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Ummm, hmmmm, Costa Rica? Ooops, better watch my snark....

Actually my recommendations tend to be where I know and that is pretty much the North East, it is less of a culture shock than say the Ozarks.

Vegas baby? Not my cup of tea but if you want to get fleeced by  the likes of Sheldon Adelson be my guest, or his. to be more precise.

Disney world /land, but we have one here....hmmm.

Obviously the countryside pretty much anywhere

When asked about guns, yep we haz em.

When asked about religion, well yes we haz it

Where to actually reccomend....hmmm, OK Essex County Vermont


How dare you say I'm biased

It is a question I am asked pretty frequently, and to be fair I try and give  good advice, but then again it depends what you are looking for as it is one hell of a big place.

Your recommendations? Hawaii the capital of Kenya?

2:58 PM PT: Nobody recommend a baseball game, I do, nothing more Patriotic than that I say.

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  •  Canada (9+ / 0-)

    seriously, mainly Blue states since the quality of life is better hence the availability of more amenities, although not necessarily the best sightseeing which is often in Red states

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

    by annieli on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:09:30 PM PDT

  •  Essex County is nice (5+ / 0-)

    However is a bitch to get to unless you fly into Quebec and drive across. I always say Boston first if it you are visiting in the summer. And from their you have a wide range of choices.

    Frankly, I’m getting more than a little tired of hearing from angry America. I’m also less than fond of knee-jerk America. And when you combine the two with the Internet, you too often get stupid America, which is really annoying.

    by jsfox on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:14:03 PM PDT

  •  I was an expat in Europe for many years. (10+ / 0-)

    I always suggested New England, for the history, and Texas for the strip clubs.

    I'm not kidding.

    Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

    by commonmass on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:16:39 PM PDT

    •  My most common recommendation (5+ / 0-)

      is to arrive in Boston and come back via Quebec, get some good seafood in Maine on the way

    •  Everything's bigger in Texas. (2+ / 0-)
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      Philadelphia > Boston for history and food.  Too many tourists just hit Independence hall between DC and NY.  I don't think there's much in DC that'd be of interest to Euros, really, and what European doesn't want to see gen-u-ine Amish?

      Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

      by Loge on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:51:32 PM PDT

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      •  DC, the museums and History of the US (5+ / 0-)

        DAR Constitution Hall is excellent

        •  Smithsonian, yeah, (4+ / 0-)

          at least air and space.  Especially with kids.   Philly's got the Franklin Institute, Art Museum, and Academy of Natural Sciences, though.  New York is dingy and crowded for my taste, but for others it's worth it to fly halfway around the world to see the Met and MoMA.  

          It's a big enough country, it's like asking about visiting "Europe," and trying to figure out London, Rome, the Alps, and Ibiza.  New England is one trip, the Midlantic is another, the parks are out west so a third.   Still, Philly's a good base of operations since it's interesting in itself and closer to other cities.

          Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

          by Loge on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 03:07:20 PM PDT

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      •  Pennsylvania Amish country... (4+ / 0-)

        I drove through there once on US 30.  I will not drive through there a second time.  It's an endless parade of tourist kitsch combined with a profound lack of sensitivity to Amish culture.  

        If you must "see" Amish, then consider the infrared districts south and east of Elkhart.  Nappanee is the place where the state sends the tourists.  You'll know that you're close when you see extra lanes built for Amish bicyclists and buggies.  Amish Acres is a tourist trap...tread wisely.

        Since turnabout is fair play, take I-80/90 between Toledo and Elkhart on a Sunday afternoon to give the Amish a good chance to look at you from their buggies on the overpass!


        "Politics should be the part-time profession of every citizen who would protect the rights and privileges of free people and who would preserve what is good and fruitful in our national heritage." -- Lucille Ball

        by Yamaneko2 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 05:02:40 PM PDT

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    •  With you on the choice of Texas for the strip ... (1+ / 0-)
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      clubs, but I would take Charelston SC for the history lessons (both Civil War and Revolutionary War) with a touch of class for after spending all that time taking in the beauty of the city and the history, there are excellent choices in terms of restaurants for an evening meal.....  And other places for a nightcap with a walk along the waterfront in The Battery before calling it a night with your significant other.

      “My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there." - Rumi

      by LamontCranston on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 08:28:51 PM PDT

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  •  If it wasn't located in Arizona, then I'd say (15+ / 0-)

    the Grand Canyon.  But I'm biased towards the Coast of California, especially Highway 1 from Santa Barbara to San Francisco with stops in Big Sur, Carmel, Monterey.

    "Man's main task in life is to give birth to himself; to become what he potentially is." -Erich Fromm

    by nspguy on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:17:58 PM PDT

  •  Yosemite or any blue state with a national park (12+ / 0-)

    nosotros no somos estúpidos

    by a2nite on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:18:17 PM PDT

  •  Nantucket or the great National Parks in (7+ / 0-)

    the West.

    •  My dad still has a small apartment in (5+ / 0-)

      Newport RI, I love it there, it has been awhile

      •  I know Newport well and that is a starting point (5+ / 0-)

        for a lot of great excursions.
        Have always had trouble with food and the French in the US. I sent a young French couple to Glacier National Park and it went over well except they were appalled when they ordered trout at a nice restaurant and they did not get fish knives.

      •  I want to go to Newport for genealogy (1+ / 0-)
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        If you see streets, cemeteries, landmarks with the names Coggeshall, Easton, Rodman, Tefft, Jenckes, Ballard, Sherman (and any names that married into those families) in and around Newport, chances are they were my ancestors or related to me.  Friends Burying Ground is in Newport and my first American Rodman and two of his wives are buried there.  Coggeshalls have their own burying ground, as do the Eastons.

        They lived in interesting times.  Two of them signed the Portsmouth Compact (John Coggeshall & Philip Sherman).  John Coggeshall was the first president of RI, died in office in 1647.  Nicholas Easton was the fourth and eighth president of RI.

        I think there's a Rodman street/avenue in Portsmouth named for my Thomas Rodman, too - at least I seem to remember something about that a long time ago on a map.  If not Portsmouth, then Newport.

        Still, it would be a wonderful thing to see where some of my ancestors lived.

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 08:45:19 PM PDT

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    •  I was an NPS volunteer and have backpacked (2+ / 0-)
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      around a lot of NPS sites.

