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The king of gibberish.
Michelle Nunn, Georgia's Democratic Senate candidate, is getting a lot of national attention for a less than articulate discussion of Obamacare and whether she would have voted for the law had she been in the Senate when it was passed. Her answer was muddled, but in the long form—the parts that didn't make it in the video cut that has received so much attention—Nunn talks about what really matters with Obamacare which is where we go from here. And as Greg Sargent points out, that's a lot more than we're getting from Republican Senate candidates, who just offer "gibberish" on Obamacare, and are getting away with it.
Local media have been pressing GOP Senate candidates in states where versions of the Medicaid expansion are moving forward to answer a simple question: For or against? In Arkansas, David Ramsey can only get word salad from Tom Cotton. In Michigan, local reporters can’t get anything clear out of Terri Lynn Land. And the Boston Globe (more of a national outlet) been unable to get an answer from New Hampshire candidate Scott Brown. In North Carolina, Thom Tillis’ stance on repeal is comically incoherent. […]

[S]urely this merits a peek from top-shelf commentator and media types, anyway. The GOP party-wide position for years has been that the ACA is an epic disaster that defines the entire Obama presidency as an irrevocable failure. Republican officials confidently predict Obamacare’s unpopularity will flip control of the Senate in a massive repudiation of the President’s signature domestic accomplishment. Yet multiple GOP candidates in top-tier races are unwilling or unable to take a real position on one of the central pillars of the law, one that will impact tens or hundreds of thousands in the states they’d represent. Brown’s entire rationale for running is that Obamacare is awful, but he can’t answer the most basic questions about health care without dissolving into complete gibberish. Does that matter?

It absolutely matters. It matters because what's at stake is health care for as many as 27 million Americans and these people who would be senators have nothing to offer them beyond repeal. It matters because as many as 5 million Americans are still being locked out of health care because they fall in the Medicaid gap, and these candidates have nothing to offer them, either. It matters because health care is sort of a big fucking policy deal and it would be kind of nice if the people running for office, trying to put themselves in the position of making that policy, knew what in the hell they're talking about.

Lately, the bar for Republican candidates for higher office has been set laughably low. The national media hasn't just allowed that, it's encouraged it because the tea party story has just been too damned much fun for them. It's about time they ended that tea party.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Tue May 20, 2014 at 08:41 AM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (38+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Tue May 20, 2014 at 08:41:41 AM PDT

  •  Tipped & rec'ed (5+ / 0-)

    I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

    by a2nite on Tue May 20, 2014 at 08:56:55 AM PDT

  •  IOKIYAR (6+ / 0-)

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Tue May 20, 2014 at 08:57:34 AM PDT

    •  Republicans rule the world as far as the media is (8+ / 0-)

      concerned. If Republicans come out tomorrow for slaughtering baby kittens the Democrats would be attacked for not doing anything to protect baby kittens.....

      •  Any new softball questions? (4+ / 0-)
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        Ken in MN, hnichols, NedSparks, tipring

        When will David Gregory ask someone from the GOP, "What has been worse, Obamacare on Benghazi, and please take five minutes to explain yourself. I'll just sit back and listen."

        "People should not be afraid of their government; governments should be afraid of their people." --V

        by MikeTheLiberal on Tue May 20, 2014 at 01:20:58 PM PDT

        [ Parent ]

      •  What would happen is... (3+ / 0-)
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        hnichols, Ellamenta, NedSparks

        ...Democrats would come out strongly against slaughtering kittens.  Then the Corporate Owned News would condemn the Democrats for being so rigid, demanding that they compromise with the Republican'ts in the spirit of bipartisanship, pointing out repeatedly how "Washington is broken."   So after the Corporate Owned Democrats broker a compromise, agreeing to limit the slaughter to "only" 90% of what Republican'ts wanted to slaughter, the Corporate Owned News would then condemn Democrats for allowing the slaughter of baby kittens, and then make lots of money continuously running ads by Republican'ts condemning Democrats for allowing the slaughter of baby kittens, while failing to point out that it was the Republican'ts idea to begin with, and their demands for bipartisan compromise that enabled it...

  •  my theory (4+ / 0-)

    Here is my grand theory of the double standard in politics where one side gets to be stupid (conservatives) and the other is dinged if not an A+ (liberals)....

    Everyone understands that all the conservatives are just trying to maintain the current power structure. protestant white guys on top. Everyone gets that. That is why all their crazy theories are not questioned because we are all reverential of power and can't figure out challenging it.

    Part of the reason is that we all know that the traditional power structure "works". It feeds people (not all people of course).

    Any new structure or relationship has to be justified as what it is .. a new structure.

    If I am an abusive husband who provides food and shelter. We all know what I offer. I don't need to give an explanation to the wife.

    If I run a shelter and want to get the wife out of the situation then I have to give her details about what the shelter will be like. She wants to make sure its better. She is scared to leave what she knows.

