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Federal Judge Eric F. Melgren ruled Wednesday that the federal Election Assistance Commission must amend its voter-registration forms to require voters in Arizona and Kansas to show proof of citizenship before casting ballots. The complicated case, Kobach v. United States Election Assistance Commission, stems from a refusal by acting EAC director Alice Miller to change the federal form to include proof of citizenship, which both states require. Because all the positions but hers on the commission are vacant, Miller acted on her own to turn down a request by Arizona to have the forms changed.

The issue has a long history, beginning a decade ago when Arizonans voted for Proposition 200, a law linking voting and citizenship. As a consequence, Arizona got into a tussle with the EAC because the commission's standardized voter-registration form does not include proof or citizenship. Eventually, the matter made its way to the U.S. Supreme Court. Last year, the Court ruled in Arizona v. Inter-Tribal Council by 7-2 that Arizona's law was pre-empted by the 1993 National Voter Registration Act.

But a big loophole was left by Justice Antonin Scalia, who wrote the majority opinion. Rick Hasen of the Election Law Blog explains:

Inter-Tribal says that the federal government has plenary power to set the manner of conducting federal elections. But it also says that states have the power to set voter qualifications, and suggests that Congress cannot set a manner for voting in federal elections which deprives states of the ability to confirm that voters meet the state’s qualifications. Justice Scalia, for the majority, suggested that Arizona sue the EAC to get it to either change the federal form to require proof of citizenship for Arizona or get a court order for the EAC to do so.
The case decided by Melgren was initiated by the Kansas secretary of state, Republican Kris Kobach.

Read more analysis below the fold.

Howard Fischer reports that the decision is a setback for the Mexican American Legal Defense Fund, which has fought the Arizona law. MALDEF argues that the law harms voter-registration efforts because citizens may not be carrying or have access to proof of citizenship. The organization has vowed to appeal Judge Melgren's ruling.

But Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne notes that the ruling takes effect immediately, meaning that voter fraud will be curtailed. “So we’re going to make sure that only citizens vote in the 2014 election,” he said.

While Horne and others have claimed that such fraud is a big problem in Arizona, EAC's Miller said in her ruling against changing the federal form that state "evidence at most suggests that 196 of 2,706,223 registered voters, approximately 0.007 percent, were unlawfully registered noncitizens around the time that Proposition 200 took effect.”

In his ruling, Melgren called that irrelevant. The Constitution, he noted, gives states authority over voting qualifications and “The Arizona and Kansas legislatures have decided that a mere oath is not sufficient to effectuate their citizenship requirements and that concrete proof of citizenship is required to register to vote."

Originally posted to Meteor Blades on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 12:21 PM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  I honestly believe (41+ / 0-)

    most of our political contributions should go towards getting folks the required ID in the backward states, get them registered and then get them to the polls.  

    We can complain all we want about politicians.  Bottom line, our money, mouths and bodies should be educating and getting folks everything necessary to vote.  Nothing else matters.

    " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

    by gchaucer2 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 12:33:17 PM PDT

    •  Imagining the Pitch to Make to the Party That (7+ / 0-)

      has run from the poor, working class and liberals for 45 years in search of persuadable white Republican voters.

      I'd rather sell solar panels to the Kochs.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 12:48:55 PM PDT

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    •  gchaucer - I agree (22+ / 0-)

      While I believe we should fight unreasonable voter ID laws both legislatively and legally I have always thought that the Dems should be managing effective outreach to disadvantaged communities to assist them in obtained state approved ID and proof of citizenship documents. These documents have value well beyond just voting and it's a high touch way to build loyalty. It's a great project for high school or college students and other people with time, rather than money, to give to the cause.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 01:30:54 PM PDT

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      •  Excellent points (11+ / 0-)

        I have used my birth certificate for other stuff and only once for the first time I registered to vote back in the '70s.  All citizens should have a photo ID just because it reduces the hassles with the eejits.

        I love your idea of getting high school and college students involved with helping others -- even if it is just to educate and let folks know what they need if they are in an odious state.

