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Women are so lazy, they won't work nights or weekends, amiright? That must be why so many of them work at Walmart—it's open so few hours.
Republicans are having real trouble with equal pay and the first rule of holes. As the New Hampshire legislature debates a Paycheck Equity Act, state Rep. Will Infantine took his turn in the hole, digging:
“Men by and large make more because of some of the things they do. Their jobs are, by and large, more riskier,” Infantine, a former chairman of the Manchester Republican Committee, said on Wednesday, as captured by progressive advocacy group Granite State Progress. “They don’t mind working nights and weekends. They don’t mind working overtime, or outdoors in the elements.”

In response to an outburst from colleagues objecting to the Hillsborough Republican’s remarks, Infantine responded, “It’s not me!”

“Men work five or six hours longer a week than women do. When it comes to women and men who own businesses … women make half of what men do because of flexibility of work, men are more motivated by money than women are,” Infantine said, noting that facts from the Bureau of Labor Statistics validate his claims. “Guys! I’m not making this stuff up!”

Women don't work nights or weekends? Tell that to the women you'll doubtless find working in every store or restaurant you go into tonight or this weekend. Men are more motivated by money than women are? Are men also supposedly more motivated by having roofs over their heads and enough to eat than women are? Because that's more likely to be the difference made by the pay gap than, say, driving a Mercedes E-Class vs. a Mercedes S-Class.

You can come up with all sorts of justifications for the pay gap—Lord knows Republicans have put that fact on display over the last few weeks—but none of them explain it away. They just prove that if you want to discount something, you're going to find ways to say it doesn't count.

There's always a caveat that "New Hampshire state representative says X" is uncomfortably close to "that weird guy down the block says X," given that we're talking about a 400-person state House in a state with a population of 1.3 million. But in this case, Infantine is more or less in the mainstream of elected Republicans. Where he's not is in the mainstream of American voters.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 01:14 PM PDT.

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  •  men are more motivated by money than women are (14+ / 0-)

    The HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Seriously. Don't even know how to respond.

    Scott Brown may be right at home in New Hampshire after all.

    "That being said, I do agree I am going to hell. But for other reasons. Mostly boring tax stuff ' Amy Pohler

    by Annie B on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 01:23:56 PM PDT

    •  Um... because it is true? (0+ / 0-)

      First, in most two parent families with a female and a male the the woman takes primary responsibility for child rearing and makes the necessary career sacrifices to do so.  

      For example, one of the women I went to college with (at a top engineering school) went on to work as an engineer at a top US technology company, got married, stopped working to take care of the kids, and then when they went back to school went back to work as a zumba fitness instructor.  

      Some of the men I went to school with have had periods of unemployment and career setbacks, but I can't think of any that have transitioned their careers into something non-technical with limited income potential, other than one who made millions in the dot com boom and then became a teacher.

      Since anecdote is not data, also see

      A 2009 study of high school valedictorians in the U.S. found that female valedictorians were planning to have careers that had a median salary of $74,608, whereas male valedictorians were planning to have careers with a median salary of $97,734. As to why the females were less likely than the males to choose high paying careers such as surgeon and engineer, the New York Times article quoted the researcher as saying, "The typical reason is that they are worried about combining family and career one day in the future."
      Second, read up on hypergamy.  There is even evidence that women married to men with lower incomes are MORE likely than women married to men with higher incomes to reduce work hours and make other career choices that reduce their income.  Unfortunately I can't find the study I read on this, but obviously if women are doing this then women's pay will be lower compared to men's.

      These factors may not explain all of the wage gap, but they certainly explain a large part of it.

      •  Causality? (3+ / 0-)
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        First, in most two parent families with a female and a male the the woman takes primary responsibility for child rearing and makes the necessary career sacrifices to do so.
        In our current society, it is rational for the partner with the greater income potential to be the one who works in a single income household. If women made as much or more than men, I would expect a shift toward more men staying home.
      •  Um... because it is true? Really? (0+ / 0-)

        Beelzebubs Brass Bs: When you compare the salaries of men and women in the same fields doing the same type of work – women salaries are almost always lower. Compare apples to apples and not apples to watermelons.

        I work at an university that had been successfully sued by women for salary discrepancies after an independent study confirmed the practice. But this practice continues because men in managerial positions find ways to pay their male colleagues more. And by the way, I am male, and I believe women should have the same rights and pay as I do.

