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Republicans block Senate minimum wage bill
Senate Republicans blocked a bill raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour in a 54 to 42 vote early Wednesday afternoon, with Majority Leader Harry Reid voting no for procedural reasons and Tennessee Republican Sen. Bob Corker voting yes. In other words, all but one Senate Republican voted to keep the federal minimum wage at $7.25 an hour, or $15,080 for a year of full-time work, below the federal poverty threshold for a family of two. In fact, they voted to block a simple majority vote on the issue. And it wasn't a surprise. We all know that this is where Republicans stand on making work pay and building the middle class.

The minimum wage has not gone up since 2009. The minimum wage of just $2.13 an hour for tipped workers has not gone up since 1991. A majority of the workers who would get a raise if the minimum wage was increased to $10.10 are women, and about a quarter of the people getting a raise would be parents. See what the current poverty minimum wage level means for workers below the fold.

The Republican vote just now is shameful. If only they could feel shame.

Originally posted to Daily Kos Labor on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:41 AM PDT.

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  •  Bring back indentured servitude!!! Salvery was (6+ / 0-)

    not so bad!!!!

    Oopsey wrong website !

    "I decided it is better to scream. Silence is the real crime against humanity." Nadezhda Mandelstam

    by LaFeminista on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:44:18 AM PDT

  •  Please beat 'em over the head with this! (14+ / 0-)

    In the '14 elections!

    "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

    by Stude Dude on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:44:18 AM PDT

    •  This was expected ... (1+ / 0-)
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      Stude Dude

      It is a "head beater" vote - and there are opportunities for many more.

      “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire

      by RUNDOWN on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 11:17:09 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Sometimes I have to wonder? (1+ / 0-)
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        Skyye

        How well this this sort of anti-populism goes over even in Safe Red or deeply gerrymandered districts?

        "If this Studebaker had anymore Atomic Space-Age Style, you'd have to be an astronaut with a geiger counter!"

        by Stude Dude on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 11:48:07 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  I'm happy that all of the Democrats (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      Stude Dude

      stuck together on the vote.  I was afraid that some "vulnerable" Dems would not stand up for this, but am happy to see that they did. (Mark Pryor was absent as he has tornado/storm damage to deal with; he was likely a No vote as he has stated that $10.10 is too much to fast, but I'm not going to dwell on it given the circumstances).

      My general thesis is that the Democrats showed the most backbone during the 2005-2009 period, and had the most election success during this time.  This includes the 2006 mid-terms. While I realize it became easy to criticize the Bush administration during that time, I think the Dems would do well to stand tall for what they believe in.  Mark Begich is doing great with this, and I think Mary Landrieu and Kay Hagan are as well.  

      While I haven't followed her day-to-day, I haven't heard whether Allison Grimes is talking about the success of KYnect -- I hope she does!  

      •  On the other hand... (2+ / 0-)
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        terranova108, Stude Dude

        If Republicans had not turned everything into a filibuster and made every cloture essentially the vote for any piece of legislation, then Pryor could vote yes for cloture and no on the regular vote, and preserve his perceived re-election advantage of opposing the minimum wage increase.  I don't think he had a real political advantage to a no vote to increase the minimum wage.

        The other problem is that no one seems to be afraid of being defeated from the left. Instead Republicans are afraid of primary defeats from the right and Democrats are afraid of being defeated by Republicans.  This leaves no reason to quietly allow popular liberal policies to get to a majority vote via unanimous consent (ie no one objects) then vote against the legislation while it passes.  That situation defangs the left because they got what they want, while providing fodder for the right by claiming opposition to the legislation.  

        Republicans have also raised the cloture vote to effectively be the real vote in the eyes of the public by forcing everything through a cloture vote, so I am not sure there is a way to wlk back the importance of cloture votes in the eyes of the far right.

  •  And nobody will punish them for it. (9+ / 0-)

    This is why they act like this: zero fear of consequences.

    And we cannot fix that.

    (Not decoratively and politely)

    Legal means "good".
    [41984 | Feb 4, 2005]

    by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:46:29 AM PDT

    •  My hope is that this (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      xxdr zombiexx, Pinto Pony

      http://www.usatoday.com/...