      Foreign tourists are usually pretty impressed by western NPS sites. Mountains here are majestic and public lands (including Forest Service, BLM. Reclamation,  NPS, other federal and state lands) are massive  and mostly undeveloped by most standards.

      We also have a lot of animals here that aren't found anywhere else.

      I always recommended that people travel north toward Portland and Seattle. That allows them, depending on time, to head east toward Glacier, Yellowstone, etc. It also allows them to head into Canada if they're able. BC is great. Banff and Jasper are wonderful. Lake Louise is a gem.

      Often, European tourists have a lot of time. The US/CAN Northwest is a great trip.

      © grover

      So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

      by grover on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 04:07:31 PM PDT

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  •  Depends on what they like. (10+ / 0-)

    Culture?  New York City, San Francisco, maybe Chicago.

    History (US, anyway)?  Boston, Philadelphia, Washington DC.

    The great outdoors?  National parks (I'm partial to the Grand Canyon, Yosemite and Yellowstone, great for first-timers with a rental car, but Sequoia, Arches, Zion and Bryce are favorites, too).

    Skiing?  Lots of great places, but Vail, Tahoe, and Park City stand out.

    Surfing or paragliding?  San Diego!

    Beer tasting?  San Diego!

    Wine tasting?  Napa and/or Sonoma.

    Much more along the same lines.

    "Democrat" is a noun. "Democratic" is an adjective. "Republican" is an idiot. Illigitimi non carborundum. Regardless of Party.

    by TheOrchid on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:24:28 PM PDT

  •  I'm no expat.... (19+ / 0-)

    ...but if someone from a foreign country were to ask me where in the USA they should travel, my first and unequivocal answer would be our National Parks.

    Other parts of the world have cities, theme parks, and casinos—but only in the USA will one find the Grand Canyon, the Grand Tetons, Yellowstone, Glacier, the Yosemite Valley, Zion, the Smokies, Crater Lake, giant sequoias.

    And our national parks express the ideal of democracy—one that we sadly fail to live up to far too often in other areas of our natural life.

    Our most majestic natural wonders are available to anyone who can get there, for a small fee—a fee that pays the people who preserve and make more intelligible the wonders of nature and their connection to our nation's history and peoples.

    Skip Disneyland, ignore New York, bypass all of Florida, and avoid Vegas like the plague. Head out into the wilderness. (And then, if you have time, maybe head into the city to catch a major league baseball game or two.)

    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

    by JamesGG on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:24:37 PM PDT

    •  Excellent. (3+ / 0-)
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      Tipped especially for avoiding Vegas like the plague.  Years ago we had friends from the UK visit and we took them to Dodger Stadium.  They still remember it to this day.  Been visiting us every year for the last 30, but we've never gone back to a baseball game.

      "Man's main task in life is to give birth to himself; to become what he potentially is." -Erich Fromm

      by nspguy on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:30:36 PM PDT

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    •  Florida has the Everglades (1+ / 0-)
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      rl en france

      and you CAN get away from the Disneyish sprawl there. We drove the Tamiami highway and driving along the park (which is essentially a road running parallel to the highway but much more rustic) was a naturalist's paradise! And the little island of Sanibel (and the seashells!) was charming. The natural areas are wonderful - and rather extensive.

      So, I wouldn't write off Florida entirely.

      Watch out for alligators though. They are creepy when they size you up for a meal. Still sends shivers up my spine!

      "one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress" -- John Adams

      by blue armadillo on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 06:17:14 PM PDT

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      •  True, the Everglades are lovely. (0+ / 0-)

        I'd forgotten about that. Every time we visit my brother in Naples, we do an airboat tour of the Everglades.

        So, dear foreigners: Don't skip Florida entirely. But try not to judge us on the basis of what you see while you're getting from the airport in Miami, Orlando, or Tampa to the Everglades. Not all of America has that many strip clubs per capita, we promise.

        "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

        by JamesGG on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 07:05:55 AM PDT

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    •  I have had this conversation (1+ / 0-)
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      with Europeans. for years  It goes like this:
      go to the national parks.  jackson hole, Yosemite.
      but i go to Switzerland and austria

      I am not sure which is prettier - the alps or the tetons - but i get their point.

      how about the beach.  we have nice beaches.  but there are very good ones in Portugal for instance.

      in the end it always comes down to this:
      have you been to ny (yes) but i am more than willing to go again. A lot of the europeans i know love ny
      and almost everyone wants to see California. most want to see dc.

      but really most of them at some point wind up going to fucking disney world where us Floridians can spot them because of the horrible red sunburn they get. Seriously the brits and the germans are the worst - after three days they look like they have spray tans - with sunburn instead of a tan. I don't know if there is some law against sun lotion there, but some of the brits in particular look awful.

      •  There's nothing in Europe like the Grand Canyon. (1+ / 0-)
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        Or the sequoias of Yosemite and Sequoia, for that matter.

        And Europe is notably lacking in deserts, so Zion, Joshua Tree, and Death Valley are also must-sees.

        Not to mention the geysers of Yellowstone; the only place in Europe with that much geothermal action is Iceland (which I also highly recommend to anyone... a surprisingly good honeymoon spot, in my experience).

        "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

        by JamesGG on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 07:10:50 AM PDT

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        •  The Grand Canyon (0+ / 0-)

          ... isn't even the deepest or longest canyon in North America, let alone the world. Just because Europe isn't big on canyons doesn't make the Grand Canyon that remarkable on a global scale. And if your goal is "impressive", it's not simply a measure of total depth/length that matters. I mean, personally I find canyon scenes like this from France more impressive.

          Of course you can pick out specific aspects that your country excels in, but that only works if you pick the categories of comparison. Here, let's do Iceland vs. America: the categories are largest volcanic canyon, largest glacial sand plain, deadliest volcano, highest volcanic material output, highest per-capita water reserves, greatest quantity of mid-oceanic rift, and highest odds of owning your own private waterfall.

