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Eric Cantor (R-VA) speaks at the Values Voter Summit, 2011.
The word's getting out: Republicans are floundering on that whole "replace" thing when it comes to "repeal and replace" Obamacare. Politico:
Here’s the dirty secret about the House Republicans’ efforts to replace Obamacare: They haven’t even decided if they will hold a vote.
That's hardly a secret, but never mind.
Republicans aren’t even convinced they will find consensus on any specific set of new health care bills. The ideas they’re discussing—the ability to buy insurance across state lines, wider use of health savings accounts and cutting federal regulations—are the same principles they have kicked around since 2009. But the party is not much closer to finding a proposal—or set of proposals—that would garner enough Republican support to pass the House.

Not to mention, some of the policies the GOP is considering—including state-based high-risk pools—already exist and don’t work very well. Endorsement of these policies by the House Republican Conference could leave Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and his leadership team open to heavy political fire from the White House and Hill Democrats.

There are no new viable, workable policy ideas among Republicans. All they can do is rehash the same old stuff they've been talking about for years. That's been clear since Republicans took the House and have been able to do nothing but vote on abortion, repeal, tax cuts to the rich and to shut the government down. That's been clear to anyone who has been paying attention for the last four years, except for the traditional media which is too vested in the idea that the Republicans are somehow a legitimate part of government.

We're told that Cantor has "committed the party to a vote and, behind the scenes, is driving House Republicans in that direction," but his deputy chief of staff admits, “Is it one bill? Is it a series of bills? Nothing has been really been discussed on that in any substance." Gee, could that be because there is no substance?

We should thank Eric Cantor, I suppose, for continuing to push here. Because every time he makes a promise about that brilliant plan that's going to be coming any time now, he reinforces the fact that they got nuthin'.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 10:03 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (25+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 10:03:20 AM PDT

  •  one recalls that there was a Mitt Romney plan (9+ / 0-)

    used in MA, maybe the GOP could model one after that

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

    by annieli on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 10:10:24 AM PDT

    •  see:hell freezing over (3+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      annieli, JeffW, JBL55

      See:them gnaw their own  limbs off

      I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

      by JML9999 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 10:15:35 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  This the inane trap they've set for themselves (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Mr MadAsHell

      Even Romney had to repudiate Romneycare because the RWNJ had renamed it Obamacare.  And if it has Obama's name on it, it has to be some communist MauMau plot.

      They might be all for the 2nd amendment, but on health care, they are simply out of ammo.

    •  Obamacare is the Republican Health Care Plan (2+ / 0-)
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      Mr MadAsHell, runfastandwin

      Democrats wanted a single payer system. The Repubs have no alternative because President Obama adopted their health care plan. Romneycare = Obamacare

    •  One Reality that republicans have to deal with (0+ / 0-)

      are the provisions that even the tea-publicans like in Obamacare
      -No more pre-existing conditions
      -No more life time caps
      -Young teens on parents plan etc etc.
      -The tricky issue now is, how do they bash Obamacare and still want some of it's provisions?
      Now onwards in this nation, no health policy could ever be viable without incorporating these guarantees. That much is the greatest achievement of Obamacare...and the GOP knows this and the  much maligned mandate is the pivot of this compromise called Obamacare.
      Yet they GOP want to pretend they can craft a viable  mandate-free policy...LOL

      "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

      by tuma on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 01:44:27 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  I never can understand (8+ / 0-)

    why they think most Americans can find 1000's of extra dollars for those HSA's.   That is the most infuriating part of the ideas they have.   Most of us are paycheck to paycheck.  

    January 1, 2014 - I will again be an "insured" cancer survivor-thank you Pres. Obama!!!!!

    by ArtemisBSG on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 10:11:39 AM PDT

    •  They also think that if you want a job ... (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Gentle Giant, Mr MadAsHell

      ... all you have to do is ask for some start-up money from the mater and the pater.

      •  yeah. $50,000 should do it. (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        JBL55

        Hello mudder
        hello fadder
        send some cash to
        Camp Granada

        When I was just there
        taking whizzes
        I deicided to
        Start a business

        When I looked
        Into the future
        Didn't want to
        be a moocher

        Even though it
        might seem funny
        I still think I'll
        need some money

        So mummy, daddy,
        Get out your checkbooks
        Send it to me
        Like in the textbooks

        Once it gets here
        I'll be rollling
        My own employees
        I'll be controlling

        Fifty thousand
        ought to do it
        But mommy, daddy
        if you can't send it,
        Then just screw it.

