this to go on. I used to go to a Denny's where the manager was a richard. One day he went overboard in front of me, I called the headquarters and told them how offended I was at his behavior, how I had been a customer for many years and the waitresses were generally very good. I don't know if he got fired for sure, but I never saw the SOB there again.

  •  The Pro-Savery Party (0+ / 0-)

    wants workers to have no rights, so there is no dignity and no pay. If your pay is just barely enough to stay alive, well, that is what slaves got. The only difference between modern and past slaves, you can choose your master, but is that really freedom?

    Living in the nightmare reality of working in the oilfields of South and West Texas.

    by Incarnate on Tue Mar 11, 2014 at 06:57:31 AM PDT

  •  McDonalds (0+ / 0-)

    Sounds to me like the MANAGER needs a bullet in HIS/HER head. I'll bet that "manager" is a REPUBLIKKKAN! Sounds like the typical REPUBLIKKKAN mind set......"
    the only thing that matters is money in MY PORCKET. Forget the employees needs."

  •  Unfortunately, this is becoming normal, (1+ / 0-)
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    in alot of workplaces.  I worked for a cleaning company and often came to work sick, since not coming in meant no money made that day.  I saw others do it too.  We had a pregnant girl come in who was miscarrying.  I told her to go right to the hospital.  My boss got upset, not because she was miscarrying, but because we were then one person short.  No concern for the employee.  At other jobs I worked off the clock, told it was expected and if I wanted the job, I had to.

    •  NO UNIONS=This Sheis (0+ / 0-)

      Now do u get it why UNIONS should have a comeback!  Moving overseas was to avoid UNIONS and who benefited Congressmen who looked the other way for $$$$ like Ryan and other RepublKKKans when this relocation of whole industries, outsourcing, hiring P.T. and Temps when older Union Workers retired, ad nauseum!  I give the SUITS this: they are cunning, shrewd, rapacious and without any moral compunction about FAKING WORKERS!  This all started under Nixon and Kissinger's watch!  

    •  this has been normal for years now. (0+ / 0-)

      My motel maid job (1991) I quit because I couldn't produce a doctor's note to prove illness.  Even if I had been able to afford just the cab ride to the office at the edge of town, I still would have to pay the doctor...after I waited a week or two to get an appointment.  At which point, I'd have recovered from the illness and lost the job anyway because I hadn't produced a note soon enough.  My roommate's sister started miscarrying at her McDonald's job in the mid-nineties.  They wouldn't let her go home.  She quit then and there.  

  •  Tea Party Health Care (0+ / 0-)

    My dad was a Type 2, and so am I. As he aged, his blood glucose became increasingly difficult to manage. More than once, when his levels tanked he'd go into full tonic-clonic seizures and it took three EMTs to restrain him while the fourth dosed him with enough supplement to bring them back up to a safe level. Low blood glucose is life threatening. This woman needs to lawyer up.

  •  Here in Cali... (0+ / 0-)

    If you work at Micky D and don't plan on working sick.. you're soon going to be out of a job.  Health law says otherwise. Those that enforce the law, look the other way. If you eat at Micky D you have no clue.  
    Enjoy that Big Mac.

  •  MBA Approch to Human resources is inovative (0+ / 0-)

    The new MBA approach to Human Resource Management and Public Health are combined in new McDonald policies.

  •  It makes me want to throw up when I read things (1+ / 0-)
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    about fast food workers being made to work when they are sick. The thought of anyone spreading sick germs into food that thousands eat every day is truly disgusting. When are the greedy business owners going to sit up and listen to their workers, who are merely asking for what the bosses have? A chance to earn a decent living, give their children good educations and happy futures. It truly is very simple and not at all like brain surgery or rocket science. Do you suppose that the folks who got into the positions of power, i.e. these worker's bosses, are stupid??!!

  •  Boycott? (0+ / 0-)

    I wish we could all boycott lousy employers. Fast food, Walmart, whatever. But it would put a lot of slaves out of work.

  •  Support of a paid leave sick bill by (0+ / 0-)

    Rahm?  You're joking right?  

    "I'm not scared of anyone or anything, Angie. Isn't that the way life should be?" Jack Hawksmoor

    by skyounkin on Tue Mar 11, 2014 at 04:01:35 PM PDT

  •  Rahm won't support it. (0+ / 0-)

    As a founder of the DLC, he'll never do anything to ruffle the feathers of a corporate donor.

  •  Sick leave (0+ / 0-)

    Fire that fucking manager.

  •  This pattern of behavior on the behalf of (0+ / 0-)

    McDonald's, goes way back.  I was a manager trainee back in 69.  I had worked three consecutive 90 hour weeks.  One day, I was so tired I couldn't get up, and asked my girlfriend at the time, to call McDonald's and tell them that I wouldn't be in that day, that I was totally exhausted.  The response she got was to imply that I couldn't handle the job, that I must be shirking my job duties.  After three straight 90 hour weeks.  A friend of mine who they made the manager of a new store, worked four or five straight, 120 hour weeks.  McDonald's has never cared about their employees.  If you complain, you get fired.


    to buy a gun.  Or even a bullet.

  •  Advesarial Mgt Training began on Reagn's Watch (0+ / 0-)

    I worked for a major multinational corp for ten years.  Jack Welch the C.E.O. authored a book touting his mgmt style, which training all of his future and present mgr's attended during the 80's and later until he retired.  A distinctive change in their attitudes, behaviors, and conduct was noted by all of us in the Union after they returned from the training course which was an early immersion type program.  That training became the standard for every Corp and business throughout the U.S.  It produced arrogant, mean spirited, and confrontational SUITS.  They were encouraged to earn employees dislike and even hatred.  The more grievances the Mgr's had "earned" in their dealings with workers; the more promotions and pay raises granted by the DIV.HDQRS in Schenectady, N.Y.  The current climate against Unions and labor in general is a result of this indoctrination program and the attitudes fostered by Republicans in particular, their hero Reagan, whose political dealings with us regular folks (the ones who produced the goods and services from which they derive huge incomes) goes largely unnoticed or derided by the Average Amerikan oblivious to this obscenity.  The Voters either don't care or understand how the economy has been hijacked by these oligarchs and plutocrats! !  

  •  Voting Socialist from now to INFINITY! (0+ / 0-)

    From here to infinity this Nation has needed a multiparty system since it became dominated by 2 way back when!  It faking don't work and this is not a Democracy if it ever was, which is the illusion you folks have bought into!

  •  Responding to MacDonald managers (0+ / 0-)

    When a manager tells a worker to "put a bullet in your head" it is fitting and appropriate for the worker to respond "right after you put a bullet in your head." Idiots like the MacDonald manager are wasting precious air by breathing.

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