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The Executive Director of the Texas Republican Party and Republican gubernatorial candidate Greg Abbott ally Beth Cubriel appeared on YNN’s Capitol Tonight program. Cubriel was there to explain the GOP’s alternative to a Texas Lilly Ledbetter Act.

It should be noted that Texas women make 82 cents for every dollar a man makes. When asked about it, the answer Cubriel gave was true to form. "Men are better negotiators. I would encourage women instead of pursuing the courts for action to become better negotiators."

Cubriel's answer is your classic Republican response. If you are harmed by externalities, it’s your fault. If you are harmed by systemic defects in our laws, it is your fault. You are on your own. It is no accident that this followed Cari Christman’s response to a similar question when she implied women are too busy to be concerned with equal pay.

Wendy Davis campaign spokeswoman Rebecca Acuna’s response to Cubriel’ s remark was necessarily swift. "Greg Abbott's ally's defense of his opposition to equal pay for women is out-of-touch and offensive. Texans deserve a governor like Wendy Davis who will fight for economic fairness for all hardworking families instead of Greg Abbott's business as usual hostility to fair pay legislation."

When a party calls special session intent on taking control of a woman’s body, there is a problem. When a party refuses freely available already paid for healthcare coverage for thousands of women, there is a problem. When a party passes laws that effectively leave women without a reliable avenue for reproductive services, there is a problem. When a party forces invasive procedures like the vaginal ultrasound on women, there is a problem.

If one does not acknowledge they have a problem with women issues, they will continue to provide the same narrative. They will continue their abuse of women.

Originally posted to ProgressiveLiberal on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 02:11 PM PDT.

Also republished by Houston Area Kossacks, Turning Texas: Election Digest, and Daily Kos.

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  •  Hmm, I know several (2+ / 0-)
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    TexMex, BlackSheep1

    professional women who negotiate deals, trades and hammer out difficult contracts on a regular basis for their firms.  These are usually 6 and 7 figure deals.  None of those women believe/know they are paid the same as male coworkers who handle similar levels of responsibility.  Pretty sure they are right about it, too.  This is Texas, after all.

    P.S. - not to start a storm, but that's why I came back from maternity leave after 2 and 3 weeks off with our children.  That was 25+ years ago.  

    The truth always matters.

    by texasmom on Tue Mar 18, 2014 at 03:26:52 PM PDT

    •  I returned after 2 weeks too with all of mine (0+ / 0-)

      except my special needs child who was in the hospital for several months after birth.  With him, my husband and I alternated weeks.

    •  Funny thing for an old guy maybe, but after a (1+ / 0-)
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      OHdog

      long career there is one woman I'd put in contention for the best executive I've ever known personally and another, a naval officer, that is one of the few officers I personally knew at the time that I'd feel comfortable being on her ship in combat. Both had what used to be called "guts" and the brains to apply to that integrity. Meanwhile the "Tailhook" mentality and responsibility avoidance was rife among male officers I dealt with at the time.

      One characteristic of both, one I felt shared by my early superiors that were mostly WW II combat veterans, was they had your back. They did not stab people in the back to gain personal or career advantage—though woe to you if you did or if you caused disaster because you just plain slacked. They both had and required integrity and high performance and it showed in the people working for them and in how things went when working with them.

      In my late career when slacking, lazy thinking and back stabbing seemed to be a disease among the younger ones these two, both younger, stood out.

      The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

      by pelagicray on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 08:02:47 AM PDT

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  •  Republican sugar daddy husband.... (4+ / 0-)
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    She doesn't have to care about her salary being equal cause SHE gets plenty!

    http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/...

    the PAC’s president is Randy Cubriel, an Austin-based lawyer and lobbyist who served as Cornyn’s traveling aide on the 2002 campaign. He also worked for Cornyn at the state Attorney General’s office and later as a U.S. Senate aide.

    she was attached to the gov teat  as field director.
    His wife, Beth Cubriel, now executive director of the Texas GOP, has a long relationship with Cornyn, too. She worked on his first campaign for attorney general and was at his side once he took office. She was a top aide in his 2002 and 2008 Senate campaigns, and served as state field director for his Senate office, overseeing staff and constituent services in Texas.

    http://therealwendy.com/...

  •  Texas senate committee (1+ / 0-)
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    held a hearing on analyzing Texas' advances in women's health care

    just saying.

  •  Way to win over women GOP... (8+ / 0-)

    call them stupid.  Yeah, that will work.

    It's all a Communist PLOT!

    by quiet in NC on Sat Mar 22, 2014 at 08:17:31 PM PDT

  •  Does this Silly Woman (2+ / 0-)
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    Actually believe Men, Women, Kids, the vast majority of whom have no professional credentials that allow them work where contract negotiation is common, get to "negotiate" with the employers most count on for employment?

