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the midterms are truly  terrifying right now. So I was thinking. We're not doing too well getting our people excited, but I was thinking ,if we can get them ANGRY enough they'll do something productive with that anger.

https://www.youtube.com/...

how bout Instead of trying to get democratic voters Excited about voting FOR somebody we get them angry enough to show up and vote AGAINST somebody?

Because I think we have enough fodder to do that. maybe we can’t get them excited but we can get them Angry and then put that anger to productive use.

Here Is the Short GOP Quote That Perfectly Defines the Shutdown

“We’re not going to be disrespected,” conservative Rep. Marlin Stutzman, R-Ind., [told the Washington Examiner]. “We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is.”

And I don’t know what that even is.

See I was thinking, we might not get them to LIKE our guys too terribly much but We certainly have enough fodder from the shutdown etc to remind people and wage a campaign to keep the rage alive. Yes. It's dangerous, but it just might work

ow could you achieve “bipartisanship” when the other side of the Aisle REFUSES to compromise? oh but the shutdown is “both side’s” right ? RIGHT? Nevermind this:

http://www.forbes.com/...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...
House Republicans Changed The Rules So A Majority Vote Couldn’t Stop The Government Shutdown

Never mind that the only reason it ever CAME to a Shutdown talk in the first place was their REFUSAL to compromise with democrats. all those filibusters and all that obstructionism culiminated in one mega shutdown during the shutdown. You only saw the Tip of the iceberg.

No clearly “both sides” have an “equal share” of the blame. and I have a bridge to sell you out back. Yes I’m aware the “very serious” people think it. but they’re not very serious at all, they’re intellectually dishonest HACKS.

Bipartisanship is impossible and that is purely republicans fault.

http://thinkprogress.org/...

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These ‘patriots’ have destroyed the Gulf with their reckless drilling companies who don’t care about safety or regulations or environment, all they care about is how much money they get for their overprice oil and Vitter loves it because he gets part of the dole.

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Isn’t it interesting that those patriots are doing everything they can to remove regulations so that they can pollute the air we breathe? The biggest producers of petcoke are, guess who, the Kochs. They then dump it in Detroit, and anywhere else that they can get away with it. I didn’t know that patriotism involved poisoning your own people. Maybe I need to look up the definition….or maybe Vitter does.

Reply · Like · 29 · Follow Post · March 21 at 12:58pm

how republicans define patriotism

Hatred of every american republicans hate wreckless profiteering worshiping of money and looking the other way at hypocrisy.

it’s FANTASTICALLY Orwellian. tea party “patriots” are VICIOUSLY antiamerican they are the DEFINITION of SABOTEUR.  shrug ATLAS SHRUG! i dare you! BRING IT ON!

better off WITHOUT YOU. CHOKE and BURN.

republican “patriotism” is ANTI  americanism

it seems “patriotism” to republicans mean 'betrayal from within”

hoping obama fails so they can get their coveted power back.

Orwellian patriotic Anti americanism

the republican BRand and seal. Heil the INNER party Elephant right
the GOP's ENTIRE Mission since 2006 Has been to do NOTHING but STAND in the democrats way and SABOTAGE them at every turn and sadly the IGNORANT MOTHERFUCKING POPULATION has Largely bought their BULLSHIT SADLY.

If Obama’s agenda is causing you to suffer it’s because the republicans got in the way. For fucking 8 years now they have filibustered obstructed and done everything they could to ensure democrats could not do a single thing to actually change anything, even Obama’s “failed campaign promises” are 100% their fault- he Tried.

If you think when Mitch McConnell said that “our top political priority should be to deny Obama a second term” that A SINGLE republican  in the house or senate didn’t go along with that you have not been paying close enough attention and you have missed something.

The GOP has stood there for 8 years and done everything they could to Sabotage and destroy the Parties ability to pass a Single bill.

