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..or perhaps GOP pseudo-adult-men and/or women would be more clear. This observation of mine is about maturity not masculinity.
Normally and to be fair I would include women in the title of this rant about the alarming decrease in normal adult development so manifest in the GOP, as Marsha Blackburn, Michele Bachmann or an even tighter fit, Virginia Foxx are, all three, prime examples of never-made-it-past-high-school-level-theatrics. But a woman as republican presidential nominee? republican men had to be shamed (or more probably, advised it could hurt them) into appointing one woman as a token on their committee to discuss women's issues, hence the focus on pseudo adult-men.  

Either way, the old adage: 'With age comes Wisdom' is just not there. What we get are tantrums, lying, inane conspiracy theories, some even dangerous (Cliven Bundy militant crowd et al | aka F0X & friends) with flat out denials of environmental science, any science; social, evolutionary or otherwise in service of a "Starve the Beast" economic platform.  
Paul Krugman has named it:

The answer is that like that ice sheet, his partys [republican] intellectual evolution (or maybe more accurately, its devolution) has reached a point of no return, in which allegiance to false doctrines has become a crucial badge of identity.
Whining, reactionary kneejerk responses instead of reasoned answers. A bunch of immature loser crybabies whose positions as lawmakers are bought and paid for by the 1%ers to do whatever and only what the 1%ers desire. Nothing that will help the middle class worker, protect our environment or secure a future of shared prosperity for all.

This is where Paul Ryan comes in. The pampered boy "genius" the GOP has leaned on (worships) as their economic policy guru, voted to be second in command (Vice President), lost that bid yet once again is now seriously considered Presidential timber, and just the man to set the "conservative" fiscal agenda for the country.  Un-f'cking believable.

Except it's not. Not any more. This is the republican party today
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So, in servile deference to their "betters" - the 1%ers - comes this latest republican attempt to curry favor.

Paul Ryan's 'Blame the Poor' summer poverty tour:

A retro narrative blaming joblessness on those hurt by the 2007-2008 financial, tax payer bailed out crash that irresponsible republican Wall Street/high finance gambling and subsequent partisan/politically motivated austerity has wrought. And this latest spun up crap is also another ploy to excuse giving even more money to the already $bloated while ignoring proven solutions that would strengthen the economic fortunes of the vast majority of real people and their families

“It is not bread the poor need, it is Soul; It is not soup, it is Spirit.” – Source: Walter I. Trattner from “Poor Law to Welfare State” | 1974 | about the same time the Powell memo came out: Part of a corporate blueprint to dominate democracy that was taking off in the 1970's.
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Coming out of the last great depression when wealth disparity was at an all time high, there was massive unemployment, and it stayed bad like that for far too long.

With so many people left hungry and homeless a whole range of ideas and "philosophies" about the poor began to take hold in the "conservative" world on how to deal with poverty. Conservatives spun up a narrative 140 years ago, that today's GOP are now trying their damnedest to convince us of as truth; pushing the same austerity bullshit agenda as the solution for today's jobless numbers.

It's the same destructive idea - nothing new

Blame those out of work for "not having a soul" or "lacking in spirit". That helping to feed the poor is actually hurting them. That extending unemployment insurance (that every worker has paid into) is some how harming the workers.

Unemployment that these GOP pseudo adult-man shills have spent the better part of 6 years now slashing funding with a political purpose; rejecting numerous jobs Bills; working to tank the economy rather than admit their trickle down, voo-doo, fairy-dust hogwash doesn't work. Never has worked, and never will work except for the already filthy rich.

Everyone knows "conservative" movement economic policies do not work despite what the Pete Petersons of the world say.

The titans of industry know it doesn't work for middle Americans, Wall Street knows it, Walmart knows it doesn't work and actually has middle class taxpayers pay for their poverty wage employees. They want poverty and the cheap wage labor that comes with it

No one except the non-rich workers who still vote republican, against their own interests seem to be unaware that modern "conservatism" is not about "free markets" or liberty or anything else. It's about greed, paying no corporate taxes, polluting without restrictions or financial consequences/penalty and getting labor for the lowest cost no matter who suffers and that includes a natural healthy environment

And as Paul Ryan is now pimping:

We are at a moment, where if government's growth is left unchecked and unchallenged, America's best century will be considered our past century. This is a future in which we will transform our social safety net into a hammock, which lulls able-bodied people into lives of complacency and dependency.
We are indeed at "a moment". A moment that isn't new, isn't honest, isn't a solution and happens whenever the wealthiest need reinforcements to their system rigging so that 90% of all gains go those most wealthy

We already know what this is - It's bullshit

We already know what works. Proven in fact and practice. Share of the nations income during the late 50's and 60's that built a strong productive middle class was much more fair because workers received more of what their labor, NOT "capital", produced. That share tracks directly with the top marginal tax rates.

