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Conservatives haven't lost control of the GOP. They've lost control of the country.
Okay, this headline from the Washington Post's Robert Costa is absurd on its face:
Conservatives seek to regain control of Republican agenda
Conservatives don't control the GOP's agenda? Come on. This can't be a serious claim, can it? But apparently it is:
Although many Republicans are optimistic about their chances in this year’s elections, some of Washington’s leading conservatives gathered Thursday to privately vent frustrations about what kind of party they will be left with after November.

The group, alarmed by a resurgence of the GOP establishment in recent primaries and what activists view as a softened message, drafted demands to be shared with senior lawmakers calling on the party to “recommit” to bedrock principles.

Yes, I know tea party grifters haven't had the best run of it in primaries this year, but when it comes to actual policy, conservatives are still in the driver's seat. Consider that Republicans are responsible for:
  • The government shutdown
  • Inaction on immigration reform
  • Creating yet another #Benghazi committee
  • Stopping an increase in the minimum wage
  • Blocking ENDA and pay equality
  • Refusing to consider infrastructure improvements
  • Doing nothing about climate change
  • Saying no to extended unemployment benefits
  • Trying to curtail legal access to abortion

The list could go on. Yes, it's true that conservatives have been losing battles like the one over marriage equality, but that's not because they've lost control of the GOP. It's because they've lost control of the country. If conservatives have really lost control of the GOP, I'd hate to see what it looks like with them in charge. It's bad enough already.

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  •  It's all kabuki theater. (17+ / 0-)

    The GOP establishment and the Tea Party essentially have the same fucking beliefs, but the Tea Party has been fighting the establishment because the establishment is, in their view, insufficiently angry about things.

    Basically, the establishment wants to slash entitlement spending to deliver tax breaks to the rich.  The Tea Party wants to slash entitlement spending to punish those dirty moochers.  But in the end it's all the same fucking agenda.

    29, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:03:45 PM PDT

    •  The Tea Party was created by the establishment... (6+ / 0-)

      After the Bush administration totally trashed the Republican brand. They were DEAD and they needed either rebranding or the unthinkable for them (actual policy change).

      The one difference I have noticed about them is the Tea Party seems farther right on social issues and to some extent they have moved the party farther to the right too. For instance, the GOP has always been anti-abortion (at least in modern times), but previously they advocated it as an option for rape and incest. Now they're even for forcing woman who's been raped to give birth.

  •  Koch Brothers as Bircher Stonecutters (3+ / 0-)
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    CanisMaximus, Mannie, laurnj

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:05:17 PM PDT

  •  It's been said many times, many ways... (8+ / 0-)

    ...Not every Republican is a retrograde, misogynist, racist mouth-breather, but every retrograde, misogynist, racist mouth-breather is a Republican.

    "Wealthy the Spirit which knows its own flight. Stealthy the Hunter who slays his own fright. Blessed is the Traveler who journeys the length of the Light."

    by CanisMaximus on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:08:13 PM PDT

  •  GOP Suicide: What? We Are Still Here, So It Can't (3+ / 0-)
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    Mannie, TDDVandy, Yonit

    Be True....

    If corporations are people now, can we graze cattle on THEIR land?

  •  Simple logic does not allow me to believe (1+ / 0-)
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    that the repubs are going to kill in the elections.

    They are on the wrong side of every single issue of importance to the American people. And recklessly veering further over the bridge every single time one of them opens their piehole.

    See Jed's list for just the beginning of their wrongheadedness.

    I will continue to have high hopes for these elections until after the final results.

    "I did not have sex with that bridge"

    by Scottsdalian on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:10:34 PM PDT

    •  They may be on the wrong side (1+ / 0-)
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      The problem with being on the wrong side is that the wrong side is popular with people who can be counted on to vote. The anti-immigration, anti-intellectual, pro-religion, anti-poor-people platform is immensely appealing to a lot of people who don't seem to care that they personally are negatively affected by the policies that go along with it.

    •  You're forgetting (0+ / 0-)

      about the major work of redistricting the largely Republican state legislatures did. This has all but ensured a Republican-controlled House for the foreseeable future. The Senate, of course, isn't affected by redistricting, but it's also not a gimme that the Dems are going to keep control. That, traditionally, the party in the White House doesn't fare well in the mid-terms doesn't help things.

      These are probably the most important midterms in memory. If the Dems lose the Senate, the next two years are going to make the last six seem like a love-in. Congress will officially go off the rails and over the cliff. God help us all if the unthinkable happens and the R's somehow gain a veto-proof Senate.

  •  Maybe they mean to distinguish between (3+ / 0-)
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    Mannie, anon004, Yonit

    traditional Republican far-right corporatist conservatives of, say, Paul Ryan's ilk, and batshit crazy militia-Truther conservatives like Clive Bundy?

    You can tell Monopoly is an old game because there's a luxury tax and rich people can go to jail.

    by Simian on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:16:02 PM PDT

  •  No no, they mean "real" conservatives... (6+ / 0-)
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    Mannie, TDDVandy, anon004, john07801, Yonit, laurnj

    Like a "true" Scotsman, there is no "real" conservative, because it's always possible, given any position, to be even more conservative.

  •  A reasonable observer... (2+ / 0-)
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    Mannie, Yonit

    ...might substitute the word "extremists" for "conservatives" in this context (they might call themselves "purists").

