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Just trust him.
If Republicans repeal Obamacare, Rep. Paul Ryan is admitting that all that popular stuff—like young adults staying on their parents' insurance until age 26 and coverage of pre-existing conditions—is gone. Forget about it. But, uh, y'know, Republicans will totally come up with something to replace those policies:
Ryan added that Congress should look at different and more cost-effective ways to accomplish the same kinds of goals.

"I think there are better ideas and better reforms for getting at these very serious issues without these kinds of things that needlessly jeopardize the health care for people," Ryan said.

Is it just me or does that sentence make absolutely no sense? Better ideas for covering pre-existing conditions than just simply covering pre-existing conditions, because the latter needlessly jeopardizes the health care for people, except the people with pre-existing conditions who only have health care to begin with because of the policy that supposedly needlessly jeopardizes health care?

In short, Paul Ryan wants to take health care away from millions and millions of people, and replace it with ... something. He's totally going to come up with something, for sure, and it's going to be awesome. Maybe as awesome as his plan to privatize Medicare. Don't worry: You. Will. Love. It.

Do you ever get the feeling that when Paul Ryan was a teenager, he spent a lot of time telling his peers that he had a girlfriend, but they hadn't met her because she lived in Canada?

Originally posted to Laura Clawson on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:56 AM PDT.

Also republished by Obamacare Saves Lives and Daily Kos.

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  •  No, he wants to replace it with nothing. n/t (17+ / 0-)

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:00:28 PM PDT

    •  Heh, zero is a number too! n/t (7+ / 0-)

      Food processed to be nothing more than simple starches with two dozen flavorings and stabilizers added to make it appear to be food isn't "food". It's "feed" -- what you give to livestock to fatten them up for slaughter.

      by ontheleftcoast on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:04:32 PM PDT

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    •  In a way, I think you're wrong...Kinda... (4+ / 0-)
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      I believe he would indeed replace it....Replace it with something shitty like tort reform, tell us his trickledown theory on how not being able to sue will save people thousands, and call the bill something that sounds patriotic and like they give a crap. He'd probably include doctors, hospitals, big pharma, medical devices, etc.

      But in terms of the outcome, you'd be right. Because nobody would ever save anything--the people at the top of the scale would get richer...and that's it.

      •  The promise to 'replace' is like 'there' (2+ / 0-)
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        in the notional "I worked hard to get there, but when I got there, there was no 'there' there.

        We have to elect Rs because they will replace Ocare with something better, but once we elect them, we will discover that they have no idea of replacing anything at all, or tweaking or any of that.

        The unquantified 'replacement' is used because they correctly assume that we will fill it not with their ideas still unstated but with our own, without finding a way to bind them to our ideas, so the dream of replacement with better can get them elected. It will be better for them not to fill in that promising void, so they can trade on the unstated but hopeful promise of it, and then get in and kill us all with what they will say was our agreement, since they bound themselves to nothing, certainly not our dreams of better.

        •  Your third paragraph... (0+ / 0-)

          ...sounds like Republican promises. (/snicker)

        •  I get what you're saying...and you migh be right. (2+ / 0-)
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          But at the same time I get the feeling it could also be like Mitt Romney's economic plans--like re-writing the tax codes (you remember, the plans he couldn't go into the specifics about.) We both know the real reason he wouldn't is he knew more people would run from him if they heard them.

          My belief is the reform Ryan speaks of is kind of like that. And to find out what it is, we'll have to elect them first so they can repeal ACA first. Then, in 2016, God forbid they win the WH and take the senate, they'll share with us their brilliant ideas--you know, when we can't get rid of them. They have so many items on their list that they would love to ram through and call it HCR--namely tort reform.

          However, it is possible some of those they could also squeeze through as riders on other bills--like food stamps on the farm bill, etc.

          But I do believe they have plans...and we won't like them.

          •  If I could edit my post I would... (1+ / 0-)
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            But if you want to envision the Republican's plan to replace the ACA...

            Close you eyes and envision a healthcare reform plan written by ALEC.

