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Michigan Republican Senate candidate Terri Lynn Land
The 2012 Republican platform didn't include exceptions for rape or incest in its opposition to abortion. That's not something most top Republican candidates for office like to remind voters—such an extreme position doesn't play well—but the fact is, it's a position many of those candidates share. Take Michigan's Terri Lynn Land. Greg Sargent offers a reminder of what Land's endorsement by Right to Life of Michigan means:
David Malone, the executive director of the Michigan Right to Life PAC, tells me that no legislative candidate gets this endorsement unless he or she is “pro-life with no exceptions other than the life of the mother,” and unless he or she agrees to a “Human Life Amendment to the U.S.  Constitution, effectively establishing personhood from the moment of  conception.”

This language is detailed in the PAC’s endorsement criteria, which also require the candidate filling out a questionnaire detailing these positions.

This is something Land should be made to talk about. A lot. Personhood measures don't fare so well: Mississippi voters rejected one in 2012. Mississippi. Personhood bills also failed in the legislatures of Montana, North Dakota, and Oklahoma in 2011. Voters should know where Terri Lynn Land stands on this issue.

For that matter, if Land is happy to put herself on the record about this issue when it comes to getting an endorsement from Right to Life of Michigan, she should be happy to talk to voters about it every time she's out campaigning. Right? I mean, this is an endorsement she coveted enough to not make even a polite gesture at distancing herself from Right to Life of Michigan when it attacked the teenage daughters of her Democratic opponent. She should let that personhood, no exceptions for rape or incest flag fly far and wide.

Originally posted to Laura Clawson on Tue May 20, 2014 at 06:14 AM PDT.

Also republished by This Week in the War on Women and Daily Kos.

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  •  people like Land are one of the main (20+ / 0-)

    reasons victims struggle with becoming survivors.

    people like Land like to stand in judgement of rape and incest victims.  

    people like Land protect the rights of the rapist and they continue to assault the rights of the actual victim and they generally do more harm by accusing and attacking the victim.

    people like Land have no business being in any part of a private decision a victim makes.

    Land is a Rapepublican.  Pure and simple.  

    Land is exactly the kind of woman who prevents other women from getting justice or just getting help.  

    Land is pro-rape.  Land is pro-rapist.  And yes women can very much be anti-women.  Land is a walking, talking example of the sheer hatred some women have against women who have been stalked, hunted, assaulted and raped.

    We need to prevent people like Land from ever being part of the problem since they refuse to part of the solution.

    "Love One Another" ~ George Harrison

    by Damnit Janet on Tue May 20, 2014 at 06:46:57 AM PDT

    •  She obviously needs professional help. (1+ / 0-)
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      I suspect women like Land were raised by domineering, abusive fathers.

      Republican Health Care Plan: marry a Canadian.

      by shoeless on Tue May 20, 2014 at 09:07:46 AM PDT

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    •  "Life of the mother" (3+ / 0-)

      EVERY pregnancy carries with it the risk that the mother may die. Every last one. So how do you decide what is the allowable level of risk? Is a woman with a 10% chance of dying allowed to have an abortion, but one with "only" a 5% chance of death not allowed one? Who tells her that she has to accept her 1-in-20 chance of death?

      And if the life of a fetus is so precious, why is it any less precious just because his/her father was a rapist?  If it's moral to abort a baby because his/her father was a rapist, why is it not moral to abort a baby who will be born with severe birth defects promising only a short, brutal, painful life and early death?

      It's all nonsense.

      •  Why is it that fetal life (8+ / 0-)

        is so valuable to some, especially those who advocate "small government," but the lives of babies, once born, or their mothers, who may be poor, do not count? The right wing loves fetal life, but wants to deny needed safety nets to poor mothers and their children who have been born. The Lands, Santorums, and other RWNJs should not try to practice medicine, it is illegal to practice medicine without a license.  Decisions regarding health care belong with doctors and their patients, not with legislators or prospective legislators and patients.

