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The accelerating rate of climate change poses a severe risk to national security and acts as a catalyst for global political conflict, a report published Tuesday by a leading government-funded military research organization concluded.

The Center for Naval Analyses Military Advisory Board found that climate change-induced drought in the Middle East and Africa is leading to conflicts over food and water and escalating longstanding regional and ethnic tensions into violent clashes. The report also found that rising sea levels are putting people and food supplies in vulnerable coastal regions like eastern India, Bangladesh and the Mekong Delta in Vietnam at risk and could lead to a new wave of refugees.

In addition, the report predicted that an increase in catastrophic weather events around the world will create more demand for American troops, even as flooding and extreme weather events at home could damage naval ports and military bases.

The warnings accumulate. Just this March, the Pentagon released its Quadrennial Defense Review (pdf):
The impacts of climate change may increase the frequency, scale, and complexity of future missions, including defense support to civil authorities, while at the same time undermining the capacity of our domestic installations to support training activities. Our actions to increase energy and water security, including investments in energy efficiency, new technologies, and renewable energy sources, will increase the resiliency of our installations and help mitigate these effects.
More over the fold.

And more than a year ago, the Boston Globe reported:

America’s top military officer in charge of monitoring hostile actions by North Korea, escalating tensions between China and Japan, and a spike in computer attacks traced to China provides an unexpected answer when asked what is the biggest long-term security threat in the Pacific region: climate change.

Navy Admiral Samuel J. Locklear III, in an interview at a Cambridge hotel Friday after he met with scholars at Harvard and Tufts universities, said significant upheaval related to the warming planet "is probably the most likely thing that is going to happen . . . that will cripple the security environment, probably more likely than the other scenarios we all often talk about."

It's as basic as food and water.

Last December, the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research warned:

Climate change due to unabated greenhouse-gas emissions within our century is likely to put 40 percent more people at risk of absolute water scarcity than would be without climate change, a new study shows by using an unprecedented number of impact models.
While also in March of this year, the inherently cautious Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change wrote (pdf):
All aspects of food security are potentially affected by climate change, including food access, utilization, and price stability (high confidence). Redistribution of marine fisheries catch potential towards higher latitudes poses risk of reduced supplies, income, and employment in tropical countries, with potential implications for food security (medium confidence). Global temperature increases of ~4°C or more above late-20th-century levels, combined with increasing food demand, would pose large risks to food security globally and regionally (high confidence). Risks to food security are generally greater in low-latitude areas.
And in April, a joint Australian and American study found:
Escalating carbon dioxide emissions will cause fish to lose their fear of predators, potentially damaging the entire marine food chain, joint Australian and US research has found.

A study by the Australian Institute of Marine Science, James Cook University and the Georgia Institute of Technology found the behavior of fish would be “seriously affected” by greater exposure to CO2.

No one can say that the world's political and economic leaders haven't been warned. The only question is whether they will do anything about it.

Originally posted to Laurence Lewis on Wed May 14, 2014 at 06:01 AM PDT.

Also republished by Climate Hawks and Daily Kos.

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  •  We have a "flood" of such reports today, (so to (25+ / 0-)

    speak.) Let's hope the general public is finally ready to warm up to these issues. The magnitude of the efforts we must take to cut back on the burning of fossil fuels is going to requires unprecedented collective action.

    Thanks Lawrence.  

    Humor Alert! No statement from this UID is intended to be true, including this one. Comments and Posts intended for recreational purposes only. Unauthorized interpretations may lead to unexpected results. This waiver void where prohibited.

    by HoundDog on Wed May 14, 2014 at 06:06:09 AM PDT

    •  Sorry HoundDog...we still have to deal with this: (23+ / 0-)
      "For anyone to say that any type of global warming is anywhere close to the threat that we have with crazy people running around with nuclear weapons, it shows how desperate they are to get the public to buy this."
      Those words of a true climate expert come from the lizard regions of the brain of a U.S. Senator:
      Oklahoma Sen. James M. Inhofe, the Senate Armed Services Committee's ranking Republican and a vocal skeptic of the established science that greenhouse gas emissions contribute to global warming, scoffed at the idea that climate change is linked to national security threats.
      I despair.  We are ruled by idiots, by cretins, fundamentalists, crackpots, and loons.