            •  That's easy. (1+ / 0-)
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              Close you eyes and envision a healthcare reform plan written by ALEC.
              Don't get sick.  If you do, die.  h/t Alan Grayson

              "My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right." -- Sen Carl Schurz 1872

              by Calamity Jean on Sat Apr 05, 2014 at 07:53:50 PM PDT

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          •  I do wish someone could explain how, after some (1+ / 0-)
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            45 attempts on the part of Boehner to "repeal" the ACA, anyone in his right mind even fantasizes the Teabaghead/Republican Party as having an "alternative" to offer.  Indeed, Boehner, himself, made it clear he was merely blowing hot air about that idea, the last time around.  And where on earth - since neither heaven nor hell bears any place in the REALITY of insurance reform - does anyone find reason to believe anything at all Ryan has to say?

            Oh!  Well!  Just leave it up to the Supreme Court.  They're already running full blast back into the 19th Century, and the True Conservative idea of "the best government money can buy".  Just point the Chief Justice at the ACA, and watch that, too, get thrown out of the Statute books.

            •  You're paying too much attention to... (1+ / 0-)
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              The puppets on the stage and not enough attention to the people behind the curtain. ALEC, the insurance lobby, big pharma, and all the other the big money conservative orgs that pushed the insanity and outrage when ACA was happening, poured money into the elections to get their puppets elected...Even if they get their way and ACA gets overturned, do you honestly believe they'll stop there when they could do so much more? It would be a golden opportunity for them.

              You can bet the farm that THEY (not the Republicans), will have something in mind if their people ever get in the driver's seat. And if you're middle class, let alone poor, I can sum up their plan in two simple words...You're fucked.

    •  Here's a GREAT example.... (4+ / 0-)
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      of the GOP's true position on a replacement for Obamacare and ironically, it comes via Fox News in a Monday interview with Lindsay Graham

      “Why do you think that Republicans can put together a better plan to get the trust back in government? What are Republicans putting out there that says to the American people, ‘No, you can trust us?'" she asked.

      "I think the first thing we’ve got to explain to the public is the Democrats who want to fix Obamacare have a political problem," Graham responded.

      Lee interrupted Graham as he continued to answer.
      "Why hasn't a full proposal of a completely different plan from the GOP been developed, put out to the press for us to look at and really dig into?" she asked.

      Graham didn't have a complete answer for Lee.

      "I hope that comes, but at the end of the day, we are trying to implement a law that’s just failing America on multiple fronts," he responded.

      Lee asks one more time what's keeping Republicans from putting together an alternative health care law, and Graham says he believes the GOP should come up with a plan.

      “I think we should have an outline of a health care plan that would be better for America," he said. "But between now and then, our Democratic friends are trying to sell the American people, ‘You can fix this Obamacare.’ It can’t be fixed. It’s got to be torn down, and start over.”

      Look carefully....and notice how Graham keeps dodging any specifics on a GOP replacement plan and keeps pivoting to the GOP mantra....repeal, repeal, repeal.

      "Oh yeah....we got some ideas, but don't worry about that.  What we REALLY need to do is get rid of Obamacare."

      They have had years now to come up with a plan and just about every senior member of the party have come up with their own version of something that never holds together financially...

      The favorite ploy is to assure interviewers and constituents that whatever the GOP does it will "keep all the popular parts" of the current legislation, as if there were ANY way such a plan would (a) provide comprehensive affordable care or (b) work actuarially.

      But then the GOP doesn't really have a real plan, it never plans to have one.  All it wants to do is repeal and walk away.

      You can see the full interview with Graham at:

      https://www.youtube.com/...

      Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

      by dweb8231 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 02:09:03 PM PDT

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      •  They do so have a plan... (3+ / 0-)
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        It's called the Affordable Care Act. It's Romneycare. The whole thing was a Republican idea in the first place. They just don't like it because Obama adopted it. Repubs made a huge mistake about this: they should have supported it all along, saying that it was their idea, and how glad they are that the Dems woke up to its awesomeness.  But their hatred of Obama trumps all of that.

        Life's a dance you learn as you go; sometimes you lead, sometimes you follow.

        by gloriasb on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 02:23:11 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah (1+ / 0-)
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        From my recollection, what Repubs have proposed before -- tax credits, health savings accounts -- has never even gone up for a vote before.  They've never proposed a credible alternative, and I don't think they plan to.  It's not a priority for them.  The only priority is gutting ACA and anything that looks to them like an "entitlement".  They want all public money to go to private hands.

