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Mason Atkins writes Final Day Of Keystone XL ‘Reject And Protect’ Rally Draws Thousands:

On a weekend where some were expecting rain, the final day of the week-long ‘Reject and Protect‘ rally against the Keystone XL pipeline brought clear skies, warm sun and thousands of people to the National Mall in Washington, D.C. The protest was organized by the Sierra Club,, Bold Nebraska and the Cowboy and Indian Alliance, an organization of cowboys, ranchers, farmers, land owners, and Native Americans from the regions that will be affected by the construction of the pipeline.

“What is life? Life is water itself and water is life itself,” said Casey Camp-Horinek, a Native American Ponca woman from Ponca, Oklahoma and the White Eagle Community and a featured speaker at the day’s rally. Camp-Horniek was referring to the Ogallala Aquifer, the largest aquifer in the Great Plains area of the United States, covering eight states and providing water to millions of people. The Kansas Geological Survey at Kansas State University calls it “one of the most accessible groundwater systems in the world” — asystem threatened by the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline. To Camp-Horinek, putting so much emphasis on scientific impacts often causes us to overlook our own connection to nature and the environment, “those things called aquifer and those things that are scientifically spoken of, to us, are life.”

Art Tanderup, a farmer from Nebraska, sees his opposition to the pipeline as a fight for his life, as well. Tanderup has been an outspoken and creativeopponent to the pipeline, due to the fact that the pipeline’s proposed route runs directly through his property. Tanderup told Think Progress on Saturday that the potential risk to the Ogallala Aquifer is not worth the payout. “There is no amount of money that could buy access to our land … In the Midwest, that aquifer is life,” he explained. “It provides our drinking water, the water for livestock, animals. It provides irrigation for our crops. It provides water for our villages and cities, it’s the life of Nebraska, South Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma. It’s life out there.”

Proponents for another source of life, the preservation of wildlife, from theNational Wildlife Federation, made their concerns known, as well. Sam Lockhart, the National Outreach Coordinator at NWF said the native caribou population in Canada could see its habitat “completely destroyed by all of the developments of the Keystone pipeline.” Mollie Simon, also with NWF, brought up concerns with the habitats of bird species that migrate between Canada and the United States.

Blast from the Past. At Daily Kos on this date in 2004Mercs part of Iraqi jail torture scandal:


Graphic photographs showing the torture and sexual abuse of Iraqi prisoners in a US-run prison outside Baghdad emerged yesterday from a military inquiry which has left six soldiers facing a possible court martial and a general under investigation.

The scandal has also brought to light the growing and largely unregulated role of private contractors in the interrogation of detainees.
According to lawyers for some of the soldiers, they claimed to be acting in part under the instruction of mercenary interrogators hired by the Pentagon.
This gets pretty bad:

Lawyers for the soldiers argue they are being made scapegoats for a rogue military prison system in which mercenaries give orders without legal accountability.

Tweet of the Day:  

That's honoring them. RT @DavidCornDC: Hey, what if #Sterling had said, "Make sure you don't bring any redskins to the game."

On today's Kagro in the Morning show: Bothered again today by more bad comparisons of the Bush dynasty to the Clintons. Greg Dworkin parses the latest polls, then leads us back to Sasha Issenberg's TNR entry for further discussion. Rs finally learning ACA isn't going anywhere. And a dubious "Doctor's Declaration of Independence." Mass shooting news from GA this morning, where of course, they recently went gun bonkers in the legislature. From Time's archives: "Do Guns Save Lives?" Well, they don't like this one much! E.J. Dionne on the new GA gun nuttery. What kind of signals do the wackos think they're receiving? Finally, more from the big Issenberg article.

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  •  1,017,071 registered users on dKos now. (20+ / 0-)

    Here are the 10 newest registered users on dKos.  Hope to see their comments and diaries here soon!  (If they're not spammers.)

    tcameron97 (user #1,017,062: spammer)
    DailyKosPoster987 (user #1,017,065: already banned)
    solly199 (user #1,017,069: already banned)

    And since our society is obsessed with numbers that end in a lot of zeros as milestones, here's a special shoutout to users:
    #1,016,900: justclick (spammer)
    #1,017,000: CheerfulVoter  (note the extra space at the end)

    We've added 211 more users in the last 24 hours.  There's definitely been a recent increase in spammers in the last couple weeks.