  •  I call Bullshit!!!! (11+ / 0-)

    I've put in 3 extra hours this week already and that's not compensated time either!!  We won't talk about this evening, tomorrow, or Saturday on how much time I may be putting in.

  •  I hope he expresses that (14+ / 0-)

    opinion someday in a hospital to the female staff working to fix his dumb @$$ 24/7!  Including mandatory OT, holidays, and week ends.

    "The light which puts out our sight is darkness to us." Thoreau

    by NancyWH on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 01:50:19 PM PDT

    •  I hope he expresses it to me (17+ / 0-)

      I have exactly three days off in the month of April, and am working every weekend. The last three nurses who left my (100% female) department were not replaced, and another has been on FMLA dealing with a dying parent.

      You can't not staff a hospital, so the rest of us do what we have to to cover. Don't even get me started on taking a 50% pay cut to work night shift through nursing school, because it was the only job I could find with health benefits. Good thing too, because DH needed emergency back surgery and it would have bankrupted us.

      I truly hope this POS never wakes up at 4am on a Saturday with crushing chest pain. If he does, he may get another dose of reality: an overwhelmingly female staff will be standing ready not only to save his ass, but wipe it if need be.

      Visit my new blog, Little Lotte Studio, to see what I'm growing and making this spring!

      by SteelerGrrl on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 03:22:57 PM PDT

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    •  Word (3+ / 0-)
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      I guess he's never been to a hospital where most of the nurses are female and work very long hours on ...gasp, nights and weekends!

      Or the female techs who draw blood, change bedpans and such, on nights and weekends.

      I suppose he's never been to the Target or Walmart on an evening or a weekend and witnessed the many female workers stocking shelves, cashiering, arranging merchandise and such.

      I guess he's never bought a car on a nice Saturday and saw all the women receptionists, greeters, cashiers, admins, sales etc.

      I guess he also doesn't like to do home improvement, because on the weekend my Lowes and Home Depot are filled with women in the paint department, at the installation department, in appliances...

      Where is this mystical place where only men work nights and weekends?  I'd like to move there so I won't have to work some silly work event this Saturday.

  •  Er..... (8+ / 0-)

    That's not actually true, I have worked nights and weekends, doing all kinds of jobs.

    "To live in a world where truth matters and justice, however late, really happens, that world would be heaven enough for us all." - Rubin "Hurricane" Carter

    by blueoregon on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 01:50:43 PM PDT

  •  Infantile is more like it (12+ / 0-)

    I'm so fucking sick of these people.

    We view "The Handmaid's Tale" as cautionary. The GOP views it as an instruction book.

    by Vita Brevis on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 02:12:58 PM PDT

  •  Then it was all a bad dream? (12+ / 0-)

    All those late nights and weekends I put in unpaid overtime were just in my imagination?  

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 02:31:53 PM PDT

  •  Apparently this idiot doesn't understand what (14+ / 0-)

    Equal Pay for EQUAL WORK means.

    Signature (this will be attached to your comments)

    by here4tehbeer on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 02:32:46 PM PDT

  •  Do you mean to tell me (11+ / 0-)

    that all those years working weekends and late nights to advance my career I could have gotten out of that?  You mean my boss should have just said, 'why you're female, I know you don't want to work this weekend' and let me go, huh?  You mean I coulda refused?

    WOW.  I wish I woulda known this, could have enjoyed those weekends and evenings and made the same paycheck...

  •  While being opposed to equal pay (11+ / 0-)

    is bad enough, the "reasoning" they come up with for opposing equal pay is even stupider.

    As a reminder, always, always, ALWAYS get Republicans to elaborate on their batshit crazy and politically unpopular viewpoints.

    29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Thu Apr 24, 2014 at 03:28:21 PM PDT

  •  Please send this to all Hospitals (9+ / 0-)

       Which is staffed by more women than men - on each and every shift.   Does he really believe medicine is a 9/5 job?

         I wish he would come visit my hospital!....just saying - I'd love to help you sir!  

  •  Just when I thought (10+ / 0-)

    they couldn't say anything more ridiculous, I see this.

  •  When you call customer service at midnight (8+ / 0-)

    on Christmas eve to get tech support or yell about the bill you didn't pay, or activate your iPhone, you talked to someone like me.  We worked nights in order to get paid $10 instead of $9.  Before these jobs were outsourced, they were union and used to pay $25, but that's another story.  I really need to write a diary about the customer service industry.  