      Shows the way but nowhere near enough

      "I decided it is better to scream. Silence is the real crime against humanity." Nadezhda Mandelstam

      by LaFeminista on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:57:21 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It is still people trying to deal with the (5+ / 0-)

        GOP bumrush without actually taking the GOP to task for it.

        Trying to work around them,

        Seriously, republicans should all be suffering [REDACTED] cars and [REDACTED, REDACED] daily.

        Voting they don't fear because they are endlessly fucking with it.

        So they need more timely consequences.

        but we can't.

        We have to remain nice.

        WHich is why they can fuck us so regularly.

        Legal means "good".
        [41984 | Feb 4, 2005]

        by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:01:57 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  Indeed. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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          xxdr zombiexx

          "I decided it is better to scream. Silence is the real crime against humanity." Nadezhda Mandelstam

          by LaFeminista on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:05:27 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  As a fighter, just standing there and taking it (4+ / 0-)

            just isn't part of my make-up.

            I remain disgusted with how much shit the GOP manages to get away with and not so much as a a finger is raised - really - to halt them.

            it's like no matter what shit they pull I am supposed to accept it as "legitimate'.

            And it's not.

            It's fuckery committed because people simply take it.

            Legal means "good".
            [41984 | Feb 4, 2005]

            by xxdr zombiexx on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:09:52 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  as I said above... (0+ / 0-)

              They have nothing to fear from the left.  The only real challenges to an incumbent Republican comes from the right, even in a statewide election for Senator. On top of that Democrats rarely are challenged from the left, so they are only afraid of the right during the general election.

              On the Democratic side this is in part due to the misconception of the "swing" voter.  If Democrats worried more about GOTV for their base instead of trying to appeal to mythical centrist independents, they would trend leftward.  If I were conspiracy minded I would wonder if the mythical "swing" voter was a conservative plot to move the country to the right. Conservatives ignore the myth and appeal to their base while Democrats disillusion their base by appealing to the right of their base trying to non-existent swing voters and in the process losing more of their base than they gain from "being centrist".

    •  We can end the filibuster (3+ / 0-)
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      Catkin, falconer520, tb mare

      Which is an anti-democratic institution that is also arguably unconstitutional.  The House abolished the filibuster - why hasn't the Senate?

      •  Yeah 54-42 should pass bills (7+ / 0-)

        The filibuster is bullshit unless they are forced to talk all night and wear diapers.

        "Work for something because it is good, not just because it stands a chance to succeed." -- Vaclav Havel

        by greendem on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:23:08 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  I would reverse it... (0+ / 0-)

          Instead of 60 votes for cloture, it would take 40 votes to continue debate and that is independent of the number of votes cast.  i.e. 1-39 ends debate.  You don't have to talk, but anyone can call for a vote to end debate at anytime that they get the floor and if there are not 40 votes at that time debate is ended.  So, those who want to continue debate have to be present to continue the debate.  Those who want to end debate can have one person present in shifts and wait until the other side does not have 40 votes.

          It puts the onus on the obstructors to actually work to obstruction, not for the majority to have to overcome the obstruction.

  •  There goes the media's midterm victors again! (4+ / 0-)
    •  Looks like Corker is running for President. (2+ / 0-)
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      mmacdDE, Matt Z

      He'll be coy for a while and then he'll be so surprised that anyone ever thought of such a thing, and then he'll preen even more than usual and begin to like the idea and stick one tiny corner of his big toe in the 2016 waters.  The TPers will like him, but his cracker accent isn't going to get him anywhere outside of the Deep South, and even Southerners may not like the sound of "President Corker".

      Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

      by hawkseye on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:57:18 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Republicans must really love poor people. (8+ / 0-)

    They sure seem to make a lot of them...

    We should really ask ourselves why Republican like poor people so much that they want so many more of them.

    Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

    by k9disc on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:49:35 AM PDT

    •  That's why they're pro-life. (2+ / 0-)
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      k9disc, NedSparks

      They want more poor people to bash.

