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Rep. Alan Grayson is well known as a progressive advocate in Congress, and a strong supporter of civil liberties. He is one of the few members of Congress ever to post at DailyKos and he is quite beloved here. That makes the bill he just proposed even more appalling.

On May 30, 2014, the very same day that Grayson passed an important amendment banning funding for prosecuting journalists for refusing to reveal their sources, Grayson introduced H.R. 4776, “To prohibit an institution of higher education that participates in a boycott of the Israeli government, economy, or academia from receiving funds from the U.S. federal government.” Grayson’s bill is part of a widespread attack on the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) movement.

Grayson’s bill is among the worst of these attacks. It would impose a total ban on federal funding to any college, public or private, that “adopts a policy or resolution, issues a statement, or otherwise formally establishes the restriction of discourse, cooperation, exchange, financial interaction, or any other involvement with the Israeli government, economy, or academia--including academic institutions or scholars on the basis of the connection of such institutions or such scholars to the State of Israel--then that institution shall be determined to be participating in a boycott of the Israeli government, economy, or academia.”

This is extraordinarily broad language. First of all, Grayson’s bill is not limited to academic boycotts. It covers any boycott of any Israeli product or company. So if a university decided not to invest in Israeli companies that are deemed to harm Palestinians, it would lose all federal funding. Want the campus cafeteria to boycott Israeli hummus? All federal funding will be immediately stripped from the college.

Second, Grayson’s bill goes far beyond attacking the BDS movement. For example, imagine that a serious of attacks by Palestinian terrorists in Israel causes an American university to temporarily stop sending its students to study abroad in Israel due to safety concerns. Under Grayson’s bill, this would constitute a boycott of an Israeli academic institution and result in the loss of all federal funding.

It’s unclear exactly how far Grayson’s bill would extend. If a student group or a department decided not to invite an Israeli scholar, would this trigger the total ban on federal funding? If a university issues a statement against injustices in Israel, would that violate this bill? That’s a matter of interpretation. But the effect of a ban on all federal funds would be so catastrophic to almost any college that the vagueness of this bill’s language would be likely to cause some universities to suppress academic freedom out of fear.

Regardless of whether or not you support boycotts of Israel, the use of government funding bans to force colleges to obey Grayson’s views about Israel is a tremendous attack on academic freedom and civil liberties.

Crossposted at AcademeBlog.

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  •  Yeah, no. (1+ / 0-)
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    Mannie

    n/t

  •  I used to like Grayson (3+ / 0-)

    I hope to do so again in the future.

    If he pushes the "punish the BDS" bill, he's not anyone I could ever support.

    This Rover crossed over.. Willie Nelson, written by Dorothy Fields

    by Karl Rover on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 03:04:44 PM PDT

  •  Grayson is 100% right on this! (7+ / 0-)

    BDS is not a peace movement, it is a movement that seeks to eliminate the State of Israel from the planet. This is contrary to US foreign policy and government funds should not be supporting this.

    •  Bullshit (9+ / 0-)

      Seriously? "...eliminate the State of Israel from the planet."? I don't think so. What BDS helped to accomplish in the South African struggle was to put an end to apartheid.

      Thomas Jefferson, 1816: "I hope we shall...crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the Laws of our country."

      by PDX Dem on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 03:46:09 PM PDT

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      •  Of course, the situation in Israel is nothing like (4+ / 0-)

        the apartheid in South Africa, not even remotely. But hey,  if the Jews need to hand over control of the country to the peace loving Palestinian Authority or the humanitarians at Hamas, it's only fair, isn't it? After all, they can all go back to Poland or New Jersey or Iran or wherever they came from, and the PA can turn Palestine into a Paradise, just like in Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia and all the other artificial countries the Brits made up. Except they ruthlessly wiped out all of their enemies to avoid problems like there is in Israel today.

