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Kim and Felicity Robinson, plaintiffs in Arkansas marriage equality case.
Well of course they'll appeal.
The state's top lawyer will ask the Arkansas Supreme Court to review a lower court's decision to overturn a 2004 constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.

Attorney General Dustin McDaniel announced his intent to appeal to the high court late Saturday night, but not before 15 licenses were issued for same-sex couples in northwest Arkansas' Carroll County, heralding the arrival of gay marriage in the Bible Belt.

Yet another state, yet another defeat for people who can't muster any decent rationale against marriage equality other than "because it would make me sad," yet another appeal. Repeat as needed. Add political posturing if necessary, though a good healthy dose of keeping your mouth shut might be a refreshing change of pace.
[T]hough both Sen. Mark Pryor (D) and Rep. Tom Cotton (R) oppose allowing same-sex couples to marry, neither Senate contender has made a public statement about the decision.
Marriage equality is coming. The only question remaining is how long it will take, and how many people will make fools of themselves before we get there.

Originally posted to Hunter on Mon May 12, 2014 at 09:24 AM PDT.

Also republished by Kossacks for Marriage Equality and Daily Kos.

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  •  This morning, (12+ / 0-)

    the clerk's office in Pulaski County is open and issuing marriage licenses. Plenty of joyful people in the capital city this morning. Fine pix at that link!

    "Let each unique song be sung and the spell of differentiation be broken" - Winter Rabbit

    by cotterperson on Mon May 12, 2014 at 09:43:16 AM PDT

  •  I suspect plenty of people will continue making (7+ / 0-)

    fools out of themselves fighting marriage equality, ENDA, and all other legislation and court decisions bringing equal rights to the LGBT community.

    Someday, the children and grandchildren of these people will ask their fathers and grandfathers "why were you such an asshole and a bigot?"


    by commonmass on Mon May 12, 2014 at 09:50:31 AM PDT

    •  Im sure some of their kids ask that ? now (3+ / 0-)
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      Probably not to their folks' mouthbreathing pudding faces.

    •  Genetic Scientists today announced.... (0+ / 0-)

      that they have mapped nearly 98% of the human genome.

      The remaining sequences however have defied mapping and researchers said their findings indicate most of the remainder is located in deep rural hollows, and the legislatures of Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana and Georgia.

      Said one scientist,"these folks totally deny any belief in science and science seems incapable of determining what makes them tick.  Actually," he concluded, "it might be ticks."

      Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

      by dweb8231 on Mon May 12, 2014 at 11:07:25 AM PDT

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  •  Here's a bit more (6+ / 0-)

    about the appeal and possible rulings today. IANAL, but there's much more at the link. (The writer, Max Brantley, has decades of journalism experience in Arkansas and is married to a retired judge.)

    The docket now reflects both Attorney General Dustin McDaniel's notice of appeal in the case and a motion for the judge to stay his order pending the appeal. It notes courts in other states that have made similar rulings have stayed judgments.

    He's also filed this 'emergency' stay request with the Supreme Court. [link in the original] The argument for a stay is the confusion of differing interpretations among counties (encouraged by advice from marriage opponent lawyers among  the lawyers brought together in Saturday's county officials meeting.)  Opponents of the ruling also claimed there's a problem because, though Piazza made it clear he wants to end marriage discrimination, his ruling didn't mention a number of other routine marriage statutes that define marriage as being between a man and woman, such as the statute on procedures in covenant marriages.

    Piazza's office said he would not rule until he had a response from plaintiffs' [six counties] attorneys and that might not arrive until the afternoon. He could rule this afternoon. Or not. McDaniel also lodged a partial record with the Supreme Court in hopes of winning a stay there. Wagoner, the plaintiffs' attorney, was preparing to respond in both courts but said he didn't think it was proper for the state to seek an "end run" around the trial court's ruling and, under normal procedures, the Supreme Court wouldn't enter a stay until there was a final order in the case.