      •  Nonsense? (3+ / 0-)

        So is this snark or are you genuinely questioning abortion altogether?

        Yes, pregnancy carries risk.  That's why ending a pregnancy is best left to a woman and her doctor.

        Personally, I believe a fetus whose father was a rapist  isn't as "precious."  I don't think I would want to bring a rapist DNA into the world.  I also think it's perfectly "moral" to abort a baby whose defects would give a painful and brutal existence to that fetus if allowed to become a baby.

        But that's just me.

        •  Hey, You! (1+ / 0-)
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          Again, we agree.  "Rapist DNA" has always been a big concern of mine.  Scientists are finding genetic markers for many traits so, why not this?  

          Our son has an interview in A2 tomorrow.  It's only a contract job, but we are hoping SO much for this to be a start.

          Hope you're well and have some fun plans for the weekend, which looks to be pretty darn nice in MI.

          Enjoying the Age of Aquarius so far?

          by sendtheasteroid on Thu May 22, 2014 at 07:02:02 PM PDT

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          •  Good luck to your son! (0+ / 0-)

            A2 is a wonderful place to live and work!  I hope he has success and it's a great start for him.

            Our son's birthday tomorrow, so will be celebrating this weekend.  Weather has finally gotten warm, but it's probably not as nice as Hawaii.  :-)

            •  Mahalo (1+ / 0-)
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              Thanks for the good wishes for our son.  He's had his interview by now, so I'm just waiting for an email telling me how he felt it went.  He loves the A2/Ypsi area and has many friends there.  This would be perfect for him, but I'm keeping my hopes below the wildly optimistic level.  Later, he'll be heading to Oscoda with one of those friends and his family.

              We're in a Kona weather pattern, which means winds from the southeast rather than the normal trades from the northwest.  That means VOG (volcanic smog) and humidity.  Luckily, we're far enough from The Big Island not to get the worst of the VOG but enough to cause more sneezing than usual. People with respiratory problems have a rough time with it.

              Hau'oli la Hanau to your son!  Have a great weekend!  

              Enjoying the Age of Aquarius so far?

              by sendtheasteroid on Fri May 23, 2014 at 12:04:13 PM PDT

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              •  Mahalo nui loa (0+ / 0-)

                I'm looking forward to hearing that your son got his job in AA!  And I didn't realize Hawaii ever got smog or even a lot of humidity.  I would imagine it doesn't last long, though, in Paradise.  :-)

                •  Have a Great Weekend (1+ / 0-)
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                  You're having better weather than we are.  We had t-storms both Thurs and Fri.  They're not violent like on the mainland, but they sure dump a lot of water in a short time.  I'm afraid the Wailua River has dumped a lot of dirty water and wood into our snorkeling pond.  More rain coming, I think, so no use going down to see just yet.

                  Our son isn't too optimistic about the job.  The interview with the first two guys went well, but the third looked at his writing sample and found a mistake.  Steve's, of course, kicking himself for not catching it in his many proofreads, but what can ya do?  He thinks it would be a very high-pressure job, which he's not sure he wants to get into again, anyway.  He'll take it, if he's offered it, of course.  Mahalo for the good wishes, and now we wait.

                  It can be humid here when the sun comes out after rain and if there's no wind.  Usually there's enough breeze that the humidity doesn't bother us.  VOG is always a problem on The Big Island, but only makes it here when the winds are in the wrong direction.  We're the farthest away so have the least problem with it.

                  Enjoy your lovely weather, and I'll keep you posted on the job---however it turns out.

                  Aloha,  Chris

                  Enjoying the Age of Aquarius so far?

                  by sendtheasteroid on Sat May 24, 2014 at 11:47:59 AM PDT

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                  •  Thanks! (1+ / 0-)
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                    It's getting a bit hot for me now---in the 80's, but I know I'm weird that way.  :-)

                    I see which island you're on, and I've been there--many years ago. It is absolutely beautiful!  You must feel joy every morning when you wake up in that place.

