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Some days it feels like there's never going to be an end to fact-checking Republican anti-Obamacare ads. So once again my friends, into the breach with The Washington Post's Glenn Kessler, and an Obamacare attack ad against Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC).
This advertisement from the pro-GOP group Crossroads GPS is almost like an oldies record of top tunes lambasting the Affordable Care Act—and it has the same dated feel as well. Just about everything in this ad has been called into question before, with the exception of its opening scenes—which highlight that our colleagues at PolitiFact had deemed President Obama’s promise that you could keep your health-care plan the "Lie of the Year."

No argument about that–Obama’s statement was also one of the Biggest Pinocchios of 2013—but even the Lie of the Year reference seems dated. (We have seen it in what feels like a gadzillion ads.)

Yeah, that was kind of a bone-headed talking point. But that one stupid assertion by Democrats is totally drowned out in the tsunami of lies that Republicans and their supporters have created. And there's a bunch of them in this ad:
  • "Hagan's Vote Passed Obamacare"—yes, Hagan voted for it. Along with 55 other senators. There was no one deciding vote that passed it.
  • "473,724 North Carolinians Received Insurance Cancellations"—the state says 183,821 policies were cancelled before the administration announced rules to allow insurers to keep offering old policies for at least another year. And according to our friend Charles Gaba (brainwrap), 357,584 policies were sold on the North Carolina exchange. Which more than doubles the actual number of cancellations. Seems like a moot talking point by now.
  • "Obamacare cut Medicare $700 billion+"—Really? We really have to do this one again? Cuts to Medicare Advantage hit providers, not beneficiaries. And it's over 10 years. And Republicans voted for the same cuts in all of Paul Ryan's budgets. And oh yeah, "the Obama health-care law also raised Medicare payroll taxes by $318 billion over the new 10-year time frame, further strengthening the program’s financial condition."

Kessler's frustration with this bullshit is starting to show: "Unlike wine, tired talking points don't age well." No, they don't. Particularly after the remarkable early success of the law, and the fact that for the vast majority of Americans, it hasn't made the sky fall. Republicans are really going to have to do better.

Originally posted to Joan McCarter on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:21 AM PDT.

Also republished by Daily Kos.

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  •  Tip Jar (25+ / 0-)

    "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. [...] There would be no place to hide."--Frank Church

    by Joan McCarter on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:21:42 AM PDT

  •  They do it because it works with some people. (10+ / 0-)

    Lies, bigger lies, and biggest lies.

    Join us on the Black Kos front porch to review news and views written from a black pov—everyone is welcome.

    by TomP on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:23:48 AM PDT

  •  With all of these ads why is Hagan up 5%? (7+ / 0-)

    Hagan lead up to 5 with unpopular legislature in session

    (Today's PPP).

    Actually my son had his insurance policy cancelled then uncanceled and then he got good insurance.

    And I saved a boat load of money on colonoscopies.

    The highest form of spiritual practice is self observation with compassion.

    by NCJim on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:43:26 AM PDT

  •  What, no taxpayer funded abortionplexes? (3+ / 0-)

    "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --M. L. King "You can't fix stupid" --Ron White -6.00, -5.18

    by zenbassoon on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:54:16 AM PDT

  •  I'm waiting for Obama captured Ahmed Abu Khattala (0+ / 0-)

    to distractt from "failing Obamacare!"

    Com'on Republicans, don't make me wait too long.

  •  You may have liked your doctor, but (1+ / 0-)
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    the reason why you aren't able to keep seeing them may be because they're just not that into you.  At least at the rate the insurer was willing to pay them to be into you.

  •  "You can keep your truly worthless plan"... (2+ / 0-)
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    Yonit, hbk

    ...was hardly a better talking point. And it was certainly a much worse policy point.

    it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses

    by Addison on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 04:53:27 PM PDT

  •  The "lie of the year" award (1+ / 0-)
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    seemed like guilt speaking to me.

    When Obama first said that about the ACA, all the specifics were available, in the fairly high-level details of the program, for a reporter to challenge it. But they didn't.  The self-appointed truth squads evidently decided that would be too much like real work.

    Obama should be a little embarrassed for his over-simplification. And the truth squads should be hiding in shame for failing to add value, at the right time, in the one place where they are expected to.