  •  He's right...FAR RIGHT (3+ / 0-)
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    Golly, I didn't know that we women don't work nights, weekends, or out in the open.  Shame on me.

    Had I realized that we women don't do things like that, I'd have NEVER had worked 90 hours some weeks or worked seven days a week, fifty-two weeks a year without a break.  I NEVER would have worked outside, either.  SHAME ON ME!!!!!

    If I knew that we didn't work long hours, I never would have spent THREE STRAIGHT DAYS WITH NO FREAKING SLEEP every six weeks helping the company for which I worked correcting the errors other employees had made.  No time off, no sleep, eating stale sandwiches at my desk with no overtime because I was a salaried employee.  PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR THE INCREDIBLE SHAME I HAVE TO FEEL.

    God how I hate the Lican party.  I am currently working here in Texas in Battleground Texas to make this God forsaken state BLUE AS BLUE CAN BE.

    It's going to take time, but Texas will be blue again or I will die trying and I have no intentions of dying anytime soon, I"m only 73 years YOUNG.

    Oh, did I forget to mention that I got PAID MORE THAN MOST MEN WITH WHOM I WORKED BECAUSE I HAD BETTER SKILLS, WORKED LONGER HOURS AND MADE MORE MONEY FOR THE COMPANIES FOR WHICH I WORKED?  Damned right I got paid more because I found out what the highest paid man made before I went to work for any company and then demanded MORE than the highest paid man was making?

    Not all women got caught in the pay gap...I helped MAKE the pay gap...with the guys making less, I don't have the title Doctor in front of my name for nothing.

  •  FANTASTIC NEW BOOK! (2+ / 0-)
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    True North, valkyrry

    Please, man or woman or both (!?) Please buy and read the single most absorbing book I've listened to in the past few years: Senator Elizabeth Warren's "A Fighting Chance."

    She is one pissed off human being.  I am another.  The reason I got the audio version is because she read it and I do a lot of driving around every week.  

    If you want to know what makes her tick, this book will let you know in no uncertain terms.  

    I doubt very much whether she is going to think about running for president, but if Hillary doesn't run...well..never mind, I just thought that y'all would like to hear about a really good non-fiction book.

  •  Equal pay for equal work (3+ / 0-)

    And what about men and women who have the same job, with the same employer, and work the same hours, but one gets more than the other, without a good reason? (A good reason might be a seniority system.)

    All the arguments I've seen against equal pay are based on comparing men and women who work in different industries, different jobs, for different employers.

    •  Yea, they were hoping we wouldn't notice (2+ / 0-)
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      All the arguments I've seen against equal pay are based on comparing men and women who work in different industries, different jobs, for different employers.

      "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

      by GreenMother on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 04:51:46 AM PDT

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    •  Re (1+ / 0-)
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      And what about men and women who have the same job, with the same employer, and work the same hours, but one gets more than the other, without a good reason? (A good reason might be a seniority system.)
      What about it? When you statistically control for all these things plus seniority/experience the gap shrinks sharply and in some industries like tech completely vanishes.

      (-5.50,-6.67): Left Libertarian
      Leadership doesn't mean taking a straw poll and then just throwing up your hands. -Jyrinx

      by Sparhawk on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 07:56:56 AM PDT

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      •  in many places, the gap persists (2+ / 0-)

        even when you control for all of those. And it's there even at the highest levels. Innumerable women with years of experience make less than the newly-hired and less-qualified men they supervise. (Many of them don't know it.)

        If a business can show that it has no gap, then it doesn't have to worry about tightened-up legal standards. The roar of opposition leads me to believe that most businesses are deeply worried that someone might discover how underpaid their female employees are.

        •  Do you have evidence for this? (0+ / 0-)
          Innumerable women with years of experience make less than the newly-hired and less-qualified men they supervise. (Many of them don't know it.)
          Let me suggest that although this can happen, it will be very rare and usually will be based on the man using a skill that the supervisor does not have or performing risky or unpleasant work that the supervisor does not.  (ie. An above surface construction manager may make less money than the technical divers on her job who are doing underwater parts of a construction project.)

          Do you have evidence to the contrary?  A Google search for "Female managers make less than their subordinates" finds nothing relevant.