                    You didn't say what kind of job your son is contracting for, but I used to teach MBAs to write at the University of Michigan Ross School of Business, so if I can ever be of help, I would be happy to look at any writing and give some feedback.  That is, if we could figure out how to do it.  :-)

                    If your son doesn't get this job, there will be another better one.  My husband was out of work twice when our kids were growing up, and though it's scary, it usually works out fine.  Two of our three sons have been out of work as well, and things have always worked out eventually.

                    Cheers,
                    Jane

                    •  80s without a Lake (1+ / 0-)
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                      to jump into IS hot.  I never knew that until I moved here and only have a hose to shower myself with to cool down. I wear a swimsuit under an old t-shirt, while I work in the yard, and just hose myself down when I start to sweat.  Gotta lean to cope, since I left the lake behind.

                      It's very beautiful here and a happy place to wake up every morning.  We don't have a view from our house (unless you count my over-grown garden), but, pulling out of our subdivision, I look toward the mountains to check for traffic and sit there staring at ribbon waterfalls.  I almost forget to get moving again!

                      Our son's a technical writer, and this job is to develop a technical writing dept.  He's never done anything like this before----he normally just gets hired to write.  I really appreciate your offer of help, but I think this was a technical mistake, if I understood him correctly.  It sounded like he had a link to another page, and the link didn't work.  One of those ARGHH! moments in life.  His friend, who works there, says the first two guys he talked to were the most important ones anyway and he will keep on pushing to get Steve the job.

                       You know, I wish Steve had gone into teaching at the college level like you did.  He's mentioned regretting that, too.  Maybe he still could end up back in academia.  One can hope!

                      A big MAHALO for your offer of help and the pep talk. I will pass it on to Steve.  You're a lovely person, Jane, and I'm very happy to have connected with you here at Kos.

                      Aloha nui loa,
                      Chris

                      Enjoying the Age of Aquarius so far?

                      by sendtheasteroid on Sat May 24, 2014 at 09:50:11 PM PDT

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                      •  I feel the same! (0+ / 0-)

                        I thought maybe the job was a technical writing one.  That's one of the major areas of writing, even for MBAs, and there's a lot of research there.  Also, there's a lot going on in AA with new tech companies that are hiring these days.  

                        Your son, if he finds something to support himself writing, could get into Michigan's graduate school and end up in academia.  I highly recommend it!  It's fun to teach university students (for the most part, LOL) and you get lots of time to keep on learning, e.g. doing research.  My area of specific expertise is/was intercultural communication.  I still miss the whole thing even though I retired several years ago.

                        Enjoy your wonderful island paradise, and I'll try to live through this humid, midwestern summer.  :-)

                        •  Aloha, Jane (1+ / 0-)
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                          We're sisters from other mothers, I think.  

                          Steve has a Master's.  Does he need more to get into teaching on the college level?  He'd enjoy teaching, and I'm sure he'd be good at it because his experience is in writing manuals---and what's a manual if not a teaching resource?  He'd enjoy being at either Eastern or U of M.  If he gets the contract job and it doesn't lead to full time, maybe he'll head back to college, in one way or another.

                          I can imagine you miss your profession.  That is a very interesting specialty.  Since I loved learning other languages, I can easily identify with your subject.

                           Where were those interesting majors when I was in college?  I was watching a documentary on the Caribbean (underwater earthquakes and eruptions), and there was a young woman on board who was a specialist in deep ocean ecology.  Holy Dooley, another major I would've loved.  Oh well, wish they'd been around in my day but wouldn't want to be young in this day and age!

                          You had a nicer weekend than we did.  We had t-storms (slow-moving and non-violent) every day from Fri through Sun.  There were flash flood warnings on O'ahu!  It's not always Paradise here.

                          Will keep you posted on Steve's saga.