        " My faith in the Constitution is whole; it is complete; it is total." Barbara Jordan, 1974

        by gchaucer2 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 01:41:11 PM PDT

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      •  But money's also going to be needed (5+ / 0-)
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        When you're making minimum wage, you might not have the money to get a certified copy of your birth certificate -- about $20-25 depending on your location (some are even higher I bet; that's what Mr. Scribe and I paid for ours when we needed copies for his employer when he retired). If you're a naturalized citizen, you might have to pay the ICE for copies of your citizenship documents. Some states require women to provide proof of name change, which may mean copies of marriage licenses, divorce decrees or death certificates, and other paperwork. And then you've got the cost for the photo ID itself -- no guarantee that the state will provide one free of charge to low-income voters.

        So we're going to need people with the time to walk folks through the process (and pretty fast because we're coming up on primary season), and others with money to help pay for the necessary paperwork.

        There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

        by Cali Scribe on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 04:51:55 PM PDT

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        •  A side benefit might be that once these GOP types (2+ / 0-)
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          realize that the "wrong sort of people" are getting their ID's & can still vote they may feel that the present crusade is not worth it if not yielding their desired outcome (i.e. disenfranchisement of those likely to vote against them.) Maybe not though, since flogging a dead horse seems to be one of their favorite pastimes. Still I agree with all of the above - fight the repressive laws and help those who need it get the required identification.

          "Le secret des grandes fortunes sans cause apparente est un crime oublié" Balzac

          by gelfling545 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 05:13:18 PM PDT

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      •  The only need the proof the first time they (2+ / 0-)
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        register to vote. I also believe that those who have already registered are OK.

        If your recently became a citizen or are now the age to vote, you should have documents fairly easily available. I would think it might be harder for kids than new citizens.

        If you're a new citizen, wouldn't you have your citizenship papers in a safe place? It is an important document.

        I was born here and have my Birth Certificate. I'm not certain, but when I was a kiddo ready to go to school, my parents may have been required to show my BC in order to prove I was the right age for kindergarden.

        It’s the Supreme Court, stupid! Followed by: It's always the Supreme Court! Progressives will win only when we convince a majority that they, too, are Progressive.

        by auapplemac on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 05:09:10 PM PDT

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        •  this is honestly the biggest hassle for adoptees (0+ / 0-)

          Often, the Adoptee has no Birth Certificate as many states didn't routinely issue them for people adopted at birth.

          The process was a PITA and without paying an "expediter" to handle the situation for 150 bucks over the actual fees and you will wait 6-8 months.

          When I needed mine quickly. I got stuck paying the expediter to make sure I had it in time.

          This person was recommended by the State Dept of Vital Statistics as the only way to avoid the huge lines.  When I asked the "expediter" how they were able to get their stuff done in such a short time the answer was,

          " Well, I have friends in the office and I bring them donuts all the time to ensure my applications go to the top of the stack."
          Anyone imo who believes that donuts are the only thing changing hands for preferential service that takes the wait from 5 months to overnight......well I have a couple bridges at insanely low prices and with the current interest rates, why your monthly would be a steal.....

          all interest rates are introductory rates for 2 years at which time the interest rate will adjust to Prime + 29.99 or 50% whichever is more. anyone reading this disclaimer, by doing so, agrees to all terms and conditions...see pages 2-267 for the rest of the actual terms.

          Vaya con Dios Don Alejo
          I want to die a slave to principles. Not to men.
          Emiliano Zapata

          by buddabelly on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 06:00:38 PM PDT

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    •  Question (3+ / 0-)

      Are they required to show proof of citizenship to REGISTER or every single time they come to the polling place, they have to show their birth certificate or naturalization papers in addition to I assume current I.D.?

      Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it. http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

      by anastasia p on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 04:46:29 PM PDT

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    •  It is a worthwhile thing to do (5+ / 0-)

      Proof of citizenship is needed for many purposes these days. I needed it to get a job with the 2010 Census. I recently needed to replace my Social Security card. That required a certified birth certificate. The birth certificate I'd had for 40 odd years wasn't good enough any more. So, I downloaded the form for the birth certificate, printed it, scanned my drivers license and printed that too and mailed it all off with a check for $14. Easy as pie, if you have an internet connection, a scanner, a printer, a drivers license, a checking account and $14. Then I had to make a trip in person to the Social Security office with my new birth certificate and drivers license. Can't do it any other way. They have to look you in the eyes, in person. No problem. It's in walking distance. Then I got my new Social Security card FOR FREE! Hahahahahaha!

      I don't know how many people could be expected to jump through all those hoops without help.

      Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and it won't do him any damn good without a hook, line and sinker, and a pond with fish in it.

      by tomwfox on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 04:49:53 PM PDT

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    •  I agree and it should be a nation wide campaign. (1+ / 0-)
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      We should do whatever it takes to get everyone who wants to vote a proper ID.

  •  Better Access (12+ / 0-)

    The state and federal government need to give people better/easier access to the documents they need to be verified so that this voter registration issue ends.

    It shouldn't be hard for people to get the government documents they need, and that is something we should work to change.

    The right will continue to demagogue the issue and make us look like we have something to hide if we fight against these ID laws.

    We should answer by providing free ID programs and easier access to the necessary documents.

    Everyone wins in that scenario.

    Make Republicans an offer they can't refuse and get this issue off the table once and for all.

    •  Mandatory national ID card (0+ / 0-)

      Is the practical solution and one I will continue to bring up in every voter ID diary that I see.

    •  You don't understand the game they're playing. (16+ / 0-)

      The GOP needs continuing conflict. Their own dogma and objectives mean they cannot take yes for an answer. The terms of any proposed deal are irrelevant; the lack of a deal is in their interest.

      Consider:

      * The Heritage Foundation proposed Obamacare as the conservative healthcare reform plan, back when the Dems were pushing Hillarycare or single-payer. When the Dems adopted the Heritage Foundation plan, suddenly that same plan became socialist tyranny of the Muslim devil, or something.

      * Back in the shutdown negotiations of a couple years ago, the GOP's opening position was they wanted 85% spending cuts and 15% revenue increases. When negotiations got the Dems to 83% cuts and 17% increases, the GOP position suddenly shifted to 100% spending cuts.

      * The GOP opposes creating government jobs, AND creating private jobs with government stimulus, AND raising the minimum wage, AND expanding government benefits for the poor (Medicaid), and even keeping them at their current level (SNAP). So if the issue is alleviating poverty via the private sector they're against it; and they're also against alleviating it via the public sector. They need the continuing narrative that the poor are lazy and undeserving; all facts must be rearranged to fit that narrative.

      * As Paul Krugman has been pointing out repeatedly, the GOP keeps coming up with new reasons why the Fed should raise interest rates. As each new reason falls apart in the glare of economic reality, they keep coming up with new reasons. It doesn't matter what the economic situation is, according to the GOP the situation always calls for higher interest rates.

      They refuse to take yes for an answer. This is not because they are crazy, or stupid. It's because their objective is to maintain power. To maintain power, they need to (1) ensure never-ending conflicts to keep their rabid racist, classist base excited, and (2) keep as many Democrats as possible from voting.

      That's the only explanation that fits the facts.

      "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

      by HeyMikey on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 01:42:37 PM PDT

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      •  No need to be insulting (1+ / 0-)
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        Most of us easily realize that the Republicans and their associates sow fear, distrust and confusion in order to keep us occupied with the ensuring chaos . . . while they manipulate the purpose of government to serve only themselves and a wealthy few.

        That doesn't mean we roll over for each "challenge" while trying to educate the genpop on how their votes are hurting them and their neighbors, in the short and long terms.

        "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

        by wader on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 04:48:31 PM PDT

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        •  That wasn't insulting at all (3+ / 0-)
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          Aquarius40, hbk, HeyMikey

          You misunderstood the post.