Because they know they’re are wrong deep down inside, that America does not CARE about the size of government

They need to make damn certain government doesn’t work so  when they say “government isn’t the solution” there’s no data there to challenge it because they’ve been busy making  certain the government CAN’T work.

and if you don’t realize that the one suffering Psychosis is YOU , not me.  you are also overconfident and think you are more informed than you genuinely are.

Lindsay graham sat there and SCOFFED DISAPPOINTED we brokered a deal with Iran

you know why he was disappointed? The GOP had been intending to go to war with Iran all along. And He knew that they had failed to stop the President from achieving a Foreign policy victory.

you should be  so angry you’re ready to throw cow patties at them like the Kings Landing Riots, in a song of ice and fire, not considering VOTING for them, THAT is MADNESS.

the GOP has had ONE agenda Since 2008: Stop the democrats from getting any victories.

Which means they’ve put the party over REAL patriotism.

"Self perservation" that is all they care about.

http://crooksandliars.com/...

so  I was thinking that we just might have enough Ammo to keep them angry and for long enough to get them to volunteer and to the polls.

I'm sorry if this post is over the top It's just... I've HAD it

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  •  Tip Jar (8+ / 0-)

    http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals!

    by daeros on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:05:00 AM PDT

  •  I have one suggestion to motivate voters: (3+ / 0-)
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    daeros, turn Virginia blue, Matt Z

    Remind them again and again of the Republican party's attack on their voting rights.  Remind them of how Republicans have shut down polling places, stopped early voting, shuttered the polls on Sundays, etc.  Tell voters to send a message to those who would take their vote away.

    That is powerful enough to drive people to the polls.

    It's the Supreme Court, stupid!

    by Radiowalla on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:15:05 AM PDT

    •  your sig is part of my realization about Strategy (1+ / 0-)
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      you must be one of my followers. See I saw through the GOPs bullshit rouse because of how they've been using scotus. They can say they're the party of "civil right's" but that doesn't explain why Scalia attacked the voting right's act or detoothed brown vs the board of education.

      I think we're bombarding voters with too much a lot of the time so the best way to  debunk the GOP's denialism of  their Racism is just to point out what SCOTUS has been up to.

      I swear to god the supreme court is the manifestation of chaotic evil.  I would say "lawful' but the fact is that they're in a position to decide what the law is.

      http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals!

      by daeros on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:20:52 AM PDT

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      •  Words matter...and should be used effectively (2+ / 0-)
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        Take Newt at his word and compile and disseminate a list of "action words" that fit on bumper-stickers and shout out an entire galaxy of meaning...such as the Right Wing's "Nanny State," "Death Taxes," "San Francisco Liberal." Well, you get the point. The Right does this very well (they don't care if they sound impolite, uncivil or rude...they want to make their point!)

        Examples for progressives:
        1. Republican Supreme Court
        2. Citizens United Decision: "Republican Supreme Court's  gift to the Rich and Powerful
        3. Shredding of VRA: Republican Supreme Court raises Jim Crow from the dead.
        4. Southern (and other) States' Republican voting restrictions: Jim Crow laws
        5. Stand Your Ground Laws: legalized lynching
        6. George Zimmerman decision: State-sanctioned lynching.

        I think you see where I'm going here. Tell it like it is!! My own anger comes close to the diarist's and is now in the "seething" zone. How we engage liberals, progressives etal and put them in the zone is an uphill battle.

        Don't forget that Right Wing anger is largely manufactured, broadcast and sustained by both Fox and Hate Radio. Both feature "agitators" and their entire reason to be is to find hot buttons, push them and let callers rant and foam and add to their agitation.

        The progressive side has nothing close. A recent DailyKos diary (can't find it again for link) decried "outrage fatigue" and that's our problem (one the Right doesn't have because they never get tired of hating Obama and if they start to, they get a booster shot from Hate Radio or Fox).

        I'm not hopeful at this point because progressives want to be civil and "understand" where the Right is "coming from." I stopped going to Democratic Party "meet-ups" when I was pilloried for being "too strident and divisive." Not a hopeful sign that they will ever get angry without a depression, war or other catastrophe.