                          Mahalo for your advice and input (or is that redundant?),
                          Chris

                          Enjoying the Age of Aquarius so far?

                          by sendtheasteroid on Tue May 27, 2014 at 08:50:27 PM PDT

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                          •  Yes! I like that "sisters' from other mothers. (0+ / 0-)

                            I hope your son has had good news by now.  Regarding teaching, if he would like to go for a tenured professorship in a major university, he would need to get a Ph.D.  However, having said that, I know that virtually all universities have writing programs with lots of non-tenured people teaching writing skills.  And technical writing skills is VERY HIGH on the "need" list.  Technical writing is pervasive in the market (everything from writing instructions for products to writing on technology), and colleges and universities everywhere need people who can teach that.

                            The University of Michigan has this kind of need both in the liberal arts college and in the business school where I taught. There's a research journal called "Journal of Business and Technical Writing" that has lots of articles that show all the issues that are considered important. Finally, I know at UM, your son could support himself teaching technical writing WHILE getting a Ph.D. if he wanted to do that.

                            If your son ends up in AA, you could come and visit!  And we could get together!  

                            It's cool again here, I like that.  Sunny and in the 60's.  I'm looking forward to the weekend.  Hope you have a good one too.  :-)

    •  Fetuses have a right to life, (8+ / 0-)

      but babies and their mothers don't, in the Republican value system.

      Warren/Grayson 2016! Yes We Can!

      by BenFranklin99 on Wed May 21, 2014 at 02:21:47 AM PDT

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    •  Great post, Damnit. (3+ / 0-)

      It encompasses much more than Ms. Land. In fact, you could substitute her name with any other Bagger and it would fit. Louie Gohmert, for instance. Pete King.  Scot Walker. Gov Perry. Michelle Bachmann. Et alia
      And I cannot give you a numerical +, but you get one 'undercover' from me anyway.

    •  Very well-stated. (3+ / 0-)

      Land is everything you've posted here and more.  She is one of the worst examples of those who carry on the war against women, against the poor, against the gay, and against all minorities.

      And, of course, she has Koch money paying for lots of TV ads.  The only mitigating factor is that virtually all the ads so far have ranged from ineffective to amusingly ridiculous.

  •  have to wonder what constitutes (15+ / 0-)

    "life of the mother" since medicine is frequently not a science of absolutes but of degrees.  For example, if a woman could possibly carry a damaged fetus to term but would suffer permanent damage herself, such as kidney failure, would that count?  Or would permanent brain damage be considered?

    From my reading of Lifers' tracts, it seems to me that the only abortions which would be allowed would be those few which are clearly a threat to the life of the mother such as a moribund fetus with a threat of septicemia for the mother.  Other cases, such as those resulting in permanent damage to the mother would not be permitted or even cases, such as anencephaly where the fetus has no chance of survival, the mother would be required to carry it to term, only to have to watch it die.

    The problem with the GOP platform is it assumes medicine is yes or no when it is rarely so clear cut.  I think that GOP candidates should be confronted on the different scenarios and if they would support abortion under those circumstances.  I think the public would be much less tolerant of them once their ideological extremism is exposed  

  •  Tax laws and abortion laws are for little people (8+ / 0-)

    Republicans can reincorporate their business in the Cayman Islands.

    And Republican women who need abortions will just go to Canada, Mexico or the Caribbean.

    "states like VT and ID are not 'real america'" -icemilkcoffee

    by Utahrd on Tue May 20, 2014 at 08:26:21 AM PDT

    •  I think that's key. Nobody whose family (2+ / 0-)
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      includes a state representative is without the wherewithal to take a trip to New York or California for an abortion.  It's only those bad people, those animals, who have to pay for their sex, not the good girls from good families.