        The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

        by LiberalLady on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 04:13:08 PM PDT

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    •  The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009 (0+ / 0-)

      He wants to replace it the "The Patients’ Choice Act of 2009"

      http://paulryan.house.gov/...

      The relevant documents are here:

      http://downloadily.net/...

      don't drone me, bro

      by BradMajors on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 04:16:11 PM PDT

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  •  As FDR said (13+ / 0-)

    When republicans wanted go give the impression they accepted the new deal that suddenly they support all these things and will do them better and in a way that won't cost anybody anything. The ACA will turn out the same

  •  He wants to replace it with something beautiful (11+ / 0-)

    The magic of the free market! Where no one will be uninsured because the insurance companies will make sure there is a plan to fit every need, including the needs of people who don't have the money to pay for a plan, or people who have an expensive pre-existing condition. Just you wait! You are going to love it!

    •  Should look at something different (0+ / 0-)

      But we know the solution is not something more effeciency, but something that transfer state treasure to specific private hands, like SS reform that would have given all FICA money to Wall Street.

      Here is the interesting thing.  Government health care is good enough for vets and John McCain, but government health care is not good enough for the rest of us? Is it because we care less about our vets.

      Here is thing. The VA is paying millions for 1000 wrongful deaths.  If government health care is so bad, let the conservatives give the 50 billion spent on VA hospitals to private insurers to take care of our vets.  Sure it will be more expensive, and vets and states will have to cover the difference, but aren't our vets worth it?  Do we want government death camps for vets?  The current policy suggests we do.

      Or just admit that a single payer like the VA is good enough.  That the mistake in the ACA was the conservatives insistence that we do not have single payer. Ryan can stop being a coward and admit that.

  •  Girlfriend in Canada! That's rich. (6+ / 0-)

    Listening to Black Sabbath.

    by DuzT on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:05:46 PM PDT

  •  Still holding that shiny object out there for the (4+ / 0-)

    rabid base eh Paulie?

  •  Paul Ryan spent his teen-age years living off the (9+ / 0-)

    Government.  After his dad died, Paul-baby got government funding all the way through college for his support.  He's a two-faced TAKER! .

  •  Just a guess at what he has in mind: (1+ / 0-)
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    Everything Right is Wrong Again - TMBG (lyrics)

    by GreenPA on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:37:30 PM PDT

  •  Hand-wavyness (5+ / 0-)

    is the new miracle exercise. All your heart disease. Gone. Cure for cancer? Why yes, it is.

  •  There is a more cost-effective way.... (13+ / 0-)

    and Vermont has adopted it.  Get rid of for profit insurance companies and their stockholders.  A universal single payer plan will deliver the savings Ryan and the GOP are seeking.

  •  No. (2+ / 0-)
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    Do you ever get the feeling that when Paul Ryan was a teenager, he spent a lot of time telling his peers that he had a girlfriend, but they hadn't met her because she lived in Canada?
    But I would bet that he said he "scored" when he didn't.
  •  More cost effective ways? (6+ / 0-)

    If Paul Ryan is looking at more cost-effective ways to cover pre-existing conditions, he should take a look at eliminating the insurance company middlemen and going to single payer.

  •  Market freedom incentive deficit work (9+ / 0-)

    Liberty America God Jesus Market.   Just words, no content.

    Think about the baby Jesus. Up in that tower, letting His hair down so that the three wise men could climb up and spin the dreidle and see if there's six more weeks of winter. -- Will and Grace

    by Rikon Snow on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:44:16 PM PDT

  •  I Would Have Rec'd This . . . (5+ / 0-)
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    . . . even without the "girlfriend in Canada," but the "girlfriend in Canada" makes me wish I could rec this a LOT.

    "Seeing Leela fly off the Hexadecapus and crash through the moon dome and survive inside a stuffed animal by breathing a balloon was a dose of reality." Farewell, Futurama--I will avenge you!

    by IamGumby on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:45:50 PM PDT

  •  he will do nothing (3+ / 0-)

    and yet it will be expensive

    stuck in nazi land

    by Krush on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:48:38 PM PDT

  •  Ryan wants to make covering pre-existing (6+ / 0-)

    conditions more cost effective for whom?

