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The federal government is moving 1000 undocumented and unaccompanied children to a holding facility in Nogales, AZ that has no indoor plumbing.  You may have read in the NYTimes about all the unaccompanied children entering the U.S.

Since Oct. 1, a record 47,017 unaccompanied children have been apprehended at the southwest United States border, most traveling from Central America, part of a larger wave that includes some youngsters accompanied by their parents and some traveling alone.
The children have been detained and are now being moved about the country.
The federal government plans to use the facility in Nogales as a way station, where the children will be vaccinated and checked medically. They will then be flown to facilities being set up in Ventura, Calif., San Antonio and Fort Sill, Okla., the AP said.


[Gov. Jan] Brewer's spokesman, Andrew Wilder, told the Associated Press that conditions at the holding facility in Nogales are so dire that the state is releasing federal medical and other supplies to the facility. A regional director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency was also being sent to Arizona to help manage the crisis, Wilder told the AP.
Laura Oxley, spokeswoman for the state Department of Health Services, said federal officials have also asked Arizona to have vaccines, paid for by the federal government, shipped to Nogales. Oxley said these are for the normal childhood diseases like measles and mumps, with the plan being to vaccinate the children before they are moved elsewhere.

Wilder said this appears to be more than a temporary situation. He said as children leave the Nogales facility they are expected to be replaced by new arrivals, with capacity there at 1,500 at any one time.


Last week Ice dropped off hundreds of  women and children at Tucson and Phoenix greyhound Stations.
Andy Adame, a spokesman for the Border Patrol in Tucson,....said the migrants were flown to Arizona because the Border Patrol does not have enough manpower to handle a surge in illegal immigrants in south Texas.
The release has drawn criticism from those on both sides of the immigration issue.

The AZ Republic and the AZ Daily Star are following and updating the story.

This is a terrible situation, and I don't have any answers, but I know that sending 1000 kids to a facility with no plumbing will not go well. Those poor kids.

Originally posted to Desert Rose on Sat Jun 07, 2014 at 02:00 PM PDT.

Also republished by Baja Arizona Kossacks.

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  •  Tip Jar (39+ / 0-)

    It is ridiculous to pretend that firing teachers based on student test scores, starting charter schools, giving out vouchers or implementing merit pay will overcome the challenges facing a child living in poverty. -Jersey Jazzman

    by Desert Rose on Sat Jun 07, 2014 at 02:00:40 PM PDT

  •  Concentration camp is the term you (13+ / 0-)

    Are looking for. I was floored reading this last night.

    Brewer is acting, that indicates just how horrific the conditions are.

  •  It might be better than south Texas (0+ / 0-)

    I've heard that most of the crossing has shifted from AZ to South Texas. AZ is better set up for those being repatriated with Nogales just across the border.

    Bear  in mind I've no idea of the conditions they are coming from or going to, but I'd think they are trying to send them to better, being kids and all.

    “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

    by ban nock on Sat Jun 07, 2014 at 03:19:44 PM PDT

    •  Nogales is not close to Central America (4+ / 0-)

      I think your comment reflects unwarranted optimism about the good intentions of ICE.

      La migra ain't humanitarian.

      Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

      by benamery21 on Sat Jun 07, 2014 at 03:51:07 PM PDT

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    •  And Juarez is 20 minutes from most of S. Texas (4+ / 0-)

      ... but not sure if either fact is relevant. Seems a lot of the people in question are from countries south of Mexico. And even if they aren't, they may be from communities hundreds of miles from the either border town. Placing them in border towns makes it just as likely (if not more likely) that they'll travel to the U.S. again vs. traveling home.

      AZ is better set up for those being repatriated with Nogales just across the border.

      "I'm not a number" --84,414

      by BentLiberal on Sat Jun 07, 2014 at 03:59:31 PM PDT

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      •  wiki (0+ / 0-)

        Country of origin    Raw number    Percent of total    Percent change 2000 to 2009
        Mexico    6,650,000    62%    +42%
        El Salvador    530,000    5%    +25%
        Guatemala    480,000    4%    +65%
        Honduras    320,000    3%    +95%
        Philippines    270,000    2%    +33%
        India    200,000    2%    +64%
        Korea    200,000    2%    +14%
        Ecuador    170,000    2%    +55%
        Brazil    150,000    1%    +49%
        China    120,000    1%    -37%
        Other    1,650,000    15%    -17%

        “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

        by ban nock on Sat Jun 07, 2014 at 05:01:11 PM PDT

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        •  That's genpop (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          BentLiberal, blueoasis

          NOT the children being discussed, of whom a majority are Central American, not to mention the internal size of Mexico, or the fact that this is a transshipment camp for relocation to other domestic facilities, not a repatriation point.

          Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

          by benamery21 on Sat Jun 07, 2014 at 05:04:45 PM PDT

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      •  That is a fact (0+ / 0-)
        Seems a lot of the people in question are from countries south of Mexico.
        I've seen a lot of stories in Mexican media about how migrants from other Central American counties are putting a strain on Mexico's social services. Two specifics: a lot of them catch rides on freight trains, and sometimes sustain serious injuries when doing so. They often become crime victims.
  •  It's reuniting families. (4+ / 0-)

    Nobody is going to send a kid north to the US if there is no adult at the other end.

    People that have made it to the US and worked for a while send the money home so their kids can make the journey. I know this from speaking to someone who had her son sent up from Honduras. I was horrified, but he made it safely.

    If we don't want to keep thousands of children in custody, the best thing to do would be: let them be re-united with the parents that they were sent to when they were arrested.

    This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

    by Karl Rover on Sat Jun 07, 2014 at 04:54:13 PM PDT

    •  Amen (3+ / 0-)
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      Karl Rover, Desert Rose, buddabelly

      although there are probably a few older teenagers in these groups who aren't headed for a family situation, the RIGHT answer here in the VAST majority of cases is to let their U.S. families take them in without any potential for leading to the deportation of those families.  

      Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

      by benamery21 on Sat Jun 07, 2014 at 04:59:04 PM PDT

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  •  They're also locking them up in San Antonio (3+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    Desert Rose, benamery21, blueoasis

    at Lackland AFB.

  •  What are the alternatives? (0+ / 0-)

    Apparently the word on the southern side of the border, all the way through central America, is that the Border Patrol are nicer to women and children, especially unaccompanied children, than men and older boys. From what I read, that is an accurate perception; these children are not being summarily deported, but instead get medical care and social workers who help resettle them in the US with relatives. So in a reversal of the usual migration pattern, families are sending the women and children, or just children, on their own.

    So what are the options for dealing with this influx? Shooting on sight is NG; leaving them to starve and dehydrate is NG; and the numbers coming in would overwhelm any community -- think the shelters during and after Hurricane Katrina.

    If the treatment gets better, then even more families will send unaccompanied children across the border, to be housed somewhere and dealt with by overworked medical and social services staffs in the border areas.

    I'm not defending difficult conditions of confinement. But I also find the decisions on what to do about the bigger situation are not simple, and even in the short run I'm not sure what the Border Patrol can/should do differently.

    •  Give 'em two tickets (0+ / 0-)

      One to tear up, and one to take them where they were headed.

      Seriously, cite them, and send them to their parents.  We're creating a humanitarian disaster to no purpose.  Detention is entirely unnecessary.

      If you want a long term solution, here you have it: freedom of movement within the Western hemisphere.  

      Iron sharpens Iron. Normal is a dryer setting. STOP illegal immigration NOW! -- Make it LEGAL. If Corporations are People--Let's draft them.

      by benamery21 on Sun Jun 08, 2014 at 08:38:56 AM PDT

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