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Republicans have offered different theories as to why six days of early voting makes more sense than six weeks. Last week, state Rep. Paul Curtman (R-Pacific) told the Missourian that six weeks of early voting would give voters too much time to commit voter fraud. (Between 2000 and 2010, there were 13 credible cases of in-person voter impersonation nationwide.) State Sen. Brian Nieves (R-Washington) said that six weeks of early voting "invites and begs" voter fraud, because it's not uncommon for people to lie about their addresses, or to have people vote who are not registered. Mother Jones reached out to both Curtman and Nieves for information about documented voter fraud cases in Missouri, but did not receive a response.
At issue is whether to allow early voting in Missouri for six weeks (the number requested by public petition drive) or six days but-with-no-weekend-voting (the counter-proposal by state Republicans.) It is not clear why having more time to vote would "invite" more voter fraud. Does the frauder need those weeks to case out the polling place? Is there some scenario where the bad man who has planned all summer to kill his neighbor, put on his clothes and vote in his place says, "No good—I can't complete this operation in six days. If I had seven, maybe, but it'll take six days just to map out the layout of the heating ducts."

And all of this to combat a crime spree that, over the span of a decade, has proceeded at the breakneck pace of one, perhaps two, such crimes in the entire nation during any given year. I'm no statistician, but I'm fairly sure more people are beaten to death with Olive Garden breadsticks each year than have been committing voter fraud. You put a whole decade's worth of hardened voter-impersonating criminals in the same prison cell, you'd barely have enough to stage a Last Supper re-enactment. Darrell Issa leaks more government papers than that between breakfast and lunch.

Alternatively, we could suspect that the insistence that weekend voting not be allowed is of keen interest to Republicans because it would mean that no matter how long you extended early voting, people with weekday jobs would still find it hard to vote. But that would be rude, since we know the problem of widespread voter fraud is just this close to someday being a thing. Like poem-reciting tigers in congressional restrooms, just because you haven't seen any lately doesn't mean they're not there.

Originally posted to Hunter on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:46 AM PDT.

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  •  Translation (32+ / 0-)

    Early voting makes it easier for Democrats to get their people to the polls.

    "That being said, I do agree I am going to hell. But for other reasons. Mostly boring tax stuff ' Amy Pohler

    by Annie B on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 11:49:11 AM PDT

  •  It's upsetting to hear . . . (16+ / 0-)

    . . . blanket statements that accuse people of dishonesty, as if they were all Republicans.  Regular people have ethics and don't generally abuse the systems in place that govern voting.  There's a reason there's only 13 cases of voter fraud in the last ten years -- people are honest.  Except for Republican politicians, it seems.  

    •  And of those 13 cases (3+ / 0-)
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      I wonder how many were Republicans trying to make a point, James O'Keefe style?   I'm guessing, most.  And the others were probably just idiots confused about their actual status.

      "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

      by lgmcp on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:34:38 PM PDT

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  •  It's June 17.....Franco is still dead and Goopers (6+ / 0-)

    are still stoopid.

  •  These Repugs are projecting their mindset (6+ / 0-)

    They are thinking of doing voter fraud and they believe others would do the same.

    Daily Kos an oasis of truth. Truth that leads to action.

    by Shockwave on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 12:27:57 PM PDT

  •  Apparently "voter fraud" means "colored people ... (9+ / 0-)

    Apparently "voter fraud" means "colored people voting."

  •  East Kansas is jealous of what Kansas is doing... (6+ / 0-)

    I love my job; and my family loves our home and friends; but living in this god-forsaken hell hole of bigotry and fools is a daily grind for me...I frequently think about what might have been if I had looked to move a few years earlier...

    •  It is not an easy place to live and work but you (3+ / 0-)
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      are a progressive blue beacon in a sea of red.  Who knows, you might be able to convert a friend or coworker. Tnen say you leave Kansas someday, you will have planted at least one small seed.   It is like my cousin living in a very red area of a red state, He found out years after living that his old friend there had enough of the GOP , remembered what my cousin said years earlier, emailed him to say..You were right  ...and he is working as chair of a local Democratic committee and doing GOTV.

