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Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA)
For four years now, one word has defined the Republican position on Obamacare: Repeal. Sure, sometimes when they want to appear a little less wild eyed and crazy, they talk—disingenuously—about "repealing and replacing" Obamacare, but even though they have no prospects of doing the former and no interest in doing the latter, it has never been acceptable among Republicans to talk about leaving Obamacare in place.

But now a top Republican, Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington state, is doing just that:

With the news this week that more than 600,000 Washington residents have acquired new health care plans through the state exchange, U.S. Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers said it’s unlikely the Affordable Care Act will be repealed.

“We need to look at reforming the exchanges,” the Eastern Washington Republican said Thursday.

Notice that new R-word? Not repeal, not replace ... but reform.

As Steve Benen writes, the game is over: Republicans will still give some lip service to repeal, but comments like these make it clear that GOP leadership understands that Obamacare repeal is a dead issue. The only question at this point is whether the GOP base lets them acknowledge it the way McMorris Rodgers did or if they will still spend waste their time paying rhetorical tribute to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz and the cult of repeal.

1:34 PM PT: McMorris Rodgers now denies believing it's unlikely that Obamacare will be repealed. But she's not disputing using "reform," and the last time I looked in the dictionary, you don't reform something by repealing it.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 08:50 AM PDT.

Also republished by Obamacare Saves Lives.

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  •  The exchanges are the core of Obamacare (23+ / 0-)

    Their "reform" will be a subtle or not so subtle effort to make them useless or favor the insurance companies even more.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 08:55:34 AM PDT

    •  But the teapartiers, who don't trust republicans, (6+ / 0-)

      are going to suspect that the word change indicates that by "reform" the Rs mean "reform" for a change.

      It's another wedge between R pols and a constituency parsing every statement for signs of the slightest deviation or backsliding.

      The dossier on my DKos activities during the Bush administration will be presented on February 3, 2014, with an appendix consisting an adjudication, dated "a long time ago", that I am Wrong.

      by Inland on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:02:10 AM PDT

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      •  They are already frothing at the mouth mad. (11+ / 0-)

        I went to the the dark side to get you some entertaining comments:

        Hot Air

        Good Lord. Whatever the democrats say the numbers are the GOP believes them. Just like the election: fraud? What fraud?

        SouthernGent on April 27, 2014 at 10:38 AM

        “Elect us and we will manage the destruction of our nation better.”

        PattyJ on April 27, 2014 at 10:38 AM

        And so it begins… Republicans helping Dems ‘fix’ Obamacare. Just like Republicans will help Dems ‘fix’ illegal immigration, by offering a ‘path to citizenship’.

        The GOP doesn’t really want my votes.

        Dems = neo-socialism

        GOP = neo-socialism lite

        Does voting for the lesser neo-socialist it really matter? Empirical evidence indicates it does not.

        farsighted on April 27, 2014 at 10:41 AM

        The GOP is like the UK “Conservative” Party.

        “We will manage the social welfare state more efficiently.”

        Wethal on April 27, 2014 at 10:47 AM

        And she was supposed to be a possible VP choice in 2016.

        Wethal on April 27, 2014 at 10:52 AM

        Well. Sure. She passes the two litmus test issues: Keep Obamacare. Grant Amnesty.

        oldroy on April 27, 2014 at 10:54 AM

        I’m done with this garbage. Not only are these idiots hell bent on minting millions of new Dem voters via amnesty, while getting NOTHING in return, they’re waving the white flag on ObamaCare despite all the issues with it and the incredible opportunity those represent. What the hell is the point anymore, when these are the people supposedly representing you?

        changer1701 on April 27, 2014 at 11:05 AM

        She’s an idiot.

        Tell me why we need these exchanges when all we need is a damned national market.

        Seriously, just this past Wednesday, I was at a local SW Ohio gathering at which a freshman GOP Congressman (Wenstrup) spoke, and he pitched repeal with one of the features of the world after repeal being national markets with insurers selling nationally as they do with car insurance.

        Why in the phuck can’t these GOP clowns get their act together?

        Are they really trying to blow the midterms?

        BuckeyeSam on April 27, 2014 at 11:06 AM

        The RINO surrender we all saw coming.

        Bitter Clinger on April 27, 2014 at 11:23 AM

        And she was supposed to be a possible VP choice in 2016.