      Schedule permitting, PROOF WILL BE PROVIDED ON HOW I AM BEING "CONSTANTLY CALLED OUT" AND "UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED" FOR BEING BAD. Moreover, the dossier on my activities during the Bush administration will have an appendix concluding that I am Wrong.

      by Inland on Tue May 20, 2014 at 08:59:32 AM PDT

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  •  I am sure Miss 'pro-life no exceptions' would find (3+ / 0-)
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    an exception if someone tried to nurse a baby in her presence.

    Pro-life, from womb to bathroom. Boobies make me giggle.

  •  But she's a woman (3+ / 0-)
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    And no woman has ever done anything to harm women.

    (Now if I could only keep a straight face, dammit.)

  •  Terri Lynn Land promotional material. (5+ / 0-)

    Not only should Terri Lynn Land be broadcasting loudly and clearly her official position on Personhood measures, she should be handing out T-shirts at her public appearances:

    Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

    by notKeith on Tue May 20, 2014 at 08:43:34 AM PDT

  •  The arguments for "personhood" of a zygote, (6+ / 0-)

    or fetus, based as they are upon the word, "life", are, to say the least, ridiculous.  But then again, good sense, and reason, have never been priorities among the superstitiously ignorant and arrogantly stubbornly stupid religionists.

    A SPERM CELL is alive; i.e., has "life" as a basic attribute.  So, too, an OVUM - "egg" in common English - is also alive; i.e., has "life" as a basic attribute.  The union of these two LIVING entities produces a ZYGOTE, which then, over the course of some 9 months in human beings, HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME a human baby.  

    Along the way, the Zygote, has the potential of becoming a fetus, and growing accordingly.  It also has several other potentials as well.  It can "spontaneously abort" - i.e., not adhere to the womb, and be expelled accordingly.  it can become an "ectopic pregnancy" - i.e., adhere outside the womb, and begin development, thus endangering the life of the mother.  It can cease to live, becoming another danger to the life of the mother, by way of infection.  And, of course, it also has the potential of being seriously defective in development as well.

    At NO TIME in the whole of the process do these developing cell structures exhibit sentience, choice, or any of the other elements of "personhood".  And the ridiculousness of trying to claim such status merely goes to further indicate the level of superstitious ignorance and arrogantly stubborn stupidity inherent in whatever one of the belief-systems/religions that make such claim.

    LIFE, in and of itself, is a part of the whole process, right from the beginning.  However, LIFE, in and of itself, IS NOT "personhood".

  •  Agreed, (2+ / 0-)
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    and there should be a Democratic contingent at every place she speaks, asking her about it loudly...MAKE her talk about it.

    "Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell." ~ Edward Abbey

    by SaraBeth on Tue May 20, 2014 at 08:51:21 AM PDT

  •  It's the curse of off year elections, IMO; (0+ / 0-)

    nobody's really watching so nobody notices how little the GOP candidates say outside of carefully controlled conservative groups.

    Schedule permitting, PROOF WILL BE PROVIDED ON HOW I AM BEING "CONSTANTLY CALLED OUT" AND "UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED" FOR BEING BAD. Moreover, the dossier on my activities during the Bush administration will have an appendix concluding that I am Wrong.

    by Inland on Tue May 20, 2014 at 08:56:35 AM PDT

  •  Yeah, right (3+ / 0-)
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    Good luck getting Land to talk about anything in public. We here in Michigan haven't had any luck whatsoever.

    "Back off, man. I'm a scientist."
    -- Dr. Peter Venkman


    Join me, LOLGOP, Anne Savage, Amy Lynn Smith, & Emma White at Eclectablog.

    by Eclectablog on Tue May 20, 2014 at 09:00:44 AM PDT

  •  What's with the blue boxes? (0+ / 0-)

    I always see blue campaign signs, which show, either no party affliation, or Republican in tiny letters at the bottom. Many times I don't find out they are Republicans until I get to the polls.