  •  His comments also devalue the many hours of unpaid (3+ / 0-)
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    work that many women do to support the household.  Some women do not work outside the home but still make valuable contributions.  

    And for those households where both the husband and the wife work, my recollection is that studies show that men do not contribute as much at home as women do.  And the women with paid full time jobs find that they are spending their evenings and weekends doing the unpaid work.

    Amazing, this law maker has managed to insult all women (both those who work solely in the home and those who work at paid jobs) in a single comment.  

    •  I think that GOPers go to a special class on (2+ / 0-)
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      douchebaggery before they are allowed to run for office.

      That way they can successfully say the most outrageous, insulting crap to women  possible.

      "It were a thousand times better for the land if all Witches, but especially the blessing Witch, might suffer death." qtd by Ehrenreich & English. For Her Own Good, Two Centuries of Expert's Advice to Women pp 40

      by GreenMother on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 04:49:51 AM PDT

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    •  Are you suggesting that women should be paid (0+ / 0-)

      by employers for the unpaid work they do at home?

      And for those households where both the husband and the wife work, my recollection is that studies show that men do not contribute as much at home as women do.  And the women with paid full time jobs find that they are spending their evenings and weekends doing the unpaid work.
      Right... which explains why they do less work for employers and therefore make less money - part of the wage gap.

      What is your point here?

  •  More of that outreach to women I see (1+ / 0-)
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    Infantine must mean "give him enough rope" in French.

    If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

    by Major Kong on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 05:03:53 AM PDT

  •  I don't understand (1+ / 0-)
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    Batya the Toon

    The Repug opposition to equal pay. Even if they care nothing for justice and fairness (which they don't), surely their crass greed would let them see that if their wives got equal pay, they themselves would have more money. If their mothers got equal pay, the budding little R would've had more money growing up. What is wrong with them?

  •  For twenty years as a cop (0+ / 0-)

    I worked nights, weekends, holidays...

    Oh, sorry, that was because I took a job away from a man!!!

    These ReThugs.  The stupid, it burns.

  •  Hey! Think he'll let my boss know I can't (0+ / 0-)

    work tonight and this weekend cause I'm a woman and all?

    “To the world you may be just one person, but to one person you may be the world.”-Brandi Snyder (in memory of my Nick)

    by YellowDogInGA on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 08:32:49 AM PDT

  •  Same issue, different excuse (4+ / 0-)

    More than 40 years ago, when I got my first job in high school, the conservative opinion was that men should be paid more than women, but the excuse was different. I used to hear it all the time: Of course men deserve to be paid more than women because they're the breadwinners and women aren't.

    Another popular opinion was that it would be demeaning and emasculating for a man if his wife made more money than he did (and therefore men should always be paid more than women).

    If and when this latest reasoning about why women should be paid less than men loses steam, conservatives will just come up with a new excuse to justify their opinion. I think we'll be hearing more and more about how equal pay would ruin the economy and how a business's right to discriminate, basically, must be preserved.

  •  The issue is about equal pay for equal work. (1+ / 0-)
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    I don't fully understand the wording of these initiatives, but I assume that considerations of type of work and number of hours worked are factored in.  What I don't know is whether time on the job and education and training are considered justification for [pay disparity.  Certainly, two people of whatever gender should make the same pay per hour if they have equal experience, education, and training.  If a woman does "more riskier" work, she should be on equal footing with her male colleagues.  

    This clown does have a minor point as long as it is isolated to overall statistics of the average male worker's pay versus the average woman's pay.  A larger percentage of men work in high-paying work, work that is dangerous, highly skilled, or professional.  Also, where it comes to job experience, more women take long absences to raise children, reducing their number of years of experience.  These facts explain some reasons for overall pay disparity, but are unrelated to the issue of women being paid less than men for the same work when all other factors are equal.  I don't know if this is intentional obfuscation by Rep. Infantile or just an example of his lack of acumen.

    •  Yowza! Are you serious? (0+ / 0-)
      Certainly, two people of whatever gender should make the same pay per hour if they have equal experience, education, and training.  If a woman does "more riskier" work, she should be on equal footing with her male colleagues.  
      So I have two Stanford comp sci graduates applying to me programming on the same project.  Both are fresh grads.

      I think one of them interviewed better so I offer him/her an extra US31,000 / year.

      Are you suggesting that should not be allowed?