    Employers like Wal-Mart, Fast Food joints, Non-Union Retail Outlets such as supermarkets or light manufacturing, etc etc do not negotiate. They don't have to because of the labor surpluses government has allowed to be created by outsourcing gives employers the advantage over any potential new hires. Even in the best of times, the Fed's monetary policy is used to prevent full employment. It is the unstated policy of the US Government to prevent any situation where the power of the working people exceeds that of the employers. During the last "Boom", the dot com madness which was a great example of just how unbelievably wealthy this country is when so much money was tossed at questionable investments it actually caused full employment to almost occur. As it was, the demand for workers overcame Fed policy and got the unemployment rate under 4%. The Fed will throw the brakes on hard and tighten up the money supply when employment even looks like it might exceed 95% and it did back in the 90's. It took 10 rate hikes, iirc, to bring the unemployment rate back to 5%.

    Negotiation presumes an equality between the two sides. Each has something the other wants or needs and in order to obtain whatever that may be, the sides engage in negotiation. If one side has a great advantage over the other, there is no need for negotiation because that advantage negates any power one side may have had as an equal and puts that weaker side at the mercy of the stronger, which is exactly what all Puke policies (even now that they are approaching complete madness 110% of the time) were geared to yield- cheap and powerless labor. One has to wonder how a rich Repuke woman like this can spout such drivel when it's obvious that all Puke policy is aimed at preventing negotiation by anyone, male or female. I mean, doesn't she know that? Like all the drivel that Pukes repeat, this person and her "thoughts" are a complete insult to any one's intelligence, except rank and file Pukes, I suppose.

    Personally, I just want to slug her.  

    "My one hobby is maintaining a Democracy. If you get these 500,000 soldiers advocating anything smelling of Fascism, I am going to get 500,000 more and lick the hell out of you and we'll have a real war right here at home. - General Smedley Butler, 1933

    by Dave925 on Sat Mar 22, 2014 at 08:24:57 PM PDT

    •  I think she's silly, but I don't want to hit her. (1+ / 0-)
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      That's uncool.

      Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

      by commonmass on Sat Mar 22, 2014 at 08:35:24 PM PDT

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      •  An expression of rage (0+ / 0-)

        against these people who would gladly see is all killed.

        The real question is why you wouldn't? Woman or not, those who wish me dead, well, I don't take real kindly to.

        "My one hobby is maintaining a Democracy. If you get these 500,000 soldiers advocating anything smelling of Fascism, I am going to get 500,000 more and lick the hell out of you and we'll have a real war right here at home. - General Smedley Butler, 1933

        by Dave925 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 12:16:52 AM PDT

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        •  Oh, for fuck's sake... (2+ / 0-)
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          The woman said women should learn to negotiate better, not everybody must die. Lighten the hell up.

          It's all a Communist PLOT!

          by quiet in NC on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 12:39:15 AM PDT

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          •  Really... (0+ / 0-)

            and there is plenty of research that women don't negotiate for themselves very well.  They tend to undervalue themselves compared to men.

            I think that management is well overpaid anyway, so I really don't care if women in those positions don't get as much as the guys.  If anything, pay rates at that level should be cut and lower levels should be raised.

            The banks have a stranglehold on the political process. Mike Whitney

            by dfarrah on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 09:50:13 AM PDT

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            •  Why do they do that? (0+ / 0-)

              Because they've been told their entire lives that they're not as good as men in business (or math, or sports, etc etc.) So many women do devalue themselves, and many employers, both men and women, devalue female employees and pay them less than comparable male employees. The solution to this is twofold: first, teach girls from the beginning that they're just as good as the boys (basic feminism); and second, pass a law like Lilly Ledbetter that makes up for that devaluing by legislation.

          •  So, women have only themselves to blame (1+ / 0-)
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            for their lower pay rates. You apparently don't disagree.

            Meanwhile, I disagree and get hide rated.

            The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. -- John Kenneth Galbraith

            by richardak on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 12:31:48 PM PDT

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    •  You were doing good until... (0+ / 0-)

      the last line.  Why did you do that?

      It's all a Communist PLOT!

      by quiet in NC on Sat Mar 22, 2014 at 08:36:39 PM PDT

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      •  See Above (0+ / 0-)

        "My one hobby is maintaining a Democracy. If you get these 500,000 soldiers advocating anything smelling of Fascism, I am going to get 500,000 more and lick the hell out of you and we'll have a real war right here at home. - General Smedley Butler, 1933

        by Dave925 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 12:17:20 AM PDT

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    •  What??? Okay first someone uses the word whore (2+ / 0-)
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      quiet in NC, hmi

      and now someone thinks it is okay to hit a woman...ever!

