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Our old friends the Kochs are back with more debunkable Obamacare ads, pouring more money down the drain in Senate races where—for all their millions—they're just not getting much purchase. But it seems like they've abandoned the "horror stories" that have earned them so many Pinocchios in favor of the more generic ad like the one above, attacking Democratic Rep. Gary Peters in the Michigan race. It's generic, but that doesn't mean its claims aren't bullshit, as Simon Maloy so succinctly put it.
AFP’s ad attacks Peters by focusing on hardships faced by women in the state. "Michigan women understand: it's tough to make ends meet," the ad starts out. Peters' support for the Affordable Care Act forms the crux of the attack, as the ad claims that the ACA is responsible for "driving up our health premiums by nearly 40 percent." […]

If you squint hard enough you’ll see that AFP attributed the claim to an April 7 Forbes.com article. That article was actually reporting the results of a Morgan Stanley survey of 148 insurance brokers nationwide, which "points to significant acceleration in small group & individual rate increases." For Michigan, the increase was pegged at 36 percent.

If you look at the state-by-state data in that survey, you'll see that Morgan Stanley arrived at their number for Michigan based on responses from six insurance brokers. I’ll repeat that: they arrived at a statewide estimate on how much insurance premiums had risen after talking to SIX brokers.

What's more, Maloy reports, the survey AFP uses for the ad only looked at the individual and small group market, which represents about 40 percent of the insurance sold in Michigan. So it doesn't even apply to the 60 percent majority of insured people in the state, who have their coverage through their workplace. Six brokers say premiums are rising for 40 percent of the people with insurance, and Obamacare is causing the whole state to go broke!

The Kochs may have abandoned the personal Obamacare horror story as an ad tactic, but that doesn't mean they've abandoned making shit up.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Thu May 29, 2014 at 10:50 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (25+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Thu May 29, 2014 at 10:50:32 AM PDT

  •  Koch flavored tv ads (7+ / 0-)

    are simply bullshit
    designed to increase their control over our country..

    If cats could blog, they wouldn't

    by crystal eyes on Thu May 29, 2014 at 10:59:29 AM PDT

  •  How soon before they exceed market... (7+ / 0-)

    ...saturation, and everyone's threshold of annoyance is exceeded as well?

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Thu May 29, 2014 at 11:51:22 AM PDT

  •  Every now and again (5+ / 0-)

    There will be a post about some nonsense survey published somewhere. Practically guaranteed will be someone saying, in essence, "Who cares? Nobody reads/watches/listens to/ takes seriously" the outfit that published the bogus survey.

    This is why someone somewhere cares. Because no matter how big the steaming pile of hokum is, as long as it serves the agenda of some monied interest somewhere, the hokum will be forced out into the public sphere and paraded around as the Truth.

    It's good to have the watchdogs watching, and to call out the hokum for what it is.

  •  Of course they're lying. (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    hawkseye, FloridaSNMOM, Calamity Jean

    If they told the truth, people might actually LIKE Obamacare.

    30, white male, TX-07 (current), TN-09 (born), TN-08 (where parents live now)

    by TDDVandy on Thu May 29, 2014 at 02:53:00 PM PDT

  •  Kochs need a therapist to help them end their (0+ / 0-)

    ridiculous projecting of their concerns/fears onto the general public.  Like most people, I am not afraid of losing a billion or two dollars to increased taxes, or of increasing government restrictions on my ability to cheat others out of their hard earned money that is essential for eating and housing.  Most of us don't worry about our ability to continue fracking  or to otherwise destroy the environment.  But the Kochs think we want the same benefits as they do, so they keep telling us the government will screw us if we don't vote for RWNJs.  They seriously need a couch and a good therapist.

    Putting the fun back in dysfunctional.

    by hawkseye on Thu May 29, 2014 at 03:39:00 PM PDT

  •  I would expect a better journalist to let us kn... (0+ / 0-)

    I would expect a better journalist to let us know exactly how any insurance providers there actually are in the state and what percentage of the state is covered by those six. If 98% of the state is covered by the six mentioned, the first point becomes extremely shallow.

    •  The most complete list I can find (0+ / 0-)

      has 13 total companies that offer insurance in Michigan.   I cannot however, find market share by company, which is pertinent.  

      Indeed the the facts are lacking in this article.  It appears that 1/2 of the companies have been polled and indeed premiums are going up substantially.  Oh well, reality is allusive in some circles.  

      http://www.ehealthinsurance.com/...
           

      •  Apples to apples? (0+ / 0-)

        Compared to what? Old, junk policies? What were the rates of increase before the ACA was enacted? Those realities are also important.

        •  Who is to decide what (0+ / 0-)

          a junk policy is?  The consumer?  The stupid and evil state insurance commisioner that approved the so-called junk policies to be sold in their respective states?  You?  Valarie Jarret?  Harry Reid?  Nancy Pelosi?    

          I could give hoot what they think (can they)?  I like options.  Uh, more than a phony bronze silver and gold contract from one annointed provider in a crony capitalist/fascist construct.  BTW, I read the contracts I sign.  Don't you?  

          I can't answer your question, the original writer should have...   I'm making a point, info is lacking in this article.  Evidently you argree.

  •  Swatting this crap down is easy: (2+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Akskeptic, TKO333

    I'm really getting pissed at the campaigns and committees for not doing this simple work, while sending me daily  fundraising emails about the Kochs' spending.

    Do something. Use some of that money you keep begging me for.

    I live under the bridge to the 21st Century.

    by Crashing Vor on Thu May 29, 2014 at 04:56:03 PM PDT

    •  Perfect ad! Thank you for sharing Vor, I feel t... (0+ / 0-)

      Perfect ad! Thank you for sharing Vor, I feel the same way.

      I know a lot of ppl who get fed up and unsubscribe in response to the ad onslaught.... But it's cool cause president Obama and Nancy Pelosi emailed me personally to ask for cash!

  •  Shhh! No one needs to know how tiny the poll gr... (0+ / 0-)

    Shhh! No one needs to know how tiny the poll group is. It's OBAMACARE!

    Sadly Reagan was right - the scariest 9 words in America "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

    How dare Obama care for the American people. How dare he try to help us. Taking away our right to be sick, injured and denied assistance!

    We need more politicians like Sarah Palin. She sees Russia from her front porch. And Italy from her backyard. And Jesus if she squints a little. And Bloody Mary when she looks in the mirror. (Even though it's all snark I gagged a lil in my mouth.)

    Wouldn't it be nice of the State of Michigan or Obama could just sue these Kochsuckers for deformation of character, libel and slander, since it's all false all the time?

    Or lock them up as terrorists?

  •  (Please Help) (0+ / 0-)

    Please help us and tell Governor (of Alabama) Bentley to expand Medicaid.  Here’s his contact number 334-242-7100 or fax 334-353-0004.

  •  Q: How can you tell... (0+ / 0-)

    ...a Koch brother is lying?

    A: His checkbook is open.

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