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The nonprofit organization Make Way for Monarchs is calling for April 14, 2014, the 50th anniversary of Rachel Carson's death, to be a day of action and contemplation for monarch butterflies and other imperiled pollinators.

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Environmentalist Ellen Moyer warns us that Monarch Butterflies: Industrial Agricultural Warfare Is Killing Them, Us

The nonprofit organization Make Way for Monarchs is calling for April 14, 2014, the 50th anniversary of Rachel Carson's death, to be a day of action and contemplation for monarch butterflies and other imperiled pollinators. As genetically modified (GM), herbicide-tolerant (HT) crops such as corn, soy and cotton overspread our agricultural lands, farmers spray the land with herbicides. Those herbicides kill the milkweeds that monarchs depend on.

Ellen Moyer informs us that three-quarters our worlds food supply depend on insect pollinators such as butterflies and bees, both of which are seeing dramatic declines in populations. She informs us that overspreading genetically modified (GM), and herbicide-tolerant (HT) crops are killing the milkweed plants monarch butterflies need for survival. Milkweeds contain a natural repellent for monarch predators.

Starting in March it takes five generations of monarch butterflies to make the 2,000 miles journey from Mexico o Canada, then in October,  a single generation travels all the way back.

Last year was the worst year in recorded history for the number of monarch butterflies arriving in Mexico. The population of arriving monarchs plummeted 90 percent from the annual average population of the last 15 years, and the insects' annual migration is in danger of disappearing. This catastrophic decline is attributed to herbicide application and urban sprawl in their summer breeding grounds in the United States, combined with illegal logging in the butterflies' wintering grounds in Mexico. The logging has been curtailed. The herbicide problem continues unchecked.

The biggest problem seems to be that monarch lay their eggs on milkweeds which are being killed by excess application of herbicides which is drifting off of farmlands,

Since their introduction in 1996, HT crops have been planted in increasing quantities. In 2007, U.S. farmers applied 185 million pounds of glyphosate herbicides, the most popular type, to their croplands. In recent years, land has been taken out of conservation restrictions and put into production to grow HT corn to produce the gasoline additive ethanol. Both of these developments have been deadly to milkweeds, which have been wiped out in large areas. The essence of HT crop culture is the engineering of the cash crop to withstand herbicides and then dousing herbicides on everything, essentially saying, "To hell with everything, except for my precious crop that can tolerate the poison."

Moyer tells us that the "glyphosate herbicide Roundup is now implicated in a range of health problems and diseases, including Parkinson's, infertility and cancers." She advocates we all adopt a sustainable lifestyle as the long-term solution, and provides a detailed road-map.  

The nonprofit organization Make Way for Monarchs is calling for April 14, 2014, the 50th anniversary of Rachel Carson's death, to be a day of action and contemplation for monarch butterflies and other imperiled pollinators.

In preparation for National Monarch Buttterfly Day,  please read this article and join in this worthwhile effort.

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  •  So many canaries are sounding the warnings (14+ / 0-)

    and yet we're unable to hear them. Frogs with 6 legs, bees and butterflies dying in droves, and on and on and yet we choose to do nothing about it.

    GOP 2014 strategy -- Hire clowns, elephants, and a ringmaster and say "a media circus" has emerged and blame Democrats for lack of progress. Have pundits agree that "both sides are to blame" and hope the public will stay home on election day.

    by ontheleftcoast on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 08:01:12 PM PDT

    •  Yes, I agree. We could do articles on a different (10+ / 0-)

      environmental disaster every day, and not run out of topics.

      And, every one seems next to hopeless.

      One hope which sustains me is a metaphor I read long ago  in a paper on system theory,  scientific details which I need to read more about.

      One aspect of inspirational metaphor is the idea that some forms of complex organization which start to break down under stress from increasing increasing energy levels can suddenly reorganize at higher energy levels after a period of discontinuity and chaos. .

      I realize this last paragraph doesn't make sense. What I'm trying to say, is that while if we just look at the current trends our situation my seem hopeless.

      But, rather than give hope I'm willing to grasp at straws and vague and implausible metaphors to image that with "magical thinking and implausible hope" we might be able some kind of breakthrough rate of progress in the future that we do not see any evidence of yet.

      Maybe all of this bad news is not actually being completely ignored, but billions of other people are accumulating it, just like we are, so that at the right moment, when the right leader or moment comes along we may galvanize in an unexpected way. Like Martin Luther Kings speech galvanized people and broke through a situation that many people then, including himself may have thought was equally hopeless?