        Wethal on April 27, 2014 at 10:52 AM

        You’re kidding… right?

        upinak on April 27, 2014 at 11:04 AM

        No, supposedly that’s one reason she got the SOTU reply.

        (And choosing her was supposed to blunt the GOP War on Wimmins attacks.)

        Wethal on April 27, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    •  Think "entitlement reform", "education reform" etc (5+ / 0-)

      With great power comes impunity.

      by JustBeKos on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:31:42 AM PDT

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  •  OMG. This has to be one of the more stupider thing (5+ / 0-)

    KMcR has said. She hasn't got a clue. I am so hoping the two people running against her this year are able to raise some $, because she has a HUGE war chest. One guy is an Independent. She needs to soo GO!!!!!!!!!

  •  You might start with another "R" word: Respect (6+ / 0-)

    After your decision to embrace the "C" word: Capitulate.

    Slow thinkers - keep right

    by Dave the Wave on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 08:57:13 AM PDT

  •  Ecch, knew that word was coming (4+ / 0-)

    like it always does for beneficial social programs.  Because of course they're all corrupt, evil, and wasteful, you know.  

    Guns don't kill people like hammers don't pound nails.

    by rschndr on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 08:58:18 AM PDT

  •  While this is a welcome development (7+ / 0-)

    I would still view any GOP suggestions for "reforming" ACA critically and carefully.  I think that she mentioned something about there not being enough plan choices? Wonder if she would be open to supporting a "Public Option"?  More choices, yes?  

  •  Yup, it's all over but the dying gasp. (4+ / 0-)

    The Republicans will still shriek about repeal and still be their obstructionist selves whenever possible, but I think we're past the days of seeing a weekly vote to repeal in the House.  The Republicans have to be waking up the fact that repealing the ACA will cause huge upheaval in the insurance and health care markets.

  •  Probably depends on the audience (9+ / 0-)

    When they are trying to activate their base they will use the repeal and replace language.   When the audience is more general then they will talk about reform.

  •  The health care industry stands in line to make (9+ / 0-)

    way too much money for them to let Republicans repeal the law.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:01:12 AM PDT

  •  Top Republican, Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers Of (12+ / 0-)

    Washington state is the lowest of the low when it comes to human beings.

    She is a grifter who has no interest in her constituents unless they are of the wealthiest 1%.

    She sold out being a human being long ago.

    When you look at the district that keeps re-electing her they are hardcore racists, homophobes, grifters, tea partiers, and the regular scum associated with Republicans.

    Cathy is more than happy to represent this group of haters.

    "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman.” - Arnold Schwarzenegger 2003

    by kerplunk on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:02:38 AM PDT

    •  What's with the negative (1+ / 0-)
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      characterization of the whole district? (i.e. your last two paragraphs)

      There are some racists, homophobes, etc., there, but it's unfair to characterize the whole district that way.

      Yes, the district leans conservative, but it's not exclusively right-wing; 43% of the voters chose Obama in 2012.  And it's the district that elected Tom Foley for 30 years; he became Speaker of the House.  They deserve somebody better than CMR.

      •  Agreed (1+ / 0-)
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        Demonizing your opponents is the go-to play for rightwingers. I like to think we are better than that here at dk. And you're right, characterizing ALL the voters in that district in those terms is bullshit.

        There was only one joker in L.A. sensitive enough to wear that scent...and I had to find out who he was!

        by virginislandsguy on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 11:02:47 AM PDT

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  •  Rigatoni? (4+ / 0-)

    "You cannot win improv." Stephen Colbert ( at 16:24).

    by Publius2008 on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:04:30 AM PDT

  •  I suggest another "R": reprehensible. (6+ / 0-)

    And I'd like to start another letter round: "H" for horseshit.

    "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

    by Wildthumb on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:05:22 AM PDT

  •  I refer to them the "Repealican Party"... (6+ / 0-)

    ... and will continue to do so between now and November 2016.

    “It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing
    he was never reasoned into” - Jonathan Swift

    by jjohnjj on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:05:34 AM PDT

  •  Rong. nt (1+ / 0-)
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    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:10:24 AM PDT

  •  Does she aspire to national office or something? (3+ / 0-)
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    Bridge Master, Delevie, jedennis

    People here in Washington use her name as a punchline.