      My ever reliable standard for calling BS, Charlie Pierce at Esquire calls out former Bush Jr. speech writer Michael Gerson for his amazing op ed in the WaPo decrying the scientific illiteracy of the American Public while never ever mentioning the GOP as having any responsibility for that fact:

      GERSON: These intuitions can be shaped by a variety of factors: ideology, religion, philosophy or culture. Resistance to vaccination or GMOs is sometimes rooted in a nearly religious belief that natural things are better - including, apparently, disease outbreaks and plants that die easily in droughts. ... Resistance in the United States to evolution is often associated with conservative religion. And skepticism about climate change is correlated with libertarian and free-market beliefs.

      PIERCE:  It's a damn good thing that one of our two major political parties -- and the corporate interests that bankroll it, and the media superstructure that supports it -- hasn't involved itself in this dangerous hooey for political and financial gain, because I'm sure Michael Gerson would have nothing to do with any operation that would engage in such foolishness.

      Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

      by dweb8231 on Wed May 14, 2014 at 07:11:25 AM PDT

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      •  Well this is indeed sad to hear dweb8231. But what (2+ / 0-)
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        can we do but keep trying our best and moving forward with our best objective efforts.

        We need to get these military officers to go on tour.

        I thin they will be more impressive to most people than this Sen Inhofe, who I believe may already have a reputation for not being one of the brightest bulbs in the circuit.

        I may be wrong, I should check that first before saying anything definitive, but darn, this is disappointing coming from the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

        Something we should remind people of when it comes to voting time. He is lined up to be the Committee Chair if, heaven forbid, the GOP should gain control of the Senate in November.

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        by HoundDog on Wed May 14, 2014 at 11:54:23 AM PDT

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        •  Becoming chair of a congressional committee... (0+ / 0-)

          Can be achieved by nothing more than outlasting your colleagues and in OK that is not difficult for dimwits like Jim-Bob

          Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.

          by dweb8231 on Wed May 14, 2014 at 12:51:16 PM PDT

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      •  In 2004, the Pentagon warned Bush: (1+ / 0-)
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        The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents.

        'Disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life,' concludes the Pentagon analysis. 'Once again, warfare would define human life.'

        In other words, climate change increases the chances of nuclear war.

        © cai Visit 350.org to join the fight against global warming.

        by cai on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:16:20 PM PDT

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        •  There is more of a nuclear threat (2+ / 0-)
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          from nuclear power plants located along coasts at sea level so they could use the oceans for cooling. Once those sink beneath the waves they become really hard to maintain.

          "la vida no vale nada un lugar solita" "The Limits of Control Jim Jarmusch

          by rktect on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:26:41 PM PDT

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      •  energy companies may finally admit climate change (1+ / 0-)
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        when it begins to threaten their ice roads and drilling pads in the arctic, their offshore platforms in the Gulf of Mexico and the North Sea, all their refineries located near Gulf Coast Ports, the entire development of Brazil's offshore Atlantic oil fields. Fields in swampy coast Nicaragua, and pipelines running over permafrost.

        "la vida no vale nada un lugar solita" "The Limits of Control Jim Jarmusch

        by rktect on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:25:15 PM PDT

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      •  Senator Inhofe has no clue. (3+ / 0-)
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        While it may not be completely settled, there is strong reason to believe that global warming may disrupt the weather patterns, especially the monsoon rains, in south Asia. In addition, rising sea levels will induce people along the coasts to move north, creating refugee issues.

        Three of the nations in this region are China, India, and Pakistan; India has from time to time found itself in conflicts with China and Pakistan.

        All three of these nations possess nuclear weapons.

        This is the sort of thing that keeps the lights on late at night at the Pentagon.

        I don't expect Inhofe to listen to people he regards as longhairs with stars in their eyes; I do wish he would pay attention to the guys in crewcuts with stars on their shoulders.

