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Originally posted to Comics on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 02:50 PM PDT.

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  •  Sadly they really would worry about the word (5+ / 0-)

    "boom" and not the "unlimited". The boom is real and the unlimited is imaginary. We've managed to come up with all sorts of ways to push back "peak oil" I shudder to think how much further we'll go? Coal gas liquid? Mining the sea floor for methyl hydrates? Burning corpses?

    GOP 2014 strategy -- Hire clowns, elephants, and a ringmaster and say "a media circus" has emerged and blame Democrats for lack of progress. Have pundits agree that "both sides are to blame" and hope the public will stay home on election day.

    by ontheleftcoast on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 02:54:21 PM PDT

  •  Picture speaks a thousand words (3+ / 0-)
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    ontheleftcoast, JeffW, ditsylilg

    Well done.

    There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

    by Puddytat on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 03:01:32 PM PDT

  •  Brightling Energy (notice, it's "energy," not oil. (2+ / 0-)
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    xaxnar, ditsylilg

    Luntz has been here, obviously) has been running commercials on the radio (CBS affilitate in L.A. 1070 A.M.)
    pushing fracking and insulting environmentalists. Just sent them a nasty tweet. They're at @brightlingenergy and Brightling Energy.com.

    "The soil under the grass is dreaming of a young forest, and under the pavement the soil is dreaming of grass."--Wendell Berry

    by Wildthumb on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 03:13:04 PM PDT

  •  Perhaps, "ka-blam". n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    JeffW
  •  I confess, I'm worried about a rail backlash (2+ / 0-)
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    JeffW, leftneckgirl

    Get enough people worked up about tank trains of oil, and pretty soon they'll start objecting to all freight trains - and we can't afford to give up what is one of the most energy efficient forms of transportation we have. (There's a joke that the proof of rail's efficiency is that it has survived railroad management for so many years.)

    One reason to worry is for many people, they've never traveled by train; they have little personal connection to trains and no great love for them. (Although Thomas the Tank Engine may counteract that somewhat.) They may demand tracks be relocated or shut down - but there's only so many places they can run.

    If there's a problem with rail safety, it's partly due to years of neglect, lack of regulatory resources, corporate malfeasance, and not having the highest priority among safety issues. We can do better, and we're going to have to; the infrastructure of  a lot of rail, especially in the Eastern U.S. is pretty old. And a lot of it was built in days when safety was treated differently. We wouldn't build them that way today.

    That being said, we already have plenty to object to in the alternatives: pipelines. They leak, they have quality control issues, and we have a lot that are aging and not being replaced or kept up. The rail disaster in Megantic was horrible - but have people forgotten this already? Or this? Or these?

    There is this about moving oil by rail. It's out in the open where it can be seen and inspected; you can take tank cars out of service a lot more easily than you can a pipeline, and if there is an accident the oil is already containerized so it doesn't all have to spill.

    If we're going to ship oil around at all (and we will be for a while yet), it helps if we are making our risk assessments on the basis of solid numbers and facts, not the most horrific recent disaster. I can understand why people have strong objections to the continued shipment of oil by rail as part of the larger push to get away from fossil fuels; I just don't want to see us casually trashing rail transport in the process or failing to address issues we can and should do something about.

    "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

    by xaxnar on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 03:59:26 PM PDT

  •  Don't these guys know you don't eat where you (1+ / 0-)
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    RepublicansDemise

    sh*t?  If they are trying to bring about the demise of humanity by destroying the planet, don't we have the obligation to take them out first?

    "We know too much to go back and pretend" - Helen Reddy (humble cosmos shaker)

    by ditsylilg on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 04:24:41 PM PDT

    •  Actually, it's "don't shit where you eat." (1+ / 0-)
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      penelope pnortney

      But otherwise, you've got the gist.  Yeah, no, they don't get it and don't realize that humanity includes them along with the rest of us.  If humanity goes out in a mass extinction, they'll go right along with the rest of us.  All their $$$ will not protect them.

  •  So love this!!!! (0+ / 0-)

    So sharing this!!!

    We have it within our power to make the world over again ~ Thomas Paine

    by occupystephanie on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:30:46 PM PDT

  •  Lac Megantic survivors get a bang from cartoon... (1+ / 0-)
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    The devastation caused by last year’s oil train explosion in Lac-Megantic, Que., has been captured for posterity by Google, and some residents are outraged.

    "The scene only looked like this for the two weeks following the accident," provincial MNA Ghislain Bolduc told QMI Agency, but the satellite image on Google Maps showing the scarred area remains to this day. He said using the image smacked of "sensationalism."

    "It's disgusting and it makes no sense," Emilie Bedard of the local tourism bureau told the news agency.

    The Lax-Megantic [sic] disaster took place almost a year ago -- July 6, 2013. Forty-seven people died when an oil train from Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Railway rolled into the city centre and derailed, causing a massive fireball.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/...

    With picture. BTW, the crude oil was from Bakken Formation in North Dakota, USA. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/...

  •  Addiction can only end one of two ways. (0+ / 0-)

    Either the addict quits his habit for good or he dies. And it's more often the latter than the former. The human race became addicted to fossil fuel about a century and a half ago, and enough people are still in deep denial about it that the likelihood of breaking the habit is small. So long, Earth, it was nice to know you, however, briefly, signed, Homo "Sapiens."

  •  Simpleminded greed (0+ / 0-)

    Of course, I have always believed those rail explosions were accidental and unavoidable. No sane person would do anything to cause them, and we all know that those looking for the $$ would not do something like that. I mean why would we need a pipeline to transport the filthiest oil in the world if we were practicing safe transport? If we are transporting oil in the safest manner we surely don't need any regulations to force us to do otherwise.
    Simple when you think of it; simpleminded greed.

    No country can be both ignorant and free - Thomas Jefferson

    by fjb on Fri Jun 27, 2014 at 07:11:46 PM PDT

  •  If I had to guess, I'd guess that.... (2+ / 0-)
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    enufenuf, penelope pnortney

    people are more addicted to "comfort" or "availability" than oil, itself.  If we could easily transform this society and system to energy that was comfortable and available, I'm sure there would be little to no problem with most people.

    Only those whose income and power are based on controlling what choices people make, would be digging in and trying to prevent that from happening, which is where we are now.

    There is also the social problem of "independence."  Many people have learned to believe they are "independent," and to value that delusion, and our gas and oil culture allows them to continue seeing themselves as independent people.  Most people don't understand, or don't want to understand, how dependent they really are.

    It is our culture of denial that makes change so difficult.  People want things to stay the same AND get better, which will not happen.  If things stay the same, things are going to get immeasurably worse, and probably sooner than most people want to think is possible.

    I just got an e-mail from someone I know talking about a water shortage in Detroit.  Things will begin to change when people finally understand that the bull is going to be in everyone's china shop.

    •  The further removed (0+ / 0-)

      people are from the costs and inconveniences of business as usual, the less likely they are to pay much attention.  It only becomes urgent for most people when they're feeling the pain themselves, which is a sad state of affairs all its own.

      Mediocrities, entrusted with power over their fellow- creatures, invariably develop into tyrants. All history proves it. - Frederick Baron Corvo

      by penelope pnortney on Sat Jun 28, 2014 at 08:05:28 AM PDT

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  •  Yeah. (0+ / 0-)

    Yes, it's the perfect word, along with negligent homicide.

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