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I know, I know, obviously, you're all saying, YES, but I can't in good faith leave the diary so short.

But the point is, as bad as the House of Representatives has been these past few years, is it possible that they could get even worse?

Based on Cantor's primary defeat, and Kevin McCarthy's move to replace him as the leader of the House Republicans, it makes me wonder, why would any Republican want to be in that position?

McCarthy comes from a Red district. A really Red district. He's just asking for a credible Tea Party challenger. Maybe credible isn't the right word. But you know what I mean. Someone that challenges him from the Right.

Sure, they didn't come for him this cycle. But now he's the Majority Leader. He's now got a huge bullseye on his back. No, not from those of us on the Left. That bullseye is courtesy of his own base.

And this is with California's top two electoral system. Which means the Tea Party will likely get two chances at him.

That is, unless McCarthy gets ahead of the challenge and stakes a claim to an extremely partisan House agenda. More than we've already seen. Which is also probably likely.

He'll pretty much have to. The Tea Party now has Cantor under their belt. We know how much such a victory will embolden them. Sure, their actions may not be well grounded in actual evidence, but when has that ever stopped them from doing anything, ever? Sure, the majority of the analyses say that it wasn't at all Tea Party anger that ousted Cantor, but I'm sure that's not gonna stop them from claiming as much.

I mean, Cantor was no RINO. He was about as conservative as they get. A fitting representative to represent the majority of the Republican Party. And that still wasn't conservative enough for the far Right.

Even Boehner has to deal with these challenges. Again, not exactly a hardcore liberal there. It's hard to measure who the Tea Party targets more, Democrats or their own Party's leaders.

Of course, I'm not portraying this as a good thing. The more of a stranglehold the Tea Party has on the overall Republican Party, the harder it is to get any actual governing done.

Still, one has to wonder how long they will continue to entertain this internal schism. How long can they? They just forced one of their leading icons into an early lobbying gig. Another, Thad Cochran, is currently on the ropes. It's about to get really Tea up in this 'Pub Party.

And I don't buy into any notion that the GOP Establishment is ready to quash this anytime soon. Just follow the money. They made similar claims when Akin refused to quit his race, but in the end they forked it over. Brat and McDaniels will also likely be getting the 80's movie montage makeovers real soon.

What's my point? That the House is probably going to be even more dysfunctional? That the GOP is going to lurch even further to the Right now? And threatens to take the rest of us with it?

How about this: Democrats need to capitalize on every single one of these opportunities.

Does it make sense that a Democratic candidate can come into a really red district where two Conservative candidates are dividing up the LC denominator votes and actually snatch up enough votes to win?

Well, it's probably not easy by any measure. But where there's a will, there's a way.

Even in the Reddest Presidential district in 2012, Obama won 18% of the popular vote.

Imagine if the other 80% are split by two, maybe three GOP candidates. If the moderate conservative makes it to the General election, hey Democratic candidate, just convince 32% of that 80% that a Dem is better than a chickenshit flip flopping RINO. If the Tea Partier wins, then Democratic candidate, just point out to the moderate conservatives, hey, you're about to elect a loon.

And that's not even considering Cali's top-two system that McCarthy has to face. In a Presidential-year, with a Tea Partier gumming up the works, who's to say a Democrat couldn't find themselves on top in this red district.

The Democratic establishment needs to try. They need to field viable candidates for these races. Because considering the alternative - more GOP obstructionsim - these are districts that we can't afford to leave to their own devices.

So, this has been one of my less coherent posts. But I hope you get the gist.

Originally posted to The Progressive Atheist on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 10:19 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (26+ / 0-)

    "In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country badly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.” -Confucius

    by pierre9045 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 10:19:16 PM PDT

  •  Sadly, the deep red districts seem to love their (11+ / 0-)

    loons, Michele Bachman, Louie Ghomert, etc. The more blindly ignorant and angry, the better, the further from reality they blather, the better, the louder they 'dog whistle', the better, the more they gridlock, the better. The era of "Homo Ignoramus Americanus" will not end soon.