      •  Those comments really should be hidden. nt (2+ / 0-)
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        Sue B, Bailey2001

        It's all a Communist PLOT!

        by quiet in NC on Sat Mar 22, 2014 at 11:24:13 PM PDT

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        •  Oh yes because as we all know (1+ / 0-)
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          The cure for speech you disagree with is to suppress it.

          You should be ashamed.

          "My one hobby is maintaining a Democracy. If you get these 500,000 soldiers advocating anything smelling of Fascism, I am going to get 500,000 more and lick the hell out of you and we'll have a real war right here at home. - General Smedley Butler, 1933

          by Dave925 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 12:20:43 AM PDT

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      •  Oh for ghawd's sakes (4+ / 0-)
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        We are fighting against these peopel for the very survival of mankind and you are worried about friggin' words?

        See, this is what's wrong with progressives, liberals, whatever and cause people to perceive us as silly. That's right, if we stood up and like Harry S Truman threaten to "poke people in the nose" we might just get some respect. And some votes. No one wants to vote for the word police.

        "My one hobby is maintaining a Democracy. If you get these 500,000 soldiers advocating anything smelling of Fascism, I am going to get 500,000 more and lick the hell out of you and we'll have a real war right here at home. - General Smedley Butler, 1933

        by Dave925 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 12:19:42 AM PDT

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        •  You forgot to add "Hitler!". (0+ / 0-)

          It's all a Communist PLOT!

          by quiet in NC on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 12:42:48 AM PDT

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          •  Oh Har Har (0+ / 0-)

            G'head trivialize what these clowns are up to. G'head.

            "My one hobby is maintaining a Democracy. If you get these 500,000 soldiers advocating anything smelling of Fascism, I am going to get 500,000 more and lick the hell out of you and we'll have a real war right here at home. - General Smedley Butler, 1933

            by Dave925 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 12:44:27 AM PDT

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            •  we all have a lot of thoughts running around in (0+ / 0-)

              our heads--some really should be left in the thought bubble, (like violent and hateful thoughts) because words proliferate your violent thoughts, and do we really need any more hate and violence?  These diaries point out unconsciousness in the world to make us aware, not to make us angry.  Light is the best disinfectant.

              •  Thank you (2+ / 0-)
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                Portia Elm, OHdog

                Instead of how the others got their pants in a wad over a pretty common sentiment, you actually took the time (as I did to rebut the silly woman republican) to present why you disagree with my expressing a bit of a violent thought, thoughts we all have from time to time that are never acted on.

                There's nothing silly about that and I respect you for it. The others? Not so much.

                "My one hobby is maintaining a Democracy. If you get these 500,000 soldiers advocating anything smelling of Fascism, I am going to get 500,000 more and lick the hell out of you and we'll have a real war right here at home. - General Smedley Butler, 1933

                by Dave925 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 12:12:16 PM PDT

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      •  One more thing to Y'all (1+ / 0-)
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        You know, because someone expresses a desire to do something has no bearing on whether they would actually do it you know. The willingness some folks have around here to think the very worst of those in the struggle over words and phrases is worse than silly. It's repression and is another tool of the oppressors that forces us to censor ourselves.

        I'll have none of that. Perhaps you should real a diary where the subject pulled no punches on his critique of another wing nut who I'd dearly love to punch as well (and let me spell it out, shall I?) and never will.

        Charlie Pierce's Rant Against Kristol

        And funny how Pierce is uniformly praised for his rant without even one respondent suffering an attack of the vapors over language and thoughts expressed. Where were you guys Friday?

        "My one hobby is maintaining a Democracy. If you get these 500,000 soldiers advocating anything smelling of Fascism, I am going to get 500,000 more and lick the hell out of you and we'll have a real war right here at home. - General Smedley Butler, 1933

        by Dave925 on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 12:43:08 AM PDT

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    •  We know this is Republican policy (0+ / 0-)

      because when Democrats are in power, the pay difference disappears.

  •  men are better negotiators but (1+ / 0-)
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    isthat a social good?

  •  What is the matter with men like Abbott (1+ / 0-)
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    and even further, what is the matter with women like Cubriel?

    Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

    by commonmass on Sat Mar 22, 2014 at 08:32:34 PM PDT

  •  When a woman does the same job (6+ / 0-)

    as her male counterpart why is there any question she not be paid equally?  The comments about women's need to be better negotiators is rubbish.

    The untold tragedy of Lilly Ledbetter's story is it didn't stop  with her wages.  Her retirement pension and her social security benefits were less for the very reason she earned less due to management's discrimination.