    Republican Health Care Plan: marry a Canadian.

    by shoeless on Tue May 20, 2014 at 09:04:00 AM PDT

  •  Who's gonna make her talk about it? (3+ / 0-)
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    The MI press?  The national media? The Democrats?  She'll ignore them all and give a word salad response to any questions about it, or she'll overtly lie. She learned well from rick snyder. Publicans win by either calling themselves moderate and sticking to it no matter what the evidence shows (rightly assuming no one cares what the hell they say) or overtly lying whenever they open their mouth (then ignoring the reaction to their lies).

    Maybe being endorsed by rtl will be too much for her to get by, but I hold no illusion that anyone will ask her about it or that she'll give a substantive answer to anyone who does ask.  I seriously doubt that'll happen.

    A learning experience is one of those things that says, 'You know that thing you just did? Don't do that.' Douglas Adams

    by dougymi on Tue May 20, 2014 at 09:09:48 AM PDT

  •  I invite Ms. Landt to visit Psyc ward in her town (0+ / 0-)

    and talk to the young women patients. She will find the majority of them are there because of abuse by their fathers, grand dads or Mother's boyfriend's sexual mistreatment of them from the time they were little girls. This candidate has no understanding of what damage sexual abuse does for women and now she wants to escalate this abuse by restricting abortion to abuse victims. I'm not a nurse, but have worked as a tutor to girls in psyc hospitals and I know of what I'm speaking.

    Let's call Ms. Land's position for what it really is: pro-rapist.

  •  Her shiny new TV ad has at its central theme.. (1+ / 0-)
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    a easily debunkable claim that Obamacare has turned the U.S. into a part-time economy.  Number one, the ACA should have nothing but a negligible impact if any on employment because of the postponement of the employer mandate until 2015.  On top of that, since the ACA was enacted, the actual rate of part-time employment for economic reasons rather than by choice has declined and at a rate that also out strips part-time by choice employment according to BLS data.  

  •  Land and all her GOP buddies are turning our state (2+ / 0-)
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    into Michissippi - and their "small government" programs are in our bedrooms and lives whether it be anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion, anti-sex education, anti-birth control, anti-healthcare, anti-everthing except guns.

    Gravitation cannot be held responsible for people falling in love. - Einstein

    by moose67 on Tue May 20, 2014 at 11:38:07 AM PDT

  •  When you can't win on ideas, this is what you do. (1+ / 0-)
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    New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

    by AlexDrew on Tue May 20, 2014 at 11:52:41 AM PDT

  •  Let this woman keep on talking (2+ / 0-)
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    because the more that she rants about "personhood" "rape" and other matters the less intelligent she sounds. She is obviously over the age of being able to become pregnant, so she, like men, should not weigh in on this issue. It does not affect them. Does she have daughters? If so, what if one her daughters was raped? Would she side with the rapist? Would she try to stop her daughter from terminating a pregnancy resulting from rape, or due to some other reason? This woman will be a complete turn off to any thinking female or male who loves a woman. She and Santorum should run off into the sunset together.

  •  Terri Lynn Land. (0+ / 0-)

    I wonder how Ms. Land would feel if she were a victim of rape that resulted in her becoming pregnant.

    Would she then change her mind.  I hope for her sake she never has to make that decision.

    •  Land and rape (0+ / 0-)

      If what you suggest ever happened to Terri Land, she would absolutely NOT equate her experience with that of others.  She would get an abortion faster than the weather changes here in Michigan, but she would still be against anyone else getting one.

      Rules are not for republicans, only for the poor, the minorities, and for democrats.

  •  The gNOp cannot and does not even take (3+ / 0-)

    care of people OUT of the womb, yet they want "personhood" 4 fetuses? That is some effing jive, if you ask me.

  •  DUM (1+ / 0-)
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    http://terrilynnland.com/

    Oh my. She's our Secretary of State. The leading quote on her campaign home page should be sufficient for most to discern that this is a pretty low watt bulb.

    Can't communicate. Can't form an educated opinion of her own accord. Seems perfect Senate material to me!

