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I am searching for acts of Civil Disobedience that can be used to show Hobby Lobby, and similar believing closely held corporations, the folly of their (dis)beliefs.

I am offering my first thought:

--  Sending Hobby Lobby all of my used condoms wrapped in a pretty box tied with a bow.

Any woman who votes for any republican is supporting the same group of (mostly) men who believe that "Rape is Gods will," and who support the idea that your medical needs are inferior to those of men.

Women - whether you realize or not, you have been defiled by todays Hobby Lobby decision by the Supreme Court.

If you vote republican, you support misogyny.

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  •  Better send fresh ones. (6+ / 0-)

    Used ones would probably count as a biohazard.

    Re-Elect Al Gore! Gore/Warren 2016! Eight More Years!

    by aseth on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 05:41:12 PM PDT

    •  Or... (10+ / 0-)

      Combine protests! Hand out condom-balloon animals from the sidewalk in front of Hobby Lobby while open carrying!

      Re-Elect Al Gore! Gore/Warren 2016! Eight More Years!

      by aseth on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 05:42:48 PM PDT

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    •  OK, I'll use mayonnaise. (2+ / 0-)
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      G2geek, Volt3930
      •  that's a biohazard too, after it's been... (0+ / 0-)

        ... sitting at room temperature or above, such as in a nice warm Post Office truck.

        Hmm, what to use to make the point...?

        Paint.  Zero biological hazard.

        We got the future back. Uh-oh.

        by G2geek on Tue Jul 01, 2014 at 04:01:06 AM PDT

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      •  i gots a'nother tactik for ya. (2+ / 0-)
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        Volt3930, ygdrasl

        Be an Improper Shopper.

        Go into HL, like any of their zombie customers, and fill up a whole shopping cart full of goodies from all over the store.

        Then ... ringie-ringie!  Cellphone call!

        "Allo?  ...The dog ate what?  ...Good Lord!...  Yes, I'll be right home!"  (Say it loud enough that it will be heard by others around you, heh heh.  Or make up your own.  "There's a hornet's nest where?!" etc.)

        Leave that shopping cart in the aisle, and run to the parking lot to drive home.

        Someone will have to re-stock all those items on the shelves.

        They'll get paid their hourly to do it.  Some other work won't get done or will be delayed as a result.  All of this costs HL real money.

        And costing them real money is how to bring them down.  A few hours here, a few hours there, in every store, and after a while it adds up.

        If enough people do this in enough HL stores, eventually it makes a dent in their profits.

        Goal:  BLEED THEM DRY.  The death of a thousand small cuts.  It doesn't take much of an increase in costs to make a retail store become unprofitable.  

        If you want to rub their noses in it, have a bunch of people do this at the same time in every store.  "Synchronized Shopping!"  Yeee.  Hawww.

        We got the future back. Uh-oh.

        by G2geek on Tue Jul 01, 2014 at 04:11:45 AM PDT

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  •  In front of Hobby Lobbies (12+ / 0-)

    Yes, I think that every woman that goes into HL should have to go through a gauntlet just like those assholes do at abortion clinics.  THEY are the people that set up at abortion clinics.

    Inform anyone going in what a bunch of misogynists HL owners are.  Try to convince them that shopping at HL is unethical.  Make sure the protesters are within 35 feet of the front door at all times.

    You matter to them IF YOU VOTE!

    by nuketeacher on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 05:47:38 PM PDT

    •  thanks to the supreme court (6+ / 0-)

      Buffer zones are illegal so technically you could do this.

    •  I totally agree. (3+ / 0-)

      What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

    •  If you dislike what they do (0+ / 0-)

      why would you do the same same ?

      "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

      by indycam on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 06:55:47 PM PDT

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      •  To try and bring about desired change? (4+ / 0-)

        If they are allowed to stand in front of and "counsel" women going into an abortion clinic, why cant we stand if front of and "counsel" people going into a Hobby Lobby? If authorities say people can't do that, shouldn't they informed of the new SCOTUS decision on free speech rights?

         Turnabout is fair play I feel, and it may be the most effective way to come to some real legal conclusions on why an abortion clinic should be able to clear entry zones.

        But I can't back my words up personally though, the nearest Hobby Lobby is 62 miles away.

        •  You agree with this ? (1+ / 0-)
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          SoCalSal
          I think that every woman that goes into HL should have to go through a gauntlet just like those assholes do at abortion clinics.
          You would be "just like" one of the assholes ?
          Its not turn about if the woman you are being an asshole to was never one of the assholes at a abortion clinic .

          "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

          by indycam on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 07:26:57 PM PDT

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          •  If both sides do it…. (1+ / 0-)
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            rtaylor352

            If both sides of a debate offer horrendous acts, then maybe, just maybe, Congress will act and change the law.