        "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

        by shmuelman on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:43:33 PM PDT

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        •  Sorry, I think this is BS (1+ / 0-)
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          dougiemac in WA
          Of course, the situation in Israel is nothing like the apartheid in South Africa

          A house is no home unless it contains food and fire for the mind as well as the body. - Margaret Fuller

          by penelope pnortney on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:54:49 PM PDT

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          •  Perhaps you could explain what's like South Africa (5+ / 0-)

            1.  Does Israel have "Jews only" beaches and restaurants? (no)

            2.  Aren't there several Arab judges and members of the Israeli parliament, even an Arab member of Israel's Supreme Court? (Yes)

            3.  Is there a mosque right on the high-priced downtown Tel Aviv waterfront?  (Yes)

            4.  Aren't there Arab men and women who are Israeli TV stars, beauty queens, stars on soccer teams and other Arab celebrities in Israel who are adored by the Jewish population? (Yes)  In fact, haven't Arabs even been voted by Jews as the winners of the Israel version of American Idol? (Yes)

            5.  Is it true that some people are so blinded by their hatred of Israel that they'll claim Israel has "apartheid"? (Yes)

            •  How the two situations are similar (3+ / 0-)

              Here I venture into the dangerous lions dens of both I/P debate and Alan Grayson worship, but - nothing ventured nothing gained.

              The two situations seem to me similar, not in specific details, but in the intent of those urging boycotts. In both cases there is the hope of putting pressure on a country that is acting in ways that are unfairly harmful to another population within their control.
              Boycotting South Africa was an attempt to bring attention, and pressure, against treatment of blacks..
              Boycotting Israel is an attempt to bring attention, and pressure, against treatment of Palestinians.

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              by Catte Nappe on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:37:23 PM PDT

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            •  If you really need me to find you links (1+ / 0-)
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              dougiemac in WA

              to news coverage (non-mainstream, pretty much) that describes the discriminatory and atrocious Israeli policies that have been in effect for the last decade or more, I suppose I can do so - my opinions come from reading I've done on the subject over that same period.  You should be able to find plenty of articles with appropriate sourcing by googling Israel and apartheid.

              A more recent source, which only confirmed what I already believed to be true, was Max Blumenthal's Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel.  You'll conveniently find a spirited and sometimes virulent discussion on the subject, online, wherever reviews of his book are found.

              A house is no home unless it contains food and fire for the mind as well as the body. - Margaret Fuller

              by penelope pnortney on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:55:29 PM PDT

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            •  Israel has Jewish settlers only roads in the (0+ / 0-)

              occupied territories.

          •  Whether I agree with Israel's policies today, they (3+ / 0-)
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            Mannie, charliehall2, valion

            evolved because the population got sick of being shelled from Golan, from being attacked by Syria and Egypt, by continuous terrorism and surrounding countries who refused their to recognize right to exist. You may not believe it, but this is actually the ancestral homeland of the Jews, not like the Brits and Boers who were colonialists in South Africa.
            The Brits and the US for that matter, didn't give a shit about the Jews or the Palestinians, or there wouldn't be the problems there today. The Brits actually thought they could keep one of the most educated and sophisticated populations in the world, who had nothing left to lose, came from absolute slaughter in Europe and had an indomitable political will, from forming their own country.  Just like they thought they could keep colonial rule over India. They actually kept 100,000's of Jews in interment after WW II until they could figure out a second "final solution" for them. Too bad the Palestinians had no Theodore Herzl or David Ben Gurion to lead them, no Albert Einsteins or rich Western population supporting them. No oil like the rich sheiks and kings whom the Brits courted by giving them their own fiefdoms. That's why the Palestinians don't have their own home state today.
            Just because you don't really care if Jews have a homeland, live or die, fade into history, and can run your mouth about apartheid when you have no skin in the game, I do care. I will support Israel with my life if called to do it, EVEN IF I don't agree with the temporary policies from a temporary government.

            "You can die for Freedom, you just can't exercise it"

            by shmuelman on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:46:10 PM PDT

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            •  Ancestral homeland just one factor.... still.... (1+ / 0-)
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              The entire continental US is the ancestral homeland of Native Americans, but US citizens aren't ready to give it back, and leave their houses and cities.  Just saying.  But I know there are lots of factors and one has to consider all of them.  Unsurpassed in importance is the principle that Israel must continue to exist, strong and secure, as a guaranteed safe place for Jews to live no matter what else is happening in the world.  The Holocaust justified some form of Zionism.  Justice for the Palestinians can't include opening the door for them to cause Israel, as a Jewish safe haven, to cease to exist.  

