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On Thursday, Mark Zuckerberg the founder of social media giant, Facebook, publicly posted his issues with the NSA, on his own Facebook page:
"As the world becomes more complex and governments everywhere struggle, trust in the internet is more important today than ever.

The internet is our shared space. It helps us connect. It spreads opportunity. It enables us to learn. It gives us a voice. It makes us stronger and safer together.

To keep the internet strong, we need to keep it secure. That's why at Facebook we spend a lot of our energy making our services and the whole internet safer and more secure. We encrypt communications, we use secure protocols for traffic, we encourage people to use multiple factors for authentication and we go out of our way to help fix issues we find in other people's services.

The internet works because most people and companies do the same. We work together to create this secure environment and make our shared space even better for the world.

This is why I've been so confused and frustrated by the repeated reports of the behavior of the US government. When our engineers work tirelessly to improve security, we imagine we're protecting you against criminals, not our own government.

The US government should be the champion for the internet, not a threat. They need to be much more transparent about what they're doing, or otherwise people will believe the worst.

I've called President Obama to express my frustration over the damage the government is creating for all of our future. Unfortunately, it seems like it will take a very long time for true full reform.

So it's up to us -- all of us -- to build the internet we want. Together, we can build a space that is greater and a more important part of the world than anything we have today, but is also safe and secure. I'm committed to seeing this happen, and you can count on Facebook to do our part.

The N.S.A. responded in a statement Thursday:
“N.S.A. uses its technical capabilities only to support lawful and appropriate foreign intelligence operations, all of which must be carried out in strict accordance with its authorities,” the agency said. “Reports of indiscriminate computer exploitation operations are simply false.”

According to the New York times, "a White House spokeswoman confirmed that the president spoke with Mr. Zuckerberg on Wednesday night but declined further comment beyond the N.S.A.’s statement."

Many have issues with Zuckerberg. My admiration grew when I discovered he joined Bill Gates and Warren Buffet in The Giving Pledge. They donate over 50% of their profits to charity. In 2013, Mark Zuckerberg and his wife donated close to $1 Billion to charity. Some of that money went to Planned Parenthood. He is also known to stand up for such causes as immigration and education.

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  •  LMAO! (17+ / 0-)

    Says the guy who collects so much personal data about a person and sells it for his billions.

    GMAFB

  •  Zuckerberg Calls "Dibs" on Sum of All Human Data n (13+ / 0-)

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 04:28:11 PM PDT

  •  It must be pretty bad for Zuckeberg to post this (14+ / 0-)

    And the NSA must be sucking in all the FB data and/or metadata by backdoors or router tapping or who knows what else in a way that it's obvious to FB techies.

    Obviously the NSA lies and is sharing this data with the FBI, IRS, DEA and others as we now know based on Snowden's whistleblowing as detailed in the NYT and bobswern's recent diary.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 04:40:04 PM PDT

  •  Gummint meddlin' in private bidness (4+ / 0-)

    "You can't collect it, that data is OURS, Mr. President!".

    Shall we go? Yes, let's go.

    by whenwego on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 04:43:03 PM PDT

  •  Mark Zuckerberg is proving himself to be a (2+ / 0-)
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    progressive young man and is beginning to stand up for what's right.

    He is a multi-billionaire, and has used much of his money to help others, unlike many in the 1%.  

    Regardless of what people think, what he is doing now, going up against the NSA, can only be a positive thing or us all.

    "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

    by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 04:46:01 PM PDT

  •  Reading between the lines (2+ / 0-)
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    I've called President Obama to express my frustration over the damage the government is creating for all of our future. Unfortunately, it seems like it will take a very long time for true full reform.
    Translation: don't expect any help from there.
    So it's up to us -- all of us -- to build the internet we want. Together, we can build a space that is greater and a more important part of the world than anything we have today, but is also safe and secure. I'm committed to seeing this happen, and you can count on Facebook to do our part.
    OK, so is FB going to help us get easy to use, universal end-to-end AES encryption? The telecoms will fight this bitterly, because it will break deep packet sniffing and hence their non-neutral Internet dreams.

     

    American Presidents: 43 men, 0 women. Ready for Hillary

    by atana on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 05:07:57 PM PDT

  •  I know they think it is their job to lie (3+ / 0-)
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    “Reports of indiscriminate computer exploitation operations are simply false.”
    But really, couldn't they be better at it?  Maybe they should privatize the professional liars for the government.  That way the lies would at least be somewhat believable.  And if they were found out, the government could fire the contractor and bring in a new group of liars and start all over.  

    Jesus!  Do I have to think of everything?!?

  •  What I find very amusing, is that most of Mark (0+ / 0-)

    Zuckerberg's worst critics, bash him on Facebook. They use his platform for their causes, they push their products on his platform, and many make money posting articles on his platform, causing page views and thus income. Yet the same people want to tear the him down.

    It's never made any sense to me.