          The day I'll consider justice blind is the day that a rape defendant's claim of "She consented to the sex" is treated by the same legal standards as a robbery defendant's claim of "He consented to give me the money": as an affirmative defense.

          by Rei on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 08:47:54 PM PDT

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    •  FARM TEAMS, never mind the pros! (1+ / 0-)
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      rl en france

      We attended about a decade of the AAA farm team in our town (they're a scion of the San Diego Padres). We had/have a WPA Wooden Stadium here in Eugene. Wooden bleachers; faces east and has a back wall & roof so over half the seats are shaded in the summer! Very close to downtown. It was Wonderful! Just what a baseball game experience was supposed to be. Our teams weren't great, but the game experience sure was, 8-)!

      Then about 5 years ago the family that's had the local franchise since forever decided the old stadium was just TOO pokey and did a deal with the local college to share a new field. So now if you want to go to an Ems game you have to go out to the U's ginormous football facility and hunt around for the little bitty (but very modern!) baseball diamond. With its metal bleacher seats in the full sun. We've never tried it.

      So, if you have a local farm team, I'd suggest that, rather than driving most of the day to get to the nearest big-city Team.

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 11:51:48 PM PDT

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      •  Every time my wife and I travel in the US... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...we make sure to hit any minor-league ballpark where a home game is being played. I love minor-league ball, and would highly recommend it to any American or foreigner who wants to get a real feel for the people of a given part of the US. And the beer's a hell of a lot cheaper than $9.

        But there's something about a major-league baseball game that I think makes it a quintessential American experience—and it's something to do in the major cities, where any foreign visitor is going to have to spend at least a little bit of time because they're where the big international airports are.

        "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

        by JamesGG on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 07:15:42 AM PDT

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  •  Uhh... foreigner here (raises hand). (10+ / 0-)

    So, which places would you recommend visiting to a foreigner who is fond of Poe and Lovecraft, who has a bit of antiquarian soul, likes classical music, but enjoys Emilie Autumn when depressed or stressed out.

    Why am I asking? Uhh... no reason. It's... erm... it's for a friend. Honest!


    Iuris praecepta sunt haec: Honeste vivere, alterum non laedere, suum cuique tribuere. - Ulpian, Digestae 1, 3

    by Dauphin on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:25:21 PM PDT

  •  Yellow Stone NP (6+ / 0-)

    Yellow Stone NP is a hit with foreigners.  If you go there in Sept after school starts, most of the visitors are from OUS.  Would also recommend NYC and Wash DC for cities.

  •  Some thoughts (11+ / 0-)

    The National Parks are great. All of them. Any of them. My favorites are mostly in Utah and California (Zion, Bryce, Arches, Canyonlands, Joshua Tree, Yosemite, Sequoia) but there are amazing ones all over the place. Yellowstone is freaking incredible, as is Grand Teton.

    Sedona, AZ is spectacular though not a NP.

    For cities that aren't on the east coast, you can't beat San Francisco, Seattle, and New Orleans. Especially if you are a foodie. San Francisco is the kind of place you can be a tourist in for weeks on end without getting bored. New Orleans is best experienced during Jazzfest, which is the best adult vacation there is. Seattle is fabulous in the summer, and if you go there make sure to do a day trip to Vancouver, which is a stunningly gorgeous city.

    For B&B experiences, it's hard to beat the northern and central California coasts.

  •  You might want to check out the (4+ / 0-)
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    climate articles discussing the Kelvin wave developing in the Pacific that is likely to generate a whopping El Nino.

     Short version: avoid most of the west & south west to stay out of rain, floods, snow...  NW may not be as bad but this wave is much bigger and warmer than anything on record.

    The last really nasty El Nino was '97-'98.  Folks from other areas of the country are reminiscing about their experiences in that one here: Monster El Nino Forming In The Pacific

    "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

    by Ginny in CO on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:26:29 PM PDT

  •  Please boycott all leisure travel to the U.S. (4+ / 0-)

    Unless and until it stops murdering civilians with drone missiles. We are not capable of changing our government's American Exceptionalist brand of genocide so we need the help of other nations.

    While you are at it, petition your host countries to place the U.S. in the category of terrorist nations please.


    a veteran

    I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony

    by pajoly on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:26:33 PM PDT

    •  I'm an optimist if more Americans get to (7+ / 0-)

      meet foreigners then maybe......hmmmmmm...?

      •  actually Euro-tourists in SF are quite amusing (3+ / 0-)
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        since they actually use public transit and really fit in quite well

        Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

        by annieli on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:32:30 PM PDT

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      •  Only the potential loss of money or the promise (0+ / 0-)

        of financial gain motivates our government. We need to be shamed into action. I wish the foreign press were louder on the issue. Frequent banner headlines in Der Speigel or La Monde would be nice that translated something like,

        "Americans Murder 600th Innocent Child in Attempt to Take Out Terrorists Its Policy Creates"


        "Has the U.S. Become a Threat to Global Peace?"


        "America Policy: 'We Kill To Keep You Safe;' Germans Respond, 'We've Heard That Before.' "

        I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony

        by pajoly on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:42:08 PM PDT

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    •  there's a TV channel that provides drone (1+ / 0-)
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      trips of the US as its programming: Aerial America

      Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "I’m not the strapping young Muslim socialist that I used to be" - Barack Obama 04/27/2013 (@eState4Column5).

      by annieli on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:30:19 PM PDT

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    •  I don't know. Someone once told me not to blame an (5+ / 0-)

      entire group of people for the actions of a few.  This country has many beautiful places and beautiful people despite what bad things our government may do.

      "Man's main task in life is to give birth to himself; to become what he potentially is." -Erich Fromm

      by nspguy on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:35:35 PM PDT

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      •  I've traveled in every state, save for Alaska (0+ / 0-)

        and I agree. Our nation is full of natural beauty, wonders and plenty of lovely people, but supposedly democratic societies must be held accountable for the actions of their governments.

        I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony

        by pajoly on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:45:31 PM PDT

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        •  I don't think you hold governments accountable by (0+ / 0-)

          boycotting leisure travel.  You're punishing a lot of people who may agree with you but whose livelihoods are directly tied to foreign tourism. I also think it falls on our own people to hold our government accountable and that's done at the ballot box.  Or at least it should be.

          "Man's main task in life is to give birth to himself; to become what he potentially is." -Erich Fromm

          by nspguy on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 03:01:54 PM PDT

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          •  That's the point (1+ / 0-)
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            of sanctions period. Spread the pain around to force people to end their apathy.

