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Thom Tillis attends a debate between the four top-polling Republican candidates in North Carolina for the U.S. Senate, at Davidson College in Davidson, North Carolina April 22, 2014. Picture taken April 22, 2014. To match USA-NORTHCAROLINA-SENATE REUTERS/Davis Turner  (UNITED STATES - Tags: POLITICS ELECTIONS HEADSHOT) - RTR3MNGY
North Carolina House Speaker and Republican U.S. Senate candidate, Thom Tillis, can't for the life of him articulate what he's for when it comes to health care reform, but he sure does know what he's against. Everything that lies between is so much gibberish and avoidance. Even as House leader, Tillis refused to take a stand on the state's effort to limit the Affordable Care Act, a bill that would probably end efforts to require health insurance coverage for some autism treatments. Rather than decide on which way to go on these conflicting bills, Tillis punted and decided to form a "study commission" to look into whether or not the state would try to limit federal law, which would be unconstitutional anyway.

That reflects Tillis's inability to come to a coherent position on Obamacare overall.

“I look at any consideration for insurance mandates the same way I would look at an incentive,” Tillis told the NFIB crowd. “I’m neither for all incentives nor against them. I’m neither for all mandates nor against them. Let’s take a look at the economic benefit.”

His campaign would not specifically respond to questions about what mandates in the federal health care law he supports. He has advocated for the repeal of the bill but not entirely endorsed a replacement.

“Speaker Tillis believes that the ACA should be repealed,” campaign manager Jordan Shaw said in a statement. “Once that is accomplished, specific mandates should be looked at on an individual, case-by-case basis to determine their business case for improving outcomes, increasing access, and driving down costs.”

So, some of the mandates in the law might be okay, but some might not? But he's not willing to say which he likes and which he doesn't? It has to be repealed first, and then maybe he'll decide what should be brought back? But he doesn't know now, despite the fact that he's had four years to figure out exactly what's in the law? Right.

Meanwhile, Sen. Kay Hagan—the Democratic incumbent—is all in supporting Obamacare and what the law can provide to North Carolinians, specifically getting half a million lower-income people in the state coverage under expanded Medicaid. The last time Tillis was asked about how to cover 500,000 people at essentially no cost to the state, more gibberish ensued: "In terms of Medicaid expansion, in business you would never put more money into a failing business until you got the business on the right track." For it? Against it? Maybe someday? Who knows? Clearly, not Thom Tillis.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu May 22, 2014 at 09:39 AM PDT.

Also republished by North Carolina BLUE, Obamacare Saves Lives, and Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (18+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Thu May 22, 2014 at 09:39:02 AM PDT

  •  Genuine authentic Gibberish (3+ / 0-)
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    skillet, milkbone, BMScott

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Thu May 22, 2014 at 09:55:16 AM PDT

  •  Get out your base Kay....there are more of us than (1+ / 0-)
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    there are of them.

  •  Accepting the notion of ANY mandate (0+ / 0-)

    should be poison to right-wing activists.

    •  Except if you want to mandate (1+ / 0-)
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      Elwood Dowd

      -drug testing for welfare recipients
      -prayers at government meetings
      -marriage is only between a man and a woman
      -vaginal probes and waiting periods for women seeking abortions
      -guns in every home
      -fracking wherever there's a possibility of natural gas

      Right-wing activists are totally down with these mandates

      I could go on and on....

      History is a guide, not a destination.

      by NCJan on Fri May 23, 2014 at 07:47:15 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  Well, duh (0+ / 0-)

    He's against it, obviously. But he can't come out and say that explicitly because, as he knows, most actual human beings are in favor of the ACA and Medicaid expansion. Not only that, even the informationally challenged set of Republican voters are beginning to think it might be a good thing, so he has to find a way to sound reasonable even while he acts unreasonably.

    So what's new?

  •  Tillis is certainly a punter of Koch /nt (0+ / 0-)

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Fri May 23, 2014 at 07:01:48 PM PDT

  •  Going To Attack Blue Cross NC and Duke medical? (0+ / 0-)

    Because those are basically the only insurers in NC and they are a couple of the state's biggest employers.  

    Is Tillis really prepared to attack them?

    Men are so necessarily mad, that not to be mad would amount to another form of madness. -Pascal

    by bernardpliers on Fri May 23, 2014 at 07:22:50 PM PDT

  •  When are republicans (1+ / 0-)
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    going to stop thinking that government is a business????

    It's not. A business has to make a profit. Government does not. Break even? Sure. Profit? No.

    Businesses will not provide a service if it's not profitable. There are a lot of things that government needs to provide that just simply is more important than making a profit. Especially when you're a government and you don't have to.

    The government is not like a family household, the government is not like a business. It is an entity unto itself, determined by the people, to serve those same people.

    Not everything needs to be a goddamned cash cow for it to have value, fucking greedy shits.

    Money should be treated like any other controlled substance; if you can't use it responsibly then you don't get to use it.

    by La Gitane on Fri May 23, 2014 at 07:23:06 PM PDT

  •  One thing that you can say about ACA (1+ / 0-)
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    is that it has simply left no room for the Republicans to maneuver politically.  While I'm disappointed that it couldn't be more progressive and take healthcare more out of the private sector, it is undeniably better than what we had before and, because it utilizes the private market system, the Republicans really have no way of proposing something even more "conservative" that is in any way capable of covering large swaths of previously/currently uninsured people, hence their incredible difficulties of coming up with viable "alternatives" to ACA.  Plus, as more and more people start benefiting from the law and/or see how it's not the "boogeyman" that the Republicans say it is, the pressure to progressively expand the law should, theoretically, increase, leaving the Republicans far behind.  

  •  Yeah right (0+ / 0-)

    "in business you would never put more money into a failing business until you got the business on the right track." I can name a thousand businesses, starting with GM and Chrysler, where this exact thing goes on. Is there any journalist out there that could ask him about this?

  •  Spent the past couple of years hounding Kay Hagan (0+ / 0-)

    to act more like a member of the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party. Her tenure has, sadly, not been uniformly fearless and disciplined.

    But when she recently decided to run hard on the ACA instead of away from it, I whipped out my debit card (for the first time) and gave till it hurt. I get that it must be pretty nervous-making to be an incumbent Democratic senator in a purplish-red state still dominated by good-ole boys, in a mid-term election, facing the full massed firepower of the Koch heads, no less. So I was really pleased to finally have a good reason to donate.

    Heck, if we can get her head right on Keystone XL I might even start ringing doorbells for her.

    Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho

    by DocDawg on Fri May 23, 2014 at 08:13:51 PM PDT

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