        •  They still gotta say what he wants to hear. (0+ / 0-)

          His ears are closed to anything else. Besides, the guys with stars on their shoulders don't pay as well as the kochs.

          A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

          by dougymi on Sat May 17, 2014 at 05:46:24 PM PDT

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    •  Imagine global resource wars (1+ / 0-)
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      Even close allies may come to blows over fisheries and watersheds as food and water become scarce.

      Imagine that happens just as we discover that worsening storms and rising sea levels have left our Navy with no dependable seaports, our Airforce with no dependable airports near seaports.

      Its likely that some part of their mission statement will change to providing food and water and other humanitarian relief for refugees. There may be a number of such places right int he states as the East and Gulf coasts flood.

      The one third of our armed forces that is logistical must avoid any chance of grinding to an abrupt halt as long standing facilities become unusable.

      Unless planning for their construction miles inland of where they are currently located and graduated from one to  60 meters higher starts now they won't be built by the time they are needed.

      The navy may actually have to design its new seaports to have locks to accommodate the rising waters.

      "la vida no vale nada un lugar solita" "The Limits of Control Jim Jarmusch

      by rktect on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:20:27 PM PDT

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  •  The melting of our global warming denial (22+ / 0-)

    seems to be slower than the melting of our glaciers.
    Curious how this long standing and obvious reality is still being reported as breaking news.

    The truth about carbon emitting energy's impact on the planet  is hard to hear when so many are paid to be deaf.

    If cats could blog, they wouldn't

    by crystal eyes on Wed May 14, 2014 at 06:10:59 AM PDT

    •  warming (2+ / 0-)
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      and folks are going to have to do a LOT more than "warm up" to the idea that the planet is warming. Basically, we can organize damage control globally and COOPERATIVELY (and immediately), or we can wait until it degenerates into dystopian warfare, famine and water shortage as the planet is degraded to the point where there's nothing left to win. It's pretty much life or death while multitudes are dug into business as usual.

  •  Shorter version: "We have set into motion... (25+ / 0-)

    ...too many eventual resource conflicts for any collection of armed forces to quell or any alliance of wealth to placate."

    Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. --Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Egalitare on Wed May 14, 2014 at 06:13:48 AM PDT

  •  the history of responses to large disasters (9+ / 0-)

    whether human or natural should give pause to those wishing to maintain the present state of risk estimation

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Wed May 14, 2014 at 06:19:35 AM PDT

  •  Goddamned commies have infiltrated the (10+ / 0-)

    high command, to the barricades Patriots.

    Breaking Bundy's Boys arrested in Area 51,

    "I decided it is better to scream. Silence is the real crime against humanity." Nadezhda Mandelstam

    by LaFeminista on Wed May 14, 2014 at 06:26:11 AM PDT

  •  Well, like they say on TV (2+ / 0-)
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    "The US Navy: A Global Force for Good" (or something like that . . .)

    •  I read these climate change military reports as (5+ / 0-)

      a play for more Pentagon funding and not so much as a call to action to put in place the infrastructure and systems to slow the progress of this warming trend that we have created.

      I suppose that that is cynical, but unfortunately given recent history, I do not believe that I am wildly off the mark.

      •  Yes, you are very cynical! (3+ / 0-)
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        But as Lily Tomlin said, no matter how cynical one is, it's never enough . .. .

        However, as an ameliorating factor, as global warming unfolds, the ocean IS going to be getting bigger, giving the Navy more "territory" to patrol.  So, in that regard, enhanced funding may be in order . .. ..

        •  The Navy might not have docks soon enough... (0+ / 0-)

          Of course, all of the armed forces have reason to be concerned, but their responses have been entirely self-referential and self-centered - not to mention not particularly helpful in trying to end run the greater threat - but that would be counter-intuitive to that lot, I think, because they are inclined to ignore the ways in which their relevance would be lesser, and looking for ways that they can be not only relevant, but also INDISPENSABLE.  If there is no crisis, conflict or war, they are irrelevant.  If there is a crisis, conflict and endless war, they get their toys and their reason for being validated/funded.

          As far as I am concerned we are at a particularly low point in the history of the United States and the US military - and that's saying something given the history of this country and of mankind.