    Yes, Zuckerberg makes billions in business as many companies do. The difference is - he gives back.

    No one is forcing anyone to buy ads and no one is forcing anyone to use Facebook.

    It's free. And it's allowed billions of people to express themselves, their beliefs, their causes, and their products … to billions of other people around the world. It's free - and it's freaking amazing.

    "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

    by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 05:54:30 PM PDT

    •  FREE (2+ / 0-)
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      in the same way that the creepy dude at the end of the block gives out free candy.

      Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

      by benamery21 on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 06:01:52 PM PDT

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      •  How's that? You're comparing Zuckerberg (0+ / 0-)

        to a pedophile? Yes, it's free. You don't have to pay to use Facebook. You don't have to pay to use Google, Twitter, YouTube and they make money from ads…

        "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

        by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 06:23:15 PM PDT

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        •  No, the creepy dude is just a really NICE guy (2+ / 0-)
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          I'm pointing out that there is no such thing as a free lunch.  He's getting something of value from users, and the fact that the exchange isn't in greenbacks, doesn't mean it's "free."  In fact, it's much more troubling than a simple cash transaction.

          Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

          by benamery21 on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 06:54:15 PM PDT

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          •  The users of Facebook do not have to pay to use (0+ / 0-)

            Facebook. That is called - free.

            "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

            by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 07:06:47 PM PDT

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            •  How many legs does a dog have (0+ / 0-)

              if you call the tail a leg?

              Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

              by benamery21 on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 07:13:03 PM PDT

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              •  ? (0+ / 0-)

                "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

                by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 07:15:25 PM PDT

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                •  Sorry (0+ / 0-)

                  Rhetorical question, I should know better than to go hillbilly on DKos.

                  The correct answer is four, it doesn't matter what you call the tail, it ain't a leg.

                  Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

                  by benamery21 on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 07:22:05 PM PDT

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                  •  It still makes no sense to me. Bottom line - I (0+ / 0-)

                    give people the benefit of the doubt until they prove me wrong. Though I'm in the minority, I believe Mark Zuckberg is a decent guy. Not perfect - decent. I think he does not deserve some of the hate that continuously  gets thrown at him, but:

                    "Fair is where you go ride the pony."
                    How'd you like that one? Brilliant yes? A songwriter friend wrote it and I used it on my daughter from the time she was 4 or 5. She never knew what to do with it.

                    Back to Mark:

                    I've even thrown some hate at Mark, every time he makes an aesthetic change.

                    "If it aint now broke - don't fix it".
                    Back to dogs -
                    "No one kicks a dead dog."
                    Sooooo, as long as he is a multibillionaire, no matter how much good he does, he will still have haters. Because fair is where… oh already use that one. I'm still working not he legs and tail. Is that like:

                    Or like…

                    "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig"
                    "Wherever you go - there you are"

                    "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

                    by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 09:39:05 PM PDT

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            •  Of course we pay (1+ / 0-)
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              We don't pay cash. But we give Facebook something valuable in exchange for the service they provide to us. In this case, it's data about our everyday habits, and it's immensely valuable to Facebook.

              And unlike broadcast TV, in which can truly watch shows passively, skip the ads, and not alter our consumer behaviors at all due to the ads that are sent to us, the very act of engaging in Facebook gives the company information that they can use.

              I'm actually okay with that. I use the service almost every day, and I enjoy the interactions with friends and family that take place there. But I do so knowing fully well that my actions are enriching Facebook. They're getting something of value from me. The service isn't free of charge.

        •  It's not free anymore (0+ / 0-)

          You have to pay a dollar to send a message directly to the inbox of anyone you're not already friends with on Facebook. If you don't pay, the message goes in the person's "Other" folder and they don't receive a notification about it. Unless he or she knows to go look for it, the recipient will never read it.

          Is fheàrr fheuchainn na bhith san dùil

          by bull8807 on Sat Mar 15, 2014 at 12:16:20 PM PDT

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        •  The Key Point: You Don't Have To Use Them At All (0+ / 0-)

          Now, where do I sign up for another government that does all the useful stuff but without the Big Brother snooping. (The "elect somebody different" method doesn't seem to be working.)

          On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

          by stevemb on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 08:48:04 AM PDT

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    •  Poor, poor, misunderstood billionaire who (2+ / 0-)
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      merely makes money selling every bit of data you've ever entered, or even thought of entering.

      •  One of my comments did not go through so (0+ / 0-)

        if this is a repeat I apologize.

        Mark Z. is not playing victim. I wouldn't call him a poor, misunderstood billionaire, though nobody kicks a dead dog, as they say.

        He gives back the majority of his profits. He stands up for immigration and education. He doesn't charge for Facebook.

        And as said earlier - no one is forced to use Facebook. No one is forced to put their personal info on their pages. And most everyone knows it is a business.