Paul Ryan’s so-called "modern" solutions touted by the RWNJ's as progress and a "path to prosperity" are really nothing more than a 2014 adaptation of a trope going back nearly 140 years during an era of Robber Barons of a Gilded Age: “The Left is offering a full stomach & and empty soul” because of a “tail spin of culture in our inner cities”

Which makes me wonder if Ryan's deep concern with the so-called cultural "tail spin" of "inner cities" extends to the mountains of Appalachia and what is being disparaged by the right as 'the draw'. I must have missed that. But the good people of Kentucky sure didn't miss the Dem governor's cooperation with and expansion of Medicaid in those parts.  

My source: Politics Nation’s Reverend Al Sharpton May 14, 2014 | Reverend Al Sharpton interviews Arthur Delany on his article (video @ link):
Paul Ryan's Approach To Poverty Is Straight Out Of The 19th Century where Arthur Delany singles out Trattner as yet another copycat on the same theme that can be traced dating back as early as the 1870's

This summer, Ryan plans to unveil a new blueprint for tackling poverty, the culmination of his work with Woodson and his trips to poor neighborhoods.

Despite their calls for a new approach to poverty, however, Ryan and Woodson's ideas are extremely old-fashioned. Indeed, they echo conservative views about welfare going all the way back to the English Poor Laws of the 17th century, which categorized poor people according to their deservingness of help. These ideas have gained popularity at different times since then in response to different crises, like when "tramps" terrorized American towns in the 1870s..

 - emphasis added

Tackling poverty? No. Spinning an old narrative to justify those who don't produce anything useful, to steal the lions share off the backs of workers who do.

This is exactly how an immature underdeveloped adult reacts. Threatened by the thought of taking on responsibility and actual work. Holding themselves above others fearing that without greater wealth they would not measure up. It's a sick need to deprive others to distinguish themselves with the security blanket of a "higher rung" on the social ladder; where self aggrandizing and the notion of entitlement is measured in money not in ability and honest work

My other trusted source; Joy Ann Reid of 'The Reid Report'

Here Joy Ann Reid speaks with Arthur Delaney and Mychal Denzel Smith @ the Nation
(short ad – sorry)  Joy Ann Reid @ MSNBC:   http://www.nbcnews.com/...

Where is this lack of maturity and self discipline coming from that we can see in today's republicans? I hesitate to use the term childish, because children are..well they're children with much of life's lessons yet to learn. But these punks we see mocking, slandering, lying, cheating, faking, bloviating, stealing, pandering, hurting others, are a whole different creature - the GOP

The objectivist "ideology" seems like at least one major source.

Many young pre-men were drawn to "the collective" ; from a past comment where in 2011 Digby wrote: "The Totally Awesome Ayn Rand Teen Club" referencing an article on the seduction of youth to the Ayn Rand philosophy titled: "How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men and Helped Make the U.S. Into a Selfish, Greedy Nation"

Paul Ryan may not have gray hair, and Rubio hasn't yet lost all of his as the younger of the GOP's possible Presidential prospects, but the level of thinking in the ideas from the right is as reactionary, simplistic, dishonest and as over-proven to be unsuccessful as those coming from the older republican leadership could possibly be. The last republican choice, never-to-be-President-Romney; a perfect example of a man aged boy I can think of. Maybe Newt - waaaah I had to sit in the back of the plane - Gingrich is in there somewhere, or Rand Paul thinking he's fooling anyone with his use exploiting of populist ideas he theorizes about and pretends to support. Sean Hannity, Steve Doocy, Limbaugh, all of F0x..

Or the Louie Gohmert's - really, an actual idiot serving as a congressan?

And then there is Ted Cruz - carnival barker, charlatan, huckster, blowhard, and coward. All of these one word descriptions overrate him as a person and underrate him as a threat to democracy.