      I've never left a blank space on a ballot... but I will not vote for someone [who vows] to spy on me. I will not do it. - dclawyer06

      Trust, but verify. - Reagan
      Vote, but Occupy. - commonmass

      by Words In Action on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:58:47 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  It's like a vicious circle of success, like all (0+ / 0-)

        their politics.

        It's really fucked up, man. Totally insidious.

        Who would have thought that success through failure could be such a terrific political strategy. It really is a solid methodology for destroying institutions of self governance.

        And nobody could have predicted that Democrats would hop on board the Corporate Express and buy into corporate governance over national sovereignty.

        People, real live human beings, are all but powerless at this point in time. We're just along for the ride... and both sides of our political aisle are cool with that.

        Democracy - 1 person 1 vote. Free Markets - More dollars more power.

        by k9disc on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:52:53 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  Stupid is as stupid does (1+ / 0-)
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    Words In Action

    Because empirical results showing that increasing the minimum wage raises wages across the board should not be considered when it just doesn't accord with what you know in your heart of hard hearts.

  •  The Problem Is That The Media Will Not Punish (9+ / 0-)

    them, but praise them.  Also, their constituents will reward them for this even though their constituents are the same group this would help.  You can lead a horse to the water, but you cannot make them drink.  Blue collar workers care more about voting for someone who will make sure they keep their guns, corporations fat and sassy, keep the minority and women down, to sacrifice their own families who could benefit from democrats control of congress.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 09:51:56 AM PDT

    •  The media won't care that much. (2+ / 0-)
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      NoMoreLies, MPociask

      Instead of paying the min wage they just offer unpaid internships for a couple of years.

      This is why there is no penalty of going bold in your proposals. They could offer 22 dollars an hour or 15 dollars an hour and no matter what the republicans will say no.

      Come on Harry..it's not like this wasn't predictable. Another soft spoken sternly worded speech on the senate floor isn't going to fix this, nor will any "gentlemens" agreement that the republicans violate the first chance they get. Propose 15 dollars an hour and then reform the filibuster to 51 votes and a talking one and we win or make huge gains in the mid terms and hold the senate. People aren't gonna be inspired by..oh man..I tried really hard but those 40 republicans are really just that damned good at getting what they want.

      “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.” George Orwell

      by Tool on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:07:48 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Yep yep yep (2+ / 0-)
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        Stude Dude, Tool

        The filibuster is the problem.  The Senate Democrats refusing to end/alter the filibuster is the next problem.  

        To the extent the media will report this, they will just say "A minimum wage bill failed to pass the Senate today."  MAYBE they will mention "The voting was along party lines."  They will NEVER report "A majority of the United States Senate voted for the bill, but Republicans in the Senate used an arcane rule that allows a minority of Senators to prevent the passage of a bill."  

    •  At least there's accurate reporting (2+ / 0-)
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      MPociask, Matt Z

      I've seen several sites with essentially the same headline as here: GOP Senators block minimum wage increase. That's much better than "Senate turns down. . . ." or "Dems fail to. . . ." It clarifies who's on which side.

      Keep putting it up for a vote, Harry. Make this like the House GOP votes to repeal the ACA -- but far more useful.

  •  In my opinion, this is THE issue... (5+ / 0-)

    that will drive democrats to the polls.

    Democrats should be talking about this as the #1 thing they'll focus on if they can take the House and keep the Senate.  Talk about this and almost nothing but this until the election.  Slap some Obamacare support as frosting on that cake and run with it.

    Talking about Run Forest Run with it.  Not just casual talk.

    •  Not entirely sure about that, but every canvasser (2+ / 0-)
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      NoMoreLies, Stude Dude

      should say,

      "do you think a higher minimum wage is important"

      "do you know all other low and middle income wages are based on the minimum wage, that a higher minimum wage means higher wages for all poor and middle class people?"

      It certainly wouldn't hurt.

      And young people should be given a hard pitch on this. When they complain about being under-served after '08, the discussion should go right back to the minimum wage and this vote.

