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Guns...  There needs to be something done about this.  The fact that an upset election in Virginia makes news anchors more speechless than a school shooting disgusts me.  The fact is that the fear placed into peoples hearts by the National Rifle Association is invalid 99% of the time.  I don't know what else to say...  Something needs to be done, I have suggested things in mock legislation all of which have been shot down (oh the irony), but the thought processes of people needs to change.  People need to be educated about gun violence and be exposed to the horrors, not simple told they need a gun to defend themselves.  Newsflash, that's what the police are for.  Get your heads in the right place and think about what is best for the country and not the best for your corporation and personal gains.

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  •  Only if they live in your house. (3+ / 0-)
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    VClib, Samulayo, Neo Control
    Newsflash, that's what the police are for.
  •  There does indeed, but what has to be done will (4+ / 0-)
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    VClib, thanatokephaloides, Samulayo, salmo

    never be done so long as we insist on change without anything changing.

    All of the proposals that flood out of the image factories after each of these tragedies are DOA, and even if passed, wouldn't change anything.

    And BTW, the police have no duty to protect you, this has been established law for decades.

    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire

    by Greyhound on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 07:34:23 PM PDT

  •  Newsflash, that's what the police are for. (3+ / 0-)

    I am not placing my trust in at least 60% of the police in this country. They are too hell bent on using guns, tasers, tanks, etc.

    I will not carry a gun but I'll certainly hope I never have an encounter with cops.

    “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

    by weezilgirl on Wed Jun 25, 2014 at 07:58:21 PM PDT

    •  And many that live in rural America have a long (1+ / 0-)
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      salmo

      wait time for the law enforcement officer (usually a country Sheriff or a State Trooper across the other part of the county) to respond.  Not that I am justifying ownership for protection, but response time isn't the same in every case across America.  

      I do agree with your concern about the current state of trust regarding many of our overly armed para military police departments as many are not intellectually to be trusted with such responsibilities of "protecting others", and in legal possession of serious weaponry.  I have personally witnessed that when a one puts on a "blue uniform", they somehow "change".  

      Been there, have seen that, and yes, I too am concerned when approached by a law enforcement officer for whatever the reason (motor vehicle issues).  It never used to be that way, but I began seeing things change when in the late 60's and 70's, those of us that protested the Vietnam war and fought for civil rights for all were getting "treated" a bit more harsh, and that seem to set the tone for rules of engagement for the public from then on.

      “My soul is from elsewhere, I'm sure of that, and I intend to end up there." - Rumi

      by LamontCranston on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 06:34:26 AM PDT

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      •  45 minutes +/- if you're lucky (1+ / 0-)
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        ban nock

        I have twice been told,"You're on your own" in the face of  a seriously violent problem at a business I used to own.  The average response time was about 45 minutes.  For a while last winter we had a series of armed home invasions, with serious injuries to the victims, it turns out caused the local young adults.  Slow response times made solving the crime much harder, and meant even those who managed to call were on their own as a practical matter.  I can go on about foxes in the hen house and coyotes after the sheep, but I believe that people generally understand that we rural Americans are not necessarily using those phrases metaphorically all the time.  Call our animal control officer about a rabid raccoon, and she will say "What do you want me to do, (you) shoot it".  She was very unhappy about the double bagged one I did shoot when I brought it to her for transfer to the State lab, as directed by my vet.    In short, I and most of my neighbors use guns as tools regularly.  That having been said, I agree, the needs of our more urban areas are being trampled, in large measure by gun extremists.  Let's not go to the other extreme.  Our society needs better balance, not a resolve to trample rural needs.

        •  Thanks, salmo. (1+ / 0-)
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          I've been lucky in that I've not been bothered by raccoons, opossums or skunks. Lots of coyotes but the dogs alert to them.

          I do understand that I'm on my own here for the most part. It is a "rural fact of life".

          “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

          by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 11:27:42 AM PDT

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          •  Okay I live in rural America and they were light (0+ / 0-)

            flashing within minutes. More than once.

            There's way too much dismissed out of hand by opinion. Not you, this parroted stream here, they can't help, they can't help ...

            One thing you can do is let them know that you're alone etc., if you've had a problem let them know. I had to get down off my high horse (not you) and get help, it worked.

            Of course if you don't work with them they can't work with you.

            •  I talked to a deputy (1+ / 0-)
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              recently about the neighbor who was charged  with an animal abuse felony. I asked him to check to see if the man had any more horses, hogs  or dogs. He went to the ranch and didn't find horses and only a few dogs.

              When he came back by he  asked me if I was here alone and volunteered to make drive-bys more often. That still means he has to come over the mountain from the county seat. I knew the last sheriff and I need to get acquainted with this one.

              I have a neighbor who is 4 miles from me and he has come when I called him.  One afternoon I saw a strange truck in the pasture and L rushed down. The man got away but at least he saw my neighbor when he left the woods into the clear area. L is related to the state trooper and I'll ask him where Joe lives. We have "cattle guards" for ease of getting in and out. This deer season I will lock the gates.

              “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

              by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 07:00:13 PM PDT

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      •  Thanks, LamontCranston. (0+ / 0-)

        I am in the southern end of the county and all we have is a state trooper that has to cover a huge area. The sheriff's deputy has to drive over a treacherous mountain road to get to me. I have a shotgun here and I kill water moccasins with it so I do keep a little practice going on. I would use it if I felt threatened at the house.  In the meantime I rely on the dogs for knowing someone has driven in on the property. They alert the second someone drives over a cattleguard. I know that someone could walk in and they would smell them.

        I've posted about having the very scary incident with a Taos, NM police officer. That was in the mid-eighties and I'm still not over it. I know that the problems in NM started before that. Look at Albuquerque.

        “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

        by weezilgirl on Thu Jun 26, 2014 at 11:25:40 AM PDT

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  •  Four diaries since joining, theloneliberal, (3+ / 0-)

    and just as many comments (four tip jars only)?

    Some might take your participation here more seriously if you did more than dropping your brief opinion pieces and then dodging back into the shadows.

    •  my apologies for not being on more often, but... (2+ / 0-)
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      I just graduated high school and have been extremely busy making plans for my future education and finishing things up.  I will contribute more in the future, but as of right now this is serving as a vent session, and I understand that is not fair for everyone.  Being human, I get fed up with things every so often, and this has been the only source of... let's call it venting.  Again, I'm sorry, but I plan on contributing more in the future.

  •  Interpretation... (0+ / 0-)

    What I meant really was I am tired of hearing the NRA spout about needing a weapon and having basically an arsenal at your disposal.  I mean truly, you can only shoot one long rifle at a time...  but that's besides the point.  I would like to see, in the future, gun legislation that has more restrictions on who can purchase a firearm and more training on to how to use that firearm.  There are many cases that can be discussed, especially foreign.  England and Australia, for example, have basically given up their firearms, and as a result, the gun related violence, especially mass shootings has gone down.  Another example that I don't know as much about, Switzerland, issues every adult male at the age of 18 with a handgun and trains them how to use it, but I don't know any statistics on their crime rate.  Things could go either way, who knows, but I would just like to see a decrease in the amount of mass shootings in this country, especially those who claim the lives on innocent children.

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