            As Americans, we are accountable collectively for the result of our elections (maybe 2000 not entirely withstanding).

            It is okay to agree that we don't agree on the issue. I admit I'm a bit of a tough love sort of person.

            I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. - Susan B. Anthony

            by pajoly on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 03:24:39 PM PDT

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            •  the point of sanctions (0+ / 0-)

              is to target them so that they severely disrupt the particular sectors of the economy that influence the political system, or enable said country to have the ability to carry out such acts.

              tourism is not a strategic industry, and its revenues do not influence the military industrial complex nor its puppets in DC. it's a poor target for applying pressure over anything except tourism-related misdeeds, or to states disproportionately reliant on tourism (ie. florida).

    •  What country are you in? (0+ / 0-)

      Because no doubt we'll come up with reasons to boycott you.

      Best Scientist Ever Predicts Bacon Will Be Element 119 On The Periodic Table

      by dov12348 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 03:00:34 PM PDT

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      •  Oh, wait. You're here. (0+ / 0-)


        Best Scientist Ever Predicts Bacon Will Be Element 119 On The Periodic Table

        by dov12348 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 03:01:24 PM PDT

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        •  You sound like one of those "My country, (0+ / 0-)

          Love it or leave it" people during the Vietnam war protests.

          "Why are you here?" is the wrong way to conduct a discussion or debate.  What it says is, "I have no counter argument, so I'll divert to questioning your right to raise an objection."

          It is an authoritarian response which does not permit discussion. An odd response in a supposedly democratic society. The point of democracy is that people have different opinions and are free to discuss them.  

          Why do you hate democracy?

          "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

          by YucatanMan on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 10:35:00 AM PDT

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          •  Seriously though (0+ / 0-)

            Why would you want to live in a terrorist country?  There must be an enormous amount of good going on there, I suppose?

            I'm not saying love it or leave it.  Just seems majorly inconsistent.

            Best Scientist Ever Predicts Bacon Will Be Element 119 On The Periodic Table

            by dov12348 on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 12:06:54 PM PDT

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            •  When there is a wrong, try to correct it. (0+ / 0-)

              Rather than run away from wrongs, make the country better.

              People who point out wrongs are showing the way to wrongs being corrected. If no one did that, wouldn't things run downhill?

              "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

              by YucatanMan on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 01:04:55 PM PDT

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              •  Ok, I hear ya. (0+ / 0-)

                So agreed though that one major difference between the US being what you call a "terrorist" state and other terrorist states is the the US allows citizen critics of its government the freedom and right to criticize it?

                Secondly would you agree that the US is not really a built-in terrorist state - just that certain individual heads of state start bad wars?

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                by dov12348 on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 01:43:58 PM PDT

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                •  And other heads of state expand on their tactics (0+ / 0-)

                  to even higher levels.  

                  What I would agree with is that the USA has committed terrorism in nations around the world for decades. Peru, Chile, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Honduras, Iran, Guatemala.... the list is longer than both my arms.

                  If a country commits terrorism by fomenting revolts, assassinations, commits murders themselves, repeatedly violate international law, illegally bombs nations with whom we have no grudge (you might think "drones" and that's right, but I'm thinking Laos, Cambodia... and more), trades arms for hostages, trains terrorists and assassins, pays them and arms them.... then is that a "terrorist nation"?  

                  Well, I guess it depends on if you are the family of raped and murdered nuns, democratically elected leaders, or the thousands of dead in many countries in every corner of the world, doesn't it?  Because through their eyes, whoever did that would be a terrorist, wouldn't they?

                  If your family were cut to pieces by machetes by trained killers, what would you call that? Terrorism? And what of the country who trained the killers in the "School of the Americas" and paid them to do their jobs?

                  "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

                  by YucatanMan on Wed Apr 09, 2014 at 09:12:58 PM PDT

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  •  I am not much of a traveler (3+ / 0-)
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    but mostly I enjoy myself by keeping an open mind and trying new things from the locale I am visiting.I have never been disappointed as I was always prepared to be pleased.   I would think almost any big city or natural wonder in the US could be a great destination.   But then again, I live in Georgia, so what do I know?  :P

  •  Wanna Hear Advice to Us re: Visiting Scotland? (5+ / 0-)

    Good gawd, mon, don't try to see the whole thing in just 3 weeks.

    Scotland's maybe the size of Ohio or a couple small NE states. We ended up doing 1/4 Ohio's worth of visit, came home exhausted.

    For visitors coming to the US everything would depend on the mix of indoor, outdoor, cultural and recreational interests they had.

    But it'd sure be hard to not recommend San Fran.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:32:42 PM PDT

  •  Oregon coastline is spectaculer (7+ / 0-)

    Peppered with small little towns, amazing pinch-yourself-to-see-if-you're-dreaming views, enchanted forests. Rent a car, drive. See Portland, Seattle, Vancouver, Canada.

    Maybe take in the coast down to SF. Circle over to Yosemite.

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    by ZhenRen on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:32:44 PM PDT

  •  Austin, TX (3+ / 0-)
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    There is no Austin in Europe. Extra points for going during any of the SXSW weeks.

  •  The best places in our USA? (8+ / 0-)

    I know, I had soulful experiences:  Yellowstone in Winter.  Rent a Snow Coach and travel through wilderness only seen by few.  A lucky few.  Buffalo belly deep in the snow; coyotes hunting mice.  The wolf-watchers in the Lamar Valley know every detail of the wolves' lives and will tell you.  Birds: swans in snow, ravens, ducks, herons.  Bring your camera, be respectful.

    Alaska: the Kenai peninsula in late fall: bald eagles and brown bears seeking salmon.  Breathtaking.

    I wish I could go there again.  

  •  Who's asking? (2+ / 0-)
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    The answer depends so much on the preferences of the the person(s) asking the question.

    Years ago we had a memorable trip east that included a week in DC and 4 or 5 days in Williamsburg. On the latter, we still did not see and do all we wanted to of Colonial Williamsburg. Friends who had been assured us 4 days was way too long - we could do the Cloonial Wiliamsburg part easily in a day, and maybe a second day for Busch Gardens, and that was about it for the area. Obviously, our interests and preferences were drastically different.