            Why must Westboro & Anti-Choice bigots effectively be given rights that nobody else will exercise?

            I would love to be a 'closely held corporation' and deny medical rights to epileptics and present my case to the Supreme Court.  I could show that for thousands of years it was a deeply held religious belief that epileptics were occupied by demons and not only deserved no medical treatment, but should be put to death like a criminal guilty of capital offenses.

            Todays Hobby Lobby ruling was based upon a similarly flawed understanding of how oral contraceptives work.

            Of course, Justice Roberts would rule against my case because he is an epileptic.

            A very similar 'religious' claim could be made to prevent African-Americasn equal rights.

            Todays Supreme Court ruling was utterly insane.  

            •  If you are willing to be as bad as they are (0+ / 0-)

              then you are no better than they are .

              horrendous acts
              You will get down into the gutter to make things better ? You will do more harm than good .

              "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

              by indycam on Tue Jul 01, 2014 at 07:19:34 AM PDT

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        •  If you do this find several tragic stories about (3+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          SoCalSal, peptabysmal, cjtjc

          women who died from complications during pregnancy or delivery. Be sure the families of the women are OK with this. Find women who have health conditions that could kill them if they get pregnant.

          Avoid the screaming and malice. Sadness and concern for our sisters will be much more convincing. Ask why these women should be forced to risk their lives with unplanned pregnancies.

          Point out politely the Hobby Lobby investments in companies that make birth control. Point out that the merchandise from China comes from a country that forces women to have unwanted abortions. There is no need to shout about this because many Hobby Lobby customers will be bothered by this information if they are sympathetic to the Supreme Court ruling.

      •  you're confusing tactics and objectives (0+ / 0-)

        This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

        by certainot on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 08:22:06 PM PDT

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        •  Please explain . (0+ / 0-)

          "please love deeply...openly and genuinely." A. M. H.

          by indycam on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 08:44:31 PM PDT

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          •  protesting and picketing comes in many forms (0+ / 0-)

            i have wandered into a hobby lobby for a birthday party or a project in the past and seeing protestors there would have alerted me, no matter whether they we handing out cookies or something more pointed.

            anti choice protests come in many forms, as would protests at hobby lobbies, and i suspect hobby lobby protests would be more oriented toward the cookie tactic than shoving pictures in peoples faces and calling them killers, while supporting killing doctors.

            hobby lobby has an entire nation of rw radio blowhards on their side and hobby lobby needs protests/picketing and boycotts of all legal forms and types.

            This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

            by certainot on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:51:43 PM PDT

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    •  On Saturdays: stand outside with... (0+ / 0-)

      .... posters on which you have attached Playboy Magazine centerfold nudes (see also your local used book store, they may have back-issues cheap).

      Ideally, big photos of tastefully-done sexual intercourse and full frontal nudity including guys.

      Messaging: "God Made Your Body and It Is Holy, therefore you should enjoy God's creation!"

      Eventually the store manager will call the police.  Be nice to the police and leave peacefully when asked.  By that time you will have already been there for an hour or two and caused numerous potential customers (with kids in tow) to see your spectacle as they approached the stores, and decide to go elsewhere for entertainment that day.

      Alternately:  Olfactory warfare!   Spill a can of cheap beer, or a quantity of "bong water," near the entrance.  The smell of alcohol or cannabis will deter some quantity of people from going near the place.  This is best done on a day when it's hot outside and there is no wind.

      Also: If you're brave:  Make up a poster that looks indistinguishable from anything else in their window display but has large-format nudes on it, and a caption along the lines of "Celebrating God's Creation: see our Adult Toys section!"  Find a way to put this up in their window.  For this it's helpful to create a distraction in the store, such as a friend with kids who are willing to play-act getting all whiny when Mom tells them they can't have the expensive whatever-it-is that they've "always wanted."

      Get creative.  Use your noodle.  Anything nonviolent is OK.

      We got the future back. Uh-oh.

      by G2geek on Tue Jul 01, 2014 at 04:28:15 AM PDT

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  •  GOTV instead. Anyone still shopping at (12+ / 0-)

    a HL at this point is a true believer and you won't get them to change their mind.   Talk quietly with facts and figures to people who don't normally vote and explain how this happened and how they have the power to change it.....with their vote.  THIS is the difference between extremist conservatives and even moderate liberals....libs would never sanction something like this ruling, nor the home healthcare worker ruling.  And national dems are finally making some noise about Citizens United.

    Every single person I have talked with, no matter their political persuasion, disagrees with Citizen United.....every single one.  We can make a difference.

