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Should the school administrators behind these decisions be charged as accessories after the fact?

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  •  Ugh (8+ / 0-)

    I just read about this a couple minutes ago. Disgusting.

    Two hundred fifty years of slavery. Ninety years of Jim Crow. Sixty years of separate but equal. Thirty-five years of racist housing policy. Until we reckon with our compounding moral debts, America will never be whole. - Ta-Nehisi Coates

    by moviemeister76 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 10:37:05 AM PDT

  •  Sex crimes should be referred to real police, (11+ / 0-)

    not campus security guards, and administrators who cover up these offenses should be prosecuted.

    •  In fact, (6+ / 0-)

      failure to do so should be considered a criminal act.

      "Much of movement conservatism is a con and the base is the marks." -- Chris Hayes

      by raptavio on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 12:25:33 PM PDT

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    •  The victim... (4+ / 0-)
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      apparently did not want to involve the police from either where the attack occurred or from where she lived. The article states that her father is a policeman. I'm not sure why she felt that way, but that was her decision.

      The article also mentions that the student handbook lists that the harshest punishment for this type of offense was suspension - not expulsion. I'm not going to take the time to read the entire handbook, but if that is the case, then the school had a big problem and probably felt that what they went for was the best they could do since the authorities were not going to be involved in any way. I'll assume that the handbook does reserve the right for them to discipline students for certain crimes even if they occur off campus or when school is not in session. If it doesn't, then that is another problem they had to deal with. This is a mess. It just smells like a compromise that the school was attempting to do to get some form of discipline for these troglodytes to stick. I have a feeling that since the police weren't involved and since the head of the school's judicial affairs admitted that from the tape, it wasn't clear if the activity was consensual or not, that if the school had gone for much more, the male students would have sued and might well have prevailed.

      Hopefully JMU will get their handbook and other guiding documents updated so that any future incidents like this can be properly and quickly handled.

      Too many colleges and universities have student handbooks and acceptable behavior guidelines that are way too loosey-goosey.  It takes an incident such as this to point out the problem. I think most assume that in cases like this, regular criminal law will properly punish the offenders. However, in cases such as this, if the victim refuses to involve the police, there isn't enough in writing to ensure an appropriate sanction.

      Also, after the Duke lacrosse team mess, many schools went back and strengthened their due process procedures for those accused of misdeeds.

      •  Wow (0+ / 1-)
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        So, punishment for a felony is just like picking your buggers in grade school??   What a fine institution, it should be burned to the ground with the administration still inside...

        •  You will be doing a lot of burning.... (3+ / 0-)
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          because I think you will find an awful lot of schools who would be even more lenient for an action such as this because of holes or ambiguities in their student handbooks.  For many schools, the handbook allows them to act after a court decision. They aren't equipped to be the determining arbitrator in the absence of legal authority. It's a problem but it is what it is.

          Also, you might want to edit your comment. I know that calling for violence is frowned on here. I'd don't HR as a matter of principle, but others probably will.

          •  Student handbooks? (4+ / 0-)
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            Mannie, MKSinSA, Penny GC, Leslie Salzillo

            There are LAWS against rape that supersede a school handbook.

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            by Horace Boothroyd III on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 01:09:01 PM PDT

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            •  Horace.... (3+ / 0-)
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              do you even read your own links? Even though her father is a policeman, for some reason she decided not to file a complaint in either the jurisdiction of the crime scene or in the jurisdiction of her residence. I don't know why, but she didn't. In most cases, if there is no complaint, there is no crime - especially if it was not witnessed by a legal authority. That left the school having to adjudicate the mess. The school is bound by their handbook. That is the way it should be and the way I certainly argue it should be. For whatever reason, the JMU handbook states that the maximum punishment for sexual assault is suspension.

              If a law says that the maximum sentence for robbery is 10 years, you don't get to throw some criminal in jail for 20 years - even if it was an especially nasty robbery. Would you want it any differently? As I posted previously, hopefully JMU will edit their handbook, but until they do, that is what goes.

              If the young woman is unsatisfied with what was adjudicated by JMU, she can always file a criminal complaint. I doubt that the statue of limitations is an issue yet.

              I have to admit that I'm really mystified as to why she never filed a criminal complaint. In some ways, that leads me to believe there is more to this case than has been revealed, but that's the way it is. Or it could well be that she just didn't want the invasion and reliving of the incident that would come with a criminal prosecution.

              •  Irrelevant (2+ / 0-)
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                That is not for her to decide.

                The police/da should decide if they have a case. Expecting a victim of interpersonal violence to be strong enough to want to press charges is ridiculous when other women are at risk.

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                by Horace Boothroyd III on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 01:33:02 PM PDT

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                •  Well... (0+ / 0-)

                  She is a public figure now so I suggest that you contact her and tell her to stop being a slacker and get cracking!

