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So I've heard people say you shouldn't legitimate the opposing position by debating it. Don't debate global warming. Don't debate evolution. It legitimizes them. More harm than good can come if you get into an un-winnable (this is not a word according to my spell check) debate. People will just get turned off and tune out.

Eff that. Eff the whole got dang dealio of it. That way's not working. And maybe I'm just too macho alpha male trogladyte that somehow lucked into my PhD by haphazardly throwing typewriters against the wall, but I like strong stands. I like demonstrative positions. Strong displays and assertions of confidence. And you know what?

So do most people.

When you act sure of yourself and don't back down you win people to your cause.  Bill Maher once remarked on this about George Bush. Think as low as you want about him, when he said to hell with the Constitution, he meant it. When he wanted to lie about WMDs, he went balls to the wall. And he got people to go along with him, which blows my mind. But he didn't act polite or waver about what he wanted and what he was going to do. He said to hell with you all. Now watch me hit this golf ball.

What an arrogant ass. And sometimes you have to have a little bit of that.

Lesson of the day.

Liberals. Act a little more like this:

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  •  Tip Jar (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, sajiocity, BlackSheep1

    by DAISHI on Fri May 09, 2014 at 05:52:23 PM PDT

  •  I'd prefer Commando Cody... (0+ / 0-)

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Fri May 09, 2014 at 05:58:40 PM PDT

  •  Rather be more like... (3+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, tuesdayschilde, Risen Tree

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  •  For Many of Us It's About the Proper Way to Fight (6+ / 0-)

    My personal take is that nobody argues about how brain surgery should be done, or says that a little league ref off the playing field up in the stands made the correct call in a ball game, so the game has to go forward using his call, and furthermore the league needs to replace its refs with little league refs.

    That's what debating climate change with conservatives amounts to.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't fight but we should fight rationally.

    And that means not debating the data and interpretation of a technical field with utterly incompetent clergy, journalists, politicians or even trained science teachers.

    Climate science is a specialty of extreme expertise that none of us is competent to practice or to either attack or defend.

    The role of the citizen including commentators and political & economic leaders is not to dispute the findings of expertise that they cannot possibly practice, but only to decide what to do about them. The single most important point of education is to recognize the limits of everyone's own level of information, and where and how to find the best information when difficult problems arise.

    The science tells us that the professional scientists are virtually unanimous, and their professional societies are unanimous, about the fact of the phenomenon.

    THAT is the debate progressives should have. The propriety of the rightwing for claiming to overrule highly trained professional experts on thoroughly tested findings supported by the global community of expertise.

    Because a fundamental if unstated premise of conservatism is that conservative, including business expertise, is ALWAYS the most important factor in all questions.

    That is one of the single most important themes and premises we need to destroy. Arguing the details with them is ceding their point that their philosophy is credentials for every question.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Fri May 09, 2014 at 06:17:05 PM PDT

  •  I do agree: You have to have some serious (2+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, Risen Tree

    attitude if you are right, and it will pay off in convincing the undecided about the cause.  If you are lying and are caught, then all credibility by critically thinking individuals, even if you do not repeat another lie, is lost for good.

    “My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there." - Rumi

    by LamontCranston on Fri May 09, 2014 at 06:59:51 PM PDT

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