              It's a mess.  Gaza is in terrible shape and a humanitarian disaster.  The Golan has to remain with Israel for the sake of security.  IIRC, pulling out the entire West Bank would make part of Israel only a few miles wide, so that's not going to work.  What a mess.

              "Happiness is the only good. The place to be happy is here. The time to be happy is now. The way to be happy is to make others so." - Robert Ingersoll

              by dackmont on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 07:58:53 PM PDT

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        •  desmond tutu and jimmy carter disagree n/t (0+ / 0-)
          •  Jimmy Carter said the opposite about Israel (2+ / 0-)
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            Mannie, 1918

            and has made clear on many occasions that he never intended to describe conditions within Israel, where he agreed that a democracy exists with all the freedoms we enjoy in our country and Israeli Jews and Arabs are legally guaranteed the same rights as citizens.  For example, see this link.

            The territories, as you know, are not part of Israel.

            •  yeah, and the bantustans weren't south africa (3+ / 0-)
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              dallasdunlap, Meteor Blades, CupaJoe

              look, if you militarily control a territory, build walls on the territory, settle your population on the territory, prevent people from entering leaving the territory (even to go to third countries), control the flow of trade goods, food and electricity to said territory, periodically bomb, shoot into, and raid the territory and assassinate its elected leaders, and prevent denizens of said territory from joining the UN or related groups, you can't pretend it has nothing to do with you.

              and if you think arab israelis are equal citizens in practice, you really aren't paying attention.

        •  The problem is (1+ / 0-)
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          that the best way to keep "the peace loving Palestinian Authority or the humanitarians at Hamas, it's only fair, isn't it?" from taking over the government of Israel is to stop building in the occupied territories and to work to form a separate Palestinian state.

          The Israeli government is doing more to eliminate the state of Israel than the Arabs ever could. Because if there is going to be one state, eventually all its people will become citizens with full citizens' rights, and then Israel ill cease to exist.

          I sometimes feel that I am watching someone I love commit suicide.

          We need a world in which we ask "What's happened to you?" more and "What's wrong with you?" less. (From a comment by Kossack nerafinator)

          by ramara on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 11:13:54 PM PDT

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    •  Government funding restrictions? (2+ / 0-)
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      I think it's a fairly ridiculous conspiracy theory to claim that BDS is a plot to destroy Israel. (Certainly, some people who support BDS want to do that, but it's not the declared purpose of BDS nor is it a likely consequence of the movement.)

      What's more interesting to me is that you think government funds should not be used to support anything contrary to US foreign policy. Remember when invading Iraq was US foreign policy under Bush? Does that mean you would have endorsed a law to ban federal funds to any college that criticized the war in Iraq?

      It seems clear to me that in a free society, colleges are not punished for taking certain stands (particularly when this is all a fictional threat, and no colleges have embraced any kind of boycott of Israel).

      The Most Dangerous Man in America: Rush Limbaugh's Assault on Reason (www.limbaughbook.com).

      by JohnKWilson on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:52:36 PM PDT

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    •  You're lying about (1+ / 0-)
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      dougiemac in WA

      BDS, which simply seeks freedom and equal rights for Palestinians, but even if your bullshit were true, the government can't pick and choose who gets money based on political beliefs. I mean it can, but not without violating the 1st amendment. Shameless pander by Grayson.

  •  Don't boycotts interfere with free speech? (7+ / 0-)

    If a boycott is adopted by the president of a university, the chairman of a department, or a majority of an academic association, wouldn't that impair the academic freedom and rights to free speech of the dissenting minority?

    Sounds like a great and interesting case for the courts, but this bill seems to protect the civil liberties of the academics who want to invite or work with Israeli academics while the boycotters would be interfering with those civil rights.

    Also, as a technical matter, would a restriction on travel to all places on State Department safety watch lists, not just a restriction on travel to Israel, violate Grayson's bill?  Would the bill prohibit the cafeteria from no longer serving hummus, or just prohibit doing so because of the announcement by the school of a policy to stop buying Israeli products?  I'm not sure if you're misinterpreting the bill.