    "Do the best you can until you know better. Then when you know better, do better.: Maya Angelou

    by PsychoSavannah on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 05:55:28 PM PDT

  •  Why? (10+ / 0-)

    It seems as if the GOP is waging a serious war against women, yet some women still vote for them. It makes no sense to me. A woman voting republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

  •  I would suggest letters sent to store managers (3+ / 0-)
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    suesue, weezilgirl, FindingMyVoice

    giving statistics for maternal deaths as a result of complications of pregnancy. Ask the managers if they think women should be allowed to decide if they want to get pregnant even if they have health conditions that make pregnancies life threatening.

    Ask the managers if they think women deserved to die from risky pregnancies. Maybe some of you can find out the names of store managers so the letters can be addressed to them by name.

    These letters should NOT contain threats of any kind.

    •  Here you go! (2+ / 0-)
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      allie4fairness, FindingMyVoice

      As close I could get...Too many to copy and paste. I looked for the store I worked at in the early 2000s (frame shop) but there are hundreds. Lawton, Oklahoma.

      https://connect.data.com/... as I could get...

      “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

      by weezilgirl on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 06:32:48 PM PDT

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      •  I used to live in Lawton, Oklahoma. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        allie4fairness

        We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers - thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams. - Peter S. Beagle

        by jk2003 on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 07:31:41 PM PDT

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        •  Were "you" in the Army? (2+ / 0-)
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          jk2003, allie4fairness

          I have met so many people who were stationed at Ft. Sill at some point in their lives. And I've met them in all sorts of places. Small world.

          “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

          by weezilgirl on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 07:38:56 PM PDT

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          •  Well, it's a long story (1+ / 0-)
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            allie4fairness

            I was never in the army, but my grandfather, father and brother were.  My dad grew up there and my moms dad got out of the army when she was in high school and stayed to let her finish school then never left.  So Lawton was where my grandparents lived but we were also stationed at ft sill several times during my dad's long military career.  I went to central junior high for one year, my brother to Lawton high until his junior year.  Then I came back to ok and went to OU for undergrad.  I still have relatives and friends there and visited a year ago.

            We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers - thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams. - Peter S. Beagle

            by jk2003 on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 07:54:16 PM PDT

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            •  Wow! It is a very small world. (1+ / 0-)
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              My daughters went to Lawton high and everyone went to OU except C. She went to UNM. I lived there from 1973 to 1990. We lived 1/4 mile south of the west firing range. A howitzer landed in our pasture one day. Thank Goddess, it missed my cows. :) I haven't been there since 2006.

              “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

              by weezilgirl on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 08:43:29 PM PDT

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              •  Well we were there at the same time (1+ / 0-)
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                weezilgirl

                My longest stint in the Lawton/ft sill area was from 83 to 88.  My brother probably went to Lawton high with your girls.  And you probably lived very very close to my grandparents.  So funny.  Good to meet you weezilgirl.  

                We are raised to honor all the wrong explorers and discoverers - thieves planting flags, murderers carrying crosses. Let us at last praise the colonizers of dreams. - Peter S. Beagle

                by jk2003 on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:00:42 PM PDT

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      •  Brilliant! Polite letters asking these people if (2+ / 0-)
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        they realize the dangers of pregnancy will probably not change their minds. A copy of the letter sent to the local paper or posted on the internet might have more effect. Any responses from these people would be interesting.

        According to the world bank the maternal mortality rate per 100,000 live births from 2009 to 2013 for the following countries was:
        Afghanistan     400
        Albania        21
        Brazil        69
        Denmark    5
        France         12
        Canada        11
        Mexico        49
        Ukraine    23
        United Kingdom 8
        United States    28
        http://data.worldbank.org/...

        Internationally a major cause of maternal mortality is the complication of a pre-existing medical condition. Women ought to be able to decide if they want to risk thier life with a possible pregnancy when they already have medical problems. Many healthy women develop medical problems during pregnancy and some of them die. Women should not be forced into pregnancies they do not wish to start.
        http://www.theguardian.com/...

        In the US mothers may die from excessive bleeding during delivery.
        http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/...

        Every year about 650 women die in the US as a result of complications of pregnancy.
        http://www.cdc.gov/...

        There are also quite a few complications of pregnancy that do not result in the death of the mother.
        http://www.cdc.gov/...

        •  I bled excessively during the delivery (2+ / 0-)
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          jessbell911, allie4fairness

          of my first child. I can't imagine not being in a first-class hospital with a very good doctor. Scary.

          Thank  you for the info. The nearest HL is 115 miles from me in Ft. Smith, Arkansas. Thank goodness there is a Michaels there.

          I'll write a letter to the newspaper in Ft. Smith and see if they print it. (and the manager of the store)

          I just thought of something..I wonder how my totally Republican family feels about this. I'd ask but I don't want to start a knock-down, drag-out fight.