          •  "You don't understand the game they're playing." (1+ / 0-)
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            HeyMikey

            Is the only point I was addressing.

            It was using the prior commenter as either a rhetorical foil or truly assuming that they had no clue about the machinations on display, then launched into their lengthy presentation.  I was addressing the latter possibility.

            Without tone being evident in text-based comments, we should endeavour to be clear how we are responding to the words and/or intentions of others here, IMHO.

            "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

            by wader on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 06:30:07 PM PDT

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            •  I intended no insult. (1+ / 0-)
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              wader

              If I clumsily gave one, I apologize.

              But I do believe the original commenter's suggestion--

              We should answer by providing free ID programs and easier access to the necessary documents.

              Everyone wins in that scenario.

              Make Republicans an offer they can't refuse and get this issue off the table once and for all.

              --was naive for several reasons:

              (1) "We" can't provide easier access to free ID and necessary supporting documents in most states, because in most states that would require Republican legislators or governors or appointed officials to cooperate in changing the access requirements. Which they absolutely have no intention of doing.

              (2) There can't be an "everybody wins" scenario because the GOP's goal is not to benefit the public, but to maintain its own power. The GOP--by its own internal standard--can't win unless the Democrats lose.

              (3) My several examples show there is no such thing as "an offer they can't refuse." They refuse even when they are offered their own opening demands.

              "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

              by HeyMikey on Fri Mar 21, 2014 at 03:52:13 AM PDT

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              •  As I mentioned above, rolling over (0+ / 0-)

                doesn't seem a useful option.

                I always like the idea of challenging Republicans to actually confront the practical implications of their noise-making, scattershot strategy through simple tactics.  Proposing aid for ID generation and distribution seems a fine proposal to explore for helping Republicans admit in public that they really don't care about enabling legal voters, but instead are targeting specific demographics via one method . . . before they move on to the next one.

                These pushback attempts can help to further alienate Republicans in the public perception - as we see, even their monied backers have been complaining about public perceptions, lately.

                Despite the redness of some states and/or Republican-skewed gerrymandering, we must continue to fight back against the larger Republican myths of attempting to help people through FREEDOM and HATING NON-WHITE, NON-RICH folks through our own methods.  The Overton Windows is almost as right-ward as it can go, so anything from an exposure and/or PR standpoint to help move it more left should be attempted and considered additive, IMHO.

                "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

                by wader on Fri Mar 21, 2014 at 11:05:28 AM PDT

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      •  "ensure never-ending conflicts" so puggys are... (2+ / 0-)
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        Meteor Blades, HeyMikey

        Trotskyites!

  •  Well, shit. (6+ / 0-)

    I couldn't document that I'm a citizen that easily & I was born right here in the city where I currently live. Luckily for me, so far PA only requires a state ID.

    English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

    by Youffraita on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 12:44:31 PM PDT

    •  My Pennsylvania birth certificate (12+ / 0-)

      is a computer-generated form that would be incredibly easy to alter. And I ordered it off the internet with no real proof that I was who I said I was. Requiring a birth certificate to get a voter ID is no real barrier to anyone who wants to vote fradulently.

      Could there be any better proof that this isn't about making sure there isn't fraud, but about voter suppression?

      •  Oh, the governor made it quite clear (12+ / 0-)

        that it's all about voter suppression when he said "Permanent GOP majority."

        I loathe and despise him.

        English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

        by Youffraita on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 01:18:59 PM PDT

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      •  Key is "Pennsylvania." (12+ / 0-)

        Pennsylvania is a swing state.

        Consider Mississippi, where the secretary of state admitted that (a) you have to have photo ID to get a copy of your birth certificate, and (b) you have to have a copy of your birth certificate to get photo ID.

        The GOP is looking to stop as many Dems as possible from voting. They will use every tool they have the power to use. In Pennsylvania they just don't have the unchecked power they have in a lot of other states.

        "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

        by HeyMikey on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 01:52:41 PM PDT

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        •  Well, the recent gerrymandering (3+ / 0-)
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          has had an effect...but yeah, there are plenty of people who have been crying "Foul!" about the dirty tricks & we still have some judges who care about the rule of law.