      "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

      by HoundDog on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 08:17:55 PM PDT

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      •  it's easy to get discouraged. but (0+ / 0-)

        as someone who was involved in the environmental movement since the 70's (I worked for Greenpeace and Sierra Club, worked with Earth First! on California old-growth forests, was part of the anti-nuke movement, helped form the Lehigh Valley PA Coalition for a Safe Environment, worked with PIRG to prevent oil drilling in Florida's offshore, and did wildlife rescue and rehab for several years), I can also see how far we've come in that time.

        Back then, release of toxins into the environment (whether deliberately or not) was entirely unregulated, species were being wiped out without any effort at conservation or protection, and people did not even stop to think about the effects we were having on our surroundings, our fellow organisms, and ourselves.

        Today, that has all changed. Regulations are in many cases inadequate, but at least we have them, and are no longer dumping toxins without care. Habitat areas are being set aside and protected, while endangered species are being bred for release into these protected areas. None of that existed 50 years ago. And it's working--populations of endangered animals ranging from alligators to gray whales have rebounded and are now increasing.

        Yes, we still have major problems to deal with and very much work remains to be done (and some countries are doing MUCH better jobs of dealing with them than we are). But things are a LOT better overall now than they were in the 50's and 60's.

        So keep your chin up.  ;)

        In the end, reality always wins.

        by Lenny Flank on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 05:35:44 AM PDT

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        •  Thank you for this optimistic note Lenny. I agree (0+ / 0-)

          with what you say here. And, we are seeing improvements not just in the United States but around the world in places one might not expect.

          I had the good fortune to play a small role in a project that led one rapidly emerging South East Asian nation add a Minister without Portfolio for the Environment, which symbolically was "sort of " like establishing an EPA there and could be thought of a precursor to it at least.

          One heck of a surprise I learned there was some of the strongest and most effective advocates for tighter environmental regulation there were the CEOs or European electronic firms who were tired of having to compete ad a disadvantage against smaller less well known local emerging firms which had less strict environmental corporate policies.

          We project was funded and started by a group of independent academics without government funding so as to appear and be independent and credible. We went over budget and had a funding crisis.

          The CEO of Phillips Electronics offered to put up all of the needed remaining funds which generated tremendous suspicious among the local scholars that they wished to co-opt the results.

          He explained not at all, no strings attached. He explained that there was no one in that country that wanted a properly regulated hazardous waste facility there as his employees were all Dutch PhDs and would not improperly dump toxic chemicals into the environment like the local competition was doing. So he was stuck keeping it on site at great expense and hazard to his employees.

          "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

          by HoundDog on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 06:57:59 PM PDT

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    •  Ironically, it's the not being able to hear them (6+ / 0-)

      ... that's the warning. The canaries were lowered into the coal mines to find out if there was a deadly buildup of gases. They went silent if they died.

      •  The situation has many layers, doesn't it? (2+ / 0-)
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        We have come a long way, in many ways.  But then we've created new problems too.

        One aspect to all this is the way human health is impacted when we hurt other species - we are canaries too.  We're consuming glyphosate and other toxins at the same time we're inflicting them on other species.  Perhaps more importantly, if we kill off insect pollinators and their food supply (milkweeds in the case of monarchs), we put our own food supply at risk.  We're all in this together.  

        I have to think humans will wake and change course - our situation is becoming too precarious, precarious enough to motivate change. It's time for our survival instinct to kick in.  

        •  Hi Ellen. I'm so honored you showed up here. (0+ / 0-)

          I had no idea you were  here.

          I repeated the National Monarch Day call this morning to see if I could muster more interest.

          I also included a review of you work here as a second part of a tribute to Rachel Carson I did this morning.

          I was going to run something over the next to days, but if you are here, I'll support whatever you post.  What are your plans?

          "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

          by HoundDog on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 06:15:00 PM PDT

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          •  Thanks for all you're doing (0+ / 0-)

            Hi HoundDog - I appreciate everything you are doing.  Thanks!  

            BTW, the link above (second part of a tribute to Rachel Carson) didn't work for me.  It may be something I'm doing wrong - I'm a newbie to Daily Kos.

