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If you're in the lucrative right-wing science denial biz, that chart above would have to be going up. Because the Earth is cooling, according to the climate deniers, and that's the NASA average global temperature record for the last century. The trick of course, it's been flipped upside down for this post. Which brings us to another nugget of stupidity spotted by Hunter this week:
“As you sit there in your chair with your data, we sit up here in ours with our data and our constituents and stuff behind us. I don’t want to get into the debate about climate change, but I will simply point out that I think in academia we all agree that the temperature on Mars is exactly as it is here. Nobody will dispute that. Yet there are no coal mines on Mars. There are no factories on Mars that I’m aware of.”
The actual average temperature on the surface of Mars is estimated to be about -67 °F. But what's even funnier; this is what happens when a lying moron gets their wingnut BS all garbled up. The real spiel is supposed to go like this: Mars is warming, and it can't be fossil fuel emissions causing it, therefore, fossil fuels can't be causing the Earth to warm, either.  
  • After a disappointing loss in 2009 and a few more obstacles over the years, this week NASA finally got the Orbiting Carbon Observatory into polar orbit. The new research satellite will closely monitor carbon dioxide levels related to climate change.
  • A shortlist of Astronomy images of the year: well worth a click!
  • Climate change deniers, rejoice! You can earn $30,000 simply by scientifically proving your claim that there is no such thing as man-made global warming. Anyone ... anyone ... Bueller ... Bueller?
  • Fascinating:
    Past research has concluded that a particular gene helps people live in the thin air of the Tibetan plateau. Now scientists report that the Tibetan version of that gene is found in DNA from Denisovans, a poorly understood human relative more closely related to Neanderthals than modern people.

Originally posted to Daily Kos on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 06:00 AM PDT.

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  •  Funny how the right denigrates academia... (9+ / 0-)

    unless it's their "academia". George Orwell must be saying "I warned you all" from the grave about the extremists' manipulation of language and "facts".

    I am proud to be able to say that I got the chance to vote for Ann Richards for Governor of Texas, twice!

    by dewtx on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 06:13:58 AM PDT

  •  Lenar Whitney, LA candidate for Congress (13+ / 0-)

    disproves climate change with a thermometer:
    http://www.msnbc.com/...
    She does not state if she uses an oral or anal thermometer.  She does remind me of a former neighbor who styled himself an amateur scientist who said the fact he had not had to change the thermostat on his fridge proved the climate was not changing.  If the climate were becoming warmer, then he opined his fridge would have to work harder and sooner or later he would have to drop the setting to compensate for the increased external heat (don't ask; I dunno)
    Dropping by PZ Myers, I note that the "science wars" over the differences between the races and the differences between the sexes:  http://freethoughtblogs.com/...
    I am amazed such topics remain topics of conversation today but then this sort of stuff persists:
    http://www.rawstory.com/...
    http://www.rawstory.com/...

    The demand that Africans should thank Euros for "bringing them civilization" continues to gobsmack me when we consider that African civilization predated Euro civilization by  millennia or so and even the Romans had their counterparts in Africa.  (We will not even note Chinese and Indian civilizations as the people who are demanding such homage from Africans also assert that all advances in civilization were the products of white people)

    •  Just remind them that we are all out of Africa, (2+ / 0-)
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      that will confuse them further.  Oh and let them know that Italian cooking is based on Chinese cooking because of Marco Polo.  And lastly, my all time favorite fact, we have algebra because of Persia (modern day Iran).

      Clearly Neanderthals still walk among us.

      "We know too much to go back and pretend" - Helen Reddy (humble cosmos shaker)

      by ditsylilg on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 06:53:25 AM PDT

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      •  How smart can we be if we continually hand (1+ / 0-)
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        over power to these throwbacks?  

        Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

        by judyms9 on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 08:02:44 AM PDT

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      •  Italian = Chinese + Native American (1+ / 0-)
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        ditsylilg

        There was a great exhibit at the Smithsonian in 1992, the Columbus Quincentenary, about the "seeds of change" that travelled both east and west across the Atlantic after 1492. A whole wall was called "when spaghetti met tomatoes." Most of what we think of as Italian cuisine, including polenta and anything with tomatoes in it, depends on Amerindian ingredients.

        So does most of "Irish" cooking, thanks to potatoes.

        On the other hand, things we think of as quintessentially "American" -- such as apple pie -- are not at all native to this hemisphere.

