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Hi again beer fans, and happy Friday! Stop in and share a cold one.

The alcoholic beverage industry, here as in most countries, is VERY heavily regulated by the government. Not always in ways that benefit either producers or consumers.

Brewers appear to have been successful in pushing back against an FDA proposal to regulate the use of spent grain as cattle feed. Spent grain is an annoying byproduct even for homebrewers, who love the option of giving it away if someone in the area will take it for livestock. For professionals who generate it by the ton, this would probably have sent much of that to landfill instead.

Here in California, the Alcoholic Beverage Commission has jumped on a poorly-worded law that went into effect last year to effectively outlaw home brewing festivals and competitions. I wish I didn't have to credit a Republican for trying to fix this; FNBB readers in CA please consider faxing members of the Governmental Organization Committee and asking them to support  AB 2609. The narrow interpretation by the ABC of the previous law is really slamming homebrewers.

In the politics of whiskey not beer, you may have read about recent debate in the Tennessee legislature to regulate what can be called "Tennessee Whiskey". The proclaimed intention was to specify standards leading to a higher-quality brand, as with the "Bourbon" label. It's only coincidental that the standards happen to match precisely the process used by Tennessee's most prominent distiller, Jack Daniel's.

Some feel the original measure serves only to stifle creativity in a burgeoning market of craft distilleries.
"If I wanted my whiskey to taste like Jack Daniel's, I'd make it like Jack Daniel's," said Phil Prichard, owner and master distiller of Prichard's Distillery in Kelso, Tenn.
If I don't say much in the comments I must still be at the homebrew club meeting. What are you drinking? Is anyone brewing?
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  •  Another 12 inches. (6+ / 0-)

    Of snow... nice malbec tonight.  Beer Saturday.  Go Badgers.

    I'm just wasting a great big Corporation and the entire fund. The girders of Wall Street And the temples of money. And the high priests Of the expense account. And Im wasting the whole thing. J. Strummer

    by bongojazz on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 06:57:55 PM PDT

  •  I'm drinking my own IPA, and I have to say it (5+ / 0-)

    is quite good.  I'll be boiling an APA in the morning.

    So I see only tatters of clearness through a pervading obscurity - Annie Dillard -6.88, -5.33

    by illinifan17 on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 07:02:34 PM PDT

  •  Good evening everyone and happy Friday (2+ / 0-)
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    mungley, Tonedevil

    I just got home from taking my daughter to karate.

    Just poured a Port Brewing Mongo IPA. Tasting great as always.

  •  Sidhe update: Just finished brewing. (5+ / 0-)

    Made my Nut Brown.

    I've brought on three interns to learn how I do stuff so I have backup. License crunch time is upon me.

    This weeks biggest issue was firing my web/marketing guy for non-delivery. This means my website is down and my company email is disconnected. New domain is:

    I hope to recover the old one, and have it point to the new, or vice versa.


    Michele Bachmann
    is a manipulative homophobe. And soon to just be a bad memory!

    by Transactivist on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 07:45:37 PM PDT

    •  Use Google for your email using... (4+ / 0-)
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      mungley, Grainpaw, Mike Kahlow, Tonedevil

      Google Apps, not worth going through any other email server.

      I ran a web design and hosting business for years. When Google Apps came around I moved all of my customers off of my mail server to Google. So much better.

      It's no longer free, but still worth it. From my recommendation my school district now runs all the districts mail through Google Apps for Education.

      •  Do you have any suggestions (2+ / 0-)
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        Tonedevil, bsegel

        on the simplest, cheapest way for my brew supply shop to take credit cards and have a website with a shopping cart? It's past time for me to get a little bigger and busier.
        I use Quickbooks Point of Sale 2006 on a laptop, have a card reader I've never used, a website that is just a picture of the front of the business card (, and my wife maintains a facebook page for The Cellar.
        My knees are shot from arthritis. I need to get away from my greenhouse job, build a garage at home to move the business to (out of the flood zone), and have something I enjoy and can continue to do while semi-retired. People are yearning for an in-state supply source, and I need the money worse than the established internet shops. Moonshining is having a boom here. A few TV shows and old granpaw's tales, and everyone thinks they've got the hang of it, but they come to me for help. the closest i've come to distilling is the time I went through the stands after a college football game and rounded up two paper grocery sacks of partially full wine and booze bottles and carried them to a friend's apartment three blocks away. Some how we figured a way to distill on his stove top and ran it all together. Then he and his roommate drank it all before I could get back there. But customers give me samples. I want to brew wort for scotch and bourbon, have a customer run them, and fill two 5 gallon barrels to forget about for ten years. I'm good about keeping stuff like that. For that matter, I have beer in the crawlspace that's years old, but it's literally a pain in the ass to go in after it.