    And for your Diary Rescue music pleasure, for any fans of Community out there, here's Michael Haggins' "Daybreak".

  •  And the Clippers lead! (12+ / 0-)

    40-32 8 min to go in 2nd quarter.

    Show that racist owner WHO makes the game.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 08:33:48 PM PDT

  •  So my Ron Paul friends... (10+ / 0-)

    posted about this police shooting, but had a much more threatening tone to it:

    So this much is clear: the government will do nothing to stop their hired thugs from murdering innocent people and terrorizing families every single day. There will come a day very very soon where instead of seeking false "justice" from their masters in government, the people will realize that if they want justice, they'll have to go get it for themselves.
    These cases are horrible to hear about, but the libertarians seem to think the answer is to start murdering cops, as if that will make things better.  :-\
  •  Booking banning in Idaho (15+ / 0-)

    How very conservative fascist of them.

    Parents Call Cops to Stop Kids From Handing Out Banned Book:

    After a group of Idaho parents succeeded in getting a novel pulled from a school's 10th grade curriculum, they called the cops on students who organized to give away copies of the banned book.

    Earlier this month, parents convinced Idaho's Meridian school district to ban Sherman Alexie's National Book Award-winning Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian over the objections of 350 students who signed a petition to keep it.

    According to the local paper, the Statesman, adults argued at a meeting that the book contains offensive words "we do not speak in our home," while others objected to a "reference to masturbation," and called the book "anti-Christian."

    “I would like to get rid of the homophobes, sexists, and racists in our audience. I know they're out there and it really bothers me.” ― Kurt Cobain

    by Jeff Y on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 08:39:26 PM PDT

  •  In Light of Many Recent Events (2+ / 0-)
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    Some day, Americans are going to abandon the wisdom of "common sense" and get to the point where everybody, anybody, can start throwing everything they have in to becoming whatever they wish to be. Reactionaries are going to wonder, "Why?"
    It's an axiom of life. Idiot's rarely come to understand why they're wrong.
    It may take a decade or decades to come, but, so much for centuries, I think. The end of difference as a consideration appears to be winking at us from the horizon.
    Personally, I plan to wink back.

    We are one.

    To quote the greatest philosopher of the 20th century: "I yam what I yam, and that's all what I yam."

    by franklyn on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 08:40:18 PM PDT

  •  Quickly refuting the anti-vaxxers (9+ / 0-)

    I know Penn & Teller have some dubious claims on global warming, but this takedown of the anti-vaxxers is a great thing to see, and should be shared widely on social media.  Here's how to show the anti-vaxxers are full of shit in just 90 seconds.

  •  So Mark Cuban went Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! (4+ / 0-)
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    Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban condemned Donald Sterling’s racist comments but expressed deep skepticism about efforts to remove him from the league, calling it “a very very very slippery slope.” Cuban emphasized that Sterling’s remarks were “private thoughts [he had] at home.”
    Since it appears he went along with the Ban

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 08:41:46 PM PDT

    •  So, you approve of spying (0+ / 0-)

      on private conversations?  And you further approve that illegal recordings of those private conversations should be grounds for legal action against someone?

      Hey, NSA!  We have some proponents for what you do!

      •  Legal action? (0+ / 0-)

        Sterling no doubt signed contracts forcing him to abide by decisions of the NBA leadership as part of owning a NBA franchise. The NBA has a right to force this man out of their organization for damaging their brand.

         Comparing this to the NSA spying is so ridiculous that I'm not even entirely sure that you are being serious. Forgive me if I missed a joke here.

  •  If we don't start raising some serious hell about (9+ / 0-)

    this, we're (Daily Kos) fucked.