    Others have mentioned California, and it's a really good choice for the variety. Mountains and oceans within hours of each other. Good old "Americana" like rodeos, or gold rush country. Even easy enough to pop over the border to Reno/Tahoe for casino action."Furriners" often tend to be a bit fascinated by the Hollywod history and glamour, but then you've got San Francisco and the Wine Country for a bit more cosmopolitan flavor.

    “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

    by Catte Nappe on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:39:05 PM PDT

    •  Never said it was an esy question, I tend to (0+ / 0-)

      recommend for a first visit area a little similar to Europe.

      Boston is a great introduction

      •  Hmm (0+ / 0-)

        "An area similar to Europe". I'm not sure what to think about that. From this side of the ocean, the equivalent would be to recommend a part of Europe more similar to the US. That would mean London, vs Rome or Florence or Bavaria.

        “Texas is a so-called red state, but you’ve got 10 million Democrats here in Texas. And …, there are a whole lot of people here in Texas who need us, and who need us to fight for them.” President Obama

        by Catte Nappe on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:50:16 PM PDT

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  •  My spouse is German (3+ / 0-)
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    We have visited almost all parts of the lower 48 and a lot of Canada.

    Of course, what amazes a German are the open spaces. The great spaces with next to nothing (western Kansas and eastern Colorado) is amazing to her.  We both love Rocky Mountain National Park and the Grand Canyon (the last time we visited there were a great number of Europeans).  We are planning to return to Zion.

    San Francisco and New York City come close to being European cities because a lot of it is walkable.

    New Orleans has a very distinct charm.  

    Vancouver may be the best city in North America.

    My spouse has visited a lot of Civil War battlefields, but I don't think she would have done it without me.

    The only reason to visit Las Vegas is to see the American conception of what constitutes interesting places to visit.  

    [Medicare, and Medicaid, and Social Security] do not make us a nation of takers; they free us to take the risks that make this country great.

    by MoDem on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:39:41 PM PDT

  •  Nashville has been my most pleasant surprise (1+ / 0-)
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    I was expecting nothing but found it friendly and fun and I'm not even into country.

  •  In January, Colorado skiing (4+ / 0-)
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    In February  Mardi Gras in New Orleans

    I March Miami and Panama City Florida for spring break.

    In April to the Grand Canyon in Arizona

    In May Las Vegas (befoe it gets too hot)

    In June  Yellowstone in Wyoming

    In July Venice Beach and SoCal.

    In August  San Francisco and NorCal  (before it gets cold).

    In September Charleston So Carolina to get a flavor of the old South

    In October New York (you got to go there at least in Oct, still somewhat warm)

    In November  Honolulu and Hawaii.  Beautiful all year and not too crowded in November.

    In December Dallas (Fort Worth) for a rodeo.

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    by Shockwave on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:44:01 PM PDT

    •  Colorado Skiing in January? (1+ / 0-)
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      ick...cold as hell and still won't have full coverage.  Utah is has better snow in January, but March in Colorado is amazing.  Good snow, good coverage, and you can hang out in a t shirt while drinking a local brew at the base.

  •  Mt. Rainier National the summer. (4+ / 0-)

    I forget your question, but that's my answer.

    by glb3 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:45:12 PM PDT

  •  san francisco and new york (4+ / 0-)

    and some national parks. if you find yourself flying into vegas, immediately rent a car and head east to zion or west to death valley.

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    by Laurence Lewis on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 02:46:12 PM PDT

  •  In addition to all these nice-place suggestions (4+ / 0-)
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    A furriner should also see 'Murca as it truly is...

    * Have them visit a vile, closed-minded fundamentalist church in the Bible Belt.

    * Have them visit poverty ridden inner-city neighborhoods. Then have them drive through the gleaming wealthy towers of Wall Street.

    * Have them visit mined mountaintops in West Virginia.

    * Have them visit endless fracking in North Dakota.

    After all, we wouldn't want them to get the wrong ideas about this country, would we?

    As through this world I've wandered,
    I've seen lots of funny men;
    Some will rob you with a six-gun,
    Some with a fountain pen.
    -- Woody Guthrie

    by Senor Unoball on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 03:18:19 PM PDT

    •  Oh I think the news takes care of that (2+ / 0-)
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      why be cruel.

      •  Well yeah, there is that.... (5+ / 0-)

        Here's my serious answer then.

        I'd have them rent a car on one coast and drive to the other.

        They are forbidden to even touch an Interstate, and must not drive faster than 55 mph.

        When they hit, say, 300 miles in a day, they find the nearest non-chain (if possible) hotel for the night.

        When they are hungry at lunchtime, they cannot go to any national fast-food place.

        They should do this between mid-September and mid-October, or late April to mid-May.

        This way they can truly see the vast beauty of the US, and will be able to meet and talk with the generally fine people who live all over this country.

        As through this world I've wandered,
        I've seen lots of funny men;
        Some will rob you with a six-gun,
        Some with a fountain pen.
        -- Woody Guthrie

        by Senor Unoball on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 03:51:08 PM PDT

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  •  Honestly (0+ / 0-)

    Go somewhere else, is my advice.  This country is fucked and is just depressing to look at.  Go visit a rational society instead.

  •  california (0+ / 0-)

    there's an incredible amount of things to see and do here, more than enough to fill out your tourist visa. mountains, beaches, wine country, rain forests, camping, hiking, dining and cities with character.

  •  Do you like beer? (1+ / 0-)
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    Fall line

    Boulder/Denver area is great for that.  Not to mention the scenery.

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    by RichM on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 04:04:10 PM PDT

  •  Alaska. (1+ / 0-)
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    You can spend an entire European holiday exploring Alaska (and perhaps wander over into the Yukon) and still not see half of what it has to offer.

    Fly over the North Pole for the most direct flight.

    That's what I'd recommend if someone asked me, especially if they were able to travel during shoulder season.

    © grover

    So if you get hit by a bus tonight, would you be satisfied with how you spent today, your last day on earth? Live like tomorrow is never guaranteed, because it's not. -- Me.

    by grover on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 04:11:15 PM PDT

  •  come on down to beautiful Oregon (0+ / 0-)

    Portland's got a weird vibe, come see the Oregon Trail, Pacific coast here is absolutely gorgeous. If they are into skiing/snowboarding, plenty of that here. Lets see, there is the Oregon Vortex, which is pretty interesting. Crater lake, of course. Silver Creek Falls in Silverton Oregon is a local favorite, and virtually unknown to people outside of oregon.