    "What we have is not a system. It's a health care catastrophe with an organization around it." -- Dr. Carl Olden

    by gtnoah on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:10:30 AM PDT

  •  Rethugs' "Reform" of Obamacare = RAVAGE or RAPE (7+ / 0-)

    Real reform would be Single Payer Medicare-for-All, the Most Fiscally Responsible way to provide health care for all Americans, something the filthy rich, ultraconservative oligarchs won't tolerate.

  •  I have a feeling (6+ / 0-)

    that repealing ACA, like banning abortion and preventing LGBT equality, etc. that will be an ongoing "wedge" issue that the Republicans will perpetually run on to win votes, raise money, etc. even though they know that they will never actually be able to deliver on- but yet will somehow keep fooling the teabaggers that there's always "hope"........just around the corner.  

    •  Except that access to health care impacts far (4+ / 0-)

      more people than abortion or equality which can be sold as only being about "other" people.  Everyone needs health care.

      “The future depends entirely on what each of us does every day.” Gloria Steinem

      by ahumbleopinion on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 10:08:43 AM PDT

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      •  True (0+ / 0-)

        However, that hasn't stopped them from demonizing the ACA for the past four years, however, and probably won't slow them down much for the next few years.  After all, most of their "base" is covered either in that they are wealthy enough to pay out of pocket for gold-plated health care or are, ironically enough, covered by that old-age single payer program called Medicare.  Come to think of it, GOP opposition to ACA has never really made all that much sense outside their general opposition to everything PBO endorses or supports.  I mean, it was, after all, modeled after their own approach as endorsed by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts, which is a big part of the reason that they really have no alternatives to ACA- because they really don't have anywhere to go in terms of a competing plan other than "off the map" and their supplementary ideas such as "tort reform" or "interstate commerce" have already been attempted on a smaller scale with no meaningful benefits.        

        •  Unfortunately, they were able to successfully (1+ / 0-)
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          convince their base that "is covered either in that they are wealthy enough to pay out of pocket for gold-plated health care or are, ironically enough, covered by that old-age single payer program called Medicare"  that the ACA would harm them and destroy the country even though neither one is true.

          “The future depends entirely on what each of us does every day.” Gloria Steinem

          by ahumbleopinion on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 01:38:22 PM PDT

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          •  And they're going to keep up at it (1+ / 0-)
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            because "whatever helps them hurts us..........somehow, even if we can't quite explain how.......just......SOCIALISM!!! SOCIALISM!!! SOCIALISM!!!!"

          •  Just heard a story the other day (0+ / 0-)

            about a study that showed that many of those people claiming to have lost their individual policies due to ACA would've likely lost them anyway- though many people knowledgeable about insurance were already saying as much while the whole "If you like your plan...." nonsense was raging.  The experts were saying that many of those individual market policies often last only about year or two before they are changed/dropped, so the whole "lie of the year" really wasn't.  Some people clearly don't realize how the insurance market works or are just waking up to the facts of the market- but now they have something else that is easier and more politically potent to blame it on of course.

      •  Abortion in the case of rape (1+ / 0-)
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        is not about "other" people. Every woman knows women who has been raped, and is acutely conscious of being at risk herself. (Men would too, if women could actually talk to men about it.)

        I took part in the defeat of Richard "Rape babies are God's will" Mourdock in Indiana. A fifth of Republicans voted against him.

        Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

        by Mokurai on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 06:37:44 AM PDT

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        •  But that reaction was to the idea of being (0+ / 0-)

          raped, not the idea of "killing babies".

          “The future depends entirely on what each of us does every day.” Gloria Steinem

          by ahumbleopinion on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 08:17:40 AM PDT

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          •  Exactly (0+ / 0-)

            It is one of the reasons why Republicans have such a huge gender gap. Even women who are against abortion as a general thing and vote for regular Republicans take the rape and incest denial personally, and vote for Democrats over wackos.

            And the fraction of wackos in the party is increasing as the sane ones, particularly the youth, bail.

            Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

            by Mokurai on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:03:20 AM PDT

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    •  Actually... (1+ / 0-)
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      Social and Economic Justice (S&EJ) minded pols (so not most Dems and zero Repubs) could learn a lesson from these foaming mouth fascists.  They just need to do two things differently:
      1. Replace "wedge" with "glue"
      2. Don't make up "false facts"; don't lie

      S&EJ types might learn:
      1. Compromise is not a goal; it is a governing reality.  Stop touting it as one's finest quality.  Make clear your moral core - in E&SJ's case a better life with more opportunities for the vast majority of Americans - a return to fairness as a goal.  Be prepared to compromise on some stuff but not others.  There are, or aught to be, limits - no compromise, for instance, on making kids of working-class parents go hungry so Billionaire Welfare Oligarchs can get a new round of gov't "subsidies" like the Farm Bill did.  Stop leading with compromise.
      2. Fighting for moral issues and losing is NOT a zero gain.  It motivates like minded folks to rally to the issue (and vote!) and moves the Overton Window in your direction so the next time the issue comes up your proposal is better understood, more quickly accepted and your political position strengthened.

      The only reason the 1% are rich is because the 99% agree they are.

      by GreatLakeSailor on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 11:17:12 AM PDT

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  •  They have no plans for reform (5+ / 0-)

    It's just something to say during an election cycle to sound like you're against Obamacare without actually threatening to take people's health insurance away.  There isn't much room for Republicans to reform Obamacare because it's already pretty conservative.  

    They can't privatize it because it's already privatized.  The parts that help people can't be touched because they help people.  If they jigger the funding onto the backs of poor people they'll look like they're raising taxes on their base.  I suppose they could propose the whole stupid "block grant to the states" thing.

  •  Now why would anyone trust (3+ / 0-)
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    Bridge Master, cocinero, Janet 707

    those who've consistently called for repeal to offer productive reform?

    Democratic candidates have to underscore that the Republican party--every member of Congress and every senator--has until now called for repeal w/o ever offering an alternative.  

    In other words--

    They don't want you to have access to health care.

    Now that 9 million more people have it, and millions more have better health care than they had previously, American voters need to be reminded which party is fighting for their interests and for the good of the country as a whole.

  •  Most of the commenters get it (6+ / 0-)

    right. "Reform" to conservatives = repeal by other means. They can throw that term around each election for the rest of time to garner votes from those who don't understand what their actual goals are, making whatever they want to reform into whatever scandal they can find whenever one pops up (or gets created/massaged into an issue.) Find one person defrauding the system? Instantly claim there's massive fraud everywhere (think "Welfare Queen") and that the system needs "reforming." "We don't want to end it, we just think it can be better!" Who can argue against that, except corrupt Democrats and mealy-mouthed liberals?
    This is how the game is played, folks. We will now be subject to calls for ACA reform until it no longer exists, or conservatives are all gone. And it doesn't matter one whit that some people want it reformed in a different direction--they will still vote for the Rs based on other issues, and this will get defused as an issue that is defined by anyone other than the candidates themselves in their own elections.
    Next up? Immigration policy . . .

    "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

    by bryduck on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:22:18 AM PDT

    •  Oops; major editing problems, there. (2+ / 0-)
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      Bridge Master, Janet 707
      They can throw that term around each election for the rest of time to garner votes from those who don't understand what their actual goals are, making whatever they want to reform into whatever scandal they can find whenever one pops up (or gets created/massaged into an issue.)
      Should read:
      They can throw that term around each election for the rest of time to garner votes from those who don't understand what their actual goals are. Whatever scandal they can find whenever one pops up (or gets created/massaged into an issue) will then get played up as evidence proving the need for reform.

      "Lone catch of the moon, the roots of the sigh of an idea there will be the outcome may be why?"--from a spam diary entitled "The Vast World."

      by bryduck on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:26:11 AM PDT

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  •  It's not time they are wasting, it's $$ (2+ / 0-)
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    Janet 707, jmac4110

    Gotta run up lots of tabs for useless efforts to they can say 'we have to cut spending!' as an excuse to cut spending on people, infrastructure, stuff that matters.

  •  they can say good-bye to their crazy base. (3+ / 0-)
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    jasan, TofG, Janet 707

    and they'll need to conjure up some other pack of lies to run on.

    •  They should just call their 2014/2016 platform: (3+ / 0-)
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      TofG, Janet 707, jmac4110


      Because that's basically all they have to run on.  That's all they ever talk about.  They don't have any other grand policy ideas or suggestions anymore.  Now, they just (hope to) win by trying to either tear the other side down or make sure that their supporters have as much difficulty as possible voting.