            You asked, what are my plans. Besides planting milkweeds in my yard and talking with neighbors who have some good patches growing already in their fields (asking them to hold off on mowing them until after fall migration, if they can), and sending my article around to government officials and others, I'm talking with my state representative, asking him to talk with the head of the state department of environmental protection and officials in state transportation departments about altering their maintenance practices on rights of way to provide milkweeds.  I'm also talking with other contacts who expressed interest in helping out, including a state department of transportation supervisor and a friend at EPA who is looking into growing milkweeds on some Superfund sites.  That's about it - generally trying to spread the word.

  •  Another possible culprit is corn (12+ / 0-)

    genetically modified to produce the Bt toxin. Although harmless to humans, Bt is deadly to caterpillars. Bt toxin in corn's windblown pollen has been shown to spread far beyond the actual fields, and naturally is found on milkweeds adjacent to and within the corn fields.

  •  Moyer's call is too little, too late! (6+ / 0-)

    Her prescription about GM corn and glyphosate is correct.  But calling for individual contemplation and/or action is not enough.  Either glyphosate must be banned promptly or the government must set up policies to set aside areas on farms that allow milkweed to grow.  If there is not action by government very soon, there will be no migration ever again.

    •  You are probably right. Contemplating is not going (2+ / 0-)
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      to help the Monarchs much.

      Maybe its time to preserve their DNA so later generations can revive examples in zoos so future generations of school children can see examples of what insects an nature looked like, back in the old days, when we had ecosystem and non-artificial containment systems.

      "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

      by HoundDog on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 09:06:31 PM PDT

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    •  As patents expire on Round up and Glycophosphate (0+ / 0-)

      Resistance genes, and more "weeds" develop resistance, use is going to crash.

      Monstanto won't be pushing the seeds when any company that wants can make the herbicide.

      The bad news is, they're trying to get genes providing resistance to components of Agent Orange (Monsanto was a major producer of it, btw, and involved in covering up known dangers) approved.

      So, something about frying pans and fires.

      Is it "Gordon Gecko Democrat" week here at Dailykos?

      by JesseCW on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 04:20:54 AM PDT

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      •  in the interests of accuracy, it must be empasized (0+ / 0-)


        The bad news is, they're trying to get genes providing resistance to components of Agent Orange (Monsanto was a major producer of it, btw, and involved in covering up known dangers) approved.
        The toxic effects of Agent Orange were due to dioxins introduced during the old manufacturing process. The actual herbicide (known as 2,4-D) does not have the toxic effects that dioxin does. Monsanto is not now trying to use Agent Orange or dioxin on anything--it is trying to use 2,4-D which is not the same thing. Some of the more hysterical have taken to claiming that "Monsanto wants to spray Agent Orange on us!", which is simply not true, and is just attempting to use the emotional impact of the words "Agent Orange!" as a scare tactic. It is dishonest and deceptive, and we should not use it or tolerate others using it.

        And you are right about Roundup and glyphosates----once the weeds develop resistance to it, it becomes useless, and weeds have already been developing resistance to it since Roundup was used for decades before the GM-resistant crops even appeared. That, alas, is the eventual fate of ALL pesticides and antibiotics---they are only good for a limited  period of time until the target develops resistance to it, then they become completely useless. That is simple evolution in action, and it can never be stopped. In another decade or two, all the weeds will have resistance, and Roundup will disappear from the market, no matter what we or Monsanto do or don't do. Monsanto may be a big rich powerful corporation--but they can't stop evolution.

        In the end, reality always wins.

        by Lenny Flank on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 05:14:19 AM PDT

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        •  Monsanto is right now seeking approval for (1+ / 0-)
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          use of one of the components of Agent Orange.

          Monsanto in the past knowingly concealed information about the dangers of multiple chemicals it produced, from PCB's to Dioxins.

          This are cold hard facts, as much as clowns desperate to vigorously ride any fence they come across might try to pretend that they're not.

          None of us should tolerate right wingers trying to pose as "reasonable Liberals" when they assault statements of plain fact with labels like "hysterics".

          Those who use these tactics and those who enable them are equally responsible for most of the severe threats facing us today.

          Is it "Gordon Gecko Democrat" week here at Dailykos?

          by JesseCW on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 05:21:30 AM PDT

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          •  here is another cold hard fact: (1+ / 0-)
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            2,4-D is not "Agent Orange", and it does not contain dioxin, which was the toxic component of Agent Orange.