  •  Sort of depends what they are looking for . . . (0+ / 0-)

    A couple thoughts:
    -southern Utah for Zion, Bryce, Capital Reefs, Arches & Canyonlands NPs (easy to add in some National Monuments and/or Mesa Verde and even the north rim of the Grand Canyon)
    -out here in California we have Yosemite (which can be combined with San Francisco, the redwoods of Muir Woods and the wine country)
    -for beaches, definitely Hawaii (I prefer Kauai, Big Island or Maui - in that order)

    When a whole nation is roaring Patriotism at the top of its voice, I am fain to explore the cleanness of its hands and the purity of its heart. - Emerson

    by foolrex on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 04:27:25 PM PDT

  •  Come visit the big apple! (2+ / 0-)
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    I'm biased, but I must recommend New York City. There are so many options and yes, depending on the time of year do  take in a Yankees game, or a Rangers game, or a Knicks game...

    Upstate New York?
    The Finger Lakes.
    The Adirondacks.
    The Catskills.

    Charming town near NYC, accessible by commuter rail for day trips?

    Coldspring, New York - it's on the Hudson right across from West Point, at a beautiful stretch of the Hudson.

    Fire Island
    Block Island
    Martha's Vineyard
    Cape Cod/Provincetown
    Outer Banks? (Anyone know how well they have recovered from Hurricane Sandy?)

    Rural/country? (renting a car)
    South Central Pennsylvania
    Shenandoah Valley (especially Virginia)
    Florida Keys/Key West
    Seattle (in the summer)

    "The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” — William Arthur Ward

    by LilithGardener on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 04:43:27 PM PDT

  •  New York first (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, NonnyO

    Then San Francisco. Then someplace really different and away from an ocean.

  •  Kinda depends on their interests (3+ / 0-)
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    for good museums I'd have to recommend the Smithsonian, so Washington, DC would be a must. I would think the County of Los Angeles and the City of New York could offer good museums, too; so also Santa Fe New Mexico and Chicago.

    for good food ... again depending on their tastes -- New Orleans for Cajun, San Antonio for Tex-Mex, Mesilla for Mexican, the Rio Grande Valley generally for wonderful yumminess like huevos rancheros, torta de tres leches, flan, arroz con cilantro y juego de limon, Lockhart, Texas for Barbecue, Houston for seafood ...

    to go outdoors ... I guess I'd say pick a National Park and go from there. Mt. Shasta, Window Rock, Grand Canyon, Big Bend, Saguaro, Golden Gate, Yosemite ...

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    by BlackSheep1 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 05:18:31 PM PDT

  •  I'm an expat - in the other direction (2+ / 0-)
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    and whenever I'm asked by folks in the UK where they should go, what they should  not miss ...

    I recommend they tell me when they are coming, and, regardless of when, I can always tell them to visit one or other group  of the national parks.

    Before it becomes the height of summer - the West


    The Grand Canyon

    Death Valley

    Arches, Bryce Canyon, Zion Canyon (The Utah Trifecta)

    Later in the year - Olympic

    If going east then Acadia, Maine's jewel. Biscayne Bay, The Everglades or the interior swamps beyond New Orleans.

    I'd also recommend the small coastal islands (like Edisto) over Hilton Head any time, and Savannah over Atlanta (should they be flying in to the city, as many Euro travelers do).

  •  As a fan of charismatic critters, Yellowstone (0+ / 0-)

    gets my vote.

    The frog jumped/ into the old pond/ plop! (Basho)

    by Wolf10 on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 05:38:52 PM PDT

  •  First of all (1+ / 0-)
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    no where west of 95 or east of 5.  

    I would send them to the Sea Islands of South Carolina and listen to Gullah and eat the best cuisine we have to offer. Before it is gone.

    Then Manhattan, NYC.   no less than a week.  Throw a dart at a map from hotel and walk there.  But don't miss serendipity's frozen hot chocolate in the 50's, east of the park.  

    Then Montauk or the Cape, P'town

    Then Sable Island in TX, South of Corpus.

  •  Also pretty much only know the north east well (1+ / 0-)
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    and all the east coast better than the rest of the nation.

    oddly, my first thought was niagara falls - then remembered the nice side is in Canada!  I would still recommend it - been there over a dozen times and still find it intriguing.

    The beaches on Long Island are nice, but damn, I hate getting to the Island (was just there this past weekend, 3 hrs 40 minutes for what should be a 2.5 hr drive).  Of course, there are beaches everywhere on both coasts - so def need to send them to one!

    Depends on what they want - urban/scenic/grandiose?  The blue ridge mountains are beautiful (though got my first glimpse of the rockies fall 2012 working in Boulder on the campaign and they were, of course, impressive).  The blue ridge and all the Appalachians are generally more accessible I think, as far as going for just a stretch then detouring to other areas.

    I guess DC could be on a list of possibilities too.  Particularly if they like tours!

    Hmmm - Statue of Liberty is a favorite of mine.  As is Williamsburg, Va.

    Damn - I can't even pick among places on the East Coast, and L.A. certainly would be high on the list for anyone looking for celebrity/film focus.  New Orleans - never been, but so many people I know love it.

    Of course you have many national parks to pick from too.

     I could easily go on  but won't, cuz apparently the answer to your question could go on forever!

    good luck!

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    by MRA NY on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 06:06:15 PM PDT

  •  any furriner who wants to see the best the US has (0+ / 0-)

    to offer should go to Australia (where I am at moment)

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    by Lepanto on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 06:10:02 PM PDT

  •  Choices? It depends. (1+ / 0-)
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    There has been a plethora of excellent choices already here in the comments.

    For my 2 EuroCents, it kind of depends on the visitor(s), doesn't it? If they are interested in cities, then we have plenty of wonderful cities to visit as listed above. If it be what passes for wilderness or "nature," why then we have an even bigger list. It all depends on what they want to do.

    I, as a Westerner born and bred, would recommend the National Parks wherever they are in the West, Blue state or Red. I've been to many of the big ones out here, and can suggest them without reservation. They embody many of our finest forests, mountains, deserts, canyons large, and environments many. I love them all.