    The Internet Is About to Become Worse Than Television:

    The proposed rules were revealed in the New York Times, and they would overturn the principle of "network neutrality" on the internet. Put simply, network neutrality allows you to use services from rich companies like Google and small startups with equal speed through your ISP. You can read a blog hosted on somebody's home server, and it loads just as quickly as a blog on Tumblr.

    Without network neutrality, Tumblr could cut a deal with your ISP — let's say it's Comcast — and its blogs would load really quickly while that home server blog might take minutes to load pictures. It might not even load at all. You can see why people in the freedom-of-speech obsessed United States might not be happy with chucking network neutrality. It privileges some speech over others, based on financial resources.

    This is the first step toward a world where corporate monopolies on content start affecting not just what you can see and read online — but also how you gain access to it. The signal will be out there, but your ISP just won't deliver it to you.

    “I would like to get rid of the homophobes, sexists, and racists in our audience. I know they're out there and it really bothers me.” ― Kurt Cobain

    by Jeff Y on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 08:51:11 PM PDT

  •  MSNBC: Donald Sterling (8+ / 0-)

    Yep, the big talk was about Donald Sterling and his lifetime ban.  Chris talked about this with Bill Maher.  Rachel talked with Len Elmore.  Ari Melber, still filling in for Lawrence, talked with Rev. Al Sharpton, Eugene Robinson, Dorian Warren, and E.J. Dionne.  Ed talked with Rev. Al Sharpton and Paul Swangard.

    And sadly, John Kerry was forced to apologize for warning Israel about turning into an apartheid state, because AIPAC is still way too strong of a force.  Ted Cruz is gleeful about this, which means it's bad for America, and humanity.  Chris talks about this with Josh Block.

    Chris also talked about the new appointment at the Port Authority to replace David Samson.

    Rachel also covered the botched Oklahoma execution with lawyer Madeline Cohen.  Ari covered this as well, talking with reporter Ziva Branstetter.

    Rachel also had a facepalming segment about the latest polling on what Americans think about Obama's handling of Russia/Ukraine, talking with John Harwood about how Americans AGREE with Obama on the actions he's taken, and yet say they hate what he's doing overall.  It's just like the Obamacare polls, where people love the pieces, and hate the law.  Oy.

    Ari also had on Garrett Bryant and Zach Wahls to talk about Bryant getting kicked out of the Boy Scouts after rumors that he is gay.  (He is gay, FWIW.)  Ari then looked at how the Obama administration has gotten some high-profile actors to help raise awareness of sexual assault on college campuses, talking with reporter Kristen Lombardi.

    Ed talked about Paul Ryan and the Congressional Black Caucus with Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC).  He celebrated Wisconsin's voter ID law being struck down by the courts.  He looked at the Keystone XL pipeline and talked with pipeline supporter Rep. Lee Terry (R-NE).  And he looked at how the Florida state legislature killed their version of the DREAM Act with Connie Schultz and Annette Taddeo.

  •  There is already perilous depletion of the (5+ / 0-)
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    Ogallala Aquifer due to big ag. Recharge rates cannot match current loss of volume. All efforts at management of the precious resource are futile if it is poisoned. The bread basket of the nation is just outright screwed then. The repercussions go so far beyond those who depend on it as a primary freshwater source, it staggers the mind.

  •  Tweet: No Redskins! (1+ / 0-)
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    I guess RGIII and Brian Orakpo wouldn't be attending....

    I'm a longtime 'Skins fan.  That said, I think that Dan Snyder's digging his heels in is just delaying the inevitable.  I think a team rename is going to happen eventually.  For the good.

    I have also always thought that the logo was respectful, especially if you compare it to the Cleveland Indian's logo (why is that allowed to exist?).  Washington never made fun of Native Americans.  We never had such a thing as a tomahawk chop.  And to me, the Cowboys/Indians thing never was a thing.  We just had a rivalry with the Cowboys.

    Washington has already dealt with a major sports team name change.  Wizards?  Really?  I was happy to see the last uniform change incorporated the old Bullets design.  

    I also think there's a karmic link to the Washington Football Team's ability to win!