         

    •  when it comes to "civilization", the largest city (4+ / 0-)

      in North America in the 13th century was Cahokia, Illinois, from the Native American mound builder culture. It was larger than contemporary London or Paris.

      And when Europeans reached "the New World" in 1492, they found the cities of Tenochtitlan and Cuzco, capitols of the Aztec and Inca Empires, which were both bigger than any city in Europe.

      In the end, reality always wins.

      by Lenny Flank on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 06:57:23 AM PDT

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    •  Well (0+ / 0-)

      at least she knows what a thermometer is.  You gotta start somewhere.

  •  War on Coal? (12+ / 0-)

    I love the quote by James Lash in 2013 in a PA Senate hearing on the shutdown of two of their coal fired power plants.  He said "Even without the EPA, the plants would be loosing money."

    Thanks to the push to deregulate Pennsylvania's power market, these plants are no longer regulated monopolies that are guaranteed profits.  Amazingly, it turns out that 60+ year old dinosaur plants have a hard time competing.

    Of course, that must be Obama's fault.

    •  Dinosaur plants burning dead dinosaurs (1+ / 0-)
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      Well, actually dead plants . . .

      During the Carboniferous period, 350–280 Mya, these plants proliferated widely, covering the land surfaces with lush forests of giant ferns, trees, and plants of all types. Because the atmosphere was rich in CO2, but very poor in oxygen, dead plant material did not decompose rapidly, so layer upon layer of it was laid down in thick blankets that would transform over time to coal.
      . . . but we should really stop trying to burn this crap.

      More of that here, including the hypothesis that Earth's atmosphere started out a lot like the hothouse Venus has today, but because of plate tectonics and the presence of liquid water (farther from the sun), the rest is herstory.

      And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

      by Pale Jenova on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 09:30:39 AM PDT

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  •  Conservatives, (8+ / 0-)

    a poorly understood human relative more closely related to Neanderthals than modern people.

    I couldn't resist, my apologies to any Denisovans out there.

    Just a guy made of dots and lines.

    by BobX on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 06:21:53 AM PDT

    •  See my comment above - there's evidence! (1+ / 0-)
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      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 08:05:51 AM PDT

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    •  not to make too much a point of this (1+ / 0-)
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      But recent genetic research suggests that most non-africans are a few percent neaderthal.  It could be that these factors lead the offspring to be better suited for cooler climate, given that the genes seem to effect skin and hair and the like.  The people from Africa itself, which research suggests involved several distinct races, with a range of skin and hair variations, did not seem to interbreed with the Neanderthals.

      These kind of misunderstandings are what causes most conservatives augments to be invalid.  For instance, the current thing with Mars relates to carbon dioxide(CO2).  Most uninformed people think that there is a great deal of carbon dioxide in the earth atmosphere.  The reality is that most of our atmosphere is nitrogen, with about 1 in five diatoms being oxygen, and a very tiny bit of carbon dioxide and other gasses.  The mass of oxygen and nitrogen are comparable but the mass of CO2, or the more common thought problem carbon monoxide is much greater.  A significant increase in either can cause death, just recall the movie Apollo 13.  Their oxygen was in full supply, but the CO2 was not being scrubbed.

      So the current problem we have is that a very good job has been down scrubbing pollution of everything except CO2.  As mentioned, CO2 is very heavy, and the fuels we use are mostly carbon(C).  For fixed point fossil fuel generators is may be possible to sequester the CO2.  For things like cars most of it would have to be CO2 storage tanks, and you would have to offload the CO2 every time you filled up.  Which is why electric cars, even if they are less efficient, are a good idea.

      She was a fool, and so am I, and so is anyone who thinks he sees what God is doing. -Kurt Vonnegut Life is serious but we don't have to be - me

      by lowt on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 09:08:39 AM PDT

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  •  this is old news but it was news to me this week. (7+ / 0-)

    I'm still all woozly trying to wrap my head around it, the mice and cherry blossoms.

    Study finds that fear can travel quickly through generations of mice DNA

    If memories get into our DNA, what does that mean?  It's like something out of Dune.

    •  DNA is information. We're just starting (8+ / 0-)

      to figure out how it really works.  I expect there are more surprises coming.  Evolution / adaptation never stops.  It's been going for billions of years as an iterative process . . .