    We Yanks can grouse and rage about our insane political happenings, yammer on about boycotts, but that really shouldn't stop anyone else from being able to go where they want to go.

    And yeah, I know tarantulas don't really act like that at all, so no snarking, this is the internet damnit!

    by itzadryheat on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 06:22:33 PM PDT

  •  Depends on the type and length of holiday (1+ / 0-)
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    There's much too much to see, 3 million square miles worth. Art people would want something different from mountain people from sea coast people from high-altitude mountaineering people. One week people would want something different from 2-week people from 3-week people from 4-week people. People who don't mind driving could have a VERY different experience than people who are more mass-transit, stay-in-one-place minded; cycling people would probably do best in California; ocean kayaking people would be up on the WA/BC border; and volcano people would be in Yellowstone and the Cascades.

    I'm in East Tennessee and am very partial to our mountains and rivers, and I do a lot of distance driving so one of my prospective 1-week marathons through a slice of the Southern Appalachians goes through a lot of mountains on a lot of road. It is somewhat provincial, but the Southern Appalachians are somewhat provincial. This one starts around Asheville, NC. There's so much to see in the Asheville area and Western Carolina, one could spend the entire week there. (Here is a representative website: )

    But for those who don't mind driving longer distances, mixed with walking, rafting, hang gliding, and mountain and road biking (also have commercial caves here and there), I'd consider spending time in both NC and TN to get a bit broader view of the region.

    Day 1
    Fly into Knoxville TN, 2 hour drive to Asheville through Big Pigeon Gorge and the north edge of the Smokies, very nice vistas, bit of a hairy drive on I-40 through all the curves w/ the 18-wheelers. Much more boring, but a less challenging drive, to fly into Charlotte NC, 2-hr drive to Asheville. Check out the city's architecture, shops, restaurants, brew pubs, and music.

    Day 2
    Visit Biltmore, take a look through the Biltmore Village art galleries, definitely travel the Blue Ridge Parkway to Southern Highlands Craft Guild gallery at the Folk Arts Center. Alternatively, visit some of the churches on the Benjamin H. Long IV fresco trail, or drive 1-1/2 hrs up the Parkway to Linville Gorge or the much more tourist-y Grandfather Mountain (Mt. Mitchell, the highest peak east of the Rockies, is on the way). Return to Asheville.

    Day 3
    Drive to the Great Smoky Mountain Natl Park. Scenic/slow route is via the Blue Ridge Parkway to the entrance on the Cherokee side of the Park (possible side trip to the Museum of the Cherokee Indian). Faster route is I-40 to U.S. 19/74, through Maggie Valley to Cherokee. From Cherokee, up U.S. 441 to Newfound Gap (side hike the Boulevard out to the Jumpoff for quite the view), down to Sugarlands Visitor Center, stay in insanely tourist-y but walkable Gatlinburg area (B&B, cabin, camp, motel, hotel).

    Day 4
    Back to Sugarlands Visitor Center, across the Little River Road to Cades Cove, brave the godawful traffic around the Cove road (an early start is a better start, but some mornings the road is closed to autos) to the one-way, all-weather Parsons Branch Road, out to U.S. 129, south to the Joyce Kilmer Slickrock Wilderness, hike the circle trail to see what our remaining Southern Appalachian virgin forest looks like. Stay at a B&B, camp, or reserve a cabin somewhere in the area that sets you up for a day of rafting the Nantahala or Ocoee, or hiking, or bust-ass mountain biking in Tsali. I highly recommend the Ocoee but it requires more driving and takes you farther away from the Knox/Char airports.

    Day 5
    Raft the Nantahala; or drive the Cherohala Skyway to Tellico Plains, take 68 south to Ducktown, and raft the bigger, warmer Ocoee (the rafts and gabillions of kayaks, canoes, etc., run below the section where the '96 Olympic whitewater events were held).

    Day 6
    Back toward the airport.

    If more time, esp. for folks who flew into Knoxville and rafted the Ocoee, it's worth hopping over to Chattanooga, perhaps driving up Signal Mountain for the view, and driving out Lookout Mountain for the view (and perhaps a tandem hang gliding flight). Good music and food in Chatt, spectacular geology, Civil War history, excellent aquarium, Bluff View art district, Hunter Museum of American Art, etc. Chatt has a bicycle transit system (and bike shops that rent) and a scenic Riverwalk that will get you out along the gorgeous river and to the aquarium, art district, etc.

    Fight them to the end, until the children of the poor eat better than the dogs of the rich.

    by raincrow on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 06:33:47 PM PDT

  •  I would think that anyone wanting to visit the US (1+ / 0-)
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    is going to want to experience what something other than the standard big city, that they would want something distinctly American.

    Float trip on the Salmon River in Idaho.
    Biking in Napa Valley
    Skiing in Crested Butte or Alta (Europeans have never seen snow like they have in Utah)
    Music and food in 'Nawlins
    Music on Beale street in Memphis
    Music in Austin
    Hiking up to conundrum springs in the Maroon Bells
    Any college sporting event... distinctly American
    A bluegrass concert at Mishwauka outside of Fort Collins, Co

    And yeah, even the uncles and I took a group of German exchange students on a trail ride in the Missouri Ozarks and they had a blast.

  •  Where to go? Colorado! (0+ / 0-)

    Colorado, where it's four twenty all the time. Seriously, pot tourism is going to be huge in CO. Rocky Mountain High. Plus world class scenery, hiking, riding, rafting, great archeological sites, and the largest city for 300 miles in any direction.

    When I feed the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.--Dom Helder Camara

    by beyondleft on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 06:48:03 PM PDT

  •  Before the Yellowstone Caldera erupts... (2+ / 0-)
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    ... and wipes out most of the US, Yellowstone National Park.  It's quite pretty, they geysers are spectacular, as are the hot water pools, the animals are too friendly.  Do NOT get out of the car, no matter which other numbskulls do - like myself when I was young; there were these two bear cubs, see... let's just say I was closest taking pix of these adorable newborn twin cubs perched on either side of the tree, and made it back to the car the fastest once the mama bear heard her young 'uns calling and started running to them.  The waterfalls and vistas are rather breathtaking, too, and you'd probably see a wolf or two now that they've been reintroduced back into the park.  It's been 47 years since I saw it, and I still remember it.