      •  Cynical, sure, but accurate (3+ / 0-)
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        The militarists are skilled at keeping their gravy train running; check their outsized share of federal spending. Even so, their calling attention to climate change, even with a selfish motivation, could help spread the message. Who knows what is needed to sound the alarm among the true believers. Salt water up to their necks? Maybe.

        “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” —Upton Sinclair

        •  and we need all the help we can get. (0+ / 0-)
          Welcome to Daily Kos. If you have any questions about how to participate here, you can learn more at the Community Guidelines, the Knowledge Base, and the Site Resource Diaries. Diaries labeled "Open Thread" are also great places to ask. We look forward to your contributions.

          ~~ from the DK Partners & Mentors Team.

          The dinosaurs never saw that asteroid coming. What's your excuse?
          ~~ Neil deGrasse Tyson

          by smileycreek on Wed May 14, 2014 at 01:33:43 PM PDT

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          •  What help will they give us? (0+ / 0-)

            The US Military is not lobbying to save Juan de Cuba's house in South Florida, they are lobbying for funds to put down insurrections when people in South Florida are displaced.  Make no mistake about their objectives and mission in this trendy demand for funding.

            I am really sorry to say that I am at the point where I believe that there are few people in political office or in our military who care about people living in America at all.  They care about having the systems in place to control people living in America, but not about serving and caring for people in this country.

            Please note that I did not say "American Citizens" because it is totally obvious that citizens are as about as interesting to them as immigrants.  They are looking towards a model of governance that is basically from Marie Antoinette's playbook.  Obama and crew are totally vested in it, too.  Sorry, but I think that that is the ugly truth at this juncture.  Anyone who was really serious about actual people and their lives in this country would have hit this issue hard and would not have played the bullshit games with our future that they have.

            •  Not quite Marie's playbook. (0+ / 0-)

              That whole "thing" was about mismanagement of their economy.  This one is about destruction of the means to fix the economy.

              In this replay of bad history, the well-off will delay action until the not-so need their stuff.  ALL of their stuff and more but there won't be any more.  Oops.

              The thing to watch in this country is that drought will cause people to move out of Oklahoma but OK will still get 2 Senators.  Repeat throughout the middle west.

              "Our problem is not that the glass is half empty or half full, but that the 1% claims that it is their glass." ---Stolen from a post on Daily Kos

              by jestbill on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:36:59 PM PDT

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      •  Republicans might listen (0+ / 0-)

        to the military, we all know the lovefest they have with big guns and ships and shit, might be one way to get the wingnuts to listen.

        If you are not the lead dog, the view never changes.

        by RepresentUsPlease on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:33:49 PM PDT

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      •  Military fundings mission is "To get it all" (0+ / 0-)

        just like the intelligence mission.

        A mission that actually wanted to deal preventatively rather than therapeutically with climate change would be focused on preserving fossil water and agricultural diversity rather than large one crop plantation style agribusinesses.

        The navy's mission should be to save the oceans, protect reefs, fish stocks, warn us when weather anomalies or pollution, or overfishing threatened to damage the resource and perhaps be the worlds policeman when it comes to saving endangered species by maintaining habitats.

        Failing that mission sort of dooms the whole human race.

        "la vida no vale nada un lugar solita" "The Limits of Control Jim Jarmusch

        by rktect on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:35:45 PM PDT

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  •  a few hundred million people (15+ / 0-)

    maybe as many as a billion, homeless, hungry and afraid.  What's to worry about in that scenario?

    I can just imagine what the Republican caucus talks about when they get these military briefings on risk.  What do they say,  "we still have enough active nukes to fix this"?  "we need more drones"  "we're gonna need a bigger boat"

    Because I am sure they don't say," Kock money be damned, we need to save life on this planet."

    •  Not a great response in Haiti (0+ / 0-)

      They landed food and water - and then they set up a perimeter to guard it - for days - before they started giving anything to the (scary) thirsty, hungry, homeless, injured, etc. people.