      "The opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.”" -- Paul Dirac

      by Rikon Snow on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 06:30:43 AM PDT

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    •  i find this report deeply disturbing. (2+ / 0-)
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      i know of no proposed signaling mechanism whereby olfactory detection of cherry blossom scent could trigger corresponding epigenetic changes to germ cells.

      similarly, this is the first report i've encountered that suggests that ordinary pavlovian responses have an epigenetic component, nevermind that said epigenetic component can, like the detection of the scent, be somehow induced in the germ cells. how the hell would that even work?

      for that matter, i don't know how they've managed to identify the dna sequences responsible for detecting, very specifically, cherry blossoms. the olfactory system, as i understand it, is generally a little more complicated than that.

      this is very, very weird stuff. it's almost like biological "action at a distance".

      To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

      by UntimelyRippd on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 10:02:41 AM PDT

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      •  you might find this article interesting... (1+ / 0-)
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        cordgrass

        there's work being done at UCLA regarding this very subject.

        http://www.psmag.com/...

      •  The puzzle is how epigenetic memory (1+ / 0-)
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        in germ cells mirrors that in the olfactory system. Once the information is mirrored, incomplete erasure -- perhaps due to signaling associated with stress? -- could account for the transmission to the next generation. But how would germ line cells track gene activation states of other cell lines?

        American Presidents: 43 men, 0 women. Ready for Hillary

        by atana on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 12:24:07 PM PDT

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        •  Exactly. (1+ / 0-)
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          I have serious questions about this work, but I'll have to wait till I'm in the office on Monday, when I'll have access to the online journal content.

          I work with people who do this kind of stuff, and none of them have even mentioned this paper to me.

          My first question was, why haven't similar effects ever been reported before? The basic experiment -- can mice inherit pavlovian conditioning -- is something a precocious junior-high student could have carried out. To my surprise, googling "Pavlov Lamarck" turned up this article contributed by a freelancer after the paper was published. Evidently, Pavlov himself once reported on a series of successful experiments showing just that. However, his report was never followed up with a published paper, and he appears to have recanted. (Or ... did he?)

          To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

          by UntimelyRippd on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 01:41:02 PM PDT

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        •  So, the same freelancer contributed the (1+ / 0-)
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          original report in national geographic, including this important observation:

          There are still some unanswered questions, Ryan notes. For example, the researchers didn’t do a control experiment where the F0 animals are exposed to the fruity odor without the shock. So it’s unclear whether the “memory” they’re transmitting to their offspring is a fear memory, per se, or rather an increased sensitivity to an odor. This is an important distinction, because the brain uses many brain circuits outside of the olfactory bulb to encode fear memories. It’s difficult to imagine how that kind of complicated brain imprint might get passed down to the next generation.

          To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

          by UntimelyRippd on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 01:46:44 PM PDT

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  •  If you go oook at the actual chart (5+ / 0-)
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    note how global mean temp start skyrocketing about the time Reagan is elected and how it almost leveled out during the 60's and 70's.

    Legal means "good".
    [41984 | Feb 4, 2005]

    by xxdr zombiexx on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 06:23:29 AM PDT

  •  Head. Desk. Repeat. (4+ / 0-)
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    Appears your data, constituents and "stuff" are off by a factor of dumbass.

    If there were a Liberal Media, there wouldn't be a republican party.

    by ComradeAnon on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 06:25:11 AM PDT

  •  To me, what this really proves is that stupid a... (1+ / 0-)
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    To me, what this really proves is that stupid apparently has been, and continues to be the single most common trait of most GOP candidates and ALL teabag scum.

  •  average temperatures (4+ / 0-)
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    According to Wiki, the average temp of Mars is estimated to be minus 60-some-odd while the average temperature of Earth is plus 60-some-odd. If you are numerically illiterate, this might be confusing even though there are about 130 degrees F difference between the two planets.

    •  Yeah but he's got data and constituents and stuff (0+ / 0-)

      behind him. Wow. Intimidating.
      Apparently he was TRYING to say all the planets are getting warmer. Anyone who can figure out the genesis of that notion wins a weekend with Beyonce, er Johnny Depp, er, actually you dont win anything at all.

    •  most Americans can't even grasp the concept of (2+ / 0-)
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      "average temperature". If the "average temperature" of Earth is 60 degrees, they'll be baffled why it's cold in the winter. It's what leads to idiocy like "global temperatures can't be warming because it's been getting COLDER here".

      Most ignorant Americans assume that a global increase of average temperature of, say, ten degrees must mean that every point on Earth will get ten degrees warmer.

      They don't grasp the concept of "average temperature".

      We are a nation of mostly uneducated illiterate buffoons.