            None of us should tolerate right wingers trying to pose as "reasonable Liberals"
            THAT is an accusation you had better back up with some evidence, or withdraw.  

            If you do neither, I will forward the matter to Elfling.  Kos has already made it clear that accusations of shilling are bannable offenses here.

            I am getting really fucking tired of the increasing number of CT kooks at DKos who shoot their mouths off with statements like this one without backing it up in anyway. It has become routine now for all the CTers to post accusations that people are paid Monsanto shills, or  trolls for Big Pharma, or work for TEPCO, or are NRA employees, or support the NSA, or whatever. It's silly, stupid, and dishonest.  It's just a way to delegitimize criticism and avoiding answering it or even reading it. It should not be tolerated here by anyone on any side of any issue.

            I'm fucking tired of seeing it. And it won't stop until Kos starts bojo'ing people for it.

            I've been with the environmental movement since most of us here were pooping their diapers. So you can take your idiotic accusation and shove it.

            In the end, reality always wins.

            by Lenny Flank on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 05:45:04 AM PDT

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        •  Dow knew by 1964 (0+ / 0-)

          that the manufacturing process created dangerous levels of dioxin.  They informed the other manufacturers (including Monsanto) of this, and changed their process to reduce the levels, although I think no one else did.  (Link)

          The other catastrophe of using Agent Orange has nothing to do with its direct health impact, on US military personnel, enemy combatants, civilian bystanders, and all the wildlife exposed.  By killing off huge swaths of forest, the Ranch Hand operation caused massive and probably irreversible changes in the ecology of much of SE Asia.

          •  all true, but all also not relevant to my point. (0+ / 0-)

            No one here thinks Monsanto are angels. Monsanto are fucking bastards. Most of what they do is intolerable in a democracy.

            But even if Monsanto's CEO personally poisoned his dog with dioxin and buried it in his tomato garden to cover it up, that doesn't alter the simple fact that (1) 2,4-D is NOT "Agent Orange", (2) 2,4-D does NOT have dioxin (the dangerous part of Agent Orange) as a component, and (3) if we claim or imply otherwise, we are simply lying to people.

            In the end, reality always wins.

            by Lenny Flank on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 03:34:15 PM PDT

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        •  There is probably another resistance mechanism (0+ / 0-)

          at work - because the gene conferring resistance (CP4 EPSPS) was cloned into the nuclear genome instead of the mitochondrial one, it is present in pollen and can be much more easily transferred to weeds surrounding grain crops as a result.

          •  ...this also results in trivially easy (0+ / 0-)

            contamination of NON-GMO crops with these genes, (i) preventing their sale as organic, and (ii) exposing the unsuspecting farmers to legal action from Monsanto if their crops are hybridized.

            •  I have always wondered why on earth Monsanto did (0+ / 0-)

              this in the first place. Surely they could have made the pollen sterile. That would eliminate the whole cross-fertilization problem--and also prevent Mother Nature from giving away their patented genes to anyone and everyone for free, which they seem to be so paranoid and tight-assed about.

              In the end, reality always wins.

              by Lenny Flank on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 03:29:04 PM PDT

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              •  My son told me in his biology class his professor (1+ / 0-)
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                taught them when this pollen with the patented pollen drifts off the farms where it is used onto the neighboring farms which did not use it, the patented DNA gets mixed into the seed stock of the neighboring farmers who then face lawsuits.

                I did not catch whether the law suits from Monsanto are in regard to he patented product they sell, or the seed stock, but the big ultimate problem is they can not use the seed stocks they have been cultivating and handing down for generations because they are now in patent violation.

                My son reported that some of this farmers now have no alternate source of seed stock and must buy from the corporation involved which I believe was Monsanto in this case.

                "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

                by HoundDog on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 07:07:06 PM PDT

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                •  he's right (1+ / 0-)
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                  Monsanto has claimed ownership rights over the gene itself (which I object to strongly--NOBODY should have any right to patent a natural product for private profit), and therefore claims the right to compensation from anyone who possesses their gene, no matter how they got it.

                  Monsanto also forces people who use their seeds to sign a big long list of "thou shalt nots" regarding how the seeds are to be used--the biggest restriction being that the farmer CANNOT retain any of Monsanto's seed for planting next year. The farmers MUST buy a new supply of seeds from Monsanto for each planting season.