    •  Wait till the crazy base hears this.. (2+ / 0-)
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      ahumbleopinion, a2nite

      It looks like the establishment GOP is hell bent to take care of the hispanic problem before the presidential race starts. From the sounds of it, at least DREAM act will pass before the August recess. And that will be enough for the base to revolt.

      The enthusiasm gap will be gone....poof..if this happens..

      Republican Congressman Joe Barton to Introduce Major Immigration Reform Bill

      During a recording of Lone Star Politics Friday, which aired this morning, Gromer Jeffers of The Dallas Morning News asked Republican Congressman Joe Barton (TX—6) what the chances were that some kind of immigration reform would be coming out of Congress this year.

      Rep. Barton responded that he will be introducing a major immigration reform bill within the next month to six weeks, that if passed, will solve our nation’s problem of a broken immigration system.

      “It takes care of the minor children, it puts them on a path to citizenship, it puts an emphasis on controlling the border, and it has a real guest worker program that will work. On the adults who came here illegally without documentation, we’ll do an individual check by check by check, and if the only illegal act they committed was coming into the country without the proper documentation, we will put them on a path to legalization, but not citizenship.”
  •  Kind of skeptical of the messenger here (4+ / 0-)

    I seem to remember her voting record and her lying statements about a fellow Washingtonian and Obamacare.  I would feel better if each and every one of these republican clowns would pay back the tax payers for their insulting voting record to repeal the ACA.

  •  Her office already backpeddled her quoted out of (3+ / 0-)
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    TofG, gtnoah, Janet 707

    context statement and she remains committed blah blah blah

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 09:43:51 AM PDT

  •  Reform: (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, Urban Space Cowboy

    Means to game the system and make it seem unworkable if we can.

  •  "repeal" (1+ / 0-)
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    TEApubliKKKan speak for "we will piss on this until it no longer lives, then tell everyone we were right all along,,,,"

  •  Until they use the "I" word....IDEA.....I don't (2+ / 0-)
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    a2nite, Janet 707

    Trust them....

  •  Be heros (0+ / 0-)

    ....The Republican Party could still come off as heros... by doing what they obstructed in the first place.....SINGLE PAYER OR MEDICARE FOR ALL...... that's a FIX or REFORM that the country would accept..... anything less is not going to be tolerated.....

    The only thing more unpopular than OBAMACARE  is REPEALING OBAMACARE..... which I think the Repubs have found out the hard way..... that of course wont include Cruz, Palin, Bachman, Blackburn, Limbaugh, Beck...& the FOX chicks... the drama queens will have to whine about something else Obawa.....

  •  Reform? (2+ / 0-)
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    TiredOfGOPLies, raspberryberet

    That's the word they use when they want to make something more expensive and/or far less useful and effective. Think welfare reform, bankruptcy reform, education reform, SS reform, tax reform, trade reform, labor law reform, etc.

    Keep your Republican hands off my ACA!

    "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

    by happy camper on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 11:02:29 AM PDT

  •  "R" for "righteous"! (0+ / 0-)
  •  Ol' Mc-Rodgers is NOT a "top House Republican" (2+ / 0-)
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    Leftovers, raspberryberet

    How that peculiar and ridiculous crock-a-baloney ever got started is a mystery. The idiot stenographer media hacks keep repeating that Cathy McSimpleton is the number 4 House Republican because she holds some meaningless office in the House GOP Conference (or "caucus" as the less bright pundits word it).

    The real power structure for House Republicans is:
     #1 = Speaker Boehner; #2 = Majority Leader Cantor; #3 = House Whip Kevin McCarthy; and #4 = Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (in some sessions of Congress, the Chair of the Appropriations Committee has been perceived as number 4).

    McRodgers has no legislative power whatsoever. None. Ziff. Nada. Zilch. She is a "member" of 6 committees--Armed Services, Education & Labor, Education & the Workforce, Energy & Commerce, Natural Resources, and Resources. She is not even a subcommittee chair and has almost no ranking as power broker.

    It's all a fool's joke.

    We're all just working for Pharaoh.

    by whl on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 11:18:59 AM PDT

    •  Chair of the House Republican Conference (1+ / 0-)
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      …the party caucus for Republicans in the United States House of Representatives. It hosts meetings and is the primary forum for communicating the party's message to members. It produces a daily publication of political analysis under the title Legislative Digest.
      and House female. Her principal job is standing behind the three actual leaders at photo ops. They let her speak once, in response to the SOTU address. Major fail on purported Obamacare horror story.

      Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

      by Mokurai on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 06:47:44 AM PDT

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  •  Reform in gopspeak (2+ / 0-)

    is exactly the same thing as PRIVATIZE. Gut the law and let corporations decide if they want to insure people.
    Don't get to giddy because remember welfare REFORM?

    Jesus only performs miracles for people with enough time on their hands to make that crap up.

    by KneecapBuster on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 11:25:36 AM PDT

  •  Good conversation, but I still think (1+ / 0-)
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    we're not quite getting it. We are missing the true Republican strategy:
    1 Get the ACA passed - just in a form that keeps the money flowing - i.e. mandates, but no public option.
    2. let the useful idiots rant - it keeps the base riled, and it makes it impossible for legitimate criticism.
    3. now - once the public has accepted the ACA, even with its warts - start the reform. Just reform away the parts like the 20% profit ceiling, but not the mandates.
    When they're through the ACA will be like car insurance - three times the cost, not worth the paper it's written on, but everyone has to have it and even thinks it's a good idea. (until they file a claim, then they rationalize that it is a "necessary evil" because "the alternative would be worse")

  •  If by "reform" she means anything other than (1+ / 0-)
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    single payer, she needs to keep her filthy right wing hands off my Obamacare!

  •  ACA (0+ / 0-)

    Let's hope they keep up the repeal act.  It'll get rid of the dead wood by voting them out of office.  Then maybe congress can actually do something to help the country.

  •  Rodgers: "Bette in Spokane" in SOU response (0+ / 0-)

    Rodgers gave the official GOP response to Obama's 2014 state of the union address. In the response, Rodgers spoke about "Bette in Spokane," who'd been screwed by Obamacare. The story was immediately debunked.

    For Rodgers to turn around is particularly significant.

    "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

    by HeyMikey on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 12:43:08 PM PDT

  •  Reform could be good... (0+ / 0-)

    ... if they would just re form it into Medicare for everyone who wants it.

  •  Same Shit, Different Day (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    Well, without any specifics. Without calling off the dogs. Without actually stopping the insane repeal vote circus. Without apologizing to the world for their demented rampage against the ACA and the damage that rampage has inflicted.

    Without reality actually changing, this is just semantic bullshit. Just more reframing. Just sugar coating. Reform it to death like they have with all their other "reforms" on so many other things.

    When the Teapublucans end this Second Civil War they've been fighting since a black man got elected President, then maybe I'll believe this liar.

    A man does as he is when he can do what he wants

    by BobBlueMass on Mon Apr 28, 2014 at 01:08:06 PM PDT

  •  Reforming the ACA (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    belinda ridgewood

    Every time I hear some lawmaker or "guy on the street" complain about how terrible Obamacare is, all I hear are more arguments in favor of socializing the entire industry. We could even keep most of those employed by healthcare insurance providers on the job by making them government employees.  The only people who might not be able to find a place in the bureaucracy would be the corporate executive leadership (CEOs, upper level management, etc), but I'm pretty sure they have enough saved up in the bank and in investments that they would still be financially secure, even without a job.

    What most Americans have not figured out is that most of the rest of the world views healthcare as a basic human right, not as yet another way to make money.  Once we as a country realize that every human has a right to healthcare, the easier it will be to recognize the importance of having affordable healthcare for everyone, not just a benefit for the monied few.

  •  it takes awhile (0+ / 0-)

    for the gop to figure it out but after banging their heads against a brick wall even the conservatives get the message eventually.

  •  Notice how she was not able to say it for long? (0+ / 0-)

    She had to backtrack on the idea of reform, because conservative think tanks and GOP propaganda machines have been pushing that idea so long, it now seems treasonous to accept it as reality.  This is problematic.

    Because of the fanaticism created by these groups, most GOP candidates must take extreme positions on many issues that are opposed to reality.  If they want to keep their jobs, they must continue to push these positions in Washington.

    Since the House is likely to stay GOP-controlled for a long time, we will be faced with a House that is controlled by people who have to push an agenda that is at odds with what is known to be true.

    Maybe this will cause the House to shift control.  But American voters do not like the entire government to be under the control of one party, so SOME part will be Republican.  And that part has to deny Obamacare, deny Climate Change, and deny that racism exists.

