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Speaker John Boehner, Rep. Paul Ryan, Rep. Jeb Hensarling, Rep. Eric Cantor and Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)
They still got nothin'.
A detailed review of individual House Republicans' web sites shows just how flummoxed Republicans are by Obamacare. They have to say they hate it and it has to be repealed, but a good number of them are forced by the political reality of their districts to say that there's some good stuff there, too, that they insist must be maintained. Hence "repeal and replace." But the "replace" bit is still messing them up.
Bar chart showing House Republican mentions of Obamacare
While the graph shows a vast majority of House GOP members proclaiming their commitment to either repealing Obamacare or repealing and replacing it, the full picture is more complicated. A number of lawmakers in the "repeal and replace" camp also embrace some of Obamacare's most popular provisions. […]

All told, 31 Republican House members express some support for an element of the Affordable Care Act. In each case, they say they favor covering people with pre-existing conditions. Ten websites also include a line supporting policies requiring insurers to allow parents to keep kids on their health care plans until age 26. In addition, two lawmakers express support for Medicaid coverage.

So 31 actually try to come up with some kind of replacement plan that includes the popular provisions of Obamacare, out of the 128 who talk about "repeal and replace." Those replacement plans all include the Obamacare stuff that even Republicans say has to be maintained—specifically coverage for people with pre-existing conditions.

And that is the nut of their problem in trying to come up with a not-totally-bogus plan. There isn't any other effective way to do this and keep the private insurance system than how Obamacare did it. If you're going to cover the sick, expensive people, you have to have everyone signed up to help pay for them. To have everyone signed up, you have to have some kind of mandate that people buy insurance. Or the whole thing collapses. The only real alternative, and it's a very good one, is single payer.

And that's where the Republican flail comes in. They've painted themselves into a corner, or at least the 31 who want to pretend that they're serious lawmakers and care about their constituents have. And they made a losing bet when they went all in on repeal.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu May 01, 2014 at 10:29 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (18+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Thu May 01, 2014 at 10:29:15 AM PDT

  •  The "Replace" Part (8+ / 0-)

    is actually a blank piece of paper.

    Don't get sick.  If you do get sick, die quickly"

    What Alan Grayson said should be on every Democratic Campaign this year.

  •  Cynical jerks. (3+ / 0-)
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    commonmass, Hohenzollern, cocinero

    I'm willing to bet many of these House Reps knew the reality of the situation LONG before it became unimpeachably evident, but kept up the strident refrain of "REPEAL!" and then later "REPEAL, REPLACE!" for no other reason than political acquisitiveness.

    At this point it's moot - they KNOW they can't win on this issue - but I really think there was much older knowledge of that than this.

    Any politician has some degree of tall tale spinner in 'em, but these people (term used loosely) give it a bad name.

    Not all people are human; not all humans are people.

    by Jon Sitzman on Thu May 01, 2014 at 11:32:23 AM PDT

  •  It Takes A Culture To (3+ / 0-)
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    commonmass, Hohenzollern, Pluto

    raise a compulsive liar and they have gerrymandered a culture.

  •  Ya' gotta hand it to 'em... (2+ / 0-)
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    cocinero, Hohenzollern

    Once the cretins decide to hold hands and jump off the cliff, they keep their word.

    Ever ponder what the political landscape would look like, were the GOP not available as a haven for the dull-normal and certified head-cases?

  •  So far, the GOP has done a very good job (3+ / 0-)
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    cocinero, Hohenzollern, Shawn87

    framing Obamacare as something "dangerous" but what they have not been successful with is getting people to be dissatisfied with the parts of the law that have begun to effect them personally. When you ask people about individual provisions, people like it.

    Even the governor of Florida was unable to find anyone who didn't like the law just fine on his fishing expedition the other day. Of course he was talking to a retirement community, and I'll be willing to bet most of them were from New England. However, these folks enjoy Medicare and apparently their Medicare is just fine.

    So the problem as I see it for the GOP that the more people who get covered, the harder their sell will be.

    They're horrible with long-term strategy, and right now they are so focused on doing damage to the President and the Democrats they have backed themselves up against a wall. It will only be a matter of time before even their most true believer constituents get fed up with their own party.


    by commonmass on Thu May 01, 2014 at 11:42:26 AM PDT

  •  I thought their new talking points (0+ / 0-)

    ,,,changed "Repeal and Replace" to "Repeal and Reform."

    Not that that makes any sense in practice.

    Clearly they are dancing as fast as they can to evolve their position into something coherent for 2014 mid-terms.

    It appears that they are all in on this issue, because they dumping loads of money into kicking up more rabid hate in the perverted states against the ACA.

    I suppose that is their best bet -- and in those states, they don't really have to make any logical or procedural sense.

    I, personally, think they should exhume Orly and revisit the birth certificate issue. If only for my own amusement.

  •  As usual the simple message wins (4+ / 0-)
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    Pluto, cocinero, Hohenzollern, slang729

    Regardless of the merits "Repeal and Replace" is simple.

    So how do you message the more complicated message that the GOP has no replace?

    I don't know.

    "I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn to sell"

    "How about a Repeal and Replace health care plan...first you give me the Repeal and I will get back to you on the replace."


    "My father left me a million dollars worth of "Replace" here in Nigeria.  If you wire me a "Repeal" I send you the "Replace"".

    I told you I don't know.

    The highest form of spiritual practice is self observation with compassion.

    by NCJim on Thu May 01, 2014 at 11:45:55 AM PDT

  •  1968: Nixon got elected on a "secret plan" to end (1+ / 0-)
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    the war in Vietnam, and the American public swallowed the lie. His plan was to bomb the hell out of North Vietnam and expand the war into Cambodia.  His plan also led to more soldiers dying in Vietnam in his presidency than in LBJ's presidency.

    Don't overestimate the American's public's ability to realize that some politician is selling them a bill of goods in the form of not having spelled out the details.

  •  But Obamacare is UNCONSTITUTIONAL! (3+ / 0-)
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    hbk, raspberryberet, slang729

    Never mind that the Supreme Court ruled otherwise.

    ...the most important reason for pursuing repeal is that it is blatantly unconstitutional.
    (from Steve King's web site).

    And King lists the same old alternatives:

    Allow people to buy insurance across state lines (a race to the bottom of the states with the most lax regulation)

    Medical malpractice liability reform. (Amputated the wrong leg? That's just too bad.)

    Health savings accounts and tax exemptions for individuals purchasing their own health insurance. (Tax breaks for the wealthy)

  •  Democrats must demand answers (1+ / 0-)
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    What does the GOP want to replace the ACA with?

    1. Vouchers? - covering only part of a person's yearly health care cost.
    2. Free Market - tried it.  Over 30 million can't afford any insurance and the states are going broke paying for emergency room care.
    3. Don't get sick plan?

    The GOP has to be challenged to put it in writing!

  •  Move the 'bad site' bar to the left, and the Rs (0+ / 0-)

    are graphically flipping off America!

  •  What they really object to (0+ / 0-)

    Are the subsidies and expanded Medicaid, which is a really big subsidy to them.  But nowhere near the corporate subsidies, (even excluding what taxpayers pay for their underpaid employees)

  •  If only the republicans could come up... (0+ / 0-)

    with everything that the Obamacare offers but with a different name, I don't know, something like "Affordable Care Act."

    They wanted to hang this around President Obama's neck and called it Obamacare. It is proving difficult for the republicans to untangle the two. Enjoy that bed you made fellas.

    To the world you are one person. To one person, you are the world. They can have John Galt, I'll take Joe Hill..

    by p a roberson on Fri May 02, 2014 at 03:42:33 AM PDT

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