    Insurance companies

    I have been thinking that I would make a proposition to my Republican friends... that if they will stop telling lies about the Democrats, we will stop telling the truth about them. Adlai E. Stevenson

    by shoeless on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:50:09 PM PDT

    •  That's exactly it (1+ / 0-)
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      Another article I read on this essentially has him admitting that the insurance companies can't underwrite affordable policies that cover a lot of the things in Obamacare without the mandate.  And since he doesn't want the mandate, he wouldn't expect the insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions, do away with lifetime caps, etc.

      No, he's back to the old high-risk pool idea; maybe some federal funding but states would have to shoulder much of the cost.  Which essentially means a lot of people will go without because we've already seen that the high risk pools can't keep up with demand and costs.

      One estimate I heard a few years back was that about 1/3 of our population is considered to have a pre-existing condition. Paul Ryan is apparently prepared to write them off (no wonder they're all so anti abortion - got to have replacements ready to go after they cull the herd).

  •  But, but, but,... (4+ / 0-)

    ...there's just got to be better ideas and reforms out there somewhere!  There just hast to be!

    I'm not always political, but when I am I vote Democratic. Stay Democratic, my friends. -The Most Interesting Man in the World

    by boran2 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:54:21 PM PDT

  •  Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver (n/t) (5+ / 0-)

    Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

    by milkbone on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:54:55 PM PDT

  •  If Paul Ryan isn't the biggest phony in government (9+ / 0-)

    he is in the top five.

    I'll tell you right out, I am a man who likes talking to a man who likes to talk. - Kasper Gutman

    by rasbobbo on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:55:17 PM PDT

    •  hello! (2+ / 0-)
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      Phony intellectual, phony "compassion" for poor.

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 04:21:11 PM PDT

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  •  girlfriend in Canada? (0+ / 0-)

    Hey, I love your work and posts, but isn't this maybe a bit gratuitous?

  •  Continues to amaze me that people who have (6+ / 0-)

    figured out how to put their clothes on in the morning continue to vote for these vapid mindless cruel assholes

    I am pro-life. Bring our troops home ALIVE!

    by Doc Allen on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 12:55:53 PM PDT

  •  Ryan's statement (3+ / 0-)
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    makes more sense when one uses his own restrictive definition of people:

    "I think there are better ideas and better reforms for getting at these very serious issues without these kinds of things that needlessly jeopardize the health care for people*," Ryan said.
    * Wealthy White Males, their favored male progeny and their female relations as long as it means said females aren't given control oftheir own bodies.
  •  Explain to me why this (4+ / 0-)

    insufferable, goofy looking, repugnant bloviator is so loved by the press (no, not faux press FOX...he is their kind of "intellect" (which when used with "on FOX" is an obvious oxymoron)).

    Seriously, how can supposed real reporters keep calling Ryan the "intellect of the right" or some other such nonsense.  

    Must be his "brown nose" technique.  Apparently he was the best brown noser in his high school.

    Oh wait, the same press thought an alcoholic W was the kind of guy with whom we all would want to get beer.8(

    “We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both.” Louis D. Brandeis

    by Jjc2006 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:03:54 PM PDT

    •  The media thinks he's an intellectual because (2+ / 0-)
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      he brags about having read a book and insisting his staff read the same book, and it ain't the Bible or "Where the Wild Things Are."

      Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

      by judyms9 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:51:45 PM PDT

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  •  What puts the lie to this... (6+ / 0-)

    ..is just this: nothing's been stopping them for the last four years from proposing these "different and more cost-effective ways...better ideas and better reforms [blah, blah, yadda, yadda, etcetera, etcetera]."

    Nothing, that is, except nonexistence.

  •  RyPaul can have my health insurance and (1+ / 0-)
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    I'll take his.

    Jerk.

    Thump! Bang. Whack-boing. It's dub!

    by dadadata on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:06:15 PM PDT

  •  Is anyone else reminded (4+ / 0-)
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    of Nixon's secret plan to end the war in Vietnam?

  •  "Replaced" With A Death Panel- 1/2 Gov Palin Chair (0+ / 0-)

    "Never before has it been so hard for the rich to become poor, or for the poor to become rich." Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell (R,Ky)

    by wild hair on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:09:29 PM PDT

  •  Vouchers! (2+ / 0-)
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    That and tort reform will solve everything.