                  That, I find intolerable. Once a person buys a product, the person who sold it should have NO right whatsoever to tell the purchaser what they can do with it.  It's like your TV dealer telling you what shows you can't watch, or your auto dealer telling you what parts of town you can't drive in.

                  In the end, reality always wins.

                  by Lenny Flank on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 07:39:58 PM PDT

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    •  it is also not the entire problem (2+ / 0-)
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      Certainly the use of pesticides is having its effect on butterflies, as it has been having on many many species for half a century now. And we should do what we must to regulate the use of ALL pesticides and herbicides to levels that do not cause environmental harm.

      But there is another reason for declining Monarch populations which must also be addressed----the steady loss of their wintering grounds in Mexico as that area becomes converted to  farmland and industrial use. In the history of endangered species, habitat loss has been, is now, and probably always will be, the leading cause of species lost, not just for insects but for virtually all other species as well. The most efficient way to exterminate any species is not to shoot it or poison it, but to remove the places where it lives.

      Yes, we should stop poisoning the butterflies. But alas that will not be enough unless we also stop removing the habitats they depend upon to survive the winters.

      In the end, reality always wins.

      by Lenny Flank on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 05:21:33 AM PDT

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      •  Mexican wintering grounds (3+ / 0-)
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        My understanding is that the logging in the monarchs' Mexican forests where they spend the winter has been sharply curtailed, but not entirely eliminated. Of course, extensive damage has been done.  I thought it was mainly illegal logging that was the issue in Mexico, but I did not research that part of the problem much. My blog was focused on what Americans can do to help, right now, like within the next few months, just for starters.  I agree the problem in Mexico is bad too and I in no way intended to minimize it.

        •  I was not suggesting you were trying to minimize (1+ / 0-)
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          it--I'm just pointing out that the problem is a lot more complicated than simply stopping the pesticides. Indeed, because this problem crosses international borders, it by definition requires an international solution, and is not solvable solely by us.

          In the end, reality always wins.

          by Lenny Flank on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 04:06:15 PM PDT

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          •  Complexity (0+ / 0-)

            I worry when we emphasize complexity that people tend to throw up their hands and say what's the use, it won't matter what I do.  My article was geared toward suggesting some action steps that people in the U.S. can take to help.  In a way, everything is complex and change is incremental.

            •  alas the world is a complex place (0+ / 0-)

              Everything is tied to everything else. There are no loose threads in the web of life.

              "Simplicity" appeals only to the simple-minded.  ;)

              In the end, reality always wins.

              by Lenny Flank on Sun Apr 13, 2014 at 06:16:34 AM PDT

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              •  that complexity, btw, is precisely why ecology is (0+ / 0-)

                such a subversive science . . .

                If we want to save butterflies, or manatees, or whales, or whatever other animals people think as cute and cuddly, we must literally change the way our entire society is run.

                A rather large undertaking--but one that is absolutely necessary.  ;)

                In the end, reality always wins.

                by Lenny Flank on Sun Apr 13, 2014 at 06:24:46 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, loss of habitats seems to be a significant (0+ / 0-)

        driver of species loss, although I do not know the exact numbers it makes common sense..

        "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

        by HoundDog on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 06:38:18 PM PDT

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      •  It isn't a problem of conversion to farmland (0+ / 0-)

        or industrial use in Mexico. Monarchs in winter congregate in astoundingly dense masses, thousands hanging one from the other from every leaf of the trees they choose. All those millions of monarchs are wintering together in an area of tens of acres, not square miles.

        Illegal logging is a big concern because every tree is a huge loss. Yes, the monarchs have to get there, passing through the farmland and feeding, but once they get there I assume they do what they did in the California overwintering spot I lived near as a boy - just hang on to each other and wait until spring. Hoping someone doesn't cut down their tree and crush a million of them.

        •  Mexican forests (1+ / 0-)
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          That's my understanding too. Logging is essentially irreversible in the sense that it takes decades for the trees to grow back (I've written a number of articles on Huffington Post on this subject). In Mexico, they can prevent further logging and my understanding is that this is pretty effective now (though tragically late in the game).  I've also read that local people need to be given more financial incentives to leave the trees alone. By contract, in the U.S., planting milkweeds is easy and fast.

    •  Short-term and long-term solutions (1+ / 0-)
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      We need to ban glyphosate but won't get that done in the next month or two.  So the emergency calls for immediate provision of milkweeds for the short-term and then banning glyphosate long term.  If we just did the banning, by the time that happened, the monarchs would be extinct.  Both are needed.  I agree that individual contemplation and/or action is not enough.  We need to change the game at the institutional and policy level.