        "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

        by GEldridge on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 11:17:55 AM PDT

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    •  there isn't a lot of supreme court transparency (0+ / 0-)

      and unfortunately that has become a good way to Vial their Vile mechanizations.

      http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals!

      by daeros on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:22:29 AM PDT

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  •  I'm sorry if my post wrecks of unibomber anger (1+ / 0-)
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    I'm not actually that crazy but my rhetoric can be, I'm not entirely professional. It's mostly just personal thoughts from my blog and things I've been reading lately.

    But I'm SURE the MORE professional types can study the dis coherent me  to figure out what the hell got me so upset because I'm a good resource to figure out people's hot buttons.

    Get me into a Focus group! pronto!

    http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals!

    by daeros on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:16:22 AM PDT

  •  "We" as in (1+ / 0-)
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    Individual Democrats who care more about motivating voters than the leaders of the Democratic party do?

    The last thing people like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama want is an angry electorate. Public anger strong enough to move the electorate would bite these Oligarchs in their asses. There is no way to finesse their dedication to the 1% in the face of a genuinely angry public.

    Never mind that public anger is actively (and often successfully) co-opted by the right.

    So, no.

    •  You might have a valid point (0+ / 0-)

      Sadly the Right wingers have those right wing populist ( an oxymoron ) fooled so badly. Those people are a joke. I don't get why they don't realize they're a walking self parody.

      http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals!

      by daeros on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:24:52 AM PDT

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      •  I don't mean to say that there is no good (1+ / 0-)
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        In reminding people of the things that should make them angry enough to get to the polls, just that we can expect no assistance from the national party. Any interest they show is likely to be in the form of an attempt to suck angry voters into the Establishment fold and neuter them.

        If anger is to be an effective part of a program for fundamental change, it's going to come from a place in active opposition to the party leadership.

        Nothing that threatens the Oligarchy will get near the levers of power without their consent.

        •  we have really been on our own for awhile (1+ / 0-)
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          the good part is that people like you are waking up and realizing it. Keep on getting others to do the same. We have an intraparty war to win.

          http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals!

          by daeros on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:33:04 AM PDT

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          •  I wish I could justify your optimism on my behalf (1+ / 0-)
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            But I've been awake for quite a while and I have little confidence that any significant change in the Democratic party is possible so long as most Democrats continue to embrace or accomodate social centrism and economic conservatism.

            Again, party leaders determine who gets power, and it's not EVER going to be the left wing of the party when that left wing can't even be bothered to hold the "Progressive" caucus responsible for its own complicity, let alone make good on threats to withhold the money and votes that provide the sole motivation for politicians to change.

    •  but on the upside it would Put Pelosi and Reid and (0+ / 0-)

      obama right where we want them...

      http://www.actblue.com/page/accountabilitynow If the dnc dscc or dccc send you mailers, send that link back to them and tell them you won't send money to people who defend democrats who betray progressive principals!

      by daeros on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:26:21 AM PDT

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      •  Sorry, but I can't agree. (0+ / 0-)

        They have no reason to care, unless there is some method of access toward political power I've missed. "Holding their feet to the fire"--unless it holds a serious threat of withholding money or votes--has simply resulted in a movement toward the right.

        Their formula has been that every loss of a vote on the anti-Establishment side equals a gain of more than one vote on the opposite margin.

        There is no pro-Establishment path to power for anti-Establishment ideas.

  •  This is my motivator. (4+ / 0-)
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    I may not like or have much faith in the Ds on the ballot, but the Rs usually have enough of a history that's foul enough to make me want to get out and campaign against them and certainly vote against them. Though I dream of the day when I face a tough choice between two candidates I really like, to actually vote FOR someone, reality is that I mostly vote AGAINST one or another candidate.
    I think of it as "defensive" voting (like defensive driving), I vote against the one who I figure will do the most harm.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:25:19 AM PDT

  •  It Worked Great in Ohio 2011-12. (4+ / 0-)
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    MrJayTee, daeros, slksfca, Matt Z

    After the Tea Party swept in in 2010 and switched agendas going super anti labor, the Ohio unions and allies rallied and got the big Repub anti union bill repealed by such a huge margin, they prevailed in 82 or so of our 88 counties. The organizing held together to give Obama Ohio in 2012 even though we're so badly gerrymandered that the state is probably untouchable for Democratic majorities, and our 50-50 electorate till further notice sends 4:1 Republicans to the US House.