Okay forget them. We Dems could/should/must make it known that there is no good to come from the republican party with the people in charge right now; maybe as it has been all along, but with more proficient talking liars in past days when skillful lying meant something to the right (see Karl Rove/Frank Luntz). Now, any subtlety, nuance or even plausibility has been abandoned, almost sneered at by the RWNJ's for being too wimpy, exposing the full measure of down right petulant incompetence so plain to see.
Or it could be the demographic "threat" to white leadership hadn't yet sunk in until there was an AA President in the White House, elected, then re-elected by a solid majority both times; many hatreds resurfacing causing fear in those to lose the mask revealing their ugliest, racist, misogynist/homophobic sides so plainly

We can not move forward with these stunted people. We can't compromise a solution out of them either. they are greedy selfish assholes.  We must tend to our own concerns and defeat them.

I will agree with Paul Ryan on one thing though; If pampering someone can make one lazy, and even stunt personal growth, having never experienced real hardship and hard work, then yes, the hammock of wealth has proven that to be true - imo

We need mature, reasonable, compassionate, intelligent, work hardened and time tested grown-ups as our elected representatives and in our courts. We have the opposite on the right. They must be removed. We need qualified Grown ups  - and I don't mean gray hair or the number of years of age

P.S. unemployment insurance and other vital social programs are only part of a wide range of issues this rant isn't even touching on, where college age kids prove to be more grown-up and possess a higher degree of sophistication in their understanding of and coping with the realities of life than today's republicans. I'd link to examples, but they are too many to number and too hard to miss.

Also too I'm no psychologist and no brain about fiscal stuff so this is just a carpenters take on what seems almost unreal to see going on

Note: this message/rant is aimed at all workers, especially those that vote republican. I'm hoping to help change some minds. Why continue to vote for half baked chickenshit corpo brown-noser pseudo adult-man shills like a Joe Walsh type idiot begging for access to the uber wealthy country club crowd living high on the hog thanks to our underpaid labor, undeserved tax subsidies, and loopholes only they can afford?
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Thanks for stopping by and putting up with me as I didn't offer any solutions with my long winded rant that most all here @ Daily Kos aren't already tuned in on (progressive caucus various budgets), and allowing me to help this good thing that both Joy Ann Reid, Reverend Al Sharpton and other good people in the links are working so hard spreading the word and pushing back hard on this unfair assault on people  :)
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* Wall Street including supply side representation as a structure  

Just one more thing Paul Ryan knows what does work: -> Keynesian economics
attribution: hammock of wealth via Crooks & Liars | unable to attach attribution to image itself

Originally posted to Eric Nelson on Sat May 17, 2014 at 02:12 PM PDT.

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  •  Change the title please (3+ / 0-)
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    I really don't want to HR this for Transphobia.

  •  right...on..!! (13+ / 0-)

    sick of the selfish punks and bullies.

    like immature apprentices that think they know it all...have some new idea...trickle-down...horse and sparrow...ain't nothing new.

    [...] what an older and less elegant generation called the horse-and-sparrow theory: 'If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.'" Galbraith claimed that the horse and sparrow theory was partly to blame for the Panic of 1896.
    p.s...well done on the title change...a true gent...I also was ignorant of that term's use.

    We are not broke, we are being robbed. ~Shop Kos Katalogue~

    by Glen The Plumber on Sat May 17, 2014 at 05:49:37 PM PDT

  •  I Like it... (10+ / 0-)

    I don't know if it moves the needle any -I'm not sure that those who most desperately need to be reached and awaken - can be reached - but it's a good summary of how far beyond the looking glass of ration and sanity the GOP center has traversed.  Their a God-Damned Deluded Conspiracy Cult.  Period.  End of Story.

  •  Terrific diary, Eric. Although you call it a ... (13+ / 0-)

    ...rant, I don't think it is. Every rant goes a little over the top, and you didn't.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Sat May 17, 2014 at 08:53:26 PM PDT

    •  Agreed, not a rant. (7+ / 0-)

      This is exactly what the modern GOP has become.

      They have not evolved, they they have instead devolved into...well, exactly what Eric said.

      The problem as I see it too is that today's republicans cannot be reasoned with. There is no logic within them to work with, and everything for them is a petty pitiful temper tantrum if they don't get their way.

      In short. Working with them on legislation will take this country back 140 years. That is their goal, why in the hell should we bargain with that?

      "We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." Louis Brandeis

      by wxorknot on Sun May 18, 2014 at 07:16:01 AM PDT

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  •  nice rant (5+ / 0-)
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    They want poverty and the cheap wage labor that comes with it.....amen brother..............

  •  My kind of Rant ... All for it .. (4+ / 0-)
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    "...where self aggrandizing and the notion of entitlement is measured in money not in ability and honest work..."