  •  Watch out (1+ / 0-)
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    The Republiclown votership in Michigan IS stupider than that of Mississippi, and those other states. These Republiclowns fall for any crap a Rethuglican politician spews. They don't have an entire brain between ALL of them. In a state where unions brought wealth and prosperity to the vast majority of its citizens, these dinkwads voted down enshrining those rights into the state constitution. And then the Koch brothers Silver haired pimp, and the Rethuglicans in the shithouse and the Senbutt enact Michigan as a "Right to work for less state". I'm sure the Kock brothers were salivating all over each other. Land is your typical misguided Rethuglican idiot. Bad for everyone but the wealthy and the religious nutbags. Just remember- There are NO independent thinkers in the Rethuglican party. GOP stands for Group of Putz.

  •  Join Me and Carry the Protests to Her! (0+ / 0-)

    I just posted the following comments on Terri Lynn Land's campaign Web site.  They are "awaiting moderation," will probably never see light of day there.  But what the heck, let her and her campaign staff know they're ticking people off:

    "All women deserve opportunity and less interference from Washington so they can chart their own path," you say, yet you have pledged to push for a "right to life" policy that offers NO exceptions for rape or incest? You think women can chart their own paths after they've been forced to get pregnant by some criminal? And what about the "life in danger" exception, is a woman going to have to go to court to convince a possibly anti-science judge that her life is really in danger before getting permission to end a pregnancy, during which SLOW court proceedings she could die, or are you and your ilk going to trust a woman and her doctor to make the decision that is best for her health? Pregnancy is always more risky than a competent termination. Where are you going to draw the line?

    And if you are going to lower taxes and lower the size and debt of the federal government, what programs are you going to cut to get there? Are you going to allow children or the elderly to starve or go without medical care? And if you are going to join with those who waste time to vote to defund ObamaCare AGAIN, do you have something to put in its place, or are you going to let insurance companies go back to denying affordable coverage for those with pre-existing medical conditions?

    Wow, you sound a lot like one of those heartless hateful male tea baggers. Do you think the female Republican brain is just as lacking in empathy as the male, for those weaker than you or in more dire circumstances?

    You have some good ideas, but they are drowned out by the party-line bad ones. Don't just talk about what you'll tear down. Talk about what you're going to put in its place. Figure that out first. And for heaven's sake, tell the "right to life" crowd that you are rejecting their endorsement and you are going to encourage raped women to end their unwanted pregnancies without guilt if they so choose.

  •  Is Lynn everyone's middle name in MI? (0+ / 0-)

    Robert Lynn Asprin, Jody Lynn Nye, Terri Lynn Land...

  •  Exception for life of mother (0+ / 0-)

    "...

    no exceptions other than the life of the mother,”
    There are some legislators that take this out of the hands of the doctor.  Even though the woman has no mental disability. it's her "next of kin" that decides whether the choice is the mother's life or fetus' life that should be saved.  All control over her life and body has been hijacked by a legislator.

    I remember in Catholic school the nuns telling us that if a medical emergency occurs during birth that the life of the baby takes precedence over the mom's life.  I was in the 6th grade and told the nun "This makes no sense at all!  What will happen to her other children(now mother-less) or her husband (now a widower)?"

    Like many other "lapsed Catholics" I am now an atheist.  God and religion do not deal with a real world in my opinion.

    What ever happened to "separation of church and state as explained by Thomas Jefferson after the constitution was written.  He was clarifying the First Amendment.  We all have allowed evangelicals to steal our country..

  •  abortions etc ! (0+ / 0-)

    what the masses fail to understand is that the Republicans are deliberately ginning up hysteria on several subjects, abortion included, which is their way of getting control of the story and moving low-information people into their camp. They only care about votes, they get these voters to vote them into power and then they create all sorts of rules that basically take away the rights of all low-information, low-intelligence folks, who have no clue what is being done to them. They just parrot what they are being taught !

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