    Whatever the name, one thing about them is this: they go all in. I'm sure they view themselves as the only "true" conservatives, and anything - or anyone - compromising their principles (for lack of a better word), no matter how slightly, as not only intolerable but downright traitorous.

    It might therefore follow that anything less than total control is considered to be none at all.

    {I always feel a little funky after trying to put myself into the heads of e̶x̶t̶r̶e̶m̶i̶s̶t̶s̶  p̶u̶r̶i̶s̶t̶s̶  conservatives.}

  •  What's the difference between a (3+ / 0-)
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    Mannie, Yonit, cybersaur

    "conservative" and an "establishment Republican" if they all vote the same way on practically every bill that comes out of the House?  Six of one, a half dozen of the other.  With Boehner coddling the conservatives at every turn and by refusing to call any bill to a vote the Democrats might support, I ask again, what difference do the labels make?
    What a fcking joke.

    "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

    by SueDe on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:17:15 PM PDT

  •  The GOP; juvenile delinquent 13 year olds, (4+ / 0-)
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    Mannie, Yonit, cybersaur, JG in MD

    Put in charge of a group of spoiled brat 8 year olds.

    "It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion." - Mentat Paul Ryan

    by Fordmandalay on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:22:26 PM PDT

  •  It's Just a Preemptive Denial (3+ / 0-)
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    Mannie, Yonit, laurnj

    before the Voters go to the Polls in November.

    If the Conservatives are Not in Charge, then they Can't
    be Blamed for Results.

    Just Ignore the Fact that they Control the House of
    Representatives.  And the Budget.

    And the Select Committee on Benghazi.

    ALL those things are Decided by Someone Else.

    On Giving Advice: Smart People Don't Need It and Stupid People Don't Listen

    by Brian76239 on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:27:24 PM PDT

  •  The teaparty idiots vs regular conservative idiots (1+ / 0-)
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    Basically the argument in the KOP (Koch Owned Party) is:

    Teaparty: Punish all the non SWC (Straight White Christians) via social and economic issues


    GOP-e (GOP elite as the freepers say): Make EVERYONE bow down to the corporate elite

    Never underestimate stupid. Stupid is how reTHUGlicans win!

    by Mannie on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:28:10 PM PDT

  •  I echo that final sentiment... (5+ / 0-)

    If conservatives are truly not in control of the Republican agenda, then I'm definitely sure I don't want to see what it's like when they are.

    But that aside, it's almost hilarious to see WaPo really make that claim. As if doing so somehow excuses the failures of decidedly Republican policies. "It's not our fault things suck! It's just because we're not in control!" Well, that kind of shows they can't even run themselves, much less a country.

    Which is what I've always said: Republicans are simply not equipped to run a country. They don't know how to govern. Which is a convenient explanation for why they always say government is the problem.

    "When facts are reported, they deny the value of evidence; when the evidence is produced, they declare it inconclusive." -- Augustine, in The City of God.

    by Zek J Evets on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:29:06 PM PDT

  •  If conservatives don't, who does? (1+ / 0-)
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    It's Reichsleiter Rush Hudson Limbaugh III of course.

    [Godwin's Law does not apply to political titles.]

    We're all just working for Pharaoh.

    by whl on Fri May 16, 2014 at 03:48:14 PM PDT

  •  In the Michigan 11th, teabagger Kerry.... (1+ / 0-)
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    Bentivoulio is being primaried from the "center" by Dave Trott.  Show me one vote taken by Bentivoulio that Dave Trott would vote differently on.  My assessment is that the only substantive difference between foreclosure king TRott and Bentivoulio is a $1,000 suit and reindeer shit on one's shoes.

  •  If you think of yourself as a victim all the time (1+ / 0-)
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    then its easy to see how anything that doesn't go your way means that you aren't in control

    "The oppressors most powerful weapon is the mind of the oppressed." - Stephen Biko

    by gjohnsit on Fri May 16, 2014 at 04:02:06 PM PDT

  •  He forgot to add "legitimate" in front of (1+ / 0-)
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    "conservatives", like the way Akin talked about "legitimate" rape.

    My Karma just ran over your Dogma

    by FoundingFatherDAR on Fri May 16, 2014 at 04:34:00 PM PDT

  •  Conservatives DON'T control GOP Agenda... (0+ / 0-)

    it is controlled by radical right wing zealots, bigots and delusionists who call themselves "conservative" but are in no way cautious, prudent, safety-first defenders of the established order.

    There's no such thing as a free market!

    by Albanius on Fri May 16, 2014 at 06:53:02 PM PDT

  •  Duh! Who do you think? (1+ / 0-)
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    penelope pnortney

    The "Conservatives" don't control EITHER party. It is not conservative to work tirelessly to destroy the middle class. It is not conservative to purchase legislation, legislators and ignore voters. It is not conservative to ignore the Constitution and to twist every idea and right for personal gain. No true conservative would want money to control the government. NO! It is Fascists and Corporatists who have been working for an oligarchic takeover of the US Government. This foolish and fake debate is a red herring that is not fueled by anything conservative. It is a radical attempt to dismantle the mechanisms of democracy while we all watch extremist TV. Even the false label of "News" is designed to divert us all from information and does things like label Mitt Romney and Chris Christie and Jeb Bush as "moderate conservatives" when in fact they are radical ideologues with an far from conservative agenda... personal gain at any cost to the countr
    y. THAT does not "Conserve" anything.

  •  New (0+ / 0-)

    Anyone with a billion dollars and needs a law changed.

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