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U.S. Republican Senators John McCain (L) and Lindsey Graham talk during the Fiscal Responsibility Summit at the White House in Washington February 23, 2009.       REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque   (UNITED STATES)
Let's say you were browsing around the web and you happened to find yourself on Hypothetically speaking, of course. Now, let's say you come across this headline...
Lawmakers say Rice’s story has ‘absolutely collapsed’ amid more questions on Benghazi account
...and it turns out that one of the lawmakers in question is South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham.

Which do you think would be more likely: That Fox's content management system had suffered a glitch and was errantly pumping out a story that was first published in March of 2013, when Graham said this about Rice...

Her story has completely collapsed under scrutiny.
...or that Fox was trying to promote Graham saying the exact same thing more than a year later as if it were something new?

Obviously, it's the latter. And his comments—and Fox's stenography of them—have rocketed around Breitbarts and Washington Timeses of the world, but there's literally nothing new about what he said, except maybe the word "absolutely."

The most amazing thing about the GOP obsession with Benghazi is that essentially nothing has changed in the past 18 months. What we know now is pretty much what we knew then—that a terrible attack occurred, that in the immediate aftermath of the attack, its causes were misinterpreted, and that it took a few weeks to get things sorted out.

Given the endless investigation of Benghazi, you'd think this fact would convince conservatives that Benghazi isn't actually an Obama conspiracy after all. Instead, they seem to think the lack of information exposing a conspiracy is proof that the conspiracy is even bigger than they first thought. And you know what that means? The longer this goes on, the bigger they'll think the conspiracy is, because one thing's for sure: Nothing is going to come out exposing an Obama Benghazi conspiracy—because there wasn't one.

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  •  I know Dick Cheney and you're no Dick Cheney nt (12+ / 0-)

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:18:00 AM PDT

  •  Basically, I agree, nothing SHOULD (9+ / 0-)

    come from this non-scandal.  However, as I recall, they were able to make quite some hay from Whitewater, a "scandal" under which the Clintons LOST money.  

    They are good at making "something" out of nothing.

    Rush — the quivering rage heap who is apparently desperately trying to extinguish any remaining molecule of humanity that might still reside in the Chernobyl-esque Superfund cleanup site that was his soul. -- Jon Stewart

    by Its the Supreme Court Stupid on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:21:09 AM PDT

  •  I don't even know .. . (7+ / 0-)

    what the hypotheses are supposed to be. They do claim that the WH tried to spin it in a way that minimized the misjudgment about security, which might be true, I dunno. But that's not a scandal, it's just ordinary politics. As far as I can tell that's all they've ever managed to assert about this, and they just keep repeating it. What do they think is going to be the denoument?

    •  The objective is No Denouement Ever (3+ / 0-)
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      jazzmaniac, Khun David, whl

      The strategy is to keep ringing the meat bell to produce the Pavlovian response. Fox News goes DING and

      That's why Graham "cautioned" the BenGowdy Select Committee about "overreaching." The sooner they articulate specific accusations, the sooner those accusations can be addressed and debunked, letting the air out of the "scandal."

      This farce is being performed for people who give negative fucks about facts. Non-specific indignation is more than sufficient for them.

      Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

      by The Termite on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:30:10 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

    •  Facts.... (2+ / 0-)

      Obama hinted at terrorism the day after in tribute to those killed in Benghazi with his "acts of terror will not stand" statement.

      Susan Rice mentioned the video, but also mentioned the fact that it may have been coordinated by Al Qeada. As the NYT spelled out, there are still uncertainties today. She was right to be cautious on placing blame before "fog of war" dissipated. One could also make teh argument that you don't want to specifcally name who you think carried out the attack because it hurts your ability to find those terrorists because they will go underground immediately.

      No one mentions this, but several days after Rice's Sunday shows, the administration publically became even more bullish on the act being terrorism.

      Finally, a strike on 911 on US outpost is implicitly terrorism. It's almost a truism that need not be explained. I'm sure the President has said many times... are Republicans so dumb that it takes the President of the US to convince them that an attack is terrorism? Or, do they think I'm so idiotic that I'd try to hide the 911 Benghazi strike as a terrorism for 75 days before the election? It's such a dumb dumb issue, like Republicans complaining that the President took to long to call that attack terrorism.