    So very, very true.  And sadly, I see it everywhere anymore.  

    When Republicans Win You Lose

    by workinguy on Sun May 18, 2014 at 05:01:37 AM PDT

  •  Nice Diary! (5+ / 0-)
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    Sure called out the immaturity that is evident!

    Just for the record, I understood clearly, given the context of the diary what the term you used indicated. Supposed adults, or immature ones posing as if they are adults. I guess it is part of the reason I don't write much, I'm always concerned my choice of words will offend someone because of something I don't know or hadn't thought of. I too will take lesson and am thankful to have learned it.

    I'm wondering too what a first best course of action might be to bring about change? I suppose diaries that bring forward the truths and connect the dots is actually a very needed first step? Bringing often to our collective consciousness, the awareness of the methods of the emotional subliminal tactics that has been used against the citizens for political, financial and power gain for the few.

    Thanks for writing it, I appreciate it and hope others will engage in potential solution or convo.

    Work In Progress...Laser Focus on Concepts of Evolving, Expanding Awareness.

    by Skyye on Sun May 18, 2014 at 05:18:24 AM PDT

    •  for me, it helps focus my efforts (5+ / 0-)
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      the diarist made a strong case that there are many who are unreachable. So don't waste your time trying. That includes our congresscritters and any other bipartisan fetishists.
      By association, that means there are those who can be reached; those who vote against their interests out of lack of understanding. the loyal republican pep club will not turn against their party any more than a Red Sox fan will root for the Yankees.
      diaries like this remind me to focus on the possible, and not merely decry the FUBAR state of the republican party at large and the nations' politics as a whole.

      Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

      by kamarvt on Sun May 18, 2014 at 06:55:50 AM PDT

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      •  Absolutely and hallelujah! (4+ / 0-)
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        Yes!

        diaries like this remind me to focus on the possible, and not merely decry the FUBAR state of the republican party at large and the nations' politics as a whole.
        BTW: Very Informative Sig! Thanks!

        It's the focused light, the laser that has the astounding power to cut the hardest most impenetrable!

        Thanks, kamarvt, for pointing this truth out to keep focus on the possible, which my mindseye sees as light.

        Work In Progress...Laser Focus on Concepts of Evolving, Expanding Awareness.

        by Skyye on Sun May 18, 2014 at 07:37:30 AM PDT

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  •  Just a carpenter (4+ / 0-)
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    Eric Hoffer (author: The True Believers) was just longshoreman.

     I like your diary, maybe beause it says more succintly what I have observed.

    The observation on lack of maturity is right on.

    •  Lack of maturity + lack of morals (3+ / 0-)
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      Their pontifications on how undeserving the rest of us are makes me sick. Especially since most people ARE WORKING, they just are not making enough money to survive. These politicians are not ignorant. They deliberately skew the truth.

      I have heard from time to time about a judge who sentences a slum lord to live a few weeks in his own crappy building. That is how these rich, spoiled, politicians ought to live.

      These people know nothing about hardship, nor do they care to. Actually it would be nice to have "just a carpenter " in office. We could do that if we got rid of money in politics.

      If billionaires can afford to spend millions of dollars so that they can avoid paying taxes and fair wages, then they *can afford* to pay taxes and fair wages!

      by Pixie5 on Sun May 18, 2014 at 06:30:35 PM PDT

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  •  The repulican embrace of "correlation" . . . (2+ / 0-)
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    . . . only extends to the fanciful tales that they can spin to support their biases; such as a hateful approach to the working poor.

    The significant correlations that scientific research generates, as with anthropogenic global warming, are so easily disputed by those immature republicans.

    That they have a voice in political discourse rather than being dismissed as cranks is an amazing failure of our time.

  •  Exactly (3+ / 0-)
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    This describes the RWNJ section of the GOP perfectly. It seems that to please the red meat base, crazy is the starting point and the madness, deception, and hatred only escalate from there. Ryan has been caught time after time flat out lying, yet the baggers love him because he slanders the poor and spreads an Ayn Rand philosophy of "Me first, screw you" which the emotionally stunted admire.

    I hear Rethugs say all the time that they're embarrassed by the RWNJs in their party, yet every single one of them continues to cater to the crazy hater element, only to end up firmly rejected by the majority of Americans. It's like they're hopelessly addicted to their own self-destruction.  Not that I mind them self-destructing; far from it. I just wish they'd admit that they don't have the guts to stand up to the baggers and stop pretending otherwise.