                  Come on - if she isn't going to cooperate, there is no way you could ever get a conviction and probably not even an indictment.

                •  Do you want to subpoena her.... (1+ / 0-)
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                  cville townie

                  and call her as a hostile witness and put her through that?

                  •  Domestic Violence victims are not forced to charge (1+ / 0-)
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                    Leslie Salzillo

                    Why do we force victims of rape, which shares the same social dynamics, to be the one deciding?

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                    by Horace Boothroyd III on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 04:21:00 PM PDT

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                    •  There is no charge... (0+ / 0-)

                      if it was not witnessed by police and the victim doesn't make a call. In domestic violence when there is a charge, the police have been called and they investigate and make a determination as a witness to injuries and information obtained from neighbors. It is correct that in some states this is done even without cooperation of the victim and even if the victim later recants. In this case, there is only her and she doesn't want to do anything. There was the video, but apparently it just shows drunken playing around which might or might have been sexual assault or might have been consensual (I'm only going by what was reported - I haven't seen the video). The police did not witness or investigate and she is the only witness so if she doesn't want to claim sexual imposition, then there is nothing that can be done.

                      If she doesn't want to testify and if the video is not conclusive (other than a possible invasion of privacy) then how would you convince the police or a DA that a crime was committed.?I know you feel that the case should be made without her cooperation, but how could that be done without evidence? Seriously?

              •  There is NO statute of limitations (1+ / 0-)
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                on rape in Virginia. Hopefully she has competent counsel who would tell her that.

                •  I think that is the case in most states... (0+ / 0-)

                  However, this is one thing that really ticks me off about Horace. He takes something that is good information and blows it out of reality with hyperbole. He constantly does this. There was no rape and she never alleged that. There was probably sexual assault - the video apparently showed her topless with the males attempting to grab her breasts and untie her swimsuit bottoms, but I guess everyone was drunk and partying. If this was against her will, then that certainly would be sexual assault/harassment which is what she alleged in her JMU complaint. I've haven't seen any report where she alleged rape. Horace keeps yelling "Rape, rape, rape" but I don't see anything to back that up.

                  Now, I don't want to downplay this at all, either. Sexual assault is in no way a good thing. If it really did occur, then the guys should be punished and it looks like they actually got more than what the JMU handbook calls for. They should consider themselves very lucky that she didn't take this matter to the legal authorities. Why she doesn't, I don't know, but that is her call. I'm very much for a balanced legal system. I think JMU did pretty much what they were allowed to as dictated by their student handbook. If the young lady is unsatisfied with that outcome, she has the option to take it to the legal authorities. If she doesn't want to do that, that is her choice, but I can't agree with all the complaints that she got a bad deal out of this or that JMU somehow is a terrible place or that their administrators should be prosecuted.

          •  Comment's can't be edited (2+ / 0-)
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            ..after they're posted. This, however, is a clear call for violence and I have no qualms about throwing a donut. Horace, you ought to reconsider your uprate. I know you're outraged - the situation is outrageous - but that does not justify KB55's comment.

            Cogito, ergo Democrata.

            by Ahianne on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 04:04:16 PM PDT

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  •  I read the JMU student handbook... (0+ / 0-)

    For sexual assault, the strongest disciplinary action is suspension - not expulsion. Therefore, the school seems to have gone above what they are allowed to do as stated in their own handbook.

    As to the poll, I think the only person you could charge as an accessory  would be the author of the handbook - and he/she would have to be charged as an accessory before the fact! The administration seems to have threaded the needle and obtained a more strident disciplinary action than they were permitted by their own guidelines.

    It's not a good thing, but it is what it is. Due process is important, also.

  •  And then there is Bob Jones Univ (7+ / 0-)

       Where a woman who seeks counselling for rape is told that somewhere in her life, she committed some sin - and this was the retribution for that sin.    Rape is retribution for some unknown / mystical sin?

    •  Original sin according to their book. (2+ / 0-)
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      They make it the woman's fault before she even matures into a woman.

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      by Horace Boothroyd III on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 01:10:12 PM PDT

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    •  Well... (4+ / 0-)

      that's another issue entirely.

      My daughter was being hounded by a youth minister to attend the college where he got his degree. I decided to take a look at what it might offer. On one of those sites where students review their college visit and college attendance experiences, the following witty review was posted...

      Whatsamatter U

      If you're white you'll do alright...
      If you're black, just don't come back!
      If you're gay, stay far away!
      If you're Asian, you're the wrong persuasion.

      She received  a very nice diving scholarship from a much different, top notch school. That is where she ended up.

      There are many religiously affiliated schools that are top notch such as Notre Dame, Wheaton, Fordham, BYU, Georgetown and many, many others. Unfortunately, most of the small places and Bible colleges are simply whacko indoctrination centers.

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