        The man who worries morning and night about the dandelions in the lawn will find great relief in learning to love the dandelions. Liberty Hyde Bailey, 1910

        by Grainpaw on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 08:54:15 PM PDT

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        •  This guy is doing it... (2+ / 0-)
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          bsegel, Grainpaw

          in my town Brew Ferment Distill. The owner is really open and friendly when I go in you might reach out to see if he can give you some tips. No doubt he will be even more helpful if you are outside of Sacramento, CA.

          This makes about as much sense as Mike Huckabee on mescaline. - Prodigal 2-6-2008

          by Tonedevil on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 09:27:51 PM PDT

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        •  The easiest way to go (2+ / 0-)
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          Tonedevil, Grainpaw

          in my opinion is to first set up a Google App account. You can point your domain there and get your email and use Google Sites for your web page. Google Sites is not the best option, but once you have the account it's there, so you can use it until you want to upgrade to something nicer.

          I sent up a Google Sites website for my kids Karate studio here if you'd like to see what it's like. That's just one example, you can do quite a bit with their web based templates.

          As I said above, they are the best for email even if you chose to put your website someplace else.

          For accepting payment both on the site and in person I'd suggest you go with PayPal. It's flat out the easiest way to do it. You'll have to add in Paypal's cut to your prices, which is around 2.5% (can't recall the exact amount) but it's supper easy to use.

          When I was the yearbook adviser for my kids school's yearbook I set up a PayPal account so we could collect money at the website and people could pay us with a credit card in person, made it really easy and convenient. Of course it does mean that you have to own a smart phone or a tablet to accept payment in person. There is a new brewery and pub here in town that uses paypal on an iPad for all of their business, it's pretty cool.

    •  Good luck. (2+ / 0-)
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      Tonedevil, bsegel

      I just set up a website for my wife's "law firm" (solo practice). Domain, email, servers, content management system, changing CSS code... yikes. I only do it myself 'cuz... I don't know.

      The intertubes are still a bit of the wild wild west.

      Screw John Galt. Who's John Doe?

      by Mike Kahlow on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 08:26:11 PM PDT

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  •  Howdy! Happy Friday. (4+ / 0-)
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    Mike Kahlow, TomFromNJ, Tonedevil, bsegel

    I started with an Anchor IPA. It's quite good.
    I rank it among their good ones: CA Lager, Liberty Ale and Anchor Porter. (Original is good most of the time too)

    I ain't often right, but I've never been wrong. Seldom turns out the way it does in this song.

    by mungley on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 08:18:19 PM PDT

  •  I skipped brewing a couple of Sundays (2+ / 0-)
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    Tonedevil, bsegel

    when I shouldn't have and ran out of beer on tap. Had a bottle of #666 The Bock of Re-evaluations. It took me 1 hour and 35 minutes to enjoy that. Otherwise, I've been drinking a bottle of peach wine each of the last four evenings, and am damned well going to keg the 13-day old Chocolate Porter on Saturday. I have a Courage Directors Bitter in primary, and plan to brew a variation of that on Sunday. Running out of beer stresses me. Wine is OK, but not every day.

    The man who worries morning and night about the dandelions in the lawn will find great relief in learning to love the dandelions. Liberty Hyde Bailey, 1910

    by Grainpaw on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 08:31:15 PM PDT

  •  Saw This at Trader Joe's...Tried a Bottle Tonight (2+ / 0-)
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    bsegel, Tonedevil

    Dunkelweizen....I thought it was quite good.....and at $6.99 a six in Staten Island, priced right.....


  •  Mission Brewery... (1+ / 0-)
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    Dark Seas, a Russian Imperial Stout, that's what I'm drinking. Dark, malty, and roasty with a good kick (9.8 alc.). I had a Homeland Stout earlier that is made by the New Helvetia Brewery with Naked Coffee for flavor. A good one although my roommate felt it was too bitter.
    One last note, my brother and I boiled an Irish Red last weekend and plan to boil a stout with the same yeast this coming weekend. In years past we have taken 2nd and 3rd place ribbons at the California State Fair, but it's been a few years since we were active. Here's hoping for the elusive 1st place.

    This makes about as much sense as Mike Huckabee on mescaline. - Prodigal 2-6-2008

    by Tonedevil on Fri Apr 04, 2014 at 09:08:12 PM PDT

  •  Got an IPA in the fermentor (0+ / 0-)

    I'm waiting for a good day to bottle and brew at the same time as I'd like to pitch right on top of the yeast cake.  Things get complicated with kids, playdates, swim lessons, etc.

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