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  •  I'm tired... (11+ / 0-)

    ...we moved furniture out of my father-in-law's room today.

    He died yesterday morning. Calamity Jean was by his side all night from Thursday evening.

    He was 97.

    Float like a manhole cover, sting like a sash weight! Clean Coal Is A Clinker!

    by JeffW on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 03:20:23 PM PDT

  •  Medical Tourism (5+ / 0-)

    Because of the crappy medical system in the USA, I anticipate that we will be seeing a medical tourism industry developing very quickly.

    Cost of a typical hip replacement in the USA is somewhere upwards of $42,000.  In the UK, the same surgery, without insurance is $12,000.

     In Spain, the same surgery is less than $10,000.

    I am no expert but the info is available,

    If Money is Speech, Speech isn't Free! I wonder what it is about that that Antonin Scalia cannot understand?

    by NM Ray on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 03:25:54 PM PDT

    •  I'm not sure why its so expensive (3+ / 0-)
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      I thought the ACA limited profits to 20%.

      I know that my wife's chemo and radiation billing to Medicare and Medicaid came to about 15 years of our present income and my VA treatments run close to the same although they provide it free.

      Meanwhile in India instead of $1200 an infusion its about $179. Somebody's definition of profit needs an update  plus we are agreeing to terms in the Asian trade agreements that won't allow the cheaper priced pharmaceuticals to be imported to the US.

      Now I'll allow we treat making profits as sacred in this country, but since I'm reasonably competent and would do pretty much anything for a million dollars, even work for a living, a salary of $350 million a years seems rather more than what its necessary to pay a CEO for doing nothing, or worse running a good company into the ground stripping the assets and sending the jobs overseas.

      "la vida no vale nada un lugar solita" "The Limits of Control Jim Jarmusch

      by rktect on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 03:56:16 PM PDT

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      •  rktect (2+ / 0-)
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        Here is a good diary to check out


        There is a new variation on the old theme. It is called health "metrics". Insurers claim that they can tell how "good" a doctor is. You know, the way that HMO's used to tell how "good" a doctor was by how little money he spent.
        And one 1st hand example

        I only go to the Dr unless I am really sick , ended up at the free clinic for a viral infection , 25 people filled the waiting area , nice place and people , in and out pretty fast for being that busy , in Iowa here

        They send me to one of the main hospitals for a blood test , 3 story windows and ceilings when you walk in the place , art , beautiful architecture , fountains , chandeliers , and not a person to be scene in the place , it was like a giant quiet empty grave yard

        I walk down the hall way to the lab and 2 nice ladies are chatting in a big empty lab , they take my blood sample , our HC system is ass backwards

        Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers

        by Patango on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 07:31:11 PM PDT

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        •  Let me tell you how it is with my experience (2+ / 0-)
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          There is universal and comprehensive coverage, not at all the same thing. Primary care is pretty much universal Under the ACA, depending upon your plan its more or less comprehensive, depending on how healthy you think you are and how willing you are to trade coverage for a break in price, and whether someone has explained to you how income subsidies work to make the plans affordable.

          By comprehensive I mean things that go beyond ambulatory.

          You can go to a hospital and get diagnostics, phlebotomy (blood work and labs) cat scans, x-rays, ultrasounds, if not available under your community health center come from a referral to a hospital and that's still primary care.

          Oncology, Cardiology, Intensive care, generally that's the comprehensive part where expensive gets measured in do they take an arm, a leg or your ass.

          In my wife's case they took her ass. The 20% Medicare doesn't pay for that gets picked up by Medicaid would cost  a new, fully loaded, non domestic sports car.

          Us healthcare is expensive because it pays for some incredible infrastructure, remodeled every 3-5 years at a cost of up to $300 a square foot, sometimes more for labs, or special treatment cardiac catheterization, bone marrow transplant with laminar flow HEPA filters, various operating theaters, even obstetrics where decor is considered a part of treating post partum depression.

          Even more expensive than the Doctors are the Hospital administrators; essentially you have a collection of doctors, lawyers, CEO's , architects, contractors and project managers making big bucks and nurses and interns doing the work for the privilege of putting it on their resume.

          "la vida no vale nada un lugar solita" "The Limits of Control Jim Jarmusch

          by rktect on Sun Jun 22, 2014 at 09:21:35 AM PDT

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          •  one of the expenses is due to fraud (1+ / 0-)
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            waste and abuse in the ambulance industry, which whistle-blowers have already informed the federal and state governments about. Some of the varieties involved are: submitting false reports, "upcoding" to bill for a higher level of services than already provided, bullying workers into submitting the same, or be fired, which happens a lot more than you would think, even in a down economy, union busting, wage and hour theft, transporting on substandard or even dangerously accident- prone equipment, mandatory overtime in violation of DOT regulations, and so on. The reason this is important this week is that there will be hearings on Medicare fraud this week, Wednesday, June 25, at 10 AM. It is held by the House Committee on  Energy and Commerce, which, under Chair Fred Upton, too often has used the post merely to oppose Obama Administration reforms on health care. The hearing is held by the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations. It's important to the Kos Community, IMO, in that good input, on top of what the subcommittee already has, actually offers at least the chance to push for reforms that will actually enhance the Obama Administration's policies on health care--reducing costs and improving quality--two key goals of the Affordable Health Care Act. Let's try to keep the GOP from wasting a real chance of improving the system. The size and frequency of the abuses is staggering, and the public has a right to know about them. Something to follow up on Wednesday, and the days following. Lots of election-year fodder in just this one issue.