    •  We aren't all reverential of power. (1+ / 0-)
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      hnichols

      Power and wealth don't impress me. Show me how you made life better for somebody besides yourself and your loved ones. That impresses me.
      I grew up with rich "cousins"- kids for whom my grandmother was a nanny/2nd mom. They were down to earth and very nice people. Some of their friends and relatives from the other side, not so much.
      When I was exposed to these snobs, it didn't take them long to realize I wasn't going along with their superiority. They didn't like me much, but they didn't look down on me either.

      Aside from that, we Liberals do deal with a double standard. We're expected to be the more intelligent. We're also expected to be the more decadent, that is, in the eyes of the self-righteous Right, who closet their little proclivities and pretend to be paragons of virtue. That's why their scandals are so much more delightful than ours. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
      IOKIYAC. It's Okay If You Are Conservative. They get a pass on stuff we don't because, heck, they're just such doggone good folks. And it's easier to forgive a paragon than it is a dirty hippie pinko fag.

      "Non-violence is a powerful and just weapon which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

      by Gentle Giant on Tue May 20, 2014 at 01:29:38 PM PDT

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      •  scared of rich people (1+ / 0-)
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        Gentle Giant

        But  you are probably the exception. Most of us are scared of rich people. If I meet Bill Gates I will get excited.  I will be super nice.

        If I meet Chuck Gates from Peoria IL I don't care about  the guy. I'd probably shove him out of my way to get where I am going (I live in NYC)

  •  Well, that's a good question but why (2+ / 0-)
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    hnichols, Rikon Snow

    can't Nunn give a non-muddled answer?

    Example:

    I would have voted for it because it's better than what we had.

    Is it really that hard?

    •  She gave an articulate and nuanced answer. (1+ / 0-)
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      hnichols

      She has to learn . . . lead with the soundbite, because no one will ever hear the rest of what you say.

      Once you put convenient, lethal force in the mix, liberty becomes a zero sum game. -- DIgby on open carry.

      by Rikon Snow on Tue May 20, 2014 at 01:33:11 PM PDT

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  •  Love the word, "gibberish". (1+ / 0-)
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    hnichols

    I propose we use it as frequently as Republicans use Benghazi.

    Even better, Republican Gibberish.

  •  It's very simple (3+ / 0-)
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    tampaedski, hnichols, BarackStarObama

    Scott Brown is for it if it's called RomneyCare and against it if it's called ObamaCare.

    "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is." - George W Bush

    by jfern on Tue May 20, 2014 at 01:54:23 PM PDT

  •  I wonder (0+ / 0-)

    what would happen if we just stopped paying for all these computers that limit health, decide who gets what health care, and just put the money into health care.  Why are the taxpayers building computer networks for the ACA, computer networks for the VA, and who knows how much the private sector has spent decided who is entitled to what.

    Would it not be better to just say anyone can go to the doctor, and the doctor can send them to the hospital, and the hospital will do it's best to fix it?  The VA has clearly failed at providing health care to the military, not because it is doing a bad job, but because certain benifits are limited to certain people, and the system is so ludicrously complex that no one can manage it.

    Likewise, the insurance companies has created an system of Rube Goldberg proportions(read about him and the satire he was doing), so they extort huge fees for managing the self propagating fiasco.

    Now, I know we will still need systems in place to manage the health care, and we will still have waiting lists and lines.  But at least we won't be wasting money on computers to decide who does not get care.  At least we can decide how much something should cost, and if people want to pay more, fine, but there is no reason that we should pay 10 times as much for a medical device that it would cost in Europe.

    Really, the only thing we get from the current system is 27 million Americans who can't get health care, and many veterans who should but really don't.

  •  James Lankford has an answer (0+ / 0-)

    He who would replace the evil Tom Coburn runs endless TV commercials decrying the fact that "you can't keep your doctors and the government will make all your health care decisions for you" apparently because the government just loves taking away your freedumb. Of course if the government requires raping women with a blunt instrument that is not taking away any freedom at all.

    Every time these asinine commercials come on I want to throw something at the TV. He is telling bald faced lies for the sole purpose of scaring people into voting for him. And then he thumps his bible and proclaims himself the very epitome of a Christian.

    Every time I see Lankford and the assholes just like him I thank God I'm an atheist.

  •  The ACA (0+ / 0-)

    I wish one national reporter would confront the next Republican who says he/she would repeal Obamacare to simply ask, "How do you plan on doing that when the President would veto any repeal and there aren't the votes in either House of Congress to override the veto?"  And my dream continues when that same national reporter says "...so why don't you stop lying to the voters?"

  •  Get Rid of Citizens United (0+ / 0-)

    America had to make a painful change in the healthcare system. If the trend in health care insurance had continued as before, very few of us would be able to have health insurance because the price would be outrageous. Major changes are always painful as occurred when Medicare was implemented.

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