        Lastly, he is standing up to the NSA. Many would agree that takes a lot of courage. Some have even been banned from the country for doing so…

        "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

        by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 07:26:20 PM PDT

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        •  "He doesn't charge for Facebook." (1+ / 0-)
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          Because YOU are the product.

          •  I am not a victim. Like many, I have taken (0+ / 0-)

            advantage of Facebook. It's a win - win.

            Daily Kos makes money from the ads placed in our diaries which are mostly written for free. They use most of that money, to do good things and keep the site moving.

            Mark Z. uses a good amount of Facebook money - for good things. Again, he had given over $1billion to charity in the last two years.

            I used both platforms to reach hundreds of thousands of people about the causes I believe in. I never was able to do that before without having to pay, so I'm more than grateful to both.

            The both give from what they receive. I don't find problems with that.

            "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

            by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 09:57:54 PM PDT

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  •  This is the line that jumped out to me in reading. (3+ / 0-)
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    Unfortunately, it seems like it will take a very long time for true full reform.
    Like climate change mitigations, like poverty, unemployment, and wealth redistribution, like systemic corruption in government, media, education, trade, et al.

    They're all just a century away.........

    "It is not all books that are as dull as their readers." --Thoreau's Journal

    by blueoasis on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 06:23:13 PM PDT

  •  "So it's up to us -- all of us -- (2+ / 0-)
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    ...to build the internet we want. That internet is an internet where people can spy on each other free from government interference," Mr. Zuckerberg continued.

    Non futuis apud Boston

    by kenlac on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 06:55:35 PM PDT

  •  If there were a god in heaven (1+ / 0-)
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    then Zuckerberg would share the same circle of hell with the NSA goons.

    Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

    by corvo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 07:05:55 PM PDT

    •  Oh my goodness… I'm alone on this one, I see. (0+ / 0-)

      Mark told me would happen. I said "No, Mark, people are good."

      "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

      by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 09:44:51 PM PDT

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      •  seriously...you know Mark..??..tell him... (2+ / 0-)
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        no 'like' for ALEC and XL pipeline supporters...I'm sure you've already discussed this with him.

        We are not broke, we are being robbed. ~Shop Kos Katalogue~

        by Glen The Plumber on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 10:20:35 PM PDT

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        •  Sorry, I was playing. No, I don't know Mark. (0+ / 0-)

          I would love to him and his wife. She is a pediatrician.

          In your same ALEC link by Salon:

          As the Beast points out, although rare, this is not the first instance of ALEC working with traditionally liberal organizations — especially on issues like privacy which span the liberal/conservative libertarian divide:

          John Stephenson, who runs the task force on communications and technology… cit[ed] ALEC’s work with the ACLU on issues such as data privacy and limiting the ability of police to search mobile devices.

          I'm not a fan of ALEC, and there are always two sides to a story.

          As for XL Pipeline, in your aforementioned article, it stats Zuckerberg and other social media 'rock stars' invested in Fwd.us for to help with immigration reform. - not to promote pipelines.

          Facebook rejected the ad, saying it violated company policy because it prominently used Zuckerberg's image.
          We need to be sure, in our liberal writing and telling, to tell and read the whole story which they did, but they clearly emphasized the more sensational.

          "If it bleeds, it reads."

          "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

          by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 10:51:23 PM PDT

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          •  But of course it's natural, and I am guilty of (0+ / 0-)

            showing bias, even when I report what I believe to be facts.

            Liberals are known to be against big money, the ugly 1%. But we forget not all the 1% are greedy and corrupt. Many have done great things with their fortunes.

            "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

            by Leslie Salzillo on Thu Mar 13, 2014 at 10:55:06 PM PDT

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  •  I think the NSA's statement has a few typos. (0+ / 0-)
    “N.S.A. uses its technical capabilities only to support lawful and appropriate foreign intelligence operations, all of which must be carried out in strict accordance with its authorities,” the agency said. “Reports of indiscriminate computer exploitation operations are simply false.”
    It should say:
    “N.S.A. uses its technical capabilities only to support unlawful and inappropriate foreign intelligence operations, all of which must not be carried out in strict accordance with its authorities,” the agency said. “Reports of indiscriminate computer exploitation operations are completely true.”
  •  I appreciate this diary (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm not a big fan of Zuckerburg. I also don't think Snowden is a hero. You have given me some things to think about. That's what this site is all about.

    •  Thank you matador. I appreciate that. I found (0+ / 0-)

      myself doing cartwheels trying to tell folks that Zuckerberg is not the bad guy so many seem to think he is… when all I need to do is present what I know to be true. I can't control how others feel. (Oh, but I try sometimes.) :)

      "In this world, hate has never yet dispelled hate. Only love can dispel hate." ~ Buddha

      by Leslie Salzillo on Fri Mar 14, 2014 at 09:08:35 PM PDT

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  •  Article (0+ / 0-)

    Yo Mark, Snowden is NOT being pardoned! He lives with Putin now! And please don't think you are bigger than life with your FACEBOOK success! Please don't!

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