    •  You put your finger on... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...the reason the attitudes you and Eric decry continue to flourish:

      ...which the emotionally stunted admire.
      In the end, it matters not whether the Ryans, Cruzes or whomever subscribe, at their own emotional levels, to what they dish out; they know what - as they say in the theater - either "plays" or "doesn't play." Like a kiddie show host who acts the fool for a half-hour a day, they give their audience what it wants, and whether the host is actually a fool the other 23 1/2 hours of the day is irrelevant.  

      We've all seen Coulter get cheers for her self-described "schoolyard taunts;" Palin for her juvenile mocking with giant Slurpees or phrases like "mom jeans;" Trump makes himself a hero for a day with adolescent snark about the way Obama "runs down the stairs." And the base laps it up.

      This is what appeals to the electorate they've cultivated. But as you suggest, it's a recipe for self-destruction. Their target demographic is shrinking by attrition, and they'll be stuck with only "cult" appeal until, out of self-preservation, they decide to cut the cult loose.  

      •  Pragmatism has its place, but so does honesty.. (1+ / 0-)
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        ..and truth, which in todays atmosphere is severely lacking and is causing a breakdown in democratic representation. A huge problem we face.

        In the end, it matters not whether the Ryans, Cruzes or whomever subscribe, at their own emotional levels, to what they dish out; they know what - as they say in the theater - either "plays" or "doesn't play." Like a kiddie show host who acts the fool for a half-hour a day, they give their audience what it wants, and whether the host is actually a fool the other 23 1/2 hours of the day is irrelevant.
         

         • "It matters not... " - wrong

         • "give their audience what they want.." - wrong. they promise one thing and do another

         • "irrelevant" - wrong

        Too many workers without the means or time off work to keep up with the politicking are fed a constant diet of absolute untruth, causing confusion (purposeful confusion) leading to too many already struggling people to unknowingly vote against their own interests.

        We can work to defeat that kind of corruption  

         So no. it does matter if the republicans are putting  on a "show' or out right lying. It matters a lot.

        Also: Nothing is irrelevant when our voices are being systematically silenced.

         And the glib "matter of fact" manner in which I've heard people throw around terms like "this ain't bean bag" or "If you can't take the heat.." other equally dismissive remarks are just easy excuses to justify bad behavior.

        Excuses we've heard from the "third way" or "No labels" attempts at false equivalency to protect a laissez faire 1%er system of privilege

        And they're bullshit covering for smear tactics and more lying to the constituents about a GOP platform that would be rejected by those constituents if properly informed

        And no we Dems won't help our cause by merely waiting for "attrition" to take place or for the republican party to "decide" to excise their demons; "their cult" either.

        That cult is a creation of the GOP leaderships own greed in service of a tiny minority, and defines the GOP today. A tool they happily, noisily supported in 2010

        Republicans are not innocent in this, and wouldn't hesitate to fully endorse and support the most extreme teabagger RWNJ's this very day if they didn't fear losing because of it.

        Thankfully they will lose for exactly these reasons, not because they strive to do what is good for the country.

        •  I get where you're coming from... (0+ / 0-)

          ...and, incidentally, found nothing with which to disagree in your diary.

          But to clarify my meaning: what I'm saying is that whether Ted Cruz, for example, is the true wacko he appears to be or only "plays one on television," the effect - and the result - is the same.

          I'd apply that to mouthpieces like Beck and Limbaugh as well (neither of whom I accept for a minute personally believes even half of what they say). Ergo, your descriptors "carnival barker, charlatan, huckster, blowhard, and coward" are quite appropriate. So it might have been more accurate of me to have said, "they give their audience the performance it wants." This is especially true in light of the bait-and-switch to which you allude, and to which that audience remains largely oblivious.

          My point, then, is that the "immaturity" about which to be concerned - and upon which to be focused - is not that of the performers, but that of the audience.

          I'd never suggest that Republicans are blameless, that Dems merely wait for attrition to do its job (although it eventually would anyway, electorally speaking), or that honesty and truth, as well as the hazards of voting against one's own interests, are irrelevant. I'm saying only that the sincerity - or the "immaturity" - of those who seek to induce it is, and therefore, that their character flaws - which may be either genuine or feigned - are beside the point. What matters is not what's wrong with who's selling, but who's buying and why.  

          Or, to paraphrase The Bard, the fault lies not in their political stars, but in themselves.

          Hucksters are gonna hawk no matter what, so consumer education - rather than lamenting that used car salesmen are dishonest - is key.  