    May you live in interesting times--Chinese curse

    by oldcrow on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 10:36:06 PM PDT

  •  I don't see any way they can't continue to get (6+ / 0-)

    more and more dysfunctional as long as they retain the House.
    They will only get worse.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 10:47:51 PM PDT

  •  I keep waiting to hear those 4 magical words... (9+ / 0-)

    House Republican Minority Leader.

    Until that time, things will remain stalled in the House.

    A person's word used to be their contract, now people use contracts to get out of keeping their word.

    by bitpyr8 on Thu Jun 19, 2014 at 11:18:38 PM PDT

  •  At the very least (10+ / 0-)

    allowing any R to run unchallenged for the House or Senate should be a big no no.

    "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light, with the possible exception of bad news. Which follows its own special rules." ~ Douglas Adams

    by coyote66 on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 01:45:19 AM PDT

  •  I wonder how the new teabagger Whip will handle... (3+ / 0-)
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    I wonder how the new teabagger Whip will handle the factionalism. Lots of 'em want a government shutdown. Why don't they just go on strike?

  •  Tipped & rec'ed (1+ / 0-)
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    pierre9045

    I voted Tuesday, May 6, 2014 because it is my right, my responsibility and because my parents moved from Alabama to Ohio to vote. Unfortunately, the republicons want to turn Ohio into Alabama.

    by a2nite on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 05:01:17 AM PDT

  •  yes because if Dems lose teh Senate (3+ / 0-)
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    Bruce Brown, Jackson L Haveck, lgmcp

    they'll both spend the next 2 years impeaching and getting nothing else done.

    Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility. uid 52583 lol

    by terrypinder on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 05:03:54 AM PDT

  •  I suppose it depends on (3+ / 0-)
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    sawgrass727, Chas 981, dobleremolque

    How we define "ineffective." They've provided very effective service to the interests that matter most to them, that keep their campaign funds brimming, that provide so much "independent" campaign support.

    They've done an excellent job at spinning their special-interest service as "creating jobs" and "boosting the economy."

    They've done an excellent job of covering for each other.

    Fred Upton has been particularly effective at not letting any bills leave his Energy and Commerce Committee that would require his colleagues to cast a vote against clean energy.

    Down with Upton!

    Please sign the petition.

    Fred Upton, Chairman, House Energy Committee: Stop pushing dirty energy, stop blocking clean-energy initiatives. Help lead the transition or retire.

    by Bruce Brown on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 05:24:51 AM PDT

  •  The Democratic establishment needs to try (3+ / 0-)
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    No duh!
    The TeaBaggers' "success" can be turned against them.
    Brat is a worthless, insane piece of work and his challenger, while not a firebrand, is a decent man and would be a good Rep.
    http://www.dailykos.com/...
     Putting him over the top would once again prove the TeaBaggers' gains to be illusory. Yes, you can disrupt, you can put radicals up, displacing long-time "RINOs", but that ends up with LESS Republicans in office, not more.
    McCarthy is unopposed at this time, from either side. He needs a target on the front as well as the back. Let the TeaBaggers snipe him from behind, but lets also see a Dem take him on from the front. If the Right can shove him rightward, the left should be able to shove him leftward...
    Oh wait.....Bakersfield....nevermind.

    If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

    by CwV on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 05:38:35 AM PDT

  •  The current House is eminently representative (5+ / 0-)
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    Bruce Brown, pvasileff, lgmcp, hbk, Orinoco

    of corporate interests.  In that sense, a more ineffective House is devoutly to be wished.  :-)

    "The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.”" -- Paul Dirac

    by Rikon Snow on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 07:36:41 AM PDT

  •  We have one major political party that is anti (5+ / 0-)
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    US Government!

    What we have to realize is that the Tea Party, the GOP, the Republican right wing is basically against governance.  They do not believe in functioning government.

    The Democratic Party needs to recognize that reality and with that in mind, you cannot compromise when the other entity does not believe in compromise.  You cannot work toward representative democracy when the people on the other side of the table is trying to make government not work.