    •  If travel to Cuba were opened (1+ / 0-)
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      I'd see a huge surge of USA-ians going there for medical procedures.

      To the embarrassment of many anti-Castro anti-Communists, I'm sure

    •  NM Ray (0+ / 0-)

      Yucatanman on here is familiar with such procedures in Mex and South America , he said people can get major dental repairs , (with a beach side casino package maybe ? ) for A LOT less than a 3 day vacation package in Vegas , I do not remember the details , but the cost difference was staggering , like you are saying , it sounded like the cash in your wallet could cover the resort and all  

      Beer Drinkers & Hell Raisers

      by Patango on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 07:10:14 PM PDT

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  •  A first for me today. (4+ / 0-)
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    For the first time (other than atmospheric mood stuff), I composed a song specifically for a political ad.

    Might debut it Monday. Got to check whether I've got the vid stock to make what I want.

    Hope all are having a splendid enough day.

    I live under the bridge to the 21st Century.

    by Crashing Vor on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 03:50:30 PM PDT

  •  Yeah, a "frack-zilla invasion!" (3+ / 0-)
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    By Peter Rugh Jun 19 2014


    Business has been good for Millennium and other fossil fuel transporters, thanks to fracking—a process of retrieving gas or oil by fissuring shale rock beneath the Earth's surface. Studies show that fracking can potentially poison the water, soil, and air, contaminate the food supply, and even cause earthquakes—basically everything short of awakening a giant, prehistoric lizard. With these negative effects in mind, fracking is under a moratorium in New York State. Yet even though New York has so far prohibited fracking, Leanne and Robert Baum are still suffering its consequences—and it is threatening to stomp out their country way of life. Just 15 miles across the border from Minisink, where New York's fracking restrictions are not in place, the state of Pennsylvania's been cashing in on a frack-zilla invasion.


    I would rather spend my life searching for truth than live a single day within the comfort of a lie. ~ John Victor Ramses

    by KayCeSF on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 04:10:17 PM PDT

  •  Please sign the Thank YOU card COSMOS host (0+ / 0-)

    Neil DeGrasse Tyson here:

    and help donate copies of this excellent pro-science series to classrooms in need! This was shared with me on social media today, and I'm coming here with it as a plea to help boost the signal.

    Besides, Neil DeGrasse Tyson is the most engaging science host on TV, and these folks are trying to help combat climate-change denialism.

    Subject: Neil rocks!

    Cosmos host and science rock star Neil deGrasse Tyson is busting climate denial and giving the public the facts they need on climate change. Sign his thank you card — for every 1,000 signatures, we'll send a copy of Cosmos to a classroom in need!    

    LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

    by BlackSheep1 on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 07:54:27 PM PDT

  •  German item on anti-Obama antigay church in Harlem (0+ / 0-)

    The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ♥ ♥ ♥ Forget Neo — The One is Minori Urakawa

    by lotlizard on Sat Jun 21, 2014 at 09:53:30 PM PDT

  •  Cameron will force a vote about Juncker (0+ / 0-)

    British prime minister David Cameron will force a vote

    Cameron will force a vote

    British prime minister David Cameron will not accept the new EU commission chief Jean-Claude Junckers in the dispute about the candidacy and force a vote. If there is no willingness to search at the EU summit 4 an alternative candidate, “then it should come to a vote”, a government employee said on sunday in London.
    The EU heads of state and heads of government meet on thursday in Brussels for a summit where the man 2 b is on the agenda. The council has 2 agree with qualified majority voting on a candidate, who has 2 be confirmed by the European Parliament.
    Cameron tried for weeks to stop Juncker . According to his account, the former Luxembourg prime minister is not the right man 2 execute the profound reform of the EU demanded by London.
    It would the first time that the president of the EU commission is nominated by a formal vote in the European Council. The principle of unanimity was voting mode till the treaty of Nice, which came into effect early 2003. But even then a majority decision on the candidates was avoided .
    *qualified means only that there is a threshold wheresoever. It is simply defined. In the end though, qualified means eventually mostly that a simple majority of 50% plus is sufficient. That is voting mode since 2003. Cameron’s chances are lousy to stop Juncker as of such.

    On saturday, nine social democratic leaders threw their force behind Juncker during a meeting in Paris, although this the conservative European people‘s Party (EPP) candidate and he was their top candidate for the European elections. The chance of the conservative Cameron to forge a blocking minority against the Luxembourgian thus decreased.
    The prime minister thinks it is “important that all heads of State and Government clearly sets out their position”, was indicated on sunday from British Government circles. Therefore, a vote is required. As of such the govts deal a “backroom deal”, thus transferring their power to parliament what is unacceptable, thinks the British Empire.
    *what Cameron is trying to say here is obviously that the govts. of Europe tried to circumvent till now a voting about Juncker. Thus a shabby backroom deal was already created obviously. Meaning that only the parliament decides about Juncker. Thus the British empire is feeling cheated and treated and mocked, and is thus enforcing freedom-liberty voting about Juncker on thursday involving the EU heads of state. Parliaments dont seem 2 have democratic legitimacy for Cameron.

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