      Imagine that you have not even any water to drink, for days, in a tropical country, you may be injured, you may have lost your family along with everything you own, everything has collapsed around you - and in the distance you can see stacks of food and water, behind troops that are keeping you away from it.

      Then the U.N. brought them cholera, on top of everything else.

  •  The only question.... (0+ / 0-)

    has been answered fairly unequivocally.  The world is not going to do much about this.

  •  these warnings have been coming for about forty (2+ / 0-)
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    years. WTF? how can you do a U-turn in a freight train?

  •  Of course the Navy is concerned. In order to run (17+ / 0-)

    a navy, you need docks, shipyards, and all types of infrastructure that all happens to be near sea level.  Should that sea level rise precipitously, most of their stuff is underwater.  

    And it feels like I'm livin'in the wasteland of the free ~ Iris DeMent, 1996

    by MrJersey on Wed May 14, 2014 at 06:52:38 AM PDT

  •  I'm so glad that Arizona (1+ / 0-)
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    has a such a multitude of climate experts among our citizens who will stand up to scientists and the military and expose the Global Warming Conspiracy as scaremongering and as an excuse to exercise more control over our lives and to raise taxes and spend more money.  Letters to the Editor of our Daily Newsrag drive these points home every day. We are doomed without these voices of reason.

    Derp.

    Taking the road less traveled since 1967 .

    by Paragryne on Wed May 14, 2014 at 08:02:45 AM PDT

  •  Holy mecca! (1+ / 0-)
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    If they could admit that climate change is more scary than terrorism, then we're getting somewhere.

    A true craftsman will meticulously construct the apparatus of his own demise.

    by onionjim on Wed May 14, 2014 at 08:54:36 AM PDT

  •  Costs of Carbon (1+ / 0-)
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    On 3/31/14, I heard Elizabeth Kopits, National Center for Environmental Economics, EPA, speak on "The Social Cost of Carbon."  She is one of the people tasked with figuring out what figure the EPA should use to price carbon emissions from power plants and other installations.  She showed a slide which listed the other government agencies EPA was coordinating with and the Department of Defense was not there.

    I asked her specifically about DoD and their scenario planning and their costing of carbon and her answer was that EPA had not consulted with DoD but it was not because they weren't invited or excluded.  

    I'm hoping that my question might have spurred her and the EPA to remedy that oversight.

  •  Much more powerful / to the point (1+ / 0-)
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    language than they have been willing to use to date.

    Couple items re your post:

    1.  Suggest emphazing make-up of the CNA Advisory Board:  retired flag officers with some of them quite serious and even 'known'.  These are mainly "senior" retired officers.

    2.  Re Locklear, the Boston Globe provided only a limited window -- recommend looking at (citing) this: http://getenergysmartnow.com/...

    Blogging regularly at Get Energy Smart NOW! for a sustainable energy future.

    by A Siegel on Wed May 14, 2014 at 10:17:08 AM PDT

  •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

    Good bad news for  John McCain.

    That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

    by enhydra lutris on Wed May 14, 2014 at 11:09:55 AM PDT

  •  Sometimes I think they are preparing humanity... (1+ / 0-)
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    for the true space age.

    Making it so miserable here we as a species decide to venture in space in hopes of finding green pastures.

    Yeah I know too sci-fi, but it makes at least as much sense as ignoring all the data.

    Join the DeRevolution: We are not trying to take the country, we are trying to take the country back. Get the money out of politics with public financed campaigns so 'Of the People, By the People and For the People' rings true again.

    by fToRrEeEsSt on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:06:20 PM PDT

  •  As I said in a comment on another diary (0+ / 0-)

    (you may have missed it, it was late), the military has been sending these warnings since 2004:

    Now Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us.

    To be clear: I don't object to reporting on these ongoing reports.  I want these reports to be widely reported on.  But, I think it is naive (and I used to be naive) that such warnings from the Pentagon, or the World Bank, or the International Energy Agency, would have a large effect on policy.

    The reports are being ignored.  They have been being ignored for ten years now.  It is up to us to make policy change.