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      by wishingwell on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:51:52 PM PDT

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  •  Such a transparent scheme (6+ / 0-)

    to keep groups more likely to be registered Democrats from voting, just like the driver's license rules- the only people I know who don't have a driver's license are elderly who don't drive, people in large urban areas who don't need to drive or are too poor to afford it, the disabled, and environmentalists who object on principal. All democrats. And that no weekend crap really hacks me off- like God forbid people who aren't able to take off work, or flat out can't afford the time off, should get to vote! People like that aren't rich- who cares what they want.

    •  Well, not all those elderly who don't drive (3+ / 0-)
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      are democrats.

      In addition, many people who can't take off work have to work weekends as well as weekdays, or have irregular schedules.

      Which is a big part of the reason why they vote early - they can't be sure they'll be able to get to the polls on any particular day, but they WILL be able to get there over 2, 3, or more, weeks of voting.

      Frankly, I think there should be at least a few locations in an area where you can vote 7-11, 7 days a week, for the 2 weeks before the official election day.

      Most people would be able to vote if we did that.

    •  voter ID Drivers licence car owners (0+ / 0-)

      Are more likely to be somebody who would vote republican. the computers laid the plan out for them very well. They are working the numbers that the machine gave them.  

      •  In TN, our so called motor voter bill also (0+ / 0-)

        offers voter registration to anyone applying for any form of public assistance- and Republicans REALLY screamed bloody murder over that.  Does it not do that everywhere?

  •  Hunter, you're one of my favorite (6+ / 0-)

    diarists here.

    "Does the frauder need those weeks to case out the polling place?"

    "Is there some scenario where the bad man who has planned all summer to kill his neighbor, put on his clothes and vote in his place says, "No good—I can't complete this operation in six days. If I had seven, maybe, but it'll take six days just to map out the layout of the heating ducts."

     "Like poem-reciting tigers in congressional restrooms, just because you haven't seen any lately doesn't mean they're not there."

    I have a busy afternoon and you've given me enough chuckles to get me through.

    “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

    by weezilgirl on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 01:07:26 PM PDT

  •  Hell, let's just eliminate any possibility ... (2+ / 0-)
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    of voter fraud...ever. Let's suspend the right to vote, and install a monarchy. Do we have any useless, rich families that America would be proud to parade around in a gilded carriage?


    I think clowns wear makeup just to get my attention. Actually, I’m more of the big shoe type.

    by glb3 on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 01:27:01 PM PDT

  •  Warned about this repeatedly over the last (1+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne

    Few months, as Republicans have gone to townhall after townhall telling people terrible stories, and they point to elections of democratic officials in their state and claim it was all voter fraud.

    There 'early voting' initiative they have put forward, which will appear at the same time as another voting initiative is an abomination.  It confuses the voter, limits early voting to really 5 days, and makes sure you can't vote on weekends or after 5PM.

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    by Chris Reeves on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:41:46 PM PDT

    •  There are wingnuts who believe Obama stole 2 (4+ / 0-)
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      elections with the help of the Black Panthers. They believe that rot even though neither election was close.  It was not down to one state like it has been for Bush twice. The President won both of his terms convincingly with more than enough electoral votes..no question there. Whereas it came down to Florida once for Bush and then Ohio once for Bush.  

      So the best comeback I have for when they insist Democrats steal elections and the Presidency, I say...

      Well if we steal elections, we did a piss poor job of that in 2000 and 2004 when it was damn close.  

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      by wishingwell on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:55:30 PM PDT

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  •  This reminds me of (2+ / 0-)
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    a very very old joke.

    Why do elephants paint their toenails red?
    To hide in the cherry trees.

    Did you ever see an elephant hiding in a cherry tree?
    No.
    See? It really works!

    Which makes as much sense as longer early voting = rampant voter fraud.

  •  GOP Voter Suppression (0+ / 0-)

    and tales of Voter Fraud are the biggest fraud in US Electoral History.  

    Just wait, one of these days Faux News will tell the tale.