      I've never left a blank space on a ballot... but I will not vote for someone [who vows] to spy on me. I will not do it. - dclawyer06

      Trust, but verify. - Reagan
      Vote, but Occupy. - commonmass

      by Words In Action on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:02:56 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Oh! And canvassers should also point out (2+ / 0-)
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        NoMoreLies, Stude Dude

        that the LAST time the minimum wage was raised, was '09, when they had the WH, the House and the Senate.

        I've never left a blank space on a ballot... but I will not vote for someone [who vows] to spy on me. I will not do it. - dclawyer06

        Trust, but verify. - Reagan
        Vote, but Occupy. - commonmass

        by Words In Action on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:07:52 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

    •  Net Neutrality, Keystone, Social Security (0+ / 0-)

      are what will drive progressives to the polls. And even those vote-getters may not get young voters to give a shit. A modest raise in the minimum wage isn't anywhere near enough. Also Dems aren't exactly shouting $10.10 from the rooftops. Obama making a couple of speeches, mostly in his weekly address, isn't cutting it either, IMO.

  •  What's the deal with Corker? (2+ / 0-)
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    bananapouch1, Words In Action
  •  America hating republicans (1+ / 0-)
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    bleedingheartliberal218

    why don't they just leave this place?

  •  This must be very upsetting for Paul Ryan... (3+ / 0-)
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    NedSparks, Words In Action, tb mare

    I hear he really cares about the poors nowadays.

  •  How did Angus King vote? (1+ / 0-)
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    Matt Z

    He was supposed to strike a compromise deal with Collins that would stop short of $10.10.

  •  It will be interesting to see to what extent (1+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude

    Fox, Drudge, Brietbart, etc., cover this vote and how they manage to spin it in favor of the Republicans.  I would watch Fox News to find out, but I don't think finding out would be worth the torture.  Democratic candidates should be able to pound their opponents with this, though, especially those running against incumbents.

    "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

    by SueDe on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:05:18 AM PDT

    •  Oh, they will call it a victory and continue (2+ / 0-)
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      MPociask, SueDe

      to rail against the minimum wage. After all, although 52% of Republicans and 69% of Independents support an increase to the minimum wage, that's a battle for hearts and minds they haven't conceded.

      I've never left a blank space on a ballot... but I will not vote for someone [who vows] to spy on me. I will not do it. - dclawyer06

      Trust, but verify. - Reagan
      Vote, but Occupy. - commonmass

      by Words In Action on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:10:11 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  I see they have taken up the banner (0+ / 0-)

        of "job loss," and that this country deserves more good-paying jobs rather than minimum wage jobs - not that they've done one single thing to incentivize, or even encourage, more good-paying jobs.  When the guy working the drive-thru window at my local McDonald's has a master's degree in sociology, something is terribly wrong.

        "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

        by SueDe on Thu May 01, 2014 at 06:13:03 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

  •  This IS one example where D neoliberals (4+ / 0-)

    break with their R brethren. Not enough to end oligarchy, but a meaningful increment nonetheless.

    I've never left a blank space on a ballot... but I will not vote for someone [who vows] to spy on me. I will not do it. - dclawyer06

    Trust, but verify. - Reagan
    Vote, but Occupy. - commonmass

    by Words In Action on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:06:18 AM PDT

  •  Slowly, vote by vote, stunt by stunt (1+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude

    block by block and shutdown by shutdown, the GOP is destroying itself. I firmly believe that. The percentage of morons who will consistently vote against their own self-interest because of "freedumb", "socialism", abortion and "god, guns and gays" is just barely enough to sustain GOP majorities in the house and some states--and then only through gerrymandering, vote suppression and massive infusion of Citizen United-enabled special interest money--but it won't be within a few years, and never will be again--EVER. If the GOP wants to survive, it's going to have to back off this strategy. Unfortunately for it, but fortunately for the rest of the country, it's not. What idiots.

    "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

    by kovie on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:10:16 AM PDT

  •  What is the procedure? (0+ / 0-)

    Why do they need to swap votes?