    "Let each unique song be sung and the spell of differentiation be broken" - Winter Rabbit

    by cotterperson on Mon May 12, 2014 at 10:15:04 AM PDT

  •  Washington County is issuing licenses - (9+ / 0-)

    2 Dem JPs are hanging around the Courthouse to "oblige" - and I'd be there too except I'm the only one in the office right now and can't - dammit.

  •  Once again, progressives drag (4+ / 0-)

    states one by one into the modern era, kicking and screaming notwithstanding.

    Eventually, and sooner than they think, they will look back on the days of opposition to Marriage Equality just as we look back on segregation now, as silly, foolish, discriminatory and backwards.

    Looking forward to the day.

    Your kids are more than a test score, and so are their teachers.

    by gtnoah on Mon May 12, 2014 at 10:35:26 AM PDT

  •  Some people just can't let go of all of their hate (6+ / 0-)

    and accept that society has (largely) moved on in terms of LGBT equality.  The staunch defenders of anti-marriage equality and taxpayer monies are not defending either.

  •  Let justice roll on like a river (6+ / 0-)

    and righteousness as an ever-flowing stream!  

    So happy to see this is happening.  Great images with which to start the week.  I especially loved the picture of the African-American judge, who is also a Baptist minister, presiding at a same-sex wedding.  

  •  Dear Arkansas (3+ / 0-)
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    Please stop wasting time and money on this ,
    don't spend any time / effort / money trying to go backwards .

    "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

    by indycam on Mon May 12, 2014 at 10:47:38 AM PDT

  •  These are the victories we're allowed to have... (1+ / 0-)
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    commonmass the oligarchy.

    While I celebrate this victory, I can't help also feeling that we're being played a bit, too.

    When we start winning victories in the economic realm - that's when I'll start smiling.

    When the Employee Free Choice Act is passed and signed, that's when I'll start smiling.

    When we as a nation start caring comprehensively for the most powerless and vulnerable, I'll start smiling.

    When our ghettos become places where no one lives any more, but that everyone claims some ancestry in, I'll know we've made progress.

    When our economic policies are oriented toward creating an economy where everyone can make a living wage - an economy where everyone who labors makes enough not to qualify for government assistance, I'll start smiling.

    When our government begins taking vigorous action to massively reform the parts of our legal system that are aimed at disenfranchising people of color - then it will be time to smile.

    So again - I celebrate this victory for civil rights, but we have much work to do.

    The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. -Bertrand Russell

    by mftalbot on Mon May 12, 2014 at 10:51:40 AM PDT

    •  I agree, we have a lot of work to do, but (5+ / 0-)

      the fact that we have a lot of work to do does not diminish ANY victory for civil rights for ANYONE.


      by commonmass on Mon May 12, 2014 at 10:53:05 AM PDT

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    •  Please.... (0+ / 0-)

      You're using the exact same argument that right-wingers have used for years - LGBT rights are a waste of time, and we are doing something useless by discussing them and not dealing with jobs, the economy. I'm tired of hearing this BS. It seems that nothing would satisfy you that would stop short of solving all of our problems (the EFCA is dead for years at least). When Obamacare passed, were you angry that Congress didn't also deliver cap-and-trade, immigration reform, and an end to low wages?

  •  Noon tomorrow. (1+ / 0-)
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    The Arkansas Supreme Court has responded to Attorney General Dustin McDaniel's request of Judge Chris Piazza's ruling overturning the same-sex marriage ban by giving plaintiffs [six counties] until noon Tuesday to respond.

    From my local paper, good news from very rural Marion County:
    Marion County Clerk Dee Carleton said her office had issued one marriage license to a gay couple by late Monday morning. The clerk's office said two men from Yellville received the license.
    Bad news from Eureka Springs.
    Update, 12:01 p.m. Carroll County stops issuing same-sex marriage licenses

    After 15 gay couples received marriage licenses in Eureka Springs during the weekend in Carroll County, the local clerk's office says it will now just issue licenses that include a man and a woman.