  •  "Don't meme angry!" (7+ / 0-)

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:27:37 AM PDT

  •  The GOP obsession with "Benghazi" and #Benghazi (2+ / 0-)
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    has the effect of distracting people from Benghazi.

    A no-fly zone has been imposed over Libya's second city of Benghazi, the army has announced.

    The move follows clashes between a paramilitary force and Islamist militants which resulted in 43 deaths and more than 100 injuries.

    "Trust me... I've been right before." ~ Tea party patriot

    by Calvino Partigiani on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:28:26 AM PDT

  •  Yeah but.... (5+ / 0-)

    Jed Lewison ends his diary stating, "Nothing is going to come out exposing an Obama Benghazi conspiracy—because there wasn't one."  To which the right-winger responds--"No evidence is proof of the scale of the conspiracy."  It's a nice little insular world that have going there.

  •  Actually, there *is* a conspiracy... (5+ / 0-)
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    polecat, rocksout, Matt Z, JeffW, Los Diablo

    ...surrounding Benghazi.

    It has something to do with a coordinated effort on the ideological Right to damage and existing and possible future President.

    And it's 'deja vu all over again' because the same sort of witch hunt was done against a Dem president in the 90's.

    "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it or who has said it, even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."

    by grape crush on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:39:07 AM PDT

  •  Pretty sad that this is the only spaghetti they (6+ / 0-)
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    rocksout, BlueKS, Matt Z, JeffW, Los Diablo, whl

    could find to throw at the wall.

    And of course if you point out their culpability (deliberate lack of funding for the State Department) they'll stick their fingers in their respective ears and go "LA LA LA LA. I CAN'T HEAR YOU."

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:40:38 AM PDT

  •  Nothing to see here, but we in the GOP have ... (2+ / 0-)
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    whl, starduster

    ... very little else to see, either, so we must flog this Benghazi thing for everything it's worth ... to us!

    'S OK with us if there are no more answers; we will still have questions.

    2014 is HERE. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

    by TRPChicago on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:44:57 AM PDT

  •  Another Episode of "Dumb and Dumber" (1+ / 0-)
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    brought to you by: "DUMB and Dumber"!  

  •  Lindsey's Hate-Hate relationship with the far (1+ / 0-)
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    right gets curiouser and curiouser.

    •  Lindsey and Trey--squaring the circle (0+ / 0-)

      Lindsey Graham, Senator from South Carolina, is stirring the Benghazi pot.

      Trey Gowdy, House Representative from South Carolina, will be "prosecuting" President Obama in order to stir up the Benghazi pot. Many Republicans don't make a secret of the fact that they want this panel to lead to impeachment.

      A mere 15 years ago, it was Lindsey Graham, Congressional Rep. from South Carolina, who led the House hearings on Clinton's impeachment.

      It was a performance that thrust Graham into the spotlight and eventually into the Senate.

      Parallel plans?

      History is a guide, not a destination.

      by NCJan on Mon May 19, 2014 at 10:21:19 AM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  If they had any sense, the Libya policy over all (3+ / 0-)
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    would be their attack point. Libya is a god awful mess. Our intervention  has been a disaster and Clinton was its principal advocate. Of course, that means McCain and sidekick can't attack because they were supporters.

  •  Here's a sobering thought (2+ / 0-)
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    The idea that the absence of a conspiracy is proof that a REALLY big one exists was part of the rationale Lt. Gen. John DeWitt used to justify the internment of Japanese people, even Japanese Americans, on the West Coast during World War II.

    That's the new Republican party's rallying cry now.

    Seneca Falls, Selma, Stonewall

    by Dave in Northridge on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:50:55 AM PDT

  •  They haven't called for a (1+ / 0-)
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    special investigator yet.  I wonder why.

    The religious fanatics didn't buy the republican party because it was virtuous, they bought it because it was for sale

    by nupstateny on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:52:01 AM PDT

  •  Old news Jed (1+ / 0-)
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    all of fox news is recycled bullshit that just keeps going round and round.  The only it will not do is go down the drain like the rest of the crap, it just keeps swirling round and round.

  •  Republicans don't even believe in "BENGHAZI!!!" (1+ / 0-)
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    Not a one. Because that's not the point. As always...the point IS the "investigation". That's all they have who can blame them?

    "Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" - General Jack D. Ripper

    by wilder5121 on Mon May 19, 2014 at 08:55:23 AM PDT

  •  Lindsey Graham (2+ / 0-)
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    egarratt, whl

    didn't get those round lips by eating square meals.