    •  Plus, their plan for everything else? (0+ / 0-)

      More savings accounts!

      Retirement, college education, buying a home - just take advantage of their numerous savings accounts!

      But like you said, how?  Good jobs scarce, real earnings declining, they want to undo the safety net, and we still have money left over to save for all these things?  

      Huh?  A plan by the 1% for the 1%.

      The most violent element in society is ignorance.

      by Mr MadAsHell on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 02:31:47 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  When even Politco is saying that (5+ / 0-)

    there is no there there in your proposal, you might want to rethink your "strategery".

    With the Decision Points Theater, the George W. Bush Presidential Library becomes the very first Presidential Library to feature a Fiction Section.

    by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 10:12:04 AM PDT

    •  And yet (and this is depressing) (0+ / 0-)

      it appears the Pubs could win big in 2014.

      •  If only . . . (1+ / 0-)
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        Theodore J Pickle

        If only there was some form of mass communication, where people were employed to ask questions and get answers from elected officials.

        But, sadly, we go into the election with the society we have, not the society we want. So all the Republican candidates can just spin out a line of bullshit about what a terrific plan they have to "repeal" "Obamacare" and nobody will ask them the first thing about it.

        Well, except for some shrill, very unserious people. And we know quite well to ignore them.

  •  It's the vision thing nt (2+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, chrississippi

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 10:12:58 AM PDT

    •  Vision thing (2+ / 0-)
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      JML9999, JeffW

      "25 whores in the room next door.
      25 floors and I need more."

      Oh Sorry I thought you were referring to the song.

      Um yeah the GOP vision thing for healthcare makes about as much sense as the song.    

      This is your world These are your people You can live for yourself today Or help build tomorrow for everyone -8.75, -8.00

      by DisNoir36 on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 10:25:21 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  They are just stalling for time. (4+ / 0-)

    As soon as Obama's gone, they will rename the ACA something like FreedomCare and claim they passed it in 2005.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 10:23:58 AM PDT

  •  It's shocking, really (8+ / 0-)

    You have to be stunned that the party who embarks on a strategy of delegitimizing government finds itself unable to actually author government policy when called to do so.

    Bunch of Gohmerts whose only ideas are less regulation for oil drilling and more regulation for uteruses. Of course they have no idea how to fix health insurance and health care delivery. This vision shit is not what they signed up for.

  •  How can this be? (2+ / 0-)
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    onionjim, Gentle Giant

    My representative Phil Roe, TN-01 (he's an Obstetrician by trade - he tells us that at every turn) says he authored a replacement plan months ago, but that President Obama won't agree to meet with him to learn how superior it is to the ACA. Dr. Roe is a proud member of the House Tea Party Caucus, so I'm sure his plan will benefit one and all...

    There are no second class citizens in America, and there are no second class marriages in America. - Eleanor Holmes Norton

    by Captain Sham on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 12:28:51 PM PDT

  •  are you claiming that malpractice reform (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JBL55, Gentle Giant

    does not constitute an entire health care plan?

  •  I Can Only Quote J. Dean From NN A Few Years Ago (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JBL55, Gentle Giant, Mr MadAsHell

    "I am beginning to believe, at a national level, republicans do not know how to govern".

    "Obama inherited so much Republican-strewn garbage, it makes my head spin to think about it." Bill in Portland, Maine

    by wild hair on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 01:08:02 PM PDT

  •  The forehead. (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    JBL55, Gentle Giant

    Page was loading, all I could see was the hair and forehead, and I knew who it was. I guess that's why this new facial recognition software can work.

    I wish we could just make it all single payer, and stop playing footsie with the drug makers.

    A true craftsman will meticulously construct the apparatus of his own demise.

    by onionjim on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 01:10:30 PM PDT

    •  My hope is that is exactly the plan. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      onionjim

      Though I still am pissed it was never on the table, even at the beginning of the ACA negotiations.

      "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by Gentle Giant on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 01:54:13 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Still no GOP replacement plan? (0+ / 0-)

    Well, it's good to know in these days of modern times, when you can't tell the ACs from the DCs, that there are still some things in life we can count on.

  •  Have they forgotten about there (2+ / 0-)
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    JBL55, Gentle Giant

    #1 plan the,  Hurry up and died plan that one saves a lot of money for every one. If you don't like that plan well to bad because that all they have to offer.

