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It might turn into a battle between the right-wing Super PACS in the North Carolina Senate race, which could make for a very interesting primary. That ad up above is running in a $1 million ad buy from Karl Rove's American Crossroads for state House Speaker Thom Tillis, the supposed GOP frontrunner. What's the problem for Tillis with $1 million being spent on his behalf? Instead of saying anything at all about Tillis and "repeal," it says Tillis has "the conservative guts to replace Obamacare with honest health care reforms." That's drawn from a radio interview Tillis gave in February that suggested he thought Obamacare wasn't a wholly terrible idea.

That puts Mr. Tillis in kind of a tough spot. See, the Kochs' Americans for Prosperity has pumped well over $6.5 million in the state, running ads attacking Sen. Kay Hagan over Obamacare. The law they want repealed. And only repealed.

See, Tillis has a tea party primary opponent, Greg Bannon, who is using this ad for his attack on Tillis. Here's his spokesman: "You’ll notice it makes no mention of repealing Obamacare which would take real guts and surprisingly it even references the same radio interview in which Thom says Obamacare is a great idea that can’t be paid for."

All of which forced Tillis's camp to tell Greg Sargent that "Speaker Tillis obviously does not think Obamacare is a great idea, and in fact he wants to repeal it and will do so in the U.S. Senate." But Tillis apparently isn't asking Crossroads to take down their $1 million worth of ads. He's going to need that money if the Kochs decide they want to back the real repeal true believer.

Once again, repeal is turning out to be a real bitch for Republican Senate candidates. Too bad.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 12:29 PM PDT.

Also republished by North Carolina BLUE, Obamacare Saves Lives, and Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (28+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 12:29:23 PM PDT

  •  Tillis has been getting (0+ / 0-)

    some unfiltered treatment in the local media, see here from 3/25.  This piece ran 3/29 on Greg Brannon.

    It's going to be a very interesting election season in NC.

    Visit my new blog, Little Lotte Studio, to see what I'm growing and making this spring!

    by SteelerGrrl on Tue Apr 01, 2014 at 01:20:38 PM PDT

  •  Best to (0+ / 0-)

    vote for the right wing nutjob. That would be Bannon, though it's pretty close, everything considered.

  •  Dems should run and wrap that repeal crap (2+ / 0-)
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    around every Republican's throat. They won't win many Republican seats, but every seat does count and we could have some surprises, the longer this goes on.

    Let the Kochs suck on that.

    And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

    by Pale Jenova on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 06:35:02 PM PDT

  •  This is April 2. Repeal Obamacare zeal cannot (4+ / 0-)

    Sustain itself over 7 months.

    •  And, just how many months did such zeal support (5+ / 0-)

      45 - is it (?) - attempts on the part of Boehner, and the Teabaghead/Republicans in the House of Representatives, to "repeal" the ACA?

      Unfortunately, "zeal" never knows time limits.  It goes on, and on, and on, and . . . always trying the same thing over, and over, and over, and . . .again, and again, and again, and . . . in hopes of different results.  There is a definition there, which applies to "zealots".

    •  Also... (2+ / 0-)
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      diggerspop, Matt Z

      Many people are against Ocare because of negative ads. Now that its here and people are getting more for less, people realize its not a bad thing. According to recent polls, it's trending toward the positive.

      Ocare was easier for them to run against in 2010, before the law was enacted and they could say anything about it.

      •  Keep in mind a couple things: (1+ / 0-)
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        First, 80% of the population was already covered by health insurance, and the ACA affected them only tangentially if at all.  Still, a great many of those people despise the law only because they have heard so much from their favorite "news" sources about how horrible it is (and it's associated  mandate).

        Second, the law is still being referred to as Obamacare, which conjures up the president, of course, and all the things certain members of the public have been led to despise about him.

        Abject and senseless hatred of Obama and any program to which his name has been attached is not going to be overcome by the program's success.  Many of those haters, even the ones only slightly affected by the law, will not likely have their opinion altered, and they'll use any dreamed-up excuses they hear, true or not, to retain their opinion.

        "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

        by SueDe on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 07:52:28 PM PDT

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    •  The attack on Obamacare has been (1+ / 0-)
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      going on for nearly 5  years now.  Even people who do or could benefit from it hate it if that's what they're told to do.  

      The GOP will destroy anything they can't own.

      by AnnieR on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 07:29:39 PM PDT

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  •  and time is NOT on the GOP's side on this (1+ / 0-)
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    look at the trajectory of the ACA discussion, from OMG-what-a-mess to wow-not-so-bad to 7-million-and-lovin'-it .... and it's only April - that means months and months before the election, for the narrative of the ACA win to sink in....

    I truly believe that by the time most people are paying attention to the midterms (that is, October and November) - the ACA will be a big plus for democratic candidates, and an albatross for Republican primary winners.

    timing is everything.