    •  Boycotts can support free speech (0+ / 0-)

      It all depends on how they are used. If a right-wing company silences progressives and you boycott them, then perhaps that boycott is defending free speech. Likewise, BDS supporters argue that boycotting Israel helps defend the academic freedom of Palestinian professors and students, which certainly has been restricted by Israel.

      I disagree with the BDS movement, and I oppose boycotts. But an academic boycott doesn't necessary infringe the academic freedom of others. And remember, Grayson's bill also bans economic boycotts (such as refusing to invest in Israeli companies, or choosing a different brand of hummus), which certainly doesn't impair anyone's academic freedom.

      By contrast, punishing a college (and all the faculty who receive federal grants for research) for taking a stand certainly and clearly impairs academic freedom.

      The Most Dangerous Man in America: Rush Limbaugh's Assault on Reason (www.limbaughbook.com).

      by JohnKWilson on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:57:51 PM PDT

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      •  Respectfully disagree (3+ / 0-)
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        Mannie, Kane in CA, Eyesbright

        This bill does not compel anyone to do business with any Israeli company or to invite any Israeli academic to speak.  It does not stop individual from even participating in a boycott.

        Colleges are corporations.  As Democrats, we're fighting against Citizens United.  Are you arguing that corporations ought to have constitutional rights to "free speech" when you like the message, but not when you don't?  

  •  Slanderous title for this diary! (5+ / 0-)
    Rep-Alan-Grayson-s-Attack-on-Civil-Liberties
    You should be ashamed of it!
    Sounds like something from Faux Noise!

    Since when is supporting Israel an attack on Civil Liberties?

    Never underestimate stupid. Stupid is how reTHUGlicans win!

    by Mannie on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 03:57:44 PM PDT

    •  You are free to disagree.... (7+ / 0-)

      ...but you're wrong to drop that HR into his Tip Jar.

      You should remove it.

      Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

      by The Termite on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:08:09 PM PDT

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      •  He is slandering a good Democrat! (1+ / 0-)
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        Eyesbright

        You don't think that is wrong?

        Never underestimate stupid. Stupid is how reTHUGlicans win!

        by Mannie on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:12:45 PM PDT

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        •  I think that his opinion is overblown (2+ / 0-)
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          But I don't think it rises to the level of slander. I think he has a point, actually.

          "Wrong" isn't the standard. There's so much "wrong" here every single day.

          Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

          by The Termite on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:21:40 PM PDT

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        •  The whole point of this site (0+ / 0-)

          is to support Democrats when they are doing good things, and to criticize them when they don't. By the way, I wasn't saying that progressives should primary Grayson or even withhold money from his campaign. I think you judge a politician by their entire record, and Grayson's is quite good.

          But if you can't criticize Democrats when they engage in clearly anti-progressive proposals, then it's a sad day for DailyKos.

          The Most Dangerous Man in America: Rush Limbaugh's Assault on Reason (www.limbaughbook.com).

          by JohnKWilson on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:02:14 PM PDT

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          •  Criticize Yes!, but there is a limit (good taste) (1+ / 0-)
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            That title reads like a tea party idiot (Attack on Civil Liberties) instead of a good Democrat who even has engaged us on DKOS

            Do you understand the difference here?
            Criticize, YES!, But in good taste!

            Heck I am on record for despising a certain 1% Governor who has a D next to his name, and even I wouldn't type that about him!

            Never underestimate stupid. Stupid is how reTHUGlicans win!

            by Mannie on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:13:13 PM PDT

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        •  People "slander" "good Democrats!" all the time (0+ / 0-)

          here, here's a list of "good Democrats" who have been "slandered" on this site in the past few years:  

          Barack Obama,
          Hillary Clinton,
          Bill Clinton (I've done this myself a time or two, but if you don't ask when, I won't tell)
          Nancy Pelosi,
          Harry Reid,
          Eric Shinseki, (a travesty to a good man)
          Mike Honda (had a whole diary written attacking him by a California diarist),
          Luis Gutierrez (I've said bad things about Luis, I know him), Jim Moran,
          Jim McDermott,
          Dennis Kuchinich, (I've made unkind comments, too)
          Patrick Leahy (diary on blue slips),
          Patty Murray (budget deal with Paul Ryan),
          Jon Tester,
          Mark & Tom Udall,
          Terry McAuliffe,
          Neil Abercrombie (was attacked for being in the pocket of agribusiness recently),
          Brian Schweitzer,
          Andrew Cuomo (some consider him a Democrat)...