          “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

          by weezilgirl on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 07:44:55 PM PDT

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          •  My RW relatives tend to be rather libertarian. (1+ / 0-)
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            weezilgirl

            They probably think companies should be like the government -- off our backs and out of our bedrooms. I also avoid these issues when talking to them though. The chance of changing any of their minds is about zero.

            Fortunately some of my relative are reasonable, reality based types. We avoid the RW Republicans or talk about the weather and fishing.

            I am past the age where the birth control affects me personally, but the vicious attitude toward poor women is getting to me. It is the whole pattern that is scary.

            I am very glad you were in a good hospital when you had the problems during delivery. The world is clearly much better off because you survived. I have to wonder what contributions all those women in Afghanistan could have made with decent educations and hospitals.

            •  I have no rational people in my family. (2+ / 0-)
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              allie4fairness, SoCalSal

              If I do, I haven't met them yet. My sister closest to me says I'm lying about being on the board of PP. ;) I tried to explain the policies of the organization and she went ballistic.  I guess she is the most extreme.

              Years and years ago I read a book about the women of Afghanistan. I can't remember the name of it. It gave me a much deeper understanding of what we women have here. I felt so sorry for the woman who wrote it. She wrote about her sister dying in childbirth and how it affected her and the family.  

              “Listen--are you breathing just a little, and calling it a life?” ― Mary Oliver

              by weezilgirl on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 08:52:03 PM PDT

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              •  Trying to talk to the RWNJs in my family can be (1+ / 0-)
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                weezilgirl

                about as effective as banging my head repeatedly into a brick wall would be. They are not about to be confused by facts. Throw in a good dose of sexism while you are at it.

                I used to swap recipes with the female RWNJs. We got along reasonably well because I bit my tongue whenever they said something patronizing. Cooking, gardening and sewing were acceptable topics. Fortunately I enjoy all three. They just ignored all my education past high school, and it was easier to let it slide. There is something especially annoying about being demeaned by my own family though.

                Rolling my eyes with the sane members of my family has always been a big relief. One of my uncles used to do wonderful imitations of the RWNJs when they were not around. (He would have loved writing snarky stuff on the internet.) He was not really mean, but he had their BS down pat. The sane branch of the family used to laugh until we cried.

                It has got to be really frustrating not to have any relatives acknowledge your annoyance when someone is being especially obnoxious. Sometime chosen family is a lot nicer than the ones we got stuck with at birth.

    •  somehow I doubt that will be effective. (0+ / 0-)

      The managers are probably chosen from the ranks as full-on reliable dominionist extremists.

      Rather than try to persuade them, just do whatever it takes to cost them lost sales and increased costs.  Make the store unprofitable.  Anything nonviolent is OK as a tactic.  Be creative.  

      We got the future back. Uh-oh.

      by G2geek on Tue Jul 01, 2014 at 04:32:01 AM PDT

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  •  Here's one: (9+ / 0-)

    Hire men to dress up like Catholic priests and hold up those big signs with photos of aborted fetuses in front of Hobby Lobby stores.  Lettering on the signs should read:  "If you shop at Hobby Lobby, you support forced abortion in China!"

    "Soylent Green is people too, my friend!" Guess Who

    by oldmaestro on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 06:34:01 PM PDT

  •  Let's use the other SCOTUS anti-woman ruling (2+ / 0-)
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    rtaylor352, Volt3930

    ...and have large, loud protests outside Hobby Lobby stores, right up next to their front doors, where we can "sidewalk counsel" shoppers not to buy from a company that is fine with women becoming ill and dying from fibroids, ovarian cysts, and ectopic pregnancies.

    After all, the SCOTUS says it's fine to do this in front of family planning clinics. Why not Hobby Lobby?

    "Don't ride in anything with a Capissen 38 engine. They fall right out of the sky." -- Kaywinnit Lee Frye

    by Technowitch on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 06:45:42 PM PDT

  •  Use their tactics (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    SoCalSal

    not their methods.

    By this I mean: Do make sure to be within 35ft of the entrance. But don't block the customer from entering, don't shout at them, don't use ugly posters. If you find that you cannot be polite, then just hold a sign and stand quietly. Or better yet sit a few feet from the door, close enough to be a nuisance; but far enough to not impede entrance/exit.

    More bees with honey, than vinegar...  

    "There is no instance of a nation benefiting from prolonged warfare." ~ Sun Tsu

    by coyote66 on Mon Jun 30, 2014 at 09:00:10 PM PDT

  •  I doubt they'd survive the postal scans (0+ / 0-)

    at HL, much less the USPS General Mail Center. And you shouldn't include a return address, since you'd be sending hazardous bio-med material without identification as such.

    But I suppose your fruitless gesture would make you feel better -- except when an innocent handler is affected, but then again, if you're enough of a psycho do do it, you don't care about that.

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