    •  Not a swap (0+ / 0-)

      Reid needed to vote "no" (once it became clear it would not pass) because only someone who voted against it can move to bring it forward a second time. That's pretty standard Robert's Rules of Order, and normally the leader changes his or her vote at the last minute to preserve his or her options later.

      Corker voted "yes" because he wanted to.

  •  Media Should Emphasize The Majority Support For (1+ / 0-)
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    MPociask

    these bills. I bet if you polled people after reading these stories a good many would think that the majority voted against these bills. In this case they would think that the bill had 54 votes against it. The awareness of the public of GOP obstruction is not what it should be and I think the media has to make sure that the stories are clearly written to explain that it was defeated 42-54.

  •  But, but "better Democrats" only!!!! n/t (0+ / 0-)

    "Stay close to the candles....the staircase can be treacherous" (-8.38,-8.51)

    by JNEREBEL on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:14:00 AM PDT

  •  I'm not against raising MW, but.... (1+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude

    aren't we just addressing a symptom of globalism? Had we not lost 5.5 million, prevailing wage, manufacturing jobs, with benefits during the first decade of the 21st century, would we even be talking about MW?
    Globalism, corporate profit offshoring, job outsourcing, and our trade deficits/trade policies are what this Congress should be addressing. Fix these and we won't have to entertain the idea of raising minimum wage to prevailing wage.
    For once, can't this country do something smart?

    •  While it's pie in the sky, (0+ / 0-)

      it sure would be nice if our country could jump out in front of an issue for once. Decoupling living from working would be one way to acknowledge that, going forward, there are going to be ever more people for ever fewer jobs. Rather than making folks fight over the scraps of a manufacturing economy, a forward-looking country would give everyone a guaranteed basic income, then incentivize people who want to work.  

      Instead, we'll continue specializing in 1/10-measures like raising the minimum wage to a level still below what it was fifty years ago. And then we'll be angry- but do nothing about it- when even those minimal, yet vitally important, measures are shot down by a minority of those in elected government.

  •  Minority rule sucks. nt (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Leo Flinnwood
  •  Economist Andrew Card (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Leo Flinnwood

    "I've subsequently stayed away from the minimum wage literature for a
    number of reasons. First, it cost me a lot of friends. People that I had
    known for many years, for instance, some of the ones I met at my first
    job at the University of Chicago, became very angry or disappointed.
    They thought that in publishing our work we were being traitors to the
    cause of economics as a whole."

    What did Mr. Card say to bring this on ?

    Economist Andrew Card: "Raising the minimum wage would have a minor impact on employment."

    Here's an interview where he says it, re posted here at Economist's View in 2006:

    http://economistsview.typepad.com/...

    You Don't Happen To Make It. You Make It Happen !

    by jeffrey789 on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 10:23:17 AM PDT

  •  Republican Sen.Collins voted against an increase. (3+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude, DiesIrae, kerflooey

    her Democratic opponent Shenna Bellows  had this to say.

    “I know what it's like to grow up in poverty, struggling to break into the middle class,” said Bellows. “In the minimum wage debate, the guiding principle should be that mothers and fathers who work 2 or 3 jobs should not be living in poverty. The guiding principle should not be: What will out-of-touch Republican politicians, many of whom are millionaires, agree to in order to keep their corporate funders happy.

    “Instead of fighting to give American workers a $10.10 living wage, Senator Collins is joining with corporate interests and national Republicans to water down the bare minimum that workers need to stay out of poverty. She is fighting to reduce wages for thousands of Mainers and millions of Americans. If I were in the Senate, I'd be leading the fight to rally the public and get out-of-touch Republican politicians to do the will of the people on this issue.”  Shenna Bellows (D-ME)

    One of her many endorsements had this to say about Shenna-
    “Congress today is made up of millionaires who are far removed from the lives of ordinary, working-class Americans. Shenna grew up working-class, the daughter of a carpenter. She understands the value of hard work and what it takes to get ahead. We need people like her – who understand the needs of working families – to fight for us in Congress.”