          Not sure why you believe Alan Grayson is immune from the normal to and fro of Democratic fighting.  He, himself, is known for wildly impolitic attacks on others, using hyperbole and literary license to make his points of view.  

          I am not fond of Grayson generally, because of his style, which seems self-serving to me, even as we often agree on substance. But he will get as good as he gives, and I don't think his feelings will be hurt by this diary.  

          "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of these United States of America -9.75 -6.87

          by Uncle Moji on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:20:26 PM PDT

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    •  There Is No Slander Here (2+ / 0-)

      Supporting Israel is not an attack on civil liberties (I support Israel on my points, after all). Forcing anyone to support Israel by banning them from receiving government funds is an attack on civil liberties.

      I'm writing a book on defamation law and how it gets abused to silence free speech. Thanks for the help in proving my point.

      The Most Dangerous Man in America: Rush Limbaugh's Assault on Reason (www.limbaughbook.com).

      by JohnKWilson on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:40:33 PM PDT

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  •  I Have Always Had A Problem With Grayson's (4+ / 0-)

    100 percent support for anything that has something to do with Israel.  That is why I have never been able to support him strongly.  I have given him money because he is a real democrat, but I don't believe in a blind support when it comes to Israel.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:00:55 PM PDT

    •  Agree (1+ / 0-)
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      I don't believe in a blind support when it comes to Israel.
      I believe in supporting allies, including Israel, but not when their national interests diverge from ours or when their actions actually compromise American interests.  

      And in answer to Mannie's comment above:

      Since when is supporting Israel an attack on Civil Liberties?
      When any criticism of Israel's policies is met by what can only be characterized as hysterical attempts to silence and demonize the critic.  This is not a new problem and certainly should not be news to anyone.

      A house is no home unless it contains food and fire for the mind as well as the body. - Margaret Fuller

      by penelope pnortney on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:04:05 PM PDT

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      •  Somewhat bizarre claim (1+ / 0-)
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        Mannie
        but not when their national interests diverge from ours or when their actions actually compromise American interests.  

        Exactly how is a boycott of Israel is consistent with US interests and this anti-boycott bill compromises those interests?

  •  The right of a company to get paid by the govmt (3+ / 0-)
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    is not a civil liberty.

    Many (here) have correctly argued that in regards to banning Rush from various airways.

    Me thinks your just unintelligibly ranting.

    •  This is where I disconnect from the diarist's... (1+ / 0-)
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      ...point as well.

      Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

      by The Termite on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 04:30:26 PM PDT

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      •  So you think there would be no legal (1+ / 0-)
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        BMScott

        problem if the government passed a law prohibiting the funding of colleges that, say, had a pro-LGBT policy or signed onto an anti-slave labor initiative.

        I'll grant that it's a contested area of the law, especially on the right (see: the National Endowment for the Arts) but while there is not constitutional guarantee of funding, the 1st Amendment should and does prevent the government from making funding decisions based on political expression.

    •  What is a civil liberty? (2+ / 0-)
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      codairem, BMScott

      By your argument, the Republicans could pass a law banning government contracts for any company (or university) if the top executives donated money to Democrats. I'm sorry, but that's clearly a violation of civil liberties, even if it is the punishment of a company.

      Likewise, it would be a violation of civil liberties if the government banned Rush Limbaugh from broadcasting. I wrote an entire book trashing Rush, but I don't believe in government censorship for anyone. I apologize if believing in academic freedom is unintelligible ranting.

      The Most Dangerous Man in America: Rush Limbaugh's Assault on Reason (www.limbaughbook.com).

      by JohnKWilson on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:06:28 PM PDT

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    •  If the universities (2+ / 0-)
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      were invested in the blood diamond trade in South Africa, and there was a movement to get them to divest and a countervailing attempt by the legislature to withhold funding - would that be a civil liberties issue?  If so, how is that different?

