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From The Washington Post comes the latest evidence that the GOP is the party with an Obamacare problem:
[...] senior House Republicans have decided to postpone a floor vote on their own health-reform proposal — making it less likely that a GOP alternative will be on offer before the November elections, according to lawmakers familiar with the deliberations. The delay will give them more time to work on the bill and weigh the consequences of putting a detailed policy before the voters in the fall, lawmakers said.
I'll go out on a limb and wager that there's roughly a zero percent chance that Republicans will actually put a detailed health care policy up for a vote before the election. Maybe another repeal vote dressed up as a replacement, but nothing that's a serious proposal, because the Republicans that are closest to the issue don't want to touch it with a 10-foot pole:
[...] several chairmen of House committees told GOP leaders at a meeting last week that they would prefer to wait until next year to vote on a comprehensive health-care alternative, according to Republicans who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations.
As The Post notes, Republican candidates are no longer talking about Obamacare repeal as the focus of their message: Instead, they're talking about "fixing" the law—and trying to align themselves with its more popular provisions, sometimes to hilarious effect, as was the case with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell who is trying to convince Kentucky that it can keep all the benefits of Obamacare while repealing the law.

Bottom-line: When Obamacare was an abstraction, Republicans loved to scream about it 24x7. But now that more than 8 million people have secured private insurance through Obamacare and millions more are getting coverage through its expansion of Medicaid, reality is beginning to settle in, and Republicans are running for the hills.

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  •  I hate to inform them, but....some of those (4+ / 0-)
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    dewtx, Mr MadAsHell, Mokurai, daeros

    elephants have wet backs.

    Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer. Ayn is the bane!

    by Floyd Blue on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:02:47 AM PDT

  •  only plastic in the GOP graveyard (1+ / 0-)
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    In geology, elephants’ graveyards are "....accumulations of large stoped blocks) on the floors of granite batholiths, and high degrees of country rock contamination in some granite batholiths. In military settings, it is sometimes used as a slang term to describe postings or assignments for senior officers for which there is no potential for further promotion.

    Warning - some snark may be above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ eState4Column5©2013 "If we appear to seek the unattainable, then let it be known that we do so to avoid the unimaginable." (@eState4Column5)

    by annieli on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:05:47 AM PDT

  •  For some reason, that pic coupled with that title (4+ / 0-)
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    was damn epic

  •  You know how you have won against the GOP (6+ / 0-)
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    dewtx, a2nite, GRLionsFan, JML9999, MKDAWUSS, daeros

    they change the subject

  •  CBO scoring (3+ / 0-)
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    Betty Pinson, dewtx, GRLionsFan

    Either they haven't had the CBO crunch the numbers or the crunching makes this alleged bill a joke.

    I want 1 less Tiny Coffin, Why Don't You? Support The President's Gun Violence Plan.

    by JML9999 on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:11:58 AM PDT

  •  And the sent a memo (4+ / 0-)
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    I swear they must have.  Had a discussion with a hardcore Rethuglican today and I brought up McConnell trying to repeal ACA but not Kynect.  Previously we had had multi hour "conversations" on Obamacare.  Nope, didnt want to talk about Obamacare because it was a disaster and now people were stuck with it and it was their own fault.  Nope, it was all Benghazi all day.  When I brought it back to ACA it was alternately "pretty much what Mitt Romney did but not as good" and "Way better than what Hillarycare would have been……and Benghazi….."

    It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

    by ksuwildkat on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:12:30 AM PDT

    •  I also talked to a KY republican (3+ / 0-)

      This guy is very poor.  Lives in a shack, has no car and probably no cable TV.  Works odd jobs when he can find work.  He's done some yard work for me several times.  Ran into him at the grocery store today and gave him a lift home.

      On the way home from the grocery we got to talking  He signed up for KYnect.  Went to the doctor for the first time in decades.  Got his blood pressure down and his colesterol under control.

      He knew that the ACA, KYnect and Obamacare were all the same thing. He said McConnell had been in Washington too long.  Said he was probably on the take from big business.  Also said that McConnell was trying to pull a fast on the voters with regard to Kynect, ACA.  Voting for ALG.

      I just don't think people who are getting health insurance for the first time are going to be fooled by MM.  He's not going to be able to keep up this double talk  for another 5 months.

      •  One at a time (0+ / 0-)

        is my usual mo.  Teach one, move to the next.  Obamacare taught people in chunks.  

        I think there was a basic disconnect between politicians opposed to ACA and the masses of people without health care.  Not having health insurance is terrifying for anyone who used to have it and suddenly doesnt.  For those who have never had it, it seems like an unattainable dream.  