  •  Remember last Fall through about March? (3+ / 0-)
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    Mayfly, Waimer, hbk

    Everyone thought the Republicans were going to run against the ACA; that it was a winner? The GOP was elated.

    By September, Republicans are are going to be running away from their lies. Running and hiding.

    If the Dems play this right, they can use this as a weapon. For example:

    16,035 - The number of FLORIDA citizens who will be deliberately killed in 2014 by withholding medical care available to them through the Federal Government.
    We now have those numbers.

    The Republican Death Eaters.

  •  I guess it's better then the Benghazi ad. (0+ / 0-)


  •  Rethugs Take Pride in Their Shameless Dishonesty (1+ / 0-)
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    they're just JEALOUS that the president got the award that they've monopolized.

  •  Those with policy cancellations (0+ / 0-)

    Those folks with policy cancellations know who they are.

    They also know they have a new and better policy.

    And most people had ZERO impact from ObamaCare.

    If anything, the majority of people impacted by ObamaCare have had a net positive experience.

    The more the GOP tries to lie (like in the ad above), the more that even uninformed voters will come to realize that the GOP has, once again, found themselves on the wrong side of history.

  •  i got into a bit of an argument (0+ / 0-)

    w/someone who blamed the nations woes on ACA-though they said obamacare. then someone else said their mom had to pay the penalty because her ins. is too high bout $400 which she cant afford.
    Im in NC. this ACA hate isnt going away and im not up to speed on most of it to be able to rebut these comments.

  •  One small correction I noticed, the ad said Kay... (0+ / 0-)

    One small correction I noticed, the ad said Kay Hagan's vote "helped" pass Obamacare....not just "passed Obamacare" like her vote was the deciding one. I listened twice just to make sure and that is true but I don't see the problem with that.

    Her vote helped how many people? Exactly, so great news for her. Here's the doesn't matter how many ads the right put out because people know now their experience with the ACA. Everyone is now aware of what has happened in their personal health care experience. If they have been helped with the ACA (or even know someone who has) and they got better care for less money and have been able to find a good doc close to them and been able get good health care using it....then these ads are a big lie to them and they know it. It will only help us in the end.

  •  Joan, you know what would really help? If we (0+ / 0-)

    could start the meme here at Daily Kos (and hopefully push it via social media links) which stops the LIE of:

    We lost our insurance! It was cancelled because of Obamacare!
    Even here at the bastion of liberal and progressives across the land, I see this lie repeated.
    NO ONE, and I mean not one single person LOST THEIR INSURANCE. Unless they didn't pay their premium, that is.
    A whole lot of people had their current plan cancelled in a notice from their insurance company which ALSO told them them had XX days to choose a new plan, so that they would not have in interruption of coverage.

    Does any rational person think that healthcare insurance companies were willing to just toss paying customers out the door?

    Insurance companies have been sending just such notices to customers regularly, for years now. Practically for every year for a whole lot of people.

    I'd just like to see SOMEONE somewhere push back against this fallacious line of malarkey that the rwnj cohort of the mass media likely got in some bullet-point memo from one of the Koch Bros conservative think tanks.

    The PPACA/Obamacare DID NOT in any instance cause any single person to lose their Insurance. They just had to chose a different plan. Because their PLAN got cancelled.

    It's not rocket science, but then, for the idiot lunatics in charge of the Right side of the political aisle in these United States I guess pretty much everything looks like a science project they are unable to understand these days.

    "I like paying taxes...with them, I buy Civilization"

    by Angie in WA State on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 07:05:24 PM PDT

  •  The US Govt issues the US dollar. There is no such (0+ / 0-)

    thing as "strengthening the program's financial condition" for the issuer of the dollar.

    Please stop misleading readers about the nature of Govt taxing and spending, the Govt's budget is not like a household budget and is dependent on income. This is a right wing argument that hurts the progressive cause.

    "The Earth is my country and Science my religion" Christiaan Huygens. The gold standard ended on August 15, 1971, its time we start acting like it. If we can afford full employment killing Germans, we can afford full employment during peace-time.

    by Auburn Parks on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 07:25:45 PM PDT

    •  Is "NOT" dependent on income. (0+ / 0-)

      "The Earth is my country and Science my religion" Christiaan Huygens. The gold standard ended on August 15, 1971, its time we start acting like it. If we can afford full employment killing Germans, we can afford full employment during peace-time.

      by Auburn Parks on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 07:26:37 PM PDT

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