    The GOP created this monster in the form of fanatic American conservative voters, and those voters know that ACA is bad and Climate Change is a hoax perpetrated by liberals.  Facts cannot change that, because once a fanatic learns the truth, they see every attempt to dissuade them as an attack or conspiracy.

    There are fanatical liberals, too -- lots of them.  But they do not dominate the voting, so they are less dangerous.  And they have only a few core issues -- like abortion rights -- that do not have a material impact on the economy or climate of this country.

    Basically, we have a generation of crazy to look forward to.

  •  IT'S THE L WORD (0+ / 0-)

    The word I fear in republican reform is lobbyist.  Those are the ones that will drive up costs and cut any efficiency.

  •  The ACA (0+ / 0-)

    is a step in the right direction. We need a single payer system of health care.

  •  And then...... (0+ / 0-)

    Next it will be Refresh.

  •  Some of it does need repeal.... (0+ / 0-)

    That would be every Republican amendment in it.

  •  Just curious, (0+ / 0-)

    how much more tea is it necessary to spoon feed a woman to get her to regurgitate the Radical Republican filth?

    "It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain

  •  Somebody (0+ / 0-)

    from the GOP certainly had a word with her, didn't they?

  •  Yay! (0+ / 0-)

    That's all I have...

  •  Republican Health Care? (0+ / 0-)

    Republicans have been searching for a replacement for "Obamacare" for a few years. They have come up with absolutely nothing. What is the difference between repeal or nothing at all as a replacement?

    Several Republican Governors, like Scott Walker of Wisconsin, have refused Medicare expansion, which would insure the very poor. The plan would cost their states nothing. Rejection's price is needless suffering and death among their poor, just as it always has been. Is this negligent homicide not a right to life issue?
    On average, 9,000 persons per state died from lack of health care insurance. Those bloody red states are doing more than taking away women's and minorities rights, they are taking lives and passing laws to make it easy to buy and use the tools of killing - guns.

    If you think the Pope is upset, wait until God has his say! The GOP is a death syndicate.

  •  Its not what they say... (0+ / 0-)

    Ever since Frank Luntz and his followers took over Humpty Dumpty's playbook  I have become very wary of words with benign connotations. They usually are used with pejorative intent.

    "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean- neither more nor less."
    Through the Looking Glass

  •  "r" word? (0+ / 0-)

    Unless it is RESPECT from republicans shown to President Obama, the r still means all of those disRespectful people who need mental theRapy.  Until the r people can admit they have been wRong and also admit that the rest of us  are Relieved to finally have health care available to us. We don't need r people.

  •  If the republicans take over the senate... (0+ / 0-)

    ...they will reform it out of usefulness until it is dead and then say, "See! We told you it wouldn't work" IMO.

  •  "Reform" as spoken by a Republican (0+ / 0-)

    is code for "deform."  

  •  Isn't she the one who gave the rebuttal... (0+ / 0-)

    to the State of the Union Address?

    As I recall, she was pretty coarse in her comments about the ACA at that time.

    Why should I take her at her word now?

    OOPS! there's that article update! She's backpedaling already!

    You can expect an absolute PLETHORA of republican lies over the next 5 months...

  •  Obamacare (aka Romneycare) "reform" (0+ / 0-)

    Oh GOODY!!! We get yet another "reform" from our bribed and treasonous Congress on the order of Shrubs' "reform of Medicare... Thus banning Medicare from negotiating the best price with drug and durable equipment manufacturers!!  

    Oke kiddies, say it with me...
    "A BRIBED and TREASONOUS Congress!"

    Can We The People rise up and charge these SOBs with their treason against the Nation and Her Constitution under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, or do we use RICO?

  •  Someone needs to tell Boehner and his gang of (0+ / 0-)

    thugs in the House. They still seem to be hard at holding more and more frequent votes to repeal Obamacare. The jig is up and we all knew this was coming. Let's hope it does not take too much longer for it to sink into the skulls of the Repubs/Baggers. Especially the likes of Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan. Sheesh, guys!!

  •  a lot of good (0+ / 0-)

    I have heard more of good than bad but the bad is really bad.  Florida woman dies because she is not covered under an insurance plan because the state refused the Federal money.  
    Federal tax dollars are going to go somewhere.  How about spending some in Florida there current resident republican state governors mansion occupier.  What a waste.  