      •  What??? (0+ / 0-)

        He 'interviewed better' so you offered him a huge amount more???

        Hell yes, that should not be allowed. A small difference I can understand, because you think he might be a better fit. But not immediately. You NEGOTIATE that. You offer, he counter offers (or not), and then you decide. You start by offering the SAME, which is the standard pay for the job.

        You don't KNOW he will be a better fit, or a better worker. If he IS, you can always give him a raise after a few months.

        •  Meant to say $1,000, not 31,000 (0+ / 0-)
          But not immediately. You NEGOTIATE that. You offer, he counter offers (or not), and then you decide.
          Heh... maybe... or maybe not.

          During the dot com boom it was a cattle call - people with comp sci degrees from top universities were getting multiple offers, companies were giving exploding offers (take it now on the phone with us or we withdraw the offer), and students were exchanging e-mails with two recruiters while on the phone with a third.

          If you waited to negotiate you lost the hot prospects.  Instead you gave them offers too good to refuse.

  •  just when you think they're going to stop talking (3+ / 0-)

    they keep on talking.

    "Kossacks are held to a higher standard. Like Hebrew National hot dogs." - blueaardvark

    by louisev on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 04:10:17 PM PDT

  •  Hardest worker my former boss ever had (3+ / 0-)

    My former IT manager said I was the hardest worker he ever had (I left the job to relocate). As a female IT technician in a law office, I was well-compensated, earned my money, and was working in a "man's" line of work. Not only that, but over the course of my IT career, I participated in office moves, hardware refreshes, and quarterly maintenance that required overtime and weekend work. Before IT, I worked as an admin coordinator at an aerospace firm. I put in quite a few 60 hour weeks working on proposals. What a crock, Infantile, er, Infantine. Bite me.

  •  Ha! I'm working tomorrow night. (3+ / 0-)

    That counts as a night and a weekend...  To bad possessing female anatomy makes that feat impossible for me. Guess I'd better start finding coverage now.  Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind not working tomorrow, but sadly that's a huge part of my 77 cents on the dollar job description.

    I want to live in a world where George Zimmerman offered Trayvon Martin a ride home to get him out of the rain that night. -Bishop G. Brewer

    by the dogs sockpuppet on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 04:14:03 PM PDT

  •  In his own set of assumptions - (2+ / 0-)

    If a woman can't earn as much as a man, why would you expect the woman to be equally motivated by second-class pay??

  •  One word... (2+ / 0-)
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  •  Why don't these fuckers use the logic I was handed (3+ / 0-)

    back in 1970 when I got my first full time job at Bank of America in L.A.?  I saw the pay scale the bank manager was using to determine my raise and it, literally, had one column for males and another column for females, listing the exact same jobs, paying men more than women by a significant amount.  When I asked how that was even legal, the female manager answered me thusly:  "Men have to earn more than women because they usually have to support women at home with children.". Back then, at age 20, I just accepted that as fact and took the lower pay.  Amazing.  And it's still going on!

    Best. President. Ever.

    by Little Lulu on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 04:27:49 PM PDT

  •  women also work the double shift (3+ / 0-)
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    doing the (unpaid) work at home as well. At least this dude's wife probably does.

    Maybe ten years ago, the NH Department of Employment Security denied someone unemployment benefits because she said she wouldn't accept a third-shift job, because she was a single parent with young children. You're not really looking for work, DES said. Fortunately, she had good legal representation and appealed -- and won.

    And of course if she had taken a third-shift job, the state would have stepped in and taken the kids and put them in foster care.


  •  Representative Infantine (2+ / 0-)
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    "More riskier" is not a phrase.

    by DAISHI on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 04:32:03 PM PDT

    •  They get tongue-tied when they're lying (1+ / 0-)
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      And they are all full sacks of offal handing out this blatant bs.

      What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. Henry VI Part II Act 3 Scene 2

      by TerryDarc on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 05:13:25 PM PDT

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  •  Their jobs are...more riskier (3+ / 0-)

    My daughter is currently a Gunner's Mate on coastal riverine patrol boat in the Persian Gulf. Why don't you try that for a while, dumbass?

  •  Yes, and as soon as the ladies get home (early) (2+ / 0-)
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    from work, they're generally known to just pop open a few cool ones, maybe blow a j, and just veg out on the sofa the rest of the evening.