          •  Wow; blame the constituents, many who work too.. (1+ / 0-)
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            ..many hours and have too many responsibilities in their lives to make time enough sift through the load of crap coming from the right. Swamped by the MSM at every level with carefully crafted  spun up disinformation.

            "they give their audience the performance it wants."
            The audience of engaged extremists which amounts to a tiny number
            This is especially true in light of the bait-and-switch to which you allude, and to which that audience remains largely oblivious.
            Agreed. The remainder of less engaged, too busy to sift through crap, and also the majority of the republican voters has been and continues to be deceived, and would not continue to vote against their own best interests if they were better served.

            The wallet speaks much louder than is being presented here. Proven many times over throughout history

            And this:

            "they give their audience the performance it wants."
            Again the audience that "wants" this crap is tiny. The extremist teabag paramilitary. Electorally insignificant. and the GOP knows it. ALEC knows it. And the enormously powerful business interests know it

            Hence the well funded lies.

             The plurality of the GOP voter wants the Dems agenda; Gun safety background checks; immigration reform; minimum wage; equal pay for women; birth control; even PPACA.

             All reasonably neutral polls indicate this.

            But this:

            My point, then, is that the "immaturity" about which to be concerned - and upon which to be focused - is not that of the performers, but that of the audience.
            SMH
            •  It may sound harsh... (0+ / 0-)

              ...but, yeah: I do "blame the constituents;" at least the majority of them who vote the subjects of your diary into office. Don't you say at the conclusion of that very diary, "this message/rant is aimed at all workers, especially those that vote republican?"

              As you point out -

              The plurality of the GOP voter wants the Dems agenda; Gun safety background checks; immigration reform; minimum wage; equal pay for women; birth control; even PPACA.
              - and they don't need to "sift through crap," no matter how busy they are, to know that's what they want. The differences between that agenda and the one offered by (R)s are clear and out in the open for all to see, especially at election time, and each individual voter chooses in which to place their trust.

              Yet too many do so and vote with those who, as you put it earlier, "are putting on a 'show' or out right lying" (and all too often, in spite of openly declared opposition to those very things you list above) by allowing themselves to be seduced into fearing job-killing socialism, inner city culture, threats to traditional marriage or what-have-you. That being the case, I maintain that whichever one applies - show, lying or true fanaticism - doesn't matter when the ballot counts come out the same in the end.

              I don't dispute that those voters should be "better served," but until they stop - as I said above and repeat with emphasis - allowing themselves to, as you say, "be deceived," they won't be served by those "mature, reasonable, compassionate, intelligent, work hardened and time tested grown-ups." They, in fact, will be the ones preventing that very service.

              You say also:

              ...the audience that "wants" this crap is tiny.
              This is the very point with which I ended my original reply to Catmommy.

              So I don't see that you and I really have major points of contention here. We seem to agree that voters are being hoodwinked by a party in thrall to an "electorally insignificant" group of extremists, and that it's ultimately the responsibility of "those that vote Republican" to choose to respond to messaging that, on its very face, comports more closely with their own desires and interests than that which they've been following.

              The Ryans, Cruzes and others aren't going to grow up. It's voters who have to.

        •  Simply boiled down (1+ / 0-)
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          its all about everything for them, and nothing for anybody else. The hallmark of the hypocritical, greedy cheap labor conservative.

  •  The GOP and its enablers often remind me of 13- (1+ / 0-)
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    year-olds.

    Marco Rubio to Sean Hannity last week, whining about the Affordable Care Act and Democrats:

    “They view the country as children, and that they have the medicine that we need to take to make us better, even if we don’t like it, and so even if they have to lie to us about what we’re taking, even if they have to lie to us about how it would work, they’re gonna make us do it because they know what’s right for us better than we know what’s right for us[.]"
    This is how middle-schoolers talk about their stupid teachers and dopey parents.
    •  I notice the whole tone of that is "Me, me, me" (0+ / 0-)

      What about the people who feel that it IS right for them?

      Again these rich idiots don't get that a lot of people are being helped by this. Of course THEY don't have to worry about bankruptcy due to medical bills!

      Instead of complaining they should work on making it better. But of course that would mean working with Obama, and we can't have that!

      If billionaires can afford to spend millions of dollars so that they can avoid paying taxes and fair wages, then they *can afford* to pay taxes and fair wages!

      by Pixie5 on Sun May 18, 2014 at 06:43:04 PM PDT

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