    In short, Paul Ryan wants to take health care away from millions and millions of people, and replace it with ... something.
  •  Such frustrating idiocy... (2+ / 0-)
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    "I think there are better ideas and better reforms for getting at these very serious issues without these kinds of things that needlessly jeopardize the health care for people," Ryan said.

    Well, let's see...

    The process for developing this law began in early 2009; at the time there were lots of discussions about the structure and content of the law.  

    What have republicants been doing for the last 5 years--besides everything in their power to simply destroy Obama's plan?

    Where are the details of their alternatives?

    In what specific ways are people's health outcomes jeopardized by the ACA?  And don't trot out anymore fake victims who have their eyes closed and are humming "lalalalalalalalalalicanthearyoulalalalal" so they can pretend not to see how they'll actually get better plans for less money than they currently have.

    And why isn't our wonderful Fourth Estate pointing all this out each time these fools get in front of a camera?

    "When and if fascism comes to America...it will not even be called 'fascism'; it will be called, of course, 'Americanism'" --Professor Halford E. Luccock of Yale Divinity School; New York Times article from September 12, 1938, page 15

    by demongo on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:14:29 PM PDT

  •  Thanks LC! He is the Anti-Christ if ever there was (1+ / 0-)
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    one...
    "Do you ever get the feeling that when Paul Ryan was a teenager, he spent a lot of time telling his peers that he had a girlfriend, but they hadn't met her because she lived in Canada?" Yes, and her name was Sandy and funny thing is that was his dogs name too?!?!!!
    I cannot stand the schmarmy-ness of his, he gives me the willies and heevy-jeevys something fierce!
    I just want to slap that self righteous smile right off his mug. Some people just get under my skin, I think it is his smiling while he lies...like a snake in the grass...
    Sorry to all the snakes out there.
    Peace and Blessings!

    “When you victim-blame, be aware that in all likelihood, at least one woman you know and love silently decides she cannot trust you.” ` Steph Guthrie

    by Penny GC on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:20:41 PM PDT

  •  You know the old Saying (0+ / 0-)
    A health insurance policy in hand is worth two in the bush.
    Or in this case, none in the bush.

    "Some men see things as they are and ask, 'Why?' I dream of things that never were and ask, 'Why not?"

    by Doctor Who on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:27:58 PM PDT

  •  Hey, Ryan. Would you kindly get stepped (0+ / 0-)

    on by a big daddy?

    You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

    by Throw The Bums Out on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:28:16 PM PDT

  •  He was channeling Dubya with that one. NT (0+ / 0-)

    "You want weapons? We're in a library! Books! The best weapons in the world! This room is the greatest arsenal we could have—arm yourselves!" -The Doctor

    by quillsinister on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:28:34 PM PDT

  •  It's a conservative delema... (2+ / 0-)
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    Because the ACA is the conservative solution:

    If you are going to keep for-profit insurance companies

    -and-

    You are going to keep employer provided healthcare (which many Americans are OK with)

    AND if you want to get rid of pre-existing conditions, keep kids on until their 26, get rid of caps, keep out of pocket expenses down and get rid of cancellations

    THEN you must have a mandate, exchanges and taxation as subsidies to fill in the gaps.

    It's not hard.

    “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck (Disputed)

    by RichM on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:31:05 PM PDT

  •  what he/they want to replace Medicare with is (2+ / 0-)
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    voucher-care. Oh HELL NO!!!!!!!!!

  •  Is it just me? (0+ / 0-)

    Does that photo of Ryan suggest to anybody else that he spent time in front of a mirror perfecting that "look"?

    I'd call that look "Dreamy Bastard" because of how he's looking and who he is.

    "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    by Gentle Giant on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:44:04 PM PDT

  •  LOL, perfect...................................... (1+ / 0-)
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    "Do you ever get the feeling that when Paul Ryan was a teenager, he spent a lot of time telling his peers that he had a girlfriend, but they hadn't met her because she lived in Canada?"