      Isn't banning funds to universities for taking a perfectly legal political position the moral equivalent of giving financial kickbacks to those universities that take the "right" political position?

      Maybe the government should just fund universities, period, and stay out of it otherwise unless they're failing in the mission that qualifies them for the funding.  Which presumably has to do with educational standards, not politics.

      As far as I know, Rush doesn't get government funding, he's a commercial enterprise and subject to those pesky free market forces we're relentlessly told rule the universe.  He got exactly what he deserved.  It's karma, baby.

      A house is no home unless it contains food and fire for the mind as well as the body. - Margaret Fuller

      by penelope pnortney on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:23:29 PM PDT

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    •  Educational institutions whose "product" is (0+ / 0-)

      the teaching of ideas and knowledge (ie an education) has been reduced by your comment to "a company" seems odd.  

      Rush Limbaugh works for a for-profit corporation (different tax status than institutions of higher education, so the government (we) recognize them as different) that sells ad space to other for profit corporations and pay him money as an employee.  

      Most institutions of higher education do not support their missions through the collection of tuition and fees alone, most rely either on government support (this is a societal concept about the importance of an educated citizenry, which is also why we fund public schools) or on the donations of alumni or supporters to their endowments to subsidize that educational product.

      Your comparison in inapt.

      But if your point is that the diarist has not proven or  clearly demonstrated the connection between Grayson's bill and the chilling effect on intellectual freedom or free speech in colleges and universities, I agree.  This diary is not well-written and its content does not support its rather grand title.

      "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of these United States of America -9.75 -6.87

      by Uncle Moji on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:29:53 PM PDT

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      •  Apparently you are uniformed about the reference (0+ / 0-)

        https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/...

        Its not the corp to corp aspect.

        Its the fact that military organizations carry his show. This can legally be banned.

        This is an EXACT comparison. Unless you think that if Rush worked for a non profit the gov's ability decide if they wanted to fund him would be substantially different?

        Either way lolz.

        •  I suspect you meant to use another word (0+ / 0-)

          other than your chosen "uniformed", at least I hope so.

          I read the other petition and your reading comprehension skills remain suspect at best, if you continue to argue that your comparisons are "EXACT".  

          But, clearly, "lolz" is about as clever a riposte as one can muster. Why am I not surprised?

          "Out of Many, One Nation." This is the great promise of these United States of America -9.75 -6.87

          by Uncle Moji on Thu Jun 12, 2014 at 10:17:14 AM PDT

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          •  . (0+ / 0-)

            I dont normally like to leave me posts directly personal. But when I do I like to make them aimed at snootyness boggers.

            How does it make you feel than somone who does not bother to proof reed is less uniformed than you? ;)  It most be irksome to not have been aware of the issue you were responding about. Perhaps it would be good better to spend more time becoming un-unformed about various political initiatives and less on

  •  a lot of state funded unis endorse RW radio (0+ / 0-)

    what if their student body and faculty and employees and community decide to try to force their unis to stop broadcasting sports on those limbaugh/rw stations for political reasons?

    This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

    by certainot on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 05:41:34 PM PDT

    •  I know this is your pet peeve... (0+ / 0-)

      and in some cases it would make a difference. However, if you look at all the teams, in many cases, even for the more successful teams, there frequently is only one good station that is willing to broadcast the college sports. In some cases there are arrangements that by getting to broadcast a successful team, they will provide some coverage to other teams. In many cases, the college goes looking for someone to cover them. There are lots of colleges that can't find anyone to broadcast their games.

      •  perhaps, but i guarantee the main national teams (0+ / 0-)

        are an ad draw for any radio station. why would the major rw radio stations, the loudest in in the state, do it?

        and if not, all the better reason not to do something so negative for no reason at all.

        i'll bet many of the stations they bought up for their propaganda monopoly were chosen not only because they were the loudest but also because they were already parasitizing on those schools.

        schools need to find alts- maybe several stations to do the job of one big limbaugh station, but also internet.