  •  I know this is probably not (6+ / 0-)

    the right place to pose a question like this

    but is it possible to be turned into a sociopath when you are an adult?

    and if you are a sociopath how do you deal with it?

    Psychological abuse is real and can actually be prevented. Being stalked by a sociopath. And I don't know what to do about it.

    by Krush on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:06:24 PM PDT

    •  Nowadays most sociopaths register their names (4+ / 0-)
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      with authorities so as to make it easier for the rest of us to keep track of them.


      Donald Sterling Is a Registered Republican

      “I would like to get rid of the homophobes, sexists, and racists in our audience. I know they're out there and it really bothers me.” ― Kurt Cobain

      by Jeff Y on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:14:41 PM PDT

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    •  Interesting question. (4+ / 0-)
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           I don't know the answer but I wonder, why do you ask ?

      The free market is not the solution, the free market is the problem.

      by Azazello on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:15:07 PM PDT

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      •  I have been through some (9+ / 0-)

        very painful experiences over the past two years and I cant really talk about them in detail. Well actually over the past six years but the past two years things really got very bad for me.

        Now I sometimes I don't even feel anything except I get irritatable or sad or I feel panic. And thats it. And its not normal because I used to be really sensitive. And I get confused about everything.

        The only reason I am online so much right now is because most of the people on this blog are smart and I have no one to discuss it with.

        Psychological abuse is real and can actually be prevented. Being stalked by a sociopath. And I don't know what to do about it.

        by Krush on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:23:27 PM PDT

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        •  See a doctor IMMEDIATELY! (13+ / 0-)

          I cannot stress this intensely enough. It was my savior. And, in the end, so goddamned simple and easy, I can't believe it to this day.

          To quote the greatest philosopher of the 20th century: "I yam what I yam, and that's all what I yam."

          by franklyn on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:30:05 PM PDT

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        •  I agree 100% w/Franklin (12+ / 0-)

          On both accounts, see a Dr. and IMO you are depressed.

          Our family has suffered a lot of losses in a short time and I'm constantly checking myself because my emotions can be weird. Sometimes over the top and sometimes none at all.

          I snap at people then feel bad, I'm sort of on a rollercoaster. Right now I don't feel I need medication but I am more than willing to take it if I feel I need it.

          I've suffered depression before and you sound a lot like I felt at teh time, not to go all Frist on ya, I'm really just suggesting not diagnosing.

          Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. They lie through their teeth with their head up their behind. You open up their hearts and here's what you'll find - Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. John Prine

          by high uintas on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:54:18 PM PDT

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        •  Psychological abuse IS real. (2+ / 0-)
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          And if you've suffered through it over the past six years, then being emotionally affected by it is only natural.  

          Non-specialists on the internets can't tell you the nature of your problems, especially with few specifics, BUT, there's a lot more to what they apparently now call "anti-social personality disorder" than not feeling things deeply:

          According to DSM-IV, symptoms of antisocial personality disorder include disregard for right and wrong and for others' feelings, habitual lying, deceitful and manipulative behavior, absence of remorse, rationalizing or blaming others for one's own mistakes, repeated lawbreaking, irresponsibility in work and finances, unconcern for one's own safety or that of others, impulsivity, and aggressive behaviors such as fighting.

          ...Dr. Martha Stout believe many sociopaths are not violent, avoid committing crimes, and live in society with their disorder unnoticed except by the people they harm.

          In her book "The Sociopath Next Door," Stout describes sociopaths as outwardly charming predators, possessing a keen ability to discern what others want to hear and using that to manipulate others for their own gain, with no remorse for any harm they cause. Because they are aware of the emotions they'd be expected to feel in various situations, they become adept at faking them when necessary and thus appear normal. Sociopaths use charm and flattery to draw others into their confidence and ferret out their weaknesses, desires and goals, says psychiatrist Dr. Stanley Kapuchinski. Believing everyone is corruptible, they seek to compromise their victims' values and control them, and then blame their victims for bringing about whatever harm results.