  •  So lets negotiate (2+ / 0-)
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    Since there are so many male Republicans, how about if they get out there and be negotiators (leaders) for better pay for women who do the same work as men? Plus those who do work that men refuse to do. Plus go home to their families and do at least 60% of the house/family work.  

  •  Right outta the shute, going to law is negotiating (3+ / 0-)
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    it's a tactical/strategic move frequently used by corporations to drive smaller opposition off the field of battle.

    Whatever pejorative you attach to whatshername, she's obviously standing on personally privileged ground, which she's careful not to explicate.  Dishonest is as charitable as I can manage.

    If you don't have a seat at the table, you're probably on the menu.

    by CarolinNJ on Sat Mar 22, 2014 at 10:57:56 PM PDT

  •  Rethugs Have Sh*t for Brains & Morals to Match. (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, RhodeIslandAspie

    The self-named Party of Stupid & Offensive never disappoints.

  •  Let's extrapolate. (0+ / 0-)

    Maybe the reason fast food workers are paid so little, by this same logic, is that the people who take these jobs aren't good at negotiating, and if they were, they could get sporadic raises. Let's just imagine a McDonald's worker of five years asking to sit down with the manager and negotiate a raise, and some benefits.

    And maybe back in the days of slavery, those who were enslaved could have bettered themselves by being better negotiators. Or being better at office politics.

    And later on, Jim Crow may have been a result of African-Americans not being better negotiators

    Negotiating is a joke when one side holds all the cards, and is willing to play them hard. A stagnant economy, laws and customs which favor the bosses, and workers who are taught the art of self-hatred all add up to a rigged ballgame.

    Just another underemployed IT professional computer geek.

    by RhodeIslandAspie on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 07:11:32 AM PDT

  •  Open Casting Call: (0+ / 0-)

    Anyone who can offer a persuasive reason to vote for ANY Republican.

    Male or female.

    Must be willing to speak on-camera.

    Must be willing to face widespread ridicule, debunking.

    Contact RNC or Koch Enterprises for compensation details.

  •  what kind of women (0+ / 0-)

    identify with the GOPtea?

    gender traitors - man coulter and this one come to mind. They've got the "little woman" complex that they were taught at an early age in their "devout" families.

    "Please proceed, Governor"

    by portlandzoo on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 07:49:04 AM PDT

  •  If those damn women had just gone back to keeping (0+ / 0-)

    house after the big war, forgotten about building ships and planes and making things run, and been happy to make do with household money allowances men would be making living wages. (And if those damn black people had kept picking cotton and sawing logs and serving their superiors as slaves some would be living high on the hog with lots less cash!)

    Yeah, the TP/GOP message is social Luddite. Smash equal opportunity, convert some into serfdom, go back to ole Bible thumping religion and America will prosper.

    The reality is they are like anchors hung on rocks when the ship is trying to sail.

    The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

    by pelagicray on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 07:50:35 AM PDT

  •  I've lost count (0+ / 0-)

    at the staggering amount of people of all walks of life the GOP has offended and degraded.

  •  This ignorant shit just pisses me off. (0+ / 0-)

    "Onward through the fog!" - Oat Willie

    by rocksout on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 09:32:46 AM PDT

  •  Women need to get out and vote (0+ / 0-)

    There is truth in what was said. The GOP is not going to negotiate for or help women. If women want a better outcome, they need to fight for it and all get out and vote.

    If they don't, no one can do that for them. And yes it will be their fault if they don't put forth the effort.

  •  It never ceases to amaze (0+ / 0-)

    that hardly a day goes by without some GOPer coming out with a stunningly stupid remark.  Is there a handbook?  Just because she hasn't/won't/can't negotiate doesn't give her permission to broad-brush all women.

    Whatta twit!

  •  Republican logic is bizzare. Blame the victim, (0+ / 0-)

    then claim victim-hood so you can blame someone else. Do they have any functioning synapses? Do they have a clue how stupid they look...and are? Ans: no.

    I think that Republicanism is revealing itself as a personality disorder, not so much an ideology." -- Naomi Klein

    by AllanTBG on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 03:33:36 PM PDT

  •  The republican business guys are primative tribal (0+ / 0-)

    authoritarian male leadership oriented. Females in the same positions are too. Recent study analyzing which business proposals got financial backing showed those with a male name attached were way more likely to get approval for funding than with a female name attached even the very same proposal. And among the males delivering the proposals in person or with a picture attached to the written proposal, the men who were judged to be better loooking had an edge over average loooking guys. It's all "home coming king going to the star quarterback" mentality and that is American business today.

    Life is just a bowl of Cherries, that stain your hands and clothes and have pits that break your teeth.

    by OHdog on Sun Mar 23, 2014 at 03:48:08 PM PDT

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