        This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

        by certainot on Wed Jun 11, 2014 at 09:00:54 PM PDT

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  •  Sad. (0+ / 0-)

    I like Grayson but Israel has a complicated problem where in 6 years the Palestinians will outnumber the Jewish population. What do you call a government where the majority has no voice ? America doesn't call them Democracies, We call them APARTHEID.  Trying to stop universities or anyone else from taking actions that they believe will influence the Israelis to come to the table with all the concerned parties will not work. There is plenty of opposition to the craziness of Israel's Right Wing Chicken Hawk leader IN ISRAEL. Israel needs to flush Binyamin Netanyahu and try to do better next time.

  •  Hummus? How about Elbit? (0+ / 0-)

          In the diary this paragraph is significant:

    Grayson’s bill is not limited to academic boycotts. It covers any boycott of any Israeli product or company. So if a university decided not to invest in Israeli companies that are deemed to harm Palestinians, it would lose all federal funding. Want the campus cafeteria to boycott Israeli hummus?
    Hummus is not what is of great concern but instead is the $145 Million ($0.145 Billion) militarization of U.S. borderlands that could grow into about a full $1 Billion to the benefit of a well established Israeli transnational industry with a sphere of influence in which the U.S. is a big pawn.

           Elbit Systems is involved with, according to The Electronic Intifada 8 April 2014,

    ...deaths along the US-Mexico border and huge payouts to Israeli contractors whose military technology has been “battle-proven” on Palestinians living under occupation.
    One outcome of this morass is Elbit expecting to grow huge profits from doing its process and products in the United States. Elbit should come under greater scrutiny but something like H.R.4776, Latest Title: To prohibit an institution of higher education that participates in a boycott of the Israeli government, economy, or academia from receiving funds from the U.S. federal government, removes it from the spotlight that the academic industry can focus on it, making more transparent the linkages between Elbit, the immigration reform bill, the facts of repression in several countries across decades and the current Members of Congress. The bill H.R.4776 is now in the House Committee on Education and the Workforce, a great place to divert and to sequester a controversial legislative measure.

           Closely related to the Elbit funding is Senate Amendment 1183 to S. 744, the Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act that this letter addresses. For what its worth, S.744 was sponsored by Wall Street's Senator, Charles E. Schumer [NY], and was cosponsored by Bennet [CO] Durbin [IL] Flake [AZ] Graham [SC] McCain [AZ] Menendez [NJ] Rubio [FL]. Senate Amendment 1183 had 16 cosponsors.

           There is a lot more in this play than just whether hummus is served in the cafeterias of the many colleges that are stakes holders in the research, development, marketing, sales, installation, maintenance, repair, replacement of the "nuts and bolts" (hardware & software, human presence) of the entire Elbit sphere of influence. When you actually look at the lists of the hundreds of schools opposing the so-called "boycott" and the 270 schools (April, 2014) that get Koch Foundation funding, you might be surprised at the number of schools that are on both lists. The 134 House Members who signed the letter about academic boycott of Israel and condemning the position taken by American Studies Association (ASU) included many of the pro-Israel Members of Congress (despite the deep involvement Israel has with the research, development, sales and implementation of weaponized drone technology) but in the context of this reply to the above diary by JohnKWilson, I wonder what money trails might link Elbit and these U.S. Representatives, including Rep. Grayson.

  •  HR (2+ / 0-)
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    konving, dallasdunlap

    This HR is the main reason why this whole hide-rate thing needs to be reformed or eliminated.

  •  The Likud are racists and terrorists (0+ / 0-)

    Israel was born of terrorism (see King David Hotel bombing).  Not all Israeli are terrorists or racists, but a major political party, with a great deal of control when it comes to the Israeli government, had its root in terrorism.  There is a similarity between the Likud and Hamas, and it is not a pretty similarity.  Menachem Begin was a terrorist, there are no two ways about it, and Israel is forever tainted.  Golda Maier redeemed the country, but it is sliding into its original, fundamentalist Jewish origins.   Like all religious fundamentalism, it is the enemy of free peoples everywhere, and Israel cannot get a handle on its fundamentalists and the Israeli government exists because of common goals shared by the fundamentalists and the Likud.  When zionist fundamentalists and muslim fundamentalists collide, there will be no compromise.  Hate for Israel is the only thing that Sunni and Shiite agree on, and Israel is the root of the problems we face in the Middle East.  In the course of world history, this will not end well.

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