    © cai Visit 350.org to join the fight against global warming.

    by cai on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:14:36 PM PDT

    •  The trick with Bush (1+ / 0-)
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      Feed him Taco Bell BEFORE you show him these things so he will "feel it in his gut".

      I would tell you the only word in the English language that has all the vowels in order but, that would be facetious.

      by roninkai on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:23:14 PM PDT

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  •  The Kyoto Protocol Was A Missed Opportunity (0+ / 0-)

    years ago when global warming was well known to scientists, but the arrogant, brain-dead US politicians buried their heads up their rear ends and said that they couldn't see the problem.

    Fox Noise's billionaire Rupert Murdoch, the oil billionaire Kochroaches, and other fossil fools are a clear and present danger to every living thing on the planet.

  •  Climate change is severe national security risk (0+ / 0-)

    Well fucking DUH…

    Here are some others…

    All of our energy is in private hands which is a "severe national security risk".
    Our national policy should be NATIONALIZE our energy, ALL OF IT.
    Corporations cannot be trusted to have OUR NATIONS back.
    In the event of an emergency they will SELL US OUT.

    Water supplies: protect them at all costs from industry.
    Polution of deep water wells is increasing due to "fracking".
    Corporations cannot be trusted to have OUR NATIONS back.
    In the event of an emergency they will SELL US OUT.

    Our Military:
    What the fuck is up with Mercenaries?
    We don't need them.
    Corporations cannot be trusted to have OUR NATIONS back.
    In the event of an emergency they will SELL US OUT.

    Just keep adding to the list—

    I would tell you the only word in the English language that has all the vowels in order but, that would be facetious.

    by roninkai on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:18:15 PM PDT

  •  The 1973 OPEC Oil Embargo Was the Perfect Time (0+ / 0-)

    to switch to electric cars, solar energy, and wind energy, but Big Oil would have none of it.

    GM recalled and destroyed their popular electric car.  They overzealously hunted down all of them to make sure there were no survivors.

    Ronald Reagan with his ultraconservative Big Oil buddies brought back cheap gasoline and gas guzzling vehicles so the Ford Pinto and the Chevy Vega faded from view by the 1980s.

    Big Oil gobbled up the solar energy research and development grants the federal government provided and used it to bury clean and green energy.

  •  If anyone knows about sea level rising…. (0+ / 0-)

    It had better be the Navy. If we have any Navy facilities in North Carolina, time to move them to another state.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:27:37 PM PDT

  •  FYI (0+ / 0-)

    As I usually do on threads relating to Global Warming I provide this link for a list of basic arguments on the subject.

    A million Arcosantis.

    by Villabolo on Sat May 17, 2014 at 04:42:33 PM PDT

  •  I worked for CNA 25 years ago (0+ / 0-)

    before I went to graduate school. Nice to see that they are still doing good work!

  •  This is hardly new to the Navy (0+ / 0-)

    The Navy was studying climate change impacts already in the early 1970s on the theory that a) climate change would occur everywhere, but b) the manifestations would emerge unevenly. For example, rising temperature would be a lot less impactful directly, but would be seen in changing wind patterns and sea currents. The wind data went back to the 1930s as I recall, and the data were already being used in a global model at that time. This was incredibly prescient and showed a better grasp than even modern media discussion, which to this day gives the impression that a) climate change happens in certain places, and b) the direct impacts are what will take us down. Sea level rise for example, is a matter of millimeters per year at the global level. However, from a geodesic view, the net changes in some places might be profound because the shape of the planet adjusts.

    Society has had this data available for 40 years at least, yet globally the situation continues to decline. The astronomer Martin Rees caught hell for his 2003 prediction that humanity faced its most risky century ever, with the likelihood that even a single human is alive in 2100 at 50%. The subsequent inability of humanity to engage risk suggests he might actually have been a bit of an optimist.
     

  •  so.... it's straight from "it's a hoax" to (0+ / 0-)

    "it's a security threat! we need more tanks, more ships, more drones, more killer robots!"

    i'm not sure we weren't better off with "it's a hoax!"

    sigh.

    The NRA is a terrorist organization.

    by one you can live with on Sun May 18, 2014 at 07:06:55 AM PDT

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