          And my rep to the state legislature is a Dem. Unfortunately, my firmly entrenched rep to D.C. was a teahadist long before the Tea Party existed.

          English usage is sometimes more than mere taste, judgment and education - sometimes it's sheer luck, like getting across the street. E. B. White

          by Youffraita on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 03:15:25 PM PDT

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        •  So if you're out of state (0+ / 0-)

          you have to fly to Mississippi to get your birth certificate, and hope they take your photo ID as genuine?

          When I had to get a copy of Mr. Scribe's certificate back in 2011, I just downloaded the form from the King County (WA) Department of Vital Records website, paid the fee, and mailed it off; had it within about a week or two. (Could've used a weekend trip to Seattle, too, back then.) Even faster for me; we drove up to San Mateo County, paid the fee, and they pulled it off the microfiche records.

          There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

          by Cali Scribe on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 04:58:46 PM PDT

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          •  I don't know the details. (0+ / 0-)

            But, in another example...

            ...I live in Georgia, another deep-red state. I had to renew my driver's license about 3 months ago, which required waiting around for hours at the DMV. The DMV is closed on Sundays and Mondays, and of course in the evenings.

            Now if you'd asked the couple hundred people in the DMV waiting room if they'd like to pay a couple extra bucks for their license in return for a much shorter line, 99.9% of us would obviously have said, "yes." That would allow the DMV to hire more staff, stay open Mondays, and add some Sunday and evening hours. They wouldn't even have to build any buildings--they could just keep their current buildings open longer.

            But the GOP pols who run GA absolutely won't let that happen, because (a) their base demands low government taxes and fees, and (b) the DMV is where you get a free state photo ID, with the same process as getting a driver's license.

            The bureaucratic hassle deters poor people from getting the ID they need to vote. Thus the GOP will ensure the bureaucratic hassle continues.

            "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

            by HeyMikey on Fri Mar 21, 2014 at 04:01:40 AM PDT

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  •  Needs More "Permanent Democratic Majority" (2+ / 0-)
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    diaires.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 12:49:28 PM PDT

    •  A permanent Democratic majority (1+ / 0-)
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      would turn out just as filthy as a permanent Republican majority -- a strong and sane opposition is necessary to keep from descending into corruption and complacency. Of course, "strong and sane" can in no way describe the current GOP -- they're certainly not sane, and average at best.

      There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

      by Cali Scribe on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 05:01:02 PM PDT

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    •  I have taken up the essence of that theme (0+ / 0-)

      many times, and will again soon. There is a long-running combination of demographic and generational shifts that moves the electorate about 1% in our direction each year. It is baked into the next generation that is already born and will come to voting age over the next 18 years. Even a 10 point shift would make the Republicans irrelevant nationally, and an 18 point shift would make them irrelevant outside of the very Reddest states such as Oklahoma and Utah.

      But it won't be permanent. The closest approximation to that was the Era of Good Feelings, and 18-year period between the final implosion of the Federalists, the original Party of No, in 1815, and the rise of the Whigs in 1833. The period is named ironically in view of the factional infighting among the various factions in the ruling Democratic-Republican Party, founded by Thomas Jefferson.

      There will be another corporatist party. I do not know what lies it will have to tell, nor where and when it will find enough Useless Idiots to get an occasional majority.

      Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

      by Mokurai on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 07:15:51 PM PDT

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  •  approximately 0.007 percent, were unlawfully.. (7+ / 0-)

    .. registered noncitizens around the time that Proposition 200 took effect.”

    And that:

    In his ruling, Melgren called that irrelevant. The Constitution, he noted, gives states authority over voting qualifications
    So it's really true; republican't party has zero intention of reaching out to "broaden their base".

    This tells me that republicans have zero intention of trying to "broaden their base" for women, minorities, immigrants, LGBT, iow's any person who is not white.

