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Kansas congressman Tim Huelskamp speaking at the 2012 CPAC in Washington, D.C.
That nose should be two feet long.
Glenn Kessler, the Washington Post's fact-checker extraordinaire, levels a very rare Four Pinocchios at Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-KS) for, what else, an Obamacare lie. Not just any Obamacare lie, but the favorite one these days to answer the law's amazing enrollment success: "Nuh-uh! There are more uninsured people now!" Because now, of course, the thing repeal-obsessed Republicans care about most is how many people are uninsured.

Here's Huelskamp's version of it: "It's hard to get accurate numbers on anything. But the numbers we see today is that—as I understand them—we believe there are more people uninsured today in Kansas than there were before the president’s health-care plan went into effect. And I thought the goal was to bring more people into insurance."

Yes, it is very hard to get those numbers, but the numbers at experts' disposal in Kansas so far don't say anything at all like there are more uninsured people now than before the law. The 2013 numbers aren't in yet, but they know that there were some 357,000 uninsured people in 2012 in Kansas, which is pretty consistent with the previous five years. They also know that 29,309 Kansans had signed up for health care on the federal exchanges as of March 1. Kansas didn't take Medicaid expansion, but the estimate is that another 10,000 or so eligible people would have come out of the woodwork. And, "it turns out few plans were canceled in Kansas despite initial reports that thousands of plans might be terminated."

Which means Huelskamp just made all that up, and as Kessler says:

Huelskamp can be as big a critic of the law as he wants, but he’s not entitled to conjure phony facts out of thin air.
Of course, he's a Republican so he feels entitled to do just that. The larger point, though, is that Huelskamp doesn't give two shits about how many uninsured people there are. He wants to repeal the law, which means taking insurance away from all these people!

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 11:47 AM PDT.

Also republished by Obamacare Saves Lives and Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (27+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 11:47:38 AM PDT

  •  But, if Republicans are not (12+ / 0-)

    to be allowed to manufacture facts out of thin air (or, more likely, pull them out of their nether regions), then how are they debate?  As Paul Krugman said today about flailing conservative attempts to counter calls for dealing with inequality

    Why, it’s almost as if the facts are fundamentally not on their side.

    I’ve said before, I will always work with anyone who is willing to make this law work even better. But the debate over repealing this law is over. The Affordable Care Act is here to stay. -- President Barack Obama

    by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 11:51:39 AM PDT

  •  The earth is round.....NUH UH! (3+ / 0-)
  •  Request artists to illustrate this face (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    Snarcasm follows:

    Tea party face:

    Huge mouth to spout lies
    Huge nose to prove they are lies
    Tiny brain to process facts and run mouth
    No ears as no need to listen to anything
    Right face is vastly larger than left face
    Only has a right eye
    Cannot turn neck to the left

  •  Glenn Kessler oughta' know by now (2+ / 0-)
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    hnichols, RichM

    neoCONs are entitled to conjure phony facts, shoot"the [n]egro" children in Florida, grass their livestock where they please, to take more, while you get even less, etc.

  •  GOP in a nutshell: (1+ / 0-)
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    side pocket

    'It's hard to get accurate numbers on anything'.  Right.  We really can't know anything.  That's why everything we do, we do on faith.  It totally alleviates us from having to do any hard work in actually studying and understanding.  We just make shit up, and if we get caught, we rely on our interpretation of 'faith' to save us.

    “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.” - John Steinbeck (Disputed)

    by RichM on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 02:35:56 PM PDT

  •  Huelskamp's claim might be true, if... (1+ / 0-)
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    side pocket

    you only count newly insured Negros as 3/5 of a person.

  •  If you have a preconceived notion (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    side pocket

    you can ignore any fact that doesn't support it and, in addition, you may make up shit. At least if you're a Republican.

  •  It's so easy (0+ / 0-)

    to put out a statement like

    we believe there are more people uninsured today in Kansas than there were…...
    So what?

    Ceiling Cat rules....srsly.

    by side pocket on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 02:37:34 PM PDT

  •  Logic (0+ / 0-)

    All my friends, who just happen to be relatively well off and white, no because I am racist or a bigot, but because those are the people I hang out with, had insurance.  Now one or two them do not have insurance, not sure why, but they don't. Therefore Obamacare makes more people uninsured.

  •  they just keep making stuff up... (0+ / 0-)

    apparently, Republicans feel that they've been so successful in tarnishing Obamacare with the ongoing spate of lies, that they've decided to simply continue to make stuff up.

    Fist there were the alleged "death panels," then the "death spiral" whereby Obamacare would collapse of its own weight due to insufficient participation by young folks; then that Americans with special needs would suffer because of rationing of health care based on "usefulness" (brought to us all by none other than Rick Santorum); then the "fact" that 10 percent of all deaths in the Netherlands are from euthanasia due to its allegedly Obamacare-like health care system (brought to us, again, by Rick Santorum); that Obamacare was a "government takeover" of health care; that everyone's privacy is now at risk because Obamacare allegedly requires doctors to ask patients about their sex lives;  
    that Obamacare is “cutting $716 from Medicare”;
    that the CBO allegedly said that Obamacare will “kill 2 million jobs”; that so-called “risk corridors” constitute massive insurance company bailouts; and now they are back to one of their previous lies: that more people have lost coverage than gained it.

    The good news: they seem to be running out of lies and are just recycling them again.

    •  The lies make people feel good (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't think its a matter of truth or logic.  The RW lies make some people feel good.  So they listen to more of it and they spew it themselves.

      Remember, the human brain is not a single organ, it is an organ system.  Things don't have to be self-consistent in a RW brain.  What people accept and maybe even turn around and repeat has not necessarily been processed well.

      They make up and regurgitate the lies because it gives them a charge - more lies just reinforce the good feelings - and the feelings reinforce the lies.  If hearing something makes me feel this good, it must be true, right?

  •  Poor Guy He Thinks It's Still 2010.... (0+ / 0-)

    & the Tea Baggers are the new kids on the block & are on every show every night & interrupting every Town Hall screaming & yelling about death panels & Kenya & the missing birth certificate.

    Dude, it's over.  Your side lost.  Your constituents have a shot at healthcare, if you would just get yourself out of the way.

  •  Are there accurate numbers, anywhere, that (0+ / 0-)

    indicate how many of the people signing up on the exchanges are people that never had insurance before, or how many people who did not have insurance before still don't have it?

    Those numbers would seem to be important, yet I have not seen anyone providing accurate numbers on those two categories of people.  

    I really don't care if a "number has been met".  I'd like to know if the stated purpose of providing insurance to the previously uninsured/uninsurable is being met.

    Anyone?  Or is it too early to tell?  

    If you get confused, listen to the music play - R. Hunter

    by SpamNunn on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 02:48:30 PM PDT

  •  Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-KS) (0+ / 0-)

    I thought it was Rep. Hulskamp (KOCH Brothers- Kansas ) !


    Check this guys Nose with the other noses mentioned in the previous post.
  •  The GOP have been making up facts for years; (0+ / 0-)

    And now the MSM says they're not allowed to?

    That's Just. Not. Fair.

    Our government is not yet small enough to drown in a bathtub. That doesn't mean it can't be waterboarded.

    by furrfu on Fri Apr 25, 2014 at 05:57:19 PM PDT

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