      •  It is a rare occasion when the subject of an (1+ / 0-)
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        environmental diary comes to participate in the dialogue! Thank you for doing so!

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        by BeninSC on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 04:35:22 PM PDT

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        •  Thanks for kosmailing the diarist (2+ / 0-)
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          And wish I could have jumped in earlier.  

          •  Oh, Hi Ellen, I'm so honored you could make it. (1+ / 0-)
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            Please let me know if you would like to add anything at all,.

            "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

            by HoundDog on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 06:02:52 PM PDT

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          •  I strongly encourage you to write a diary of your (1+ / 0-)
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            In the end, reality always wins.

            by Lenny Flank on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 07:40:48 PM PDT

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            •  Re diary of my own (1+ / 0-)
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              Thanks so much for the encouragement.  I will!  I just posted an article on Huffington Post yesterday about reckless logging and will put it on Daily Kos too.  I guess I need to check into the rules first and see if it's okay to post in two places.  Thanks again!

              •  I look forward to your diary (1+ / 0-)
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                Back in my younger days, I was part of the IWW-Earth First! alliance that worked with Judi Bari to help prevent old-growth clearcutting in the Pacific Northwest. We developed a movement against clear-cutting within the logging workers themselves, by asking them the brutally simple question: "What do you think happens to your job once all the trees are cut?"

                The whole "jobs vs the environment" thing has always been a myth. Sustainable logging can protect both jobs AND the environment. Unsustainable logging can protect neither.

                In the end, reality always wins.

                by Lenny Flank on Sun Apr 13, 2014 at 06:20:22 AM PDT

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                •  link to Washington Landslide article (1+ / 0-)
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                  Thanks, Lenny!  Here is the link:


                  A part that got edited out, to make the article shorter and more focused, had to do with the whole jobs thing.  Funny how we only care about jobs that destroy natural resources.  Here is what I have to say about logging jobs, which are the second most hazardous occupation after fishing, according to the government:

                  "Logging jobs are treated as sacrosanct. Logging proponents will often say we have to allow logging in order to support jobs in rural areas, jobs which are dangerous  and few, due to mechanized logging. If jobs really were a driver, more labor-intensive sustainable logging would be practiced instead of mechanized clear-cutting. Plus, no one else in American gets job security. Companies do not establish typing pools to employ secretaries. Companies get tax breaks to move jobs overseas. Our country does not much care if teachers, possibly our most valuable employees, lose their jobs. Why should loggers enjoy special status?"

        •  I've arrived BeninSC. Thank you for calling this (1+ / 0-)
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          to my attention. I seldom have the time to come back to post from this many days ago.

          I'd like to call to everyone's attention, that I also included a rerun of this post in a Part 2 of the tribute post I did this morning to Rachel Carson, and that post is still active for discussion.

          Thanks BeninSC and Ellen Moyer for coming by. Had I known you were a Kossack I would have coordinated this with you.

          April 14 is 50th Anniversery of Rachel Carson's death and National Monarch Butterfly Day (sort of)

          "Seriously, Folks, WTH?" - ("What the Heck? "h/t Joan McCarter, Seriously, Florida. WTF?)

          by HoundDog on Sat Apr 12, 2014 at 07:12:05 PM PDT

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  •  Bees and butterflies are no joke. (9+ / 0-)

    Where I live, it is against the law to kill pollinating critters. Bees, especially.

    Pope Francis: the Thumb of Christ in the eyes of the Pharisees.

    by commonmass on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 09:17:30 PM PDT

  •  Where I live (0+ / 0-)

    in eastern Massachusetts it's been at least fifteen years since we've seen a monarch.  Have a hard time believing agriculture and glyphosate are responsible, there being close to none of either here.  Friends along the coast say the great southward migration of monarchs they had every fall has just about vanished.

    I do keep a patch of milkweed going in my back yard in the hope that some monarch(s) will err by and find them.  And there's some on waysides and in parkland nearby.  But no monarchs anymore.  

  •  Thank you, on behalf of monarch butterflies (2+ / 0-)
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    Thank you, HoundDog for spreading the word on this dire situation. I hope if enough people are aware, we can bring these gorgeous and beneficial insects back from the brink.

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