        There are many levels of privilege in this country.  Unemployed, job, indoor job, apartment (vs trailer), house, owning your home, job with retirement, etc etc etc.  Job with health care used to be one of the biggest.  It was one of the huge dividing lines between haves and have nots.  The ACA has straightened a lot of backs and lifted a lot of chins.

        It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

        by ksuwildkat on Fri May 30, 2014 at 03:44:11 PM PDT

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  •  "Run away! Run away!" (0+ / 0-)

    I am proud to be able to say that I got the chance to vote for Ann Richards for Governor of Texas, twice!

    by dewtx on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:15:34 AM PDT

  •  Great photo (5+ / 0-)

    I guess the GOP thinks they'll have better luck with the VA scandal.

    ACA is still too popular with the voting public to be used against Dems.  That may change if the program isn't properly administered, but for now it's an asset for Dems.

    Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

    by Betty Pinson on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:16:25 AM PDT

    •  Yeah send Cheney in, the man who flooded the VA (2+ / 0-)
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      with a million injured in 10 years.

      Don't send a teddy bear to the Martinez family, they don't want you to intrude on their grief - send a postcard to a politician Not One More

      by 88kathy on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:36:37 AM PDT

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      •  The GOP has much to answer for (2+ / 0-)
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        WRT problems at the VA.  

        In addition to wars of convenience and budget cuts, I can't believe that Sen. McCain and GOP members of the Arizona delegation were unaware of problems at the Phoenix VA medical center.

        Every member of Congress has staff in the district whose job is to handle constituent issues & services.  These offices get thousands of calls every year from constituents needing help with VA services, Medicare, Social Security, etc.

        As severe as the VA problems were in AZ, I can't believe their local offices weren't aware of the massive problems, delays, etc.  Sorry, I just don't believe they knew nothing about it.  If you're a senator or member of Congress and your staff is routinely investigating complaints from vets who are waiting months without getting appointments for VA health care, you have to know something is wrong.  

        Where were the GOP inquiries and investigations when all these problems first arose?  Did these members of Congress just ignore the delays and do nothing?

        Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

        by Betty Pinson on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:50:47 AM PDT

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        •  I know the veterans, I know them well, (1+ / 0-)
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          On Friday, September September 26, 2008, John McCain said the following:

              "I know the veterans, I know them well, and I know that they know that I'll take care of them, and I have been proud of their support and their recognition of my service to the veterans, and I love them, and I'll take care of them, and they know that I'll take care of them."

          Senator John McCain's Record on Troop and Veterans' Issues

          Way too long for a comment -- WOW

          Don't send a teddy bear to the Martinez family, they don't want you to intrude on their grief - send a postcard to a politician Not One More

          by 88kathy on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:57:21 AM PDT

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          •  No, John, I don't think you do (1+ / 0-)
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            AZ's GOP delegation needs to tell us the details of when they first began hearing these complaints about the Phoenix VA center, what they did to investigate and when they did it.  

            IOW, what did the AZ GOP delegation know and when did they know it?

            Money is property, not speech. Overturn Citizens United.

            by Betty Pinson on Fri May 30, 2014 at 12:11:36 PM PDT

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            •  Googled Airizona's VA problems (1+ / 0-)
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              Sens. John McCain and Jeff Flake are calling for a Senate investigation and hearings into allegations that up to 40 Arizona veterans died while awaiting medical appointments at the Phoenix VA Medical Center. Read More
              In 2008 McCain I love them, and I'll take care of them, and they know that I'll take care of them, six years later McCain wanders off and forgets Phoenix is in Arizona.

              Don't send a teddy bear to the Martinez family, they don't want you to intrude on their grief - send a postcard to a politician Not One More

              by 88kathy on Fri May 30, 2014 at 12:31:06 PM PDT

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  •  The Wilderness is....THATAWAY!! (1+ / 0-)
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  •  And Obamacare Will Only Become More Successful (3+ / 0-)
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    So when Nov comes and goes the NEXT enrollment period for ACA will start.  So millions more will sign up.  The election is bound to raise an outcry for the Medicare expansion where Rep governors have turned it down.  Millions more signing up for ACA with more young people signing up is bound to drive down premiums.  By the time Repubs get around to trying to figure wheat a replacement might look like the train will be so far out of the station they'll never catch it.

    •  Perfect timing (0+ / 0-)

      October would have been a bit better but Ill take Nov 15.

      Every Democrat should be hammering their Rethuglican opponent with "why are you trying to take people health care away?  Its worth a minimum of 8 million votes.  Thats an average of 18K votes per congressional district.  In reality it probably more in the competitive ones.  Make republicans tell voters BEFORE the election that they intend to take health care away from their constituents.  