  •  Current Republican Process: (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:

    1) Say something that makes sense;

    2) Read the rabid comments from the Tea Party on various internet pages;

    3) Claim you never said ANYTHING that makes sense;

    4) Hope to God that nobody realizes you're a flip-flopping namby-pamby lacking the courage of any convictions (other than the conviction that you have to be reelected because you're not really qualified for any job other than Republican officeholder);

    5) Repeat.

  •  So, what does (0+ / 0-)

    "reform" mean in Republican-speak these days?

    My guess is that it means, "Change it so that 'those people' [whichever group they're against including in their party this week] can no longer be included in any insurance plan.

    Week 1: women
    Week 2: blacks
    Week 3: Hispanics and Latinos because, after all, they might be here illegally and, after all, you can't be too careful
    Week 4: Gays [How do we know they're gay?  We can tell.  We can always tell.]
    Week 5:  Oh, hell, anyone who has ever voted Democrat during the last 20 years.  That should cover it.

    The price of apathy is to be ruled by evil men - - Plato . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . We must be the change we wish to see in the world - - Mohandas Gandhi

    by twocrows1023 on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 04:08:27 PM PDT

  •  The GOP Galileo (0+ / 0-)

    Cathy McMorris Rodgers has uttered words on the Index and will soon be shown the instruments of persuasion. Her time is short.

    "The skeleton in the closet is coming home to roost!" Tom Stoppard

    by Apotropoxy on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 04:42:21 PM PDT

  •  Oh, brother... (0+ / 0-)

    Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers is a well-certified bobble head. She would be better off just flip-flopping to the reality of Obamacare, and at least align herself the desires of the people of Washington State.

    Instead, she just sounds like a venal kook. I'm certain this doesn't even get her attention, let alone bother her.

  •  Obamacare (0+ / 0-)

    McMorris is just the token woman in the leadership of House Republicans.  She, like Boehner and the majority leader who tell her what to say as they are told to pass along by the Kochs, Lund. Chrystal (who is wrong all the time). and other Republicans who stay out of the limelight but are really telling the House leadership to do and are therefore running it, unelected.

    She must have goofed and not memorized what to say since she had to "clarify." Maybe, they can get that B word House member from middle TN to take her place.

  •  KKKoc卐 Inc. backed TeaNanderthals real r word (0+ / 0-)

    The only R words that applies to the GOP are racist and radical.
    Voting for any local, state or federal republican politician is like digging your own grave, while the GOP is digging graves for our children and grand children.
    jus' sayin'

  •  She is a lying (0+ / 0-)

    republican liar, that's what the GOP do, they lie. First they say lie, then they lie about lying republican lies with another republican lie. What a wicked web of lies the lying republican liars lie about.

  •  Replace it (0+ / 0-)

    with single-payer universal health care insurance.

  •  Remember she was the one who told all those (0+ / 0-)

    lies about the horrors of Obamacare during the Republican rebuttal after the state of the Union address.  

    Beware when Republicans want to 'reform' anything

  •  Every Republican ad on teevee (0+ / 0-)

    crows about how how many times they voted against Obamacare and how they're going to repeal it. Now what are they going to campaign on?

    It's not just a zip code, it's an attitude.

    by sboucher on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 10:45:51 PM PDT

  •  It is a delusion to think Repubicans (0+ / 0-)

    have changed their intention to make the poor and middle classes slaves of the rich and big corporations nor their MO of deception and outright lies.  Obamacare has always been a sellout to the health insurance industry, not a genuine attempt to make health care a right of every person in America, and Republicans have only changed their stripes, not their hearts.

  •  we still suck (0+ / 0-)

    WE Democrats and liberals STill suck, because apparently we can't be be bothered to go vote, or to give money to Get Out the Vote programs.

    If we can do it in presidential elections, why not in midterms????
    Please don't tell me you only have money/time to go vote once every 4 years.

  •  are you (0+ / 0-)

    really that gullible???

    reform is just code for repeal.

  •  So they give up trying to repeal the ACA (0+ / 0-)

    all at once and will now adopt the strategy of killing it by 1000 cuts and calling it reform.  I would not trust the Republicans to try to improve the ACA right now.  Don't be fooled.  It is the same strategy used to dismantle most other social programs to the point where they are almost useless and meaningless.  

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