    It's been even longer since I saw Glacier National Park, and that has some fabulous scenery (and friendly bears, too - don't feed the bears).  One little section where my family stopped had some cute little striped gophers and we gave them nuts (I have no idea why we had nuts with us, but we did and the gophers got 'em).

    For a peaceful little vista and picnic lunch, go to Itasca State Park (Clearwater County, Minnesota), and walk across the Mississippi River where it's only a short walk across a shallow creek coming over rocks at Lake Itasca.  It's a trek our family made often when we were young and had large family gatherings..., and we can tell the progress of the growth of the kids by how high the water came up on their legs.  It's only about mid-calf high on a kid, so not deep at all.  When there's a low-water year one can step across on the rocks.  From that far-gone time to modern times ('04 when we had the last family gathering I attended), someone has put a wide split log across the river for people to walk across to the other side if they choose.  There's only a landmark and the fact that someone can claim they walked across the Mississippi River, but it's nice restful place, there are a few sights, biking and hiking trails, and an old log cabin and a logging sledge on display reminiscent of the old logging days.  Some of my ancestors logged not far from there, in fact.

    Otherwise, I'd suggest a eating fresh seafood - crab or lobster - at a couple of restaurants (names unremembered now) in Seattle, or go up to Vancouver, BC and take the ferry across to the island (if you do that in February the winds are quite cold).  If you're allergic, don't drive inland from Seattle across I-90.  One of the worst sneeze attacks I ever had was driving across that area, which, I think was Black Angus country, and it wasn't long after that when I ended up at the allergy specialist's having testing done.  Uff da.  Fly - or drive south along the Oregon coast around Coos Bay.  I haven't been to the latter, but my bro once lived near there and Mom took pix when she visited and the Coos Bay area has quite spectacular sea views.

    There are places to go in the US where you can have a nice time, enjoy the scenery, and leave with nice photos and good memories.  If you're lucky, you'll meet people just as nice as the scenery.

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 06:52:13 PM PDT

  •  Letchworth State Park, especially in the fall (0+ / 0-)

    It's in upstate New York, about an hour south of Rochester. The Genesee River runs through it - the park is 17 miles long, features a gorge 600 feet deep in places, three waterfalls, and the largest dam east of the Mississippi at Mount Morris at the north end, and a dramatic high railroad bridge at the south.

    There are plenty of hiking trails, picnic areas, campsites, cabins, a swimming pool or two, several museums, and you can also drive much of it. The Glen Iris Inn offers fine dining and accommodations.

    When the leaves start to turn colors in the fall, people come from miles around to drive through the park.

    More information here.

    Letchworth State Park, renowned as the "Grand Canyon of the East," is one of the most scenically magnificent areas in the eastern U.S. The Genesee River roars through the gorge over three major waterfalls between cliffs--as high as 600 feet in some places--surrounded by lush forests. Hikers can choose among 66 miles of hiking trails. Trails are also available for horseback riding, biking, snowmobiling and cross-country skiing. Letchworth offers nature, history and performing arts programs, guided walks, tours, a summer lecture series, whitewater rafting, kayaking, a pool for swimming and hot air ballooning. Experiencing Letchworth by hot air balloon is unforgettable, as seen in this video clip.

    Winter activities include snow tubing, cross-country skiing, and snowmobiling. The historic, completely restored Glen Iris Inn offers overnight accommodations and is open to the public for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Banquet and catering services are available for your special events. - See more at:

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 06:53:20 PM PDT

  •  serious answer.. (0+ / 0-)

    since I'm in Panama, I say Orlando. Theme parks, shopping, hotels, Spanish, direct flights, it's what folks want. If they have other interests, then take it from there.

    We took the wife's kids and grandkids to the Grand Canyon on the train, Las Vegas, Disney, the snow, etc.. but we were there then. It would have been harder to just tell them, go there, and for them to do it. So, the moral is, go along as a guide!

    This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

    by Karl Rover on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 08:23:47 PM PDT

  •  Grab an AirBnB apartment rental in NYC and knock (0+ / 0-)

    your socks off be it people watching, or the culture, or the nightlife.

    I am planning to do the same in Paris in a year or two when I reach retirement age, and have already found a nice affordable flat near everything.

    “My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there." - Rumi

    by LamontCranston on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 08:34:27 PM PDT

  •  You can't go wrong recommending they (0+ / 0-)

    visit Paris. That'll direct them to more than half the states. (Paris, TX, is said to be lovely in the spring.)

    Obama is apparently OK with TPP's price tag of thousands of preventable deaths, due to projected increase in drug costs in impoverished nations. Does it make a difference to you if HRC supports TPP as well?

    by WisePiper on Tue Apr 08, 2014 at 10:51:29 PM PDT

  •  I like your suggestions LaF, here are mine (0+ / 0-)

    San Francisco, definitely. And Muir Woods and Big Sur while you're at it.

    Boston/Lexington/Concord MA

    Santa Fe

    Pittsburgh, but only in the fall or spring

    Door County, WI in the summer

    Rehoboth, DE

    Acadia National Park in ME but not in black fly season

    Death Valley in wildflower season

  •  depends on what they are looking for (0+ / 0-)

    if they're looking for the tourist traps... that's easy enough.

    if they are looking for nature... national parks are great.

    maybe send them on a trip down route66... or I80 for that matter.

    maybe, if they are looking for a more authentic experience you could get them to try the American living experience. Try shooting ranges? A black Baptist church service is certainly eye opening..

  •  The Islands of Hawaii is a good start...Madison, (0+ / 0-)

    ...Wisconsin, or other cities with large Universities. Austin, TX is very nice. Most of Colorado.  West coast, Northwest. Drive the Rockies from Mt. Rushmore south to Grand Canyon. Drive up Pike's Peak for 360 panoramic view. Drive the Mississippi River road from Twin Cities (Minneapolis-St. Paul) through the small towns/cities down to Dubuque, Iowa. Drive the back roads through small farm communities including Amish farms of southwest Wisconsin. Normally late Spring thru summer is best time to see local festivals...4th of July fireworks are fantastic!
    Just for a start.

    Our nations quality of life is based on the rightousness of its people.

    by kalihikane on Tue Apr 15, 2014 at 12:00:27 AM PDT

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