    The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein

    by ERdoc in PA on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 07:01:40 PM PDT

  •  The downsides of Citizen's United (0+ / 0-)

    for Movement Conservatism don't offset the benefits, at least so far, but they are pretty significant.

    Obviously, there is the outside chance that there could be liberal billionaires who rise up to become the liberal Koch Brothers. (Movement Conservatives want the game rigged, not a new theater for tit-for-tat. Few things demonstrate more starkly that non-Conservatives are not in a debate with Movement Conservatism than how often Movement Conservatism is dedicated to systematically rigging the game/cheating wherever and whenever possible.) I'm betting that nothing will kill Citizen's United faster than a liberal billionaire or four. The same Roberts court that passed it will be perfectly willing to kill it if it suddenly goes from being a huge gift to a dire threat to Movement Conservatism. If it's not a one-sided weapon of mass destruction against non-Conservatism, I'm betting Antonin Scalia, John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, and Sam Alito will shamelessly flip like McDonald's burgers.

    But that is the liberal daydream downside.

    The more likely downsides to living in a post-Citizen's United political landscape for the Right are pretty bad too. Clearly the act of wasting hundreds of millions of dollars on lost causes or bad candidates is something we have had a front row seat for. I don't know what made me more gleeful, the unskewed polling movement blowing up in the Right's collective faces, or the amount of money the 1% of the 1% ate like bags of dirt mixed with broken glass. Bad outcomes are bad, bad outcomes you pay through the nose for are like the Movement Conservative versions of John Carter and Howard the Duck. The MegaFlops. Of which 2012 was quite a show of legendary fail. Worse, you can't fire some studio flunky or fallguy, re-arrange the studio execs in a very showy way to demonstrate the fuck-ups were not on you. Hell, if you are a Movement Conservative billionaire and people are coming to your hometown to kiss your ass in an airport hanger, your name is all over your fail. Daddy Warbucks as Bill Buckner. You become famous for shitting the bed on a grand scale in front of an audience of 300+ million Americans.

    And.

    What do you do when your various billionaires are not all on the same page?

    We talk, on the center left, about 'herding cats'.

    How the holy fuck do you herd cranky disagreeable billionaires who can both match the RNC is spending, match each other in spending, and might all go for the same brass ring in ways that tromp all over each others memes and frames and talking points.

    2012 was about wasting money.

    2014 could be about the downsides of 'who the fuck is in charge here?' All of us, that's who.

    I'm all for it. I'd love to see these guys stepping all over each other's toes because they know what they hate, but they don't agree on what is the best way to get what they want.

    The Kochs can't boss Shelly Adelson around.
    Steve Wynn can't boss the Koch's around.
    The GOP cannot say shit to any of them but 'yes, sir'. (Probably should be 'yes, sire'.)

    Movement Conservatism is a top-down, you take orders we give them kind of deal. It works best when everybody knows their place.

    One of  the worst kept secrets in southern Nevada is that some of these various casino moguls absolutely loathe each other.

    That, on a national scale, could be quite a shitshow for Movement Conservatism. With no easy diplomatic answer or quick fix.

    Small comfort to those of us who are poor as hell, or a Democrat who has 40 million dollars dumped on his or her head that can't be countered, but be careful what you wish for, Movement Conservatism, you might get want you want. Headaches and trainwrecks and all.
     

    “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.” — Auric Goldfinger

    by LeftHandedMan on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 07:14:58 PM PDT

    •  I was wondering the same thing... (0+ / 0-)

      but not in such detail. Ideally, it would be nice if they  waste so much money on primaries that they go from billionaires to multimillionaires. Sigh, nice to dream.

      PS-Let me go and watch my local reality/election show in Quebec where our local mediaowning multimillionaire is a candidate and put his foot in his mouth from the get go. Hubby hopes the guy loses by a humiliating margin.

      Un pour tous et tous pour un aka United we stand

      by livebyChocolate on Thu Apr 03, 2014 at 09:32:18 AM PDT

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  •  What I'd like to know is why do the (0+ / 0-)

    Kochs hate Americans having insurance?  Why not just invest their billions in the insurance and pharmaceutical industry instead of fighting for tens of millions of us to drop dead?  Wouldn't that cut into their business profits ultimately?  I just don't get it.  What is their end game?

    The GOP will destroy anything they can't own.

    by AnnieR on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 07:27:19 PM PDT

    •  They actually (1+ / 0-)
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      believe their Libertarian nonsense.

      They are True Patriots doing us all a favor.  For our own good.

      "Our problem is not that the glass is half empty or half full, but that the 1% claims that it is their glass." ---Stolen from a post on Daily Kos

      by jestbill on Wed Apr 02, 2014 at 07:49:51 PM PDT

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  •  A GOP Senate isn't in the bag. (1+ / 0-)
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    As much as Republicans seem poised to take over the Senate, let's not forget that in states like NC we don't know their candidates yet. They are doing a better job of weeding out wingnuts, but history might repeat itself.

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