    Dogs and Philosophers do the greatest good and get the fewest rewards (Diogenes)

    by Out There on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 01:14:39 PM PDT

  •  2009? (4+ / 0-)
    the ability to buy insurance across state lines, wider use of health savings accounts and cutting federal regulations
    That was essentially their answer to Hillarycare 20 years ago. Then they grudgingly air-kissed Heritagecare until it changed its name to Romneycare then Obamacare.

    The core 'Pub plan has always been Wedontcare.

    I live under the bridge to the 21st Century.

    by Crashing Vor on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 01:18:15 PM PDT

  •  The GOP as presently constituted would never (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Gentle Giant, Mr MadAsHell

    have one...because that would mean dealing with reality....something that their DNA doesn't allow...

    No, there's still no House Republican Obamacare replacement plan

    "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis, 1935 --Talk of foresight--

    by tuma on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 01:20:19 PM PDT

  •  You want to know why we're fucked in 2014? (2+ / 0-)
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    Gentle Giant, Bailey2001

    A senior Democratic strategist said this:

    But a senior Democratic strategist involved in House races said, if Republicans adjust their message from repeal to “we need to get rid of 80 percent of the law, keep some stuff, you’ll start seeing them pick off a lot of Dems at that point.”

    “The only thing we have going for us is [Republicans] insist on full repeal, even the breast cancer funding,” the Democratic strategist said. “If they scaled down to something more reasonable, they would beat us every time.”

    Democrats have no interest in defending the ACA. None. It's clear as a bell. They're going to try to skate through 2014 pretending it doesn't exist.

    Un. Fucking. Believable.

    •  Sounds like we need a new strategist. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      chrississippi

      This one is broken.

      "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by Gentle Giant on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 01:55:57 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Exactly. Even is talking about them not having (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      chrississippi

      a plan.  Good!!! We don't want them to come up with a plan because guess what?? We don't need them to figure out a new way to scare more voters with more lies about whatever plan they dream up.  

      We need to be selling the ACA!  I want to hear the positive news about our plan.  How many people is it helping?  How are we going to improve it? What are the uninsured numbers now? When are we expanding it?  That's what I want to hear.  

  •  Do-nothings have such comprehensive plans (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    a2nite, Gentle Giant

    Like if they wanted to fix the railroad system.  They wouldn't fund trains or tracks or big stuff like that.  But they'd propose an alternative whose biggest feature was polishing the spittoons in the railway stations.

    The whole Banana Republican party is one big shiny spittoon.

  •  When you gain your office solely by (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    a2nite

    creating an image that is attractive to the electorate, when you are elected spouting off about issues that are tantalizing while leaving the complicated albeit more important stuff out for expediency's sake, and when your whole raison d'etre in the Congress of the United States is constructed of fog and mirrors...
    Eventually, looking like you have beliefs and pretending you are actually doing something becomes all you know how to do and the actual work necessary to do your job confounds you, is beyond your ken.

    You can not "put up", but you will not "shut up".

    "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Gentle Giant on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 01:48:38 PM PDT

  •  Their big problem? ACA is the GOP plan! (0+ / 0-)

    Obamacare was built on a foundation largely crafted by GOP  think tanks. Any thing they'd replace it with would look pretty similar - if they could agree on anything at all that stood half a chance of working. And they don't really want anything that works - so they're stuck.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Wed Mar 19, 2014 at 02:21:12 PM PDT

  •  No replacement needed (0+ / 0-)

    O care is nothing but welfare with the hardest working Americans subsidizing others. Repeal the massive tax and welfare program and let the country get back to better times. Or maybe you actually believed this: "if you like your policy you can keep it"?

  •  "Across State Lines" (0+ / 0-)

    Insurance companies can already sell insurance across state lines.

    They  must, however, get approval from the insurance commission of your state, which is charged -- however poor a job they may be doing -- with protecting you against insurance scams, before they sell a policy to you.

    What the Republicans are apparently proposing is to let any insurance company sell any policy which has approval from any insurance commission in any state sell that policy in every state without letting your state's insurance commission look at it.

  •  Someday (0+ / 0-)

    maybe the MSM will figure it out: "traditional media which is too vested in the idea that the Republicans are somehow a legitimate part of government." Or maybe not who knows with these idiots.

  •  Oh sure they have a plan. (0+ / 0-)

    It's called 'Bend Over For Big Insurance.'

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