    The republican't plan is to:

    1) keep as many of the non-white population (Dems specifically) from voting

    2) foment fear/hatred and anger amongst the white republicans voters enough to GOTV

    These asshole republicans must have taken Phylis Schlafly's and ALEC founder Paul Weyrich's plan:
     stop Dems from voting/ voter suppression and get the hatred bigotry and fear going strong amongst the aging and shrinking GOP base hoping to get just enough to overcome the demographics they cannot control

    And this knowledge of the GOP could be a silver lining for Dems. Expose the GOP on every issue; stand forward with the latest progressive caucus budget; knock down every Issa witch hunt  loudly as ranking oversight member Elijah Cummings has and continues to do; stand firm on PPACA with all of it's benefits (many of which the new GOP fake health care plan actually includes)  and GOTV in a big way with a 50 state strategy or a variation of.

    Thx MB

    P.S. this really stinks - but we now know from GOP actions that their plan depends on on fearing the older white voters, teabaggers and such and to suppress the vote for all other non GOP voters.

    So if the GOP want to fight it out at the local and state level let's give it to them in the heart of their little fiefdoms

  •  One thing is perfectly clear (5+ / 0-)

    Judge Eric F. Melgren was appointed by George W Bush.

    The more Democratic-appointed judges we can get through the Senate, the less likely we'll see objectionable rulings like this.

    Election Day is Nov 4th, 2014 It's time for the Undo button on the 2010 Election.

    by bear83 on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 03:13:08 PM PDT

  •  Voting rights needs a constitutional amendment... (3+ / 0-)

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 04:26:43 PM PDT

    •  A hundred constitutional amendments can't stop (0+ / 0-)

      a legion of wingnut judges.

      Don't fear the law, fear the judge.

      •  I wrote that Diary last year (0+ / 0-)

        The Constitution as Catch-22

        It doesn't matter what the law says your rights are if you can't enforce them. We have to know how to get the public, legislatures, administrations, and courts to support our rights, and how and what we can effectively demand. We need education, and news reports, and issue campaigns, and election campaigns, and experts such as the ACLU and Lambda Legal in the current Marriage Equality fight, and similarly for all of the other issues.

        Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

        by Mokurai on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 07:33:15 PM PDT

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    •  Agreed. Pass it and have the language include a (3+ / 0-)
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      auapplemac, Addison, Aquarius40

      provision that no financial or other burdens will ever be allowed to prevent people from obtaining the agreed upon I.D.
       And while they are at it include language that allows people unrestrictive  access to the polls.

      I will never understand why most people who have more can't just leave it at that. Nope Instead most of them make it their mission in life to see to it that the others get less and less.

      by Canadian Green Card Alien on Thu Mar 20, 2014 at 05:10:34 PM PDT

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      •  It's already there (0+ / 0-)

        24th Amendment-

        The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
        •  Wow!! (0+ / 0-)

          Forgive my ignorance. Why is this not being shouted from the roof tops by the dems?
          At the very least it would mean assistance paying for any and all forms of voter ID that was introduced.

          I will never understand why most people who have more can't just leave it at that. Nope Instead most of them make it their mission in life to see to it that the others get less and less.

          by Canadian Green Card Alien on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 11:18:41 AM PDT

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  •  Galling they can get away with fraud rationale... (1+ / 0-)
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    Eric Nelson

    The fact that the GOP has been able, in so many states, been able to create this myth of fraud to justify making it harder to vote make my blood boil.

    In the NY Times story this morning that the defenders of these voter ID laws say that "Americans uncomplainingly present identification for getting on airplanes and numerous other things," so no big deal.

    What they don't say is that the poorest of our citizens never fly. What they don't say, what the New York Times doesn't say is that upwards of 20 millions Americans have no picture ID. (Those estimates are from the Brennan Center for Justice.) A

    And it’s no surprise those people are disproportionately poor, old, young, and minority.

    I had a hard time believing that anyone could be so craven and clueless to actually believe in their heart that cutting the number of early voting days would enhance democracy. How did these people live with themselves?

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