    If Money is Speech, Speech isn't Free! I wonder what it is about that that Antonin Scalia cannot understand?

    by NM Ray on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:44:06 PM PDT

  •  Missouri Republicans warn… (2+ / 0-)
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    Missouri Republicans warn early voting 'invites and begs' fraud…

    While being a Republican guarantees Fraud.

    Choose wisely.

    I would tell you the only word in the English language that has all the vowels in order but, that would be facetious.

    by roninkai on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:44:12 PM PDT

  •  We need one less right wing ass on SCOTUS (2+ / 0-)
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    bench.

    48forEastAfrica - Donate to Oxfam> "It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness." Edna St.V. Millay

    by slouching on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:47:19 PM PDT

  •  Prove voter fraud GOP/KKK aholes (0+ / 0-)

    I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

    by a2nite on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:51:34 PM PDT

  •  The real Question is who committed the fraud (2+ / 0-)
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    Think about it ???  why is the Righteous Right and Republican party so afraid of the very Flawed system that got them into power ???  Remember the Florida Al Gore Elections..

    Here in North Carolina during the primary election  the North Carolina Board of Elections elections results web page started reporting that 100% of the districts were done counting  only a few hours into the primary.

    This was the first time that this reporting error had ever happened on the North Carolina elections web site.

    It would have given journalist using the otherwise reliable site the false impression that the Republicans were winning early into the election. The GOP was quick to bury the reporting issue in othe distractions

    As it turns out the company that the State contracted for the voting system had been busted for routing the voting machine results directly to the Republican headquarters during the Romney/obama election.

    It is said that a criminal mind alway fears that a crime against them will be committed ...

  •  If I'm not mistaken.... (2+ / 0-)
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    Wouldn't it give more time to check ballots for potential red flags?  As usual, the Republican arguments for 'anti-fraud' laws make no sense.

  •  Early voting actually makes in-person fraud, (3+ / 0-)
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    which doesn't regularly occur, harder to get away with.  The more people who vote and sooner, the less opportunity to be impersonated without getting caught.  

    There is some greater potential for abuse with absentee ballot fraud, but in-person early voting has nothing to do with that.  I'ts absentee balloting but in the presence of an election administrator, so it's to be encouraged.  

    Any systematized absentee ballot fraud (which could actually work) or in-person voting fraud (which couldn't), requires the cooperation of one (or more) campaign(s) and the election administrators, so shifting the burden onto the voters is senseless.  Two swing an election, one would have to requests absentee ballots sufficient quantities in others voters' names and have them sent elsewhere, or else create new fake registrants who'd also request, and the election administrators would have to disregard the procedures they typically have in place to verify requests not to catch that.  A handful of ballots, maybe, but nothing like what could swing an election without complicity.  But it could work better than in-person fraud if a campaign obtained that cooperation, since you can't know if the volunteers at the polls know the voter, the person already showed up, etc.  

    It'd be easier just to devote the time and energy to getting your voters to actually show up.  Impersonating other voters takes manpower, which could get better results knocking doors, and campaigns already know this.

    Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

    by Loge on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:57:30 PM PDT

  •  They're not going to give up on this, (1+ / 0-)
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    are they?  It's all they have left to offer their base and the American public.  

    It makes me laugh to think that here in GA, where the republicans run the show, that they would try to plead voter fraud.  Wouldn't that mean they didn't know how to run elections?  Is that what they're saying nationwide where they attempt this?  That they're incompetent?

    The GOP will destroy anything they can't own.

    by AnnieR on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 02:59:34 PM PDT

  •  Republicans used to benefit from early voting (0+ / 0-)

    Tom Bradley would have been elected Governor of California in 1982 had there been no early voting -- Bradley actually won among those who voted on election day.

  •  There will be fraud all right (1+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne

    But it won't be from the voters.  

    If the Republicans can get away with stopping voters getting to the ballot box, and make sure the Democrats lose by any means,  they will do it.  

    Fraud isn't a big problem among American voters.  However, we do remember what happened in Florida.  Then they were successful on getting the big W re-elected.

    If the framers of the constitution came back today, they would pass among the Republicans/Tea Party with their uniform swords.  This is a sad end to the Republicans  They were once a very good party.