      It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

      by ksuwildkat on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:37:11 AM PDT

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  •  Republicans need to man up (0+ / 0-)

    And face the electorate with a plan in hand.  If they have a problem with Obamacare, they should stand before the electorate and make the case that they can do better.

    This is yet more evidence that Republicans are a bunch of craven wussies.

  •  Dems should still go on offense and nail the (3+ / 0-)
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    Repugs as the party that wanted to take away your healthcare!!!

  •  As predicted by a number of us here on Daily Kos. (3+ / 0-)
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    To all of you who were wringing your hands on this issue; chin up! The retreat isn't completely obvious yet, but it soon will be.

    As I've said before, let's hope the Dems are astute enough to take full advantage of the GOPs major ACA blunder. They invested fully in "Obamacare" repeal, the next best thing to impeaching Obama, from their point-of-view.

    Let's make them pay the political price for playing politics and, yet again, being against the right thing to do.

    "Inequality is the root of social evil." ― Pope Francis

    by GoodGod on Fri May 30, 2014 at 11:32:51 AM PDT

    •  Chess Grandmaster Savielly Tartakower: (1+ / 0-)
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      The winner in a game of chess is the player who makes the next-to-the-last blunder.
      The ACA exchange rollout was a mess, and indeed a blunder, but pinning all Republican hopes on it was a far greater and more lasting blunder.

      More chess quotes from Tartakower that apply to current politics:

      No one ever won a game by resigning. [Dean 50-state strategy]

      It is always better to sacrifice your opponents' men. [Democrats pointing out to Tea Party voters that the crazy one is the more Conservative primary candidate]

      The blunders are all there on the board, waiting to be made. [Cue the crazy!]

      In chess, there is only one mistake: over-estimation of your opponent. All else is either bad luck or weakness. [Take polling seriously, but not as the last word; ignore the Very Serious People; be ready to take advantage of the blunders.]

      The first essential for an attack is the will to attack. [Enough said]

      Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

      by Mokurai on Fri May 30, 2014 at 12:26:20 PM PDT

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  •  So the GOPosaurs were right! (0+ / 0-)

    ObamaCare WAS a disaster!  (For GOPosaur reelection plans...)

  •  Mitch McConnell makes it plain that he cares (1+ / 0-)
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    about one thing above all else:

    Mitch McConnell

    Alison Lundergan Grimes makes it plain that she cares about one thing above all else:

    Kentucky

    Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

    by Mokurai on Fri May 30, 2014 at 12:28:22 PM PDT

  •  We've had what, 50 some odd votes? (0+ / 0-)

    I think it was vote number 40 or 41 at the beginning of the current congress for yet another repeal. It was yet another symbolic vote in the House that even House Leadership knew had no chance of passing the Senate or a Presidential veto. No, this vote was just to let the incoming freshmen have the symbolic opportunity to vote against Obamacare.

    Millions of dollars spent by so called "Deficit Hawks" on legislation that will never even get to the President's desk.

    This akin to the concept of Repugs voting for a war on the national credit card and blaming the Democrat for the ensuing deficit while voting against legislation to build more VA facilities and increase doctor pay to be on par with civilian medical rates. Blame the president for your failures is the new mantra.

    Or how about rejecting increased diplomatic security only to blame the president for the failure to protect those assets. Not to mention papering over the dozens of attacks under the previous Repug administration that resulted in several times the number of casualties. But, then again, holding multiple hearings that just rehash the same information over and over again, dam the cost, is acceptable.

  •  Wonder what happened to the Republican plan (0+ / 0-)

    for healthcare they pretended to have written?
    Where's the replace part, eh?
    Ahh, well, I guess the Elephant ate it.
    They'll be looking closely at the feces tomorrow.
    I just know they'll find it there.

  •  At the risk of being trivial... (1+ / 0-)
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    The Elephant should in no way be the symbol of the Rs. Actual elephants are truly family-oriented, intelligent, and sensitive. Actual Rs are not-so-much.

    In my faith, if we are lucky, we find ourselves aligned with an animal spirit. Mine is Elephant. I love the picture on this diary.

    Now, about the diary: Good Job. These Rs have no actual ideas, so they keep running around trying to denigrate ideas that We The People have embraced.

  •  But soooo many people will listen to these reth... (0+ / 0-)

    But soooo many people will listen to these rethuglicans bastards and believe they can repeal the ACA and still keep the benefits it brings. Because alot of people don't even know what the ACA IS, they just hear OBAMA!care and are against it on "principle".

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