      In the end, reality always wins.

      by Lenny Flank on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 07:20:08 AM PDT

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  •  denier rebuttal (1+ / 0-)
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    Let's say you take your grandchild to the pediatrician and are told that unless the child eats less sweets, she will definitely develop diabetes before her 20th birthday.  Being a candy manufacturer,  you doubt the truth of this prognosis and take your granddaughter to the Mayo Clinic for a second opinion, and hear the same thing.  Okay, now you try Johns Hopkins, and again are told to give her  much less sweets.  After trips to NYC and Boston hospitals with the same mantra, you try an unrecognized medical school in the Caribbean and are told they're not sure.
    Would you still stuff sweets down her mouth?  Are you hoping to die before the prediction comes true?  Is that your legacy?  Do you think there's an afterlife and you get there because of your bank account?  Do you realize there might be 2 such homes for the departed, heaven and hell?  Which one would clerics expect you to attend, for eternity, when it's realized your granddaughter has a terrible case of diabetes?

    Actions speak louder than petitions.

    by melvynny on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 07:10:49 AM PDT

  •  Not sure why so many think their god needs (1+ / 0-)
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    their protection from science.  But when the USSR launched Sputnik the US had a sudden epiphany, you know, the one where the US was handed its fanny, and we poured all kinds of resources into math and science, including National Science Foundation grants that funded a generation of math and science teachers and raised a lot of smart poor kids out of poverty.

    Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

    by judyms9 on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 08:22:40 AM PDT

    •  First we Had a Lethal Enemy and 2nd We Had a (1+ / 0-)
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      nation state economically. That meant that the owners' interests could fry with those of the people in case of war. And that meant that ownership benefited when the welfare and opportunity of the people were improved.

      Today there's no credible threat against the US, and our economy is as much offshore as on, with much labor and supply offshore, so all told ownership has little to gain from the welfare of the US people but still has everything to lose from their political power to protect themselves from ownership.

      So they've been free to neglect and in many ways go to a much more open war against the occupants.

      The right looks at everything in terms of how it works, the left seems to look at everything in terms of philosophy and ideals. It's not a fair fight.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 08:59:31 AM PDT

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    •  The God of Abraham likes rockets and atoms (0+ / 0-)
  •  Welcome to Tibet (1+ / 0-)
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    Hope you brought your own air.

    At 4000m, the standard barometric pressure is 63 kPa (475 mmHg). This means that there is 63% of the oxygen available at sea level.
    Much like Cuzco, only, well, higher. Wanna climb Everest?
    At 29000ft, the standard barometric pressure is 34 kPa (253 mmHg). This means that there is 33% of the oxygen available at sea level.
    This site is kind of fun to calculate stuff like this.

    And God said, "Let there be light"; and with a Big Bang, there was light. And God said "Ow! Ow My eyes!" and in a flash God separated light from darkness. "Whew! Now that's better. Now where was I. Oh yea . . ."

    by Pale Jenova on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 09:15:55 AM PDT

  •  I saw the claim about the temperature on Mars (0+ / 0-)

    being the same as earth's, and wondered where on earth (or beyond) the story came from. Thanks for explaining the pre-garbling rationale.

  •  Carbon is a secular humanist myth. (2+ / 0-)
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    The Bible never mentions carbon. It mentions charcoal, but any fool can see there is no charcoal up in the sky. NASA is telling lies straight from the Pit of Hell!

    American Presidents: 43 men, 0 women. Ready for Hillary

    by atana on Sat Jul 05, 2014 at 11:19:51 AM PDT

  •  Call it what it is and do humanity a big favor ... (0+ / 0-)

    Call it what it is and do humanity a big favor on a multitude of issues, "COGNITIVE DISTORTION".

    " Mars is warming, and it can't be fossil fuel emissions causing it, therefore, fossil fuels can't be causing the Earth to warm, either. "

    It's a mental problem and science does not do, and will not do psychology, so the species is going to go extinct a little quicker than without science and technology.

    It's not like science was not given a chance to realize that 1/2 of our brain is unconscious and cannot sort out these distortions as it conducts emotional reasoning compulsively.

    http://algoxy.com/law/treasonresist.html

    About the time humanity cannot realize it spends 1/3 of its life in an unconscious state; and it cannot figure out why it is seriously compromising the elements required for survival, air and water; you would think the notion of unconscious control of some kind over the puny conscious mind of 14% would become somewhat obvious.

    But nooooooopo, science is too important and afraid of that concept.

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