    •  "They were once a very good party." (1+ / 0-)
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      perhaps, "a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away"

      but here, since FDR, not so much

      America's LAST HOPE: vote the GOP OUT in 2014 elections. MAKE them LOSE the House Majority and reduce their numbers in the Senate. Democrats move America forward - Republicans take us backward and are KILLING OUR NATION!

      by dagnome on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 03:36:57 PM PDT

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      •  Yeah before 1876 nt (2+ / 0-)
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        I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

        by a2nite on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 05:38:58 PM PDT

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        •  I'd be willing to give them some credit for Ike (0+ / 0-)

          but one exception every hundred years is a bit thin

          America's LAST HOPE: vote the GOP OUT in 2014 elections. MAKE them LOSE the House Majority and reduce their numbers in the Senate. Democrats move America forward - Republicans take us backward and are KILLING OUR NATION!

          by dagnome on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 08:13:07 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

  •  Here's the basics difference (1+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne

    in the conservative vs. liberal mind-set (in general). Conservatives do not trust anyone. The unemployed are all 'lazy'. The working poor on food stamps are all 'moochers'. Immigrants, homosexuals and Hollywood all want to 'destroy America'. Climate change is a One World Government™ conspiracy. Saying 'Happy Holidays' is a War on Christmas™. Muslims are all terrorists. They seem to think everyone would commit a crime if given the slightest chance (well, except them).

  •  Perhaps they'll compromise: 3 weeks early voting, (0+ / 0-)

    but you have to vote nekkid - plus the poll "observers" are armed and standing right behind you (nekkidity optional).

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    by here4tehbeer on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 03:16:23 PM PDT

  •  I can only think of (1+ / 0-)
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    Ahianne

    Schwerner, Cheney and Goodman - murdered in the first wave of anti-voting zeal 50 years ago this month. This is the second. This time no bullets necessary, some cheating Republican "lawmakers" (if you call following ALEC lawmaking) and the Supreme Court.

  •  Like Windsong01 said.. (1+ / 0-)
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    Kind of funny how none of the voter fraud these yahoos are so worried about involve voting machines.  Especially cuz there's WAY more documented cases of the voting machines behaving badly than there are of the actual voters behaving badly.  I think we should sign up to be entirely on board with combating voter fraud, provided we get to install some draconian rules about voting machines in return.

    "Actually, I just like saying Benghazi. Benghazi benghazi benghazi benghazi!" --Rep. Darrell Issa, R-CA

    by jackdabastard on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 03:20:22 PM PDT

  •  If voter fraud were real (1+ / 0-)
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    it would be easy to prove.

    But there is no evidence of voter fraud.

    That's because it does not exit.

    The GOP's "voter ID" efforts are designed for one purpose:  to reduce the Democratic vote.  Their irrational insistence on the "voter fraud" canard -- in the absence of evidence -- is just another coordinated lie by a members of a political party that must cheat in order to win.

    IMO, they are beneath contempt.

    •  The forever whining about alleged Voter Fraud is (0+ / 0-)

      Nothing more that a cover story that the GOP uses to quill  public opinion and rage that might arise while they engage in voter suppression. It is just that simple.

      The GOP is the all-time master of saying that they are doing something for the "Public Good" while actually engaging in near criminal behavior or unconstitutional behavior. They like all politicians are great lairs.

      Al Copone best put it " the Only Way to Beat the Law is Become the Law"  

  •  The heating duct line got me (1+ / 0-)
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    I burst into laughter and everyone outside my office looked at me funny.

    Thanks a lot.

    Fuck.

    Almost everything you do will seem insignificant, but it is most important that you do it.

    by The Termite on Tue Jun 17, 2014 at 04:26:04 PM PDT

  •  I saw a man in the stall today. (0+ / 0-)

    Oh how I wish he'd go away.

    (Overheard in the congressional men's room, spoken by a bengal tiger).

    Please know I am not rude. I cannot rec anything from this browser. When I rec or post diaries I am a guest at some exotic locale's computer. Ayn is the bane!

    by Floyd Blue on Wed Jun 18, 2014 at 04:48:17 AM PDT

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