    Carroll County clerks offices in Berryville and Eureka Springs said Monday they were no longer granting marriage licenses to same-sex couples. Deputy clerks in both locations referred questions to County Clerk Jamie Correia. She couldn't be reached for comment.

    "Let each unique song be sung and the spell of differentiation be broken" - Winter Rabbit

    by cotterperson on Mon May 12, 2014 at 11:02:22 AM PDT

  •  This isn't going to help Pryor (0+ / 0-)

    I know Pryor is on record as opposing same sex marriage (yet he has unmitigated support from DKos), but that won't matter in the general election.  This will rile up the rightwing voters much more than it will energize dems and liberals to go to the polls.  Turnout is everything in these midterm elections, and this can only hurt Pryor in turning out more GOP voters.

    Keep in mind,...this is a LEGAL victory, not a public opinion victory in Arkansas.  The amendment passed comfortably, which means a majority of voters supported it.  This wasn't the case of a GOP legislature and Governor ramming this through in a purple state.  Looking at this from a purely political position, the last thing Pryor needs is a social issue to get more GOP voters to the polls.  it couldn't have come at a worse time for Dem hopes of keeping control of the Senate.

    •  My vote for Pryor (2+ / 0-)
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      is definitely mitigated by his opponent. I, for one, swore I wouldn't vote for Pryor because of his support of Bush's immoral, illegal invasion of Iraq -- and so much more that followed. However, his opponent is so ghastly, I'll just have to hold my nose and do it again.

      That's the absolute limit of my "support" for Mark Pryor.

      "Let each unique song be sung and the spell of differentiation be broken" - Winter Rabbit

      by cotterperson on Mon May 12, 2014 at 11:11:39 AM PDT

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    •  Has there been any recent polling... (0+ / 0-)

      ...on the subject in Arkansas?  Because absent some polling to pack up your contention that the public supports the ban, I'd say you're full of it.

      Specifically, your claim that a vote ten years ago proves where the public stands on the issue today -- because the fact of the matter is that public opinion has shifted dramatically in the intervening decade.

      Does that mean that the public in Arkansas now supports marriage equality?  Perhaps not...but it does mean that the margin of support is probably much closer than it was ten years ago.

      If Democrats proclaim the the Earth is round and Republicans insist it is flat, we will shortly see a column in the Washington Post claiming the the earth is really a semi-circle.

      by TexasTom on Mon May 12, 2014 at 06:42:33 PM PDT

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  •  Whom will they hate next to hate next? (3+ / 0-)
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    cotterperson, commonmass, naraht

    Once homophobia recedes as an acceptable form of hatred (much like racism, which is still alive and well but not  socially acceptable in its most blunt forms), what will the right wing nutosphere select as its next hate target?

  •  When was the last time Marriage Equality lost? (2+ / 0-)
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    cotterperson, commonmass

    Not counting Stays (Utah, Oklahoma, Michigan, etc.) as losses, when was the last time that Marriage Equality actually lost in Court, at the ballot box or in a state legislature?

    North Carolina's Amendment 1 back in May 2012???

    I'm counting Indiana as a win, even though it could still go to the Ballot box in 2016.

  •  there's plenty of money (3+ / 0-)

    There's always plenty of money for the priorities of the people in power. Somehow the money will be found to pay for fighting marriage equality. It would be a better use of the funds if they were actually spent on supporting families. If only that went without saying.

  •  Taxpayers get to foot the bill (0+ / 0-)

    I wonder why these matters of deep principle among conservatives are never brought up when they're railing about government waste? Pursuing a fruitless (npi) appeal isn't going to be done for free. While Republicans want to flyspeck every penny of the SNAP program, they want to spend top dollar trying to legally enforce their unconstitutional bigotry.

    Someone should make a campaign issue out of this waste of money by those careful stewards of the public coffers, no?

  •  The problem with appealing it is... (0+ / 0-)

    Appeal it on what grounds? They hate gays? After the legal definition of marriage was destroyed, there are no more legal grounds for not allowing gay people to marry. Or do anything else for that matter.

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