    To write a Republican Party talking point on a policy issue, any policy issue, all you need is: a noun, a verb, and 'Obamacare'.

    by MARTinNJ on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 01:49:17 PM PDT

    •  But then she'd be a socialist (0+ / 0-)

      so he'd have to break up with said girlfriend

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 04:26:49 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  It strikes me (0+ / 0-)

    ...that the last good idea the GOP had for health care (much of it by way of the Heritage Foundation, I believe) was called Romneycare, and took root in Massachusetts.

    Since it was largely adopted into the ACA, it's suddenly become caca for Republicans.  Who have yet to actually offer anything concrete other than scrapping the ACA and starting over.  Plus tort reform and selling insurance across state lines.

    Yeah.  That'll get health care insurance for everyone.

  •  There is no Republican alternative to the ACA (1+ / 0-)
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    because Republicans don't want Americans to have
    healthcare. As McCain said in the debates...
    healthcare is for the privileged not the peasants...
    (or something like that).
    Uneducated, starving and sick is what the peasants deserve,
    it keeps them voting against common sense.

  •  what's wrong with us? (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW

    these people are predicted to continue holding the House and regain the Senate this Fall. What are we doing wrong?

  •  Rob Zerban WI-01 (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW

    Let's be done with this Chuckle-head Ryan!!

    I live in WI-01 and there is a lot of discontent with Ryan.  His followers will vote, you can be quite sure of that.  But many more people don't like him.  With some work they'll vote. And they'll vote for Rob Zerban.  Rob is a good candidate and will make a good Representative for the people of WI-01.
    http://votesmart.org/...

    Here's the issue - Ryan has nearly unlimited out-of-district campaign cash and out-of-district Koch support through 'independent' groups.  

    In order to turn out the numbers needed to put Zerban over the top, there is work to do - and here in WI-01 good people are working hard.  Please, help us out.  Volunteer, donate.

    We can send Ryan back to Janesville.  The 99ers country-wide will be better for it.  The country will be better for it.

    http://www.robzerban.com/

    The only reason the 1% are rich is because the 99% agree they are.

    by GreatLakeSailor on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 02:23:01 PM PDT

  •  Paul Ryan: Improve Cost Effectiveness of Obamacare (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW

    That idiot Ryan doesn't seem to realize that SINGLE PAYER MEDICARE-FOR-ALL is the Most Cost Effective/Most Fiscally Responsible way to improve Obamacare.

    Ryan actually means he wants to end health care for the poor (Medicaid), elderly (Medicare), and uninsurable (Obamacare) altogether, but he just doesn't want people to know it since he pretends to be a good Catholic, something the Catholic bishops refuted when he pushed his Anti-Christian budget.

  •  Yes, he will do this - replace it with something (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW
    Paul Ryan wants to take health care away from millions and millions of people, and replace it with ... something.
    In the same way that he (never) specifies all the tax loopholes he always promises to close in his budgets....

    This guy is truly sick.

  •  Gotta love the "Avenue Q" reference!! (0+ / 0-)

    For those who think the last paragraph is  "gratuitous", here's the source:

    Avenue Q - "My Girlfriend Who Lives in Canada"

  •  Ryan wants (1+ / 0-)
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    to take away health care, period.

  •  Climb every mountain (0+ / 0-)

    Search high and low...
    (From Sound of Music)

    Ryan is climbing all his imaginary mountains! Again!

    Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd. Voltaire

    by Suvro on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 03:10:20 PM PDT

  •  Hey now, give Ryan a break! (0+ / 0-)

    Sure, he doesn't have anything remotely resembling a plan, but how could he?  This whole health care thing just came out of nowhere.  I mean, no one ever talked about it and then out of the blue: BANG! 7 million people on Obamacare!  Who saw that coming?

    I don't know what's been trickling down, but it hasn't been pleasant---N. Pelosi

    by Russycle on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 03:12:26 PM PDT

  •  That something would be... (1+ / 0-)
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    Mr MadAsHell

    the Free Market.  (Cue the Hallelujah chorus.)

  •  Ryans Proposal (0+ / 0-)

    Ryan's proposal should be a great gift to Democrats in the midterm elections.
    All this blah blah about private enterprise being a better path to a solution is bull poop.
    The US ranks 49th in the efficiency of its medical industry. There are 48 other countries who do it better than we do. With it's mostly for-profit medical industry the USA is also highest in per capita cost.
    What's needed is a single-payer system similar to Sweden's in which there is also a parallel private sector for those who can afford.
    However there is a progressive health care tax that all pay except the poorest.
    The motive for profit and the motive for excellent medical care are mostly in opposition.