    So anger can work -- but you need a large Democratic constituency and issue(s) on the ballot that will respond to anger. And union workers have a self organizing structure, similar to rw evangelicals, so Union workers can be motivated by anger. Demographics that are perennially on the margins, for example the poor, probably cannot be rallied with anger.

    So it depends on who you've got in your state and what issues and assets there are.

    You can't count on commercial media to carry your message, or if they do, to do it in a non-derogatory way. Despite all the mania about framing, merely framing a message aggressively doesn't mean that the frame will be delivered to any voters.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:38:38 AM PDT

  •  It's not enough. (0+ / 0-)

    Ask John Kerry - he was running against the worst "President" in modern American history, and he lost.

    He ran on the I'm Not Bush ticket.

    But he didn't realize, and we need to realize, that we can't just be against the other guy. Some people will be motivated to vote that way, but so many will be turned off and tuned out. Voter turnout diminished, and the side that cultivates the most irrational fanatics wins.

    Not us.

    We need to be re-marketing our principles. We need to sell the idea that we believe in bringing health care to everyone, that we should make the minimum wage a living wage, and we need a government that works for everyone, not just the1%.

  •  Maybe a DON'T VOTE campaign. (1+ / 0-)
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    Here's what you take -

    Unlimited tax breaks for billionaires
    Dirty Air
    Dirty Water
    Crazy Weather
    Sick and Dying with no health care
    Starving children
    Unemployed Workers
    GOP in your Doctor's Office, just monitoring your health.
    Guns for everyone, freedom bullets in your walls.
    No Post Office
    No Education
    No Libraries
    No Parks

    It can't be that bad, everybody to get from ballot box.

    Now they have the 2nd (safety net for sloppy) Amendment, and can't be infringed to actually treat their gun like a gun and not a video game controller.

    by 88kathy on Mon Mar 24, 2014 at 08:56:26 AM PDT

  •  Contrary to the popular belief by some hereabouts, (0+ / 0-)

    most people don't live in a state of perpetual outrage, hence it is not a driving force in their decision making.

  •  Anyone who isn't angry ... (1+ / 0-)
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    daeros

    hasn't been paying attention ...

    And roughly half of those eligible to vote have NOT been paying attention.

    And of those who HAVE ... about fifty percent (more or less) are JUST FINE with all those things that are supposed make disengaged Democrats angry enough to vote.

    But here's the flaw in the thinking ... those CAPABLE of outrage already ARE outraged.  The trick is getting the OTHERS ...  (who are supposedly "Moderate and Centrist" (tm.)

    And THEY are not going to be hippie-punched, guilt-tripped, scolded or shamed into voting for people they don't know and who have made no effort to impress them beyond saying  "the Other Guy will be so much worse."

    It wasn't the "Professional Leftists" and "Unicorn Riders" staying away from the polls in 2010 that cost us the House.  

    Partially it was  Mr Hope and Change HIMSELF "reaching across the aisle" as if he was expecting to find good faith partners in negotiation there -- and then declining to say "Ouch" when he got is  nuts crushed in the obstructionist vice.  "The Caucus Room Meeting ??? What was THAT ???"

    And partially, it was that the Establishment Democrats seemed to differ  from Mainstream Republicans largely on the issues of Marriage Equality and Marijuana Toleration.  ("We're all Free Trade Chicago Schoolers nowadays.")

    Personally, I'm all out of ideas how to GOTV ...  

    The pity is ...   so are the DSCC and DCCC, -- never mind the DLC.

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