    Marx was an optimist.

    by psnyder on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 04:52:54 PM PDT

  •  If you ask one of these Republicans something... (1+ / 0-)
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    ... and they HAVE to give an answer (longer than two words, one being "you" and the other being impolite), then you'll get this sort of acceptable-to-the-mass media bullshit.

    I mean, if you don't, as news sources from the NYT to Fox clearly show, give a shit, it resembles an answer: just like drawing two circles of slightly different diameters resembles a doughnut.

    What he says when he doesn't think the un-like-minded are within earshot is considerable worse.

    We can't even get to fixing the real problems in the USA these days, because of the density pf the layers of fat the powerful and rich have now learn to grow around themselves.  That fat is composed entirely of teabaggers.

  •  I remember reading somewhere (0+ / 0-)

    that even when both spouses work full time, the woman still does most of the housework (cooking, cleaning, shopping) and taking care of the kids.

    I know in my home, while I'm cooking and doing laundry and running the vacuum, my husband is sitting in his chair watching TV.

    So, although i don't get 'paid', I'm still working even when I'm not 'working'.

    Growing old is inevitable...Growing up is purely optional

    by grannycarol on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 05:38:43 PM PDT

  •  And women are responsible for the family unit (0+ / 0-)

    far more than men. It is women who make most of the decisions regarding how much is spent and on what. it is women who must ensure the family is fed, clothed, clean and where they need to be.
    Men don't do that. Even today, most women are in charge of everything at home.
    This moron probably doesn't even do typical chores men have done (mowing, fixing stuff, etc.) Guys like this hire landscapers and do nothing to ensure the family is fed and clothed, other than providing a paycheck.
    Fuck him and the rest of that class of men who make women carry the burden of running a home without lifting a finger to help. He wouldn't last a week if he had to actually work.

    Isn’t it ironic to think that man might determine his own future by something so seemingly trivial as the choice of an insect spray. ~ Rachel Carson, Silent Spring ~

    by MA Liberal on Sat Apr 26, 2014 at 06:14:57 PM PDT

  •  And not just the 24/7 Walmart (1+ / 0-)
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    How about those 24/7 nurses.

    Ever seen a hospital with all male nurses?
    Maybe back in WWII and Korea the most forward medical facilities were all male but that's just about the only time.

    And some inner city nurses work 12 hour shifts for a week at a time, housed in the hospital.  That's the only way the hospitals can keep staff who other wise, to work 8 hour shifts have walk through parking lots or worse parking buildings in the wee hours of the night and commute during those same night hours, into sometimes dangerous neighborhoods.

    Those cute stews on airplanes, certainly 7 days a week and also with very early and late on off hours for commuting.

    Oh, and Dude.  Pregnancy is a 24/7/9 job and newbie care is pretty much the same.  After that it is just 18/7 for another 5+ years.

    Kos guys excepted, but men are so damn blind, stupid, and dumb about women.

  •  The Stupid takes my breath away. (0+ / 0-)

    Especially when I consider that most women are far more capable and better workers than most men.  Women have always done a larger share of the work in society through   out the ages.   The word Wife actually means Woman Worker.
    The work of child and elder care is very hard work and almost exclusive performed by women.  Most men are not even capable of performing such work day and day out.  There isn't a job on earth that a woman cannot do and usually do it better than her male counterpart (except peeing standing up....Ill give them
    Like George Carlin said, women are crazy and men are stupid.  It is men who make women crazy.

  •  And the GOP says their War On Women doesn't exist. (0+ / 0-)
  •  The retirement penalty (0+ / 0-)

    The punishment for being female doesn't end with retirement. Because you earn 23% less you get 23% less in your pension or 401K AND YOU GET 23% less in your Social Security. That's getting hit hard three times. That's why retired women so often live in poverty, especially after the 401K runs out.

  •  Then there's this: (0+ / 0-)

    "Their jobs are, by and large, more riskier".

    Apparently his grasp of grammar is every bit as sound as his grasp of economics.

    "Where there is cake there is hope, and there is always cake." - Paddy Tock, 'Life Expectancy' by Dean Koontz

    by ladycrim on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 01:01:27 PM PDT

  •  posting from my job at a hospital, straight nights (0+ / 0-)

    straight (4 night) weekends 12.5 hr shifts. Ask my husband. merde de vache, would love to give this GOPer a ring right now (3am Sunday)

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