  •  ryan not looking at the big picture (0+ / 0-)

    it must be nice to have your health insurance covered by taxpayers but mr. ryan lacks an understanding that moves beyond numbers.  his brand of math won't solve the issue of delivering health care with positive outcomes any time soon.  he clearly doesn't understand the human costs of the uninsured but he seems to know all to well what it means to profit from personal tragedy. and he clearly doesn't understand how universal health insurance would prove to be a positive development lending stability and increasing productivity to economic growth.

  •  Sounds like his budget (0+ / 0-)

    which is based on a non-existent repeal of Obamacare.

    The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

    by LiberalLady on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 04:03:48 PM PDT

  •  Maybe he'll replace health care with... (0+ / 0-)

    ...culture -- you know, that solution to poverty he came up with.  A person with good culture would not even develop a pre-existing condition because ..culture.  A person with good culture would never remain hopelessly dependent on their parents till the ripe old age of 26.  Culture.

    The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

    by LiberalLady on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 04:05:24 PM PDT

  •  Our Medical Mess (0+ / 0-)

    The USA should have a single payer system similar to Sweden's.

  •  he should call Mitt Romney (0+ / 0-)

    I hear he has a plan he got working in Massachesetts.

  •  "Do you ever get the feeling that (0+ / 0-)

    when Paul Ryan was a teenager, he spent a lot of time telling his peers that he had a girlfriend, but they hadn't met her because she lived in Canada?"

    Canada has socialized medicine.  Just sayin'

  •  Rep. Ryan? You want to replace (0+ / 0-)

    Obamacare with something better?  Hey, how about government single payer?  

  •  Bulldoze first, THEN hire an architect? (0+ / 0-)

    Ryan, dude... that works great when all you want is a parking lot.

    ... oh, now it makes sense.

    The Rich and Spoiled 1%'ers are making the Biker Gang 1%'ers look a lot better than they used to.

    by dcnblues on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 11:30:10 PM PDT

  •  Sad (0+ / 0-)

    Ryan is a sad little man, that at sometime in his life, was psychologically abused, if not physically.  If he can think and act this way, and wasn't abused, then he must be the top dog in a devil worship coven.  I've never voted for a republican in my life, but if they must exist, I sure wish we could go back to the pre-reagan republicans.  You could deal with them.  This latest batch, not only being totally uneducated in the, "Life of hard knocks", are from the depths of hell also.  They must be gone at the end of this year........purged from the body like a bad taco you ate yesterday.

  •  Ryan, a confirmed TeaBigot, (0+ / 0-)

    is showing his ignorance; just like the rest of his 'party'. All he accomplishes is showing just how many bigots there are in America. Dump them all.

    No country can be both ignorant and free - Thomas Jefferson

    by fjb on Sat Apr 05, 2014 at 10:16:29 AM PDT

  •  His Right Hand (0+ / 0-)

    I do get the feeling that his high school friends never met, not officially, his girlfriend.  But not because she lived in Canada.

    Because, well how does Ryan introduce people to his girlfriend, if she's ... his Right Hand?

    So now he's jerking us all off, with his awesome ideas for replacing the ACA with ... wait for it ... the ACA!

    Sometimes, you need a sensa uma!

    by HashHoward on Sat Apr 05, 2014 at 10:35:09 AM PDT

  •  The Replacement (0+ / 0-)

    They'll replace it with ... death.  Their plan will be so efficient they won't even need death panels, they'll just let nature, without expensive medical intervention, take its course.

  •  I don't have a thoughful and erudite comment.... (0+ / 0-)

    ...to make. Additionally, I'm going to quote another poster on here named "Penny." I realize that's mentally flaccid and intellectually lazy. Sorry. It's just that every time I see Paul Ryan, I (like Penny) just want to nut-punch him until he vomits.

    Oh, and I'm also sorry about that mental image.....

  •  Ryan (0+ / 0-)

    If America is dumb enough to elect these right wing radicals to the positions of power, then they deserve to suffer the consequences, and suffer they will. Even the dumbest must have enough common sense to determine that voting for these donkeys is a vote against their own survival.

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