  •  The Conspiracy is the Conspiracy (1+ / 0-)
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    I am finally coming around to understanding all of this. As we look at the conspiracy as a conspiracy then the conspirator's are certainly part of the conspiracy and have been masterful at keeping the conspiracy a conspiracy.

    And above all else, where was Kos on the night of Benghazi and is it true he does have the Kenyan birth certificate of a certain President...

  •  That pic (1+ / 0-)
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    That must have been one mighty fine mint julep.

    Sigline? What Sigline?

    by Khun David on Mon May 19, 2014 at 09:02:17 AM PDT

  •  Benghazzi was not "spun" (1+ / 0-)
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       Why didn't the administration simply explain later that they suspected it was terrorist, or they knew it was terrorists (if indeed they did) and that they believed by keeping that knowledge out of the media would allow them to perhaps catch the terrorists unawares.  I imagine we had a well enough connected network in the area that we would have eventually tracked these people down if they believed we thought it was a "spontaneous" demonstration.
         I certainly think far to many times we all clamor for instant info to the latest situation, when in reality those in charge, be they police, CIA or whoever would be more effective with a little fog around the avenues they are pursuing.  Sometimes getting the suspects face or description out there is a hindrance and not an aid.
    charles a. bowsher

    •  Point made above.... (0+ / 0-)

      Maybe because an attack on US outpost in dangerous part of the world is implicity terrorism. This is why it was not an issue under Bush. We all know that almost every attack on US in other countries is terrorism. Even Maddow had report the night after the attack on the terrorism angle. It was a truism that in normal circumstances does not need to be explained asap.

    •  They had an election 3 weeks away, (0+ / 0-)

      that's why.

      There was enough confusion about all the different attacks and certainly some of them were driven by the anti-Islam video.  

      The admin chose to obfuscate because it was politically convenient to do so.  That is quite understandable.

      Where I think they erred, however, is trying to keep it all secret when it was apparent to everyone within a month what they had done in the first week after the attack.

      And, as far as tracking the terrorists down, they still have no one, and don't seem very interested in getting anyone.

  •  A Great Way To Waist Time and the Tax Payers $$$ (1+ / 0-)
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    If I wanted to stall things in Washington. Prevent certain events from happening, stall on votes, and all other new Government business that just might make things better for the Average American citizen, but would also boost the Presidents ratings and every democrat in Washington DC.  
    I can't think of a better way then to continue to hold hearings and carry on a obviously dead non investigation into a false theory of a conspiracy within the current administration in which the president was the top Conspirator!!!    And time moves on, ABSOLUTLY NOTHING gets done. The presidents last term ends.  And there you have it.  The republicans then take the stand of "look at what President Obama, a Democratic president didn't accomplish while in office.  Look at all the false promises made by the Democrats.  Do you really want ANOTHER democrat in office as president.  And that will be what the next republic candidate will use as a basis for why Americans should vote a republic president in office.  a candidate such as Jeb Bush!!!   MARK my words this is exactly what is happening when it comes to these hearings regarding how the events took place in Benghazi,  These republican really don't give a rat's ass about Benghazi, what they care about is making the president and his current administration look bad.  And that is all there is to these hearings.  

  •  That's basic conspiracy theory (0+ / 0-)

    The lack of evidence is proof the evidence is being covered up, which thereby proves the conspiracy. I suppose that's why Republicans focus so hard on finding a cover up of just something, anything.

  •  Terrorism Dumbed-Down (0+ / 0-)

    Regardless what the White House has said, I have never bought into the idea that this was terrorism.  It was an assault by a militia group, motivated by vague anti-U.S. Feelings.  Nobody has ever taken credit or stated an objective for which they might "terrorize" us to achieve it.  If the same sort of attack was made against us in any non-Muslim country, it would just be called an assault and a crime.

  •  If I ended up on Fox... it would not be (0+ / 0-)

    Groundhog Day... it would be Hell Week or a Survivor Reality show.   I annoy people who think they are right and lie to cover up over and over.. I annoy them to the point of reaaaaaaaallly getting upset.  everyone on Fox would look like this probably...

    Just how much Koch do Right Wingers want in their life? . United Veterans of America

    by Vetwife on Mon May 19, 2014 at 11:29:55 AM PDT

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