    Tim Doughty, President of the American Postal Workers Union Local 458

    •  Technically (0+ / 0-)

      she voted to continue debating the issue.  She will likely follow that up with some breathtakingly disingenuous and very heavily publicized 'compromise negotiations.'  This will then be billed as taking the lead to raise the minimum wage for Mainers, even though the minimum wage will not have been raised due to 'Democratic intransigence.'  

      Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

      by benamery21 on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 01:02:11 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Helps Boost Income Levels In Many Ways (1+ / 0-)
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    Stude Dude

    For the salaried worker who does lots of unpaid overtime, when they say, "I could be making the same working at Mcdonald's", their negotiating hand has improved with their employer.

  •  Thanks GOPers... (1+ / 0-)
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    skillet

    Now , will the Democrats use this GOPer FU to working people to get out the vote?

  •  Corker or.....'The GOP weren't monolithic in their (0+ / 0-)

    disdain for the working poor.'

    See...one of us has a heart.

  •  Repeal the bleeping filibuster BEFORE Nov.As bills (0+ / 0-)

    pass the senate and fail in the House it will show the evil of House GOP more clearly.

  •  $174,000.00/Yr. Rethug Congresspeople Can't Feel (0+ / 0-)

    the pain of a $7.25/Hr ($14,500.00/Yr.) Minimum Wage worker because they have dysfunctional temporoparietal junctions incapable of feeling empathy or even sympathy.

    The lobbyists for minimum wage workers just can't pay the bribes to and buy the influence being peddled by rethug politicians because those lobbyists are non-existent.

    ("Money Talks, Bullshit Walks!" -- former Pennsylvania Congressman and Abscam convict Michael "Ozzie" Myers)

  •  Send it through one more time... (0+ / 0-)

    then screw the filibuster.

    50 states, 210 media market, 435 Congressional Districts, 3080 counties, 192,480 precincts

    by TarheelDem on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 11:32:01 AM PDT

  •  Thank Harry Reid for this. Keep that filibuster!! (0+ / 0-)

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell

    by accumbens on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 11:33:59 AM PDT

  •  Blocking a bill is arrogant and stupid (0+ / 0-)

    By all means, vote no if you want to. But don't block a bill just for the sake of being contrary. It's subversive to a functioning republic.

    "We need institutions and cultural norms that make us better than we tend to be. It seems to me that the greatest challenge we now face is to build them." -Sam Harris, neuroscientist

    by MarthaPeregrine on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 11:50:15 AM PDT

  •  $7.25 an hour, or $15,080 for a year of full-time (0+ / 0-)

    work means no time off: no sick days, no personal time, no family leave or vacation time. Ugly.

  •  why does a 54 Yes / 42 No vote fail? (0+ / 0-)

    This make no sense and needs to be changed.

    There are too many of these stories.

    •  It was a vote to bring the bill to the floor for (0+ / 0-)

      a vote, which requires 60 to end debate and thus break a filibuster or a hold placed by any senator. It's a bad system, but historically it's meant that both sides had to come together and truly negotiate to pass things and it lead to actual legislation and less partisan hatred.. However, Republicans aren't willing to negotiate now, so it doesn't really do much aside from enable them.

      Also, what the hell is this?

      with Majority Leader Harry Reid voting no for procedural reasons
      What Procedural reasons?
      •  You can't bring a motion (0+ / 0-)

        for reconsideration if you were on the losing side of the original vote.  The Majority Leader does this on almost every vote where he knows he doesn't have the votes.

        Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

        by benamery21 on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 01:06:41 PM PDT

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  •  NYT noted only one Repub. voted against filibuster (0+ / 0-)

    and then had this one sentence paragraph:
    "Democrats were mostly united behind the bill."

    WTF?  Mostly united?  What is "unanimous" and "every democrat voted against the filibuster, and for the bill" ?  Just factually wrong.

    Crappy maneuvering, and the GOP senators get a pass, and the Dems. are portrayed as weak, not united.

     grrr...

    I'm part of the "bedwetting bunch of website Democrat base people (DKos)." - Rush Limbaugh, 10/16/2012 Torture is Wrong! We live near W so you don't have to. Send love.

    by tom 47 on Wed Apr 30, 2014 at 01:24:01 PM PDT

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