    If Money is Speech, Speech isn't Free! I wonder what it is about that that Antonin Scalia cannot understand?

    by NM Ray on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 07:42:27 AM PDT

    •  Not so! (4+ / 0-)
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      se portland, wishingwell, scott5js, NM Ray

      It only looks like they are against functioning government because they are anti democratic (small d) government. They'd be perfectly happy with a theocratic or fascist government.

      You might notice they are fine with the parts of government that support corporations with subsidies, tax breaks or favorable regulation, or legislate their particular religious beliefs about sex, women, poor folks, drugs, etc, into law.

      "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

      by Orinoco on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 06:04:30 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

  •  NEVER underestimate GOP on ineffectiveness (1+ / 0-)
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  •  Could we see a more ineffective HoR? (5+ / 0-)

    If Democrats don't get off their asses and vote, yes.

    If we get off our asses, drive neighbors/friends/family to vote, and elect more liberal (whether they have a D or an I after their name, doesn't matter) folks, then we could get more accomplished.  As long as we keep electing people like Ted Cruz and Mike Lee (yes, they're Senators.  I use them as examples of the morons we don't need), we'll get NOTHING done.  (sorry, but shutting down government is not an accomplishment, unless you're looking to screw govt employees, and departments, and waste money)

  •  If they WERE effective, we'd REALLY be in trouble. (2+ / 0-)
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    matador, se portland

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 10:37:02 AM PDT

  •  A tragedy in the making (4+ / 0-)

    There are some predicting a Republican win of the House and the Senate. I can't imagine how devastating that would be. But to make matters worse, if they do achieve those victories and then manage to get the White House, the grand trifecta, the country is pretty much fucked for fifty years. Because the grandest tragedy of them all would be if the next president, a Republican, gets to appoint even more activist jackass strict constructionalist Supreme Court Judges. The present Roberts Court has pretty much fucked things up as it is. Another round of those jackasses and all will be lost, all of the hard fought PROGRESS of the last eighty years.

    That is my ongoing nightmare. Despite the fact that the blue ranks are growing, I still fear it just may become reality. Undoing the damage they could commit in just a short time could be very lengthy.

    We MUST stop them.

  •  So many electoral diaries (2+ / 0-)
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    pierre9045, wishingwell

    predicted on the assumption that we can win 'moderate' Republican votes, or 'Independant' votes.

    I think any 'moderate' Republican who was willing to vote for a Democrat has long since switched parties. and 'independants' are simply dyed-in-the-wool Republicans who are too embarrassed by the brand to admit it, but their new lable won't change their behavior at the ballot box. If they show up, they are going to vote for a Republican.

    The way to put a stake into the heart of the Tea Party, and the Republicans they rode in on, is to get on the bus, head for one of those 'bright red' districts, and start registering new voters. Empowered people do not vote against their own interests. That pathology is reserved for the angry, the frustrated and the powerless.

    "The problems of incompetent, corrupt, corporatist government are incompetence, corruption and corporatism, not government." Jerome a Paris

    by Orinoco on Fri Jun 20, 2014 at 05:49:44 PM PDT

  •  If it gets worse they might as well be on recess (1+ / 0-)
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    se portland

    365 days a year.....

  •  Everytime I read "Kevin McCarthy," I think (0+ / 0-)

    "Joe McCarthy." That surname and Congress just don't compute for me.

  •  The Hastert Rule (0+ / 0-)

    Under the doctrine, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives will not allow a floor vote on a bill unless a majority of the majority party supports the bill.

    So, you are right pierre9045. The House leadership are now faced with moving even further to the right, not bringing any bills to the floor, or lose their power. It might sound odd, but more would get done if the Republicans had a larger majority. If the Republican leadership had enough Republican votes (just one more than Democrats) without the Teahadists, they could bring bills to the floor. But they don't, so the Tea Party, even though they are a small minority, holds the whole country hostage.

    “We can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other possibilities.” - Winston Chuchill

    by se portland on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 08:57:06 AM PDT

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