          Because sociopaths don't believe there is anything wrong with them, they are very difficult to treat, says Stout, who notes that psychiatry cannot instill a conscience where none exists. Sociopaths seldom seek treatment.

          © cai Visit to join the fight against global warming.

          by cai on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 12:03:43 AM PDT

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        •  As long as you actually feel emotions... (5+ / 0-)

          ... you're not a sociopath.  You can't be "turned into a sociopath."

          Extreme emotional or mental trauma can cause a person to consciously shut down his/her emotions (at least while in public) because it's too overwhelming to deal with some of them - but suppressing things can boomerang when it's done too long and a person can have an emotional or mental meltdown at inappropriate moments.

          To get back to letting yourself feel emotions that are appropriate to any given situation, you really need to see a psychotherapist - and the sooner the better.

          Start calling around to set up an appointment first thing in the morning.  I can't stress how important it is to get your situation into perspective as soon as humanly possible; if you haven't talked to anyone about it, you need to be able to talk with a good counselor who will help talk you through whatever it is you've been unable to talk about (confidential situations are none of our business so no one on this blog with an ounce of ethics will ask you about what's bothering you - but you obviously need to talk with someone since you've kept whatever this is to yourself so long, and a good therapist or counselor could probably help you the best).

          Start with your regular doctor, explain what you can, and ask for a referral.  If that doesn't help, call counseling or psychotherapy offices to set up an appointment..., but do it before the week is out.

          Good luck.

          I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

          by NonnyO on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 12:43:22 AM PDT

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          •  I think there is no way to get a counselor (4+ / 0-)
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            but I need to find someone I can talk to about all of this

            thank you for writing this

            Psychological abuse is real and can actually be prevented. Being stalked by a sociopath. And I don't know what to do about it.

            by Krush on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 02:05:24 AM PDT

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            •  Your local community services board (4+ / 0-)
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              should have a mental health department. Most of them will do a financial and put you on a sliding scale for payments.
              How about a pastor of some sort. If you're religion shy, perhaps a Universal Unitarian would be worth a try.
              And if you're being stalked by a sociopath, see your magistrate, get a restraining order, if you have not already.

              Only thing more infuriating than an ignorant man is one who tries to make others ignorant for his own gain. Crashing Vor

              by emmasnacker on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 05:41:55 AM PDT

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            •  Feel free to kos mail me (1+ / 0-)
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              we can talk. I don't know what your times zone is but I'm on MDT and we can talk if you want to exchange numbers. Or we can do it thru kos mail, email,...hell I'll learn how to handle pigeons if you need it.

              Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. They lie through their teeth with their head up their behind. You open up their hearts and here's what you'll find - Some humans ain't human some people ain't kind. John Prine

              by high uintas on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 07:16:51 AM PDT

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  •  Powerful symbolism of Reject and Protect (12+ / 0-)

    of all the actions 350 and other ngo's have generated, the Cowboy Indian Alliance has the potential to move Obama on the side of rejecting the Keystone Pipeline. A slower moving but still important action is the ongoing effort to divest.

    I'd like to ask for your support regarding Harvard Divestment. The Harvard Divestment team contacted the DK blogathon team last week to stand in solidarity with them. Please sign the petition below and join us tomorrow for the Harvard Divestment Blogathon. Thank you.

    Harvard Fossil Fuel Divestment Blogathon – Please Sign the Petition to Show Your Support

    On April 30, Harvard students will form a blockade outside the President Faust's office in support of divestment from fossil fuel. A coalition of NGOs support the blockade and ask for your support.  We've been asked to hold a blogathon here the same day to help spread the word and obtain more signatures on their petition.  For Harvard students divestment campaign, please sign this petition.
    Coalition includes:, Forecast the Facts, CREDO

    "Life is not about waiting for the storm to pass... it is about learning to dance in the rain." ~ Vivanne Grenne Shop Kos Katalogue!

    by remembrance on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:19:36 PM PDT

  •  When is enough, enough! (7+ / 0-)

    Just heard on BBC that Oklahoma really botched an execution.

    Most of us are above average. Do we have such wonderful, comfortable jobs that we cannot stop this kind crap? Are we so intellegent that we still can't stop those wackjob politicians from ruining our world and our childrens lives? Damnit something needs to be done and done now.

    Are we just to cowardly to take over?

    Sorry, it just makes me sick to my stomach.

  •  Bill Maher on proportionality (7+ / 0-)

    Struth, Bill. The outrage should be focused on the impending Extinction Event 6.0 and not obsessing on weird racist views of the wealthy elderly beyond the extent to which the shape the social and economic structures of our culture. Overt old school racists die out from flu or pneumonia, but very little is restraining dominion-exercising ventures that appropriate our common wealth (that's right, that's how we used to think of countries). It's more than the tar sands and hydrocarbon removal. It's more than sloppy removal of ores and minerals. It's more than the unfettered theft of our fresh water supplies, over 95% of which is in the form of groundwater. It's more than screwing up the atmosphere. We are born with nothing and we take nothing with us when we die. The one thing we have while we're here is the bounty of the legacy left to us by our predecessors, and it's all we can leave our descendants.  

  •  Until you realize that economics is not a science (0+ / 0-)

    but just another fraternity to string along with the rich and wealthy for a comfortable do nothing job but to philosophy AND that the only true democracy ever to exist in the history of earth was the Athenian democracy under Pericles then the only thing you'll ever be able to do as the people is throw the system is convulsions like James Madison said was all the people would be able to do in his Republic then you will never give your children a Real America,

    If the people in Kentucky were truly religious and Christian as they tell themselves as being then they wouldn't re-elect and send Senator Mitch McConnell back to the senate year after year.

    by leepearson on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:36:59 PM PDT

  •  for Denise ♥ because i feel like it. (7+ / 0-)

    Tuskegee's airmen faced the best the Luftwaffe had, including the first jet fighters. On March 24, 1945, as the 332nd became one of the first Italy-based fighter unit [sic] to escort all B-17s all the way to Berlin and back, they met 25 German Me 262 jets. In the ensuing combat, three jets fell and the 332nd lost only one P-51. Significantly, the 332nd had completed the full 1,600-mile mission, for which it earned the Distinguished Unit Citation.
    supposedly better planes than ours, but ...
    three of theirs fell, to one of ours.

    plus stuck as if glued -- all the way in/all the way out ...
    as pledged.
    so resolute.

    the cinema loaned the headset i wore to watch.
    i'm ready to wear mine now. it's better.
    i'm ready to experience "Red Tails" all over again.
    at home. i hope i get to soon.

    TRAILHEAD of accountability for Bush-2 Crimes? -- Addington's Perpwalk.

    by greenbird on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:37:46 PM PDT

    •  Part of their record follows: (3+ / 0-)
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      179 bomber escort missions, with a good record of protection, losing bombers on only seven missions and a total of only 27, compared to an average of 46 among other 15AF P-51 groups.

      112 enemy aircraft destroyed in the air, another 150 on the ground and 148 damaged.

      950 rail cars, trucks and other motor vehicles destroyed (over 600 rail cars).

      One destroyer put out of action.

      40 boats and barges destroyed.

      •  * Amazing part of the movie * PLUS: (1+ / 0-)
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        One destroyer put out of action.
        footage.was.real.  from the nose camera.
        some of it ...

        honey badger territory for sure ;)

        can ratio be shown next time ?
        or one of those 'ship as tall as empire state bldg' illustrations, to show firepower ?
        just a mindblower. a prop plane. vs a destroyer.
        (18 cyls in the prop, but still !!)

           Plane vs Destroyer
        etc etc

        TRAILHEAD of accountability for Bush-2 Crimes? -- Addington's Perpwalk.

        by greenbird on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 03:20:15 PM PDT

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        •  Attacking ships is not for the faint of heart (1+ / 0-)
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          I was an F-111 WSO in the USAF in the 80s and 90s. Having participated a number of times in mock combat with US Navy carrier battle groups, I can safely say that attacking ships is not for the faint of heart. And all they were shooting at me was electrons.

          •  seems to me that, conversely, (0+ / 0-)

            the faint of heart were not for Red Tails.

            it's just beyond my comprehension that it was ever brought to an end, Big Boy and Little Boy regardless.

            some folks hunger on and on ... demanding that folks give more and more ... until finally the 'center cannot hold.'

            you will want to watch this directly on youtube and be able to watch it "at home," and to bookmark it, rather than watch it here as an imbed, but here goes: one for the record books, not Red Tails, but as close an heir of sorts ... and some crew, explaining how it felt both to be there, and to have survived. (damn narrator is "theatrical" but tolerable.) * for all my doggie pals.
            Bless The Fallen * All of Them *

            TRAILHEAD of accountability for Bush-2 Crimes? -- Addington's Perpwalk.

            by greenbird on Thu May 01, 2014 at 07:52:29 PM PDT

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  •  UCLA rejects Sterling money (3+ / 0-)
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    UCLA is giving back the first $425,000 of a $3 million gift Donald Sterling had pledged to UCLA to fund kidney research at our medical school.

    But here's the thing.  That's $3 million that will now NOT go to helping with medical research, and there's no evidence that this will be made up by some other donor or donors that they would've have given otherwise through the university's regular fundraising efforts.  And as far as I can tell from the story, it was a gift without any kind of naming rights or anything.  So why not just take the money in order to help save lives, while also condemning him for his views?  If he gets mad and doesn't deliver the rest, at least that's $425,000 for medical research.


    •  That money's got blood on it. (1+ / 0-)
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       It's a good thing. It tells all the other Sterling's your money isn't any good here. If you want absolution or acceptance for your views and policy's shop somewhere else.
        They'll get the 3 million from another source.

      No, it's the coconut oil, got to go, got to go. In today's news, the African country of Somalia has traded places with the U.S. state of Georgia. Said one Georgian resident, "Here we go again. Last time we got free vodka."

      by nellgwen on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:50:49 PM PDT

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    •  I agree. The NAACP should keep his money as well. (3+ / 0-)
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      nellgwen, LinSea, Cadillac64

      A long, long time ago I worked for a non profit animal rights group. The local boy scouts wanted to hold a fundraiser for us, but we had a problem with the boy scouts. Some kind of hunting, skinning, whaling badge or some such.

      We had some long board meetings and discussed this with some national animal rights groups and decided it was fine to accept the money as long as it came with no strings.

      We would take their money as long as we still felt free to protest their less than animal friendly badges.

      The same with pharmaceutical companies who also gave us money. We still protested the testing of animals and used their money to write about it.

      Tracy B Ann - technically that is my signature. If I had Bill Gates money, I'd buy Detroit.

      by ZenTrainer on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 10:31:12 PM PDT

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  •  The death of net neutrality (3+ / 0-)
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    Another disgusting Obama campaign promise reversal. WTF. Just another reason young voters don't trust politicians.

    If we lie to the government, it's a felony...but if they lie to us it's politics.

    by rmb on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 09:46:12 PM PDT

  •  Per Oklahoma: (4+ / 0-)

    Since when has the Slow and Deliberate Government Killing of Its Own Citizens been a good idea?

    [Even FoxNews is disgusted by the spectacle of cruelty in the service of "social revenge" that the State of Oklahoma has given us, today.  But their experience isn't unique when it comes to grotesque brutality against bad people.]

    Does a Civilized Society kill deviant people based on flawed investigations and prejudiced prosecutions, willy-nilly?  I don't think so.

    Let's not kill "colorful cases" of people for the electorate's amusement anymore, what's say?

  •  I loved seeing Teepees... (1+ / 0-)
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    ...on the National Mall.  They have always belonged there.

    "The only thing needed for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing." Hannah Arendt

    by dharmasyd on Tue Apr 29, 2014 at 11:23:57 PM PDT

  •  Timely Cartoon (4+ / 0-)

    I'm not sure what the copyright laws are on reproducing cartoons, so I'll have to only link to where I found this David